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Hidden Valley via San Gabriel, AZ

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Difficulty 2.5 of 5
Route Finding 3 of 5
Distance Lasso-Loop 4.4 miles
Trailhead Elevation 1,340 feet
Elevation Gain 886 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,401 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 2.5 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 11.41
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1  2019-05-20
San Gabriel Loop
3  2019-05-12
San Gabriel Loop
3  2017-10-28
Mormon ridge hidden lasso
1  2014-02-17
Hidden Valley via Pima Canyon
10  2013-08-04 RowdyandMe
9  2009-04-03 Tortoise_Hiker
1  2008-02-24 Hansenaz
9  2008-01-19 joebartels
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Author joebartels
author avatar Guides 213
Routes 824
Photos 10,825
Trips 4,256 map ( 21,429 miles )
Age 49 Male Gender
Location Phoenix, AZ
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Preferred   Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar → 11 AM
Seasons   Late Autumn to Early Spring
Sun  6:13am - 6:32pm
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Valley to Valley, Dust to Dust, Park to Park
by joebartels

Here's the quickest route to Hidden Valley from Ahwatukee.

Heads Up!
I recommend downloading the GPS Route. Otherwise seriously study the map or you will likely get lost. More specifically, it's likely you can get in but getting out may prove nearly impossible. All the rocks leading out of Hidden Valley appear to be black boulders. All the houses are cream colored with a red hue roof. You should also be familiar with Hidden Valley and understand the location of the two slides. Check out Hidden Valley via Pima Canyon & Guadalupe Ridge for more Hidden Valley information.

From San Gabriel & 40th Place go left down through the wash and right back up. Follow the powerlines for 0.1mi then turn right onto a wide worn path. Follow the wide path 0.25mi to Desert Classic post #21. The 4x4 steel post may not say #21 but it does say Desert Classic. Turn left onto the Desert Classic and follow 0.3mi to post #23. #23 is currently marked as of this writing.

Turn right at post #23 leaving the Desert Classic Trail for a jaunt up to the Guadalupe Ridgeline. This section of trail is well cut like the Corona de Loma Trail. On this day the switchbacks were a small creek with countless 800mm waterfalls. Upon reaching the Guadalupe Ridgeline turn left and follow the well worn trail 0.13mi. This is right before the "two bathroom sized boulders" as mentioned in Hidden Valley via Guadalupe Ridge.

It's a mere 0.12mi down to Hidden Valley. The trail down is well worn to shelter rock. Shortly after a flat boulder becomes the trail. Continue right and out across the boulders and the trail reappears on the other side. If you're a climber you can down climb the 10-15 dryfall. Otherwise it's much quicker to take the switchback down. This switchback is faint where it "switches" back. The bottom switch coming back takes you under a TREE!

You can easily identify the popular Hidden Valley route in the distance. This drops you in between the two slides of Hidden Valley, practically right before the eastern slide. It's imperative you note where you turn off into Hidden Valley. I remember it as the intersection with two-moss rock. Enjoy the short Hidden Valley / National loop. Going clockwise will be the eastern slide, the tunnel, cross back on the National Trail, down Fat Man's Pass ( aka Wonder Rift ), through the western ( covered ) slide and enjoy a saguarobow.

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2008-01-07 joebartels
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WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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Mormon Lasso
In anticipation of my pending penalty in the AEG deprivation chamber, I decided to grab a few feet while I can. I stopped a couple of times to set up a proper night exposure to share on the social mediums. Because if not for the likes from people I don't know and will never meet, really, what the hell are we doing any of this for!? :-k :-$
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Mormon ridge hidden lasso
Larry said he wanted to go hiking :o so we arranged for a full rescue team in case he couldn't make it. Talked about a helicopter rescue a couple of times but managed to avoid it. Bombed through in record time. PCT guy needs a new alarm clock. Ran into a lizzard. But no gecko. Or tortoise. :(

I hiked some trails I've never been on. No idea if I linked the right ones.
Hidden Valley via San Gabriel
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Started at the east parking lot (1390' elev), took the Marcos de Niza to the Guadalupe Ridge up to just over 2200' elevation. Then took the Young Man trail down to Ahwatukee (1450' elev), turned around and climbed back to the 2200' level again then down to Hidden Valley and back out again. I was bushed.

I still don't understand why the Hidden Valley via San Gabriel is called that seeing as most of it is on the Young Man trail instead of the San Gabriel ridge trail is more than a mile away.
Hidden Valley via San Gabriel
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Did a modified version of the figure eight loop. We took off down toward some big rocks and rock hopped down to the wash from the ridge before we ever came to the trail into Hidden Valley. We also exited after Fat Man and rock hopped back up to the ridge. Also took in a little knob to the south of the ridge that had a faint trail leading out to it. Great views and near perfect weather. Some high clouds muted the sun just enough.
Hidden Valley via San Gabriel
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Started at 5pm and just back before 8pm. Jessica and I tackled one of my favorite South Mountain hikes. She hasn't hiked much all summer so we took it slow going up. She did well. We were treated to a nice surrounding sunset that South Mountain serves up often. Afterwards we resupplied the arteries with deep fried pickles and a guacamole burger at 5 & Dinner :)
Hidden Valley via San Gabriel
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40th Ridge, Pima Canyon, Javalina, 36th Local, Mormon, National, Hidden Valley, San Gabriel Canyon

The range is so green from the winter rains you'd think you're in Scotland. Somebody needs to tell bagpipe dude at Piestewa to come home :lol:

Permit $$

Map Drive
Paved - Car Okay

To hike
From I-10 and Elliot head west on Elliot to 44th Street. Turn right on 44th St and take the second left on to E San Gabriel Ave. Follow Gabriel to 40 Place. There is a right notch or jag in the street but it goes through. Parking is only allowed on the west side (mountain side) of 40th Place. Parking is 5am to 8pm only!
1 TB Flash Drive... $40
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