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Brown's Cave, AZ

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Difficulty 3.5 of 5
Route Finding 4 of 5
Distance Round Trip 9.6 miles
Trailhead Elevation 2,871 feet
Elevation Gain -1,358 feet
Accumulated Gain 2,115 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 7 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 20.18
Backpack Yes & Connecting
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19  2015-04-25 topohiker
20  2008-12-07 Randal_Schulhaus
20  2008-12-07 nonot
19  2008-12-07 joebartels
8  2005-12-28 tkknc
28  2004-12-09 joebartels
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Preferred   Mar, Nov, Apr, Feb → 8 AM
Seasons   Late Autumn to Early Spring
Sun  7:19am - 5:18pm
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4,700 ft
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8.4 mi
2,460 ft
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0.0 mi away
10.1 mi
4,195 ft
Cane Spring Trail #77
0.2 mi away
2.4 mi
1,288 ft
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3,500 ft
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3.4 mi away
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El Recortado 2857 & 3068
El Recortado 2857 & 3068
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12.3 mi
3,100 ft
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Adventures of Fritzski Jones & Teva Joe
by joebartels

Overview: Full day drive and hike into seldom traveled wilderness. The drive is jerky 4x4. The hike is from Cane Spring Trailhead following Alder Trail #82 up and down to the location of Brown's Cave. Top notch route finding skills are necessary to follow the proper trail. Pants and long sleeves are recommended for the minor bush whacking. Return by the same route or explore other options.


Hike: Hip replacement marvel Fritzski Jones and I left Gilbert at 5:30am and headed out to the Cane Spring Trailhead. The drive in is a hearty 4x4 road that proves to be simply long as opposed to overwhelmingly technical. We arrived at the trailhead and started hiking at 7:50 am. Dr Jones mentioned he wanted to hike a nice good trail. Having hiked the first section I assured him this was a "very good trail".

The hike starts off on the old wide jeep road heading south and soon curves east. On route I watched the GPS carefully as I'd missed the proper turn on my first outting. With quick and accurate GPS it only took about twenty paces to realize we'd passed the turn which veers right at 0.7 miles. Once on the right route it petered out quickly. There is a faint old jeep road but it has almost fadded into history. The trail rises 757 feet to a saddle before descending 1358 feet down to Brown's Cave.

The views start to get good at the saddle.(1.75 miles) The trail shortly skirts a ridge then drops 713 feet down a ridge to Long Canyon. You can follow the actual trail but it isn't casual by any means. Sections of trail do surface off and on. There are cairns on occasion and GPS will keep you on target.

Once down in(2.45 miles) Long Canyon the trail is supposed to parallel Long Canyon on the east side. Which indeed it does... however, it's overgrown and difficult to follow. The creek bed of Long Canyon is a better choice. Keep an eye on the GPS and get out of the creek around 3.0 to 3.1 miles and pick up the faint trail east. The Tonto Forest Service describes this trail (Alder Trail #82) as "MOST Difficult" capital letters and all. Keep in mind it's equally to more route finding than physical. What concerns me most is those that ponder ideas of making the 30 some mile loop of the peaks in a day thinking it's a nice worn trail all the way. It's just a scarry thought of fast pacing it in twenty miles and then have the trail peter out! Those thoughts aside I find the area very intriguing and worth the effort being prepared.

Trying to get Fritzski out of Long Canyon proved slightly tougher than prying a kid off the glass front of a candy store. Long Canyon is mighty inviting! Heading out of Long Canyon it's a slight jaunt through a matrix maze of cacti to get back on Alder Trail #82. Just a hop and skip over to the 3.55 mile mark comes Adams Camp. The camp sits on the east of a small tributary to Long Canyon. It appears there's a spring but I don't know how reliable it would be in the summer. The camp is interesting with large rock corral walls. Barb wire galore and scrap metal is scattered about. Considering the trail in is so faint this place puts the Oh! back in old!

The trail now becomes more visible in sections and cairns are more plentiful. About a half mile past Adams Camp (4.1 miles) brings you to the paint puddles which is undoubtably left over from the painting of the cliffs. Another half mile in (4.6 miles) brings you to Alder Canyon. The creek looks impassable at first glance but proves negotiable with some persistant effort. If you're lucky you might spot a prickly pair cactus growing high up in a big tree. This seems to be the prime crossing spot. The creek itself isn't a concern just the vegetation.

Once across the creek you will pass through a makeshift gate made of welded orange fence post. Which seemed sturdy so leave the touch up welder at home. The trail appears to head straight into the brush. Rusty and I scouted the area out. Basically you have to drop to a push-up stance and drag your toes to get low enough and through the vegetation. We made it to an opening with nice grassy ground cover. Then scrambled up the slopes and skirted the butte for a short distance. Rusty convinced me this was leading nowhere so we delicately dropped back down to the creek.

Hooking back up with Fritzski we headed down stream on the east bank. It didn't take long for Dr Jones to decipher what we believe is the location of Brown's Cave at 4.8 miles (of course I walked right by it). The area appears to have been fenced off long ago as there's downed wire in a crescent pattern around the area. If this is the location the cave/mine likely went down at an angle from ground level. A heavy axle of sorts leaves me thinking some serious mining took place. Which may be from a cart or mining machinery. Of course as I'm leaving Dr Jones finds an intriguing matrix on a ceiling overhang.

The return is simply backtracking to Cane Spring Trailhead. We did venture down Alder Canyon a bit before returning.

Gate Policy: If a gate is closed upon arrival, leave it closed after you go through. If it is open, leave it open. Leaving a closed gate open may put cattle in danger. Closing an open gate may cut them off from water. Please be respectful, leave gates as found.

joebartels
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WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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To Cane Trailhead
From Scottsdale follow Shea Blvd East to its terminus at SR87. Turn Left onto SR87. Follow SR87(this is the Beeline) to the Four Peaks Turnoff which is FR143. FR143 is well marked. Follow FR143 to FR 401. Hang a right onto FR401 and follow past Cottonwood Camp. Continue to where FR401 ascends out of Cottonwood Creek up the side of mountain. Here on it's strictly 4x4. It starts out low key for the first couple miles then turns... fun! It's 6 miles to Cane Spring Trailhead. The 4x4 section alone takes 1 to 1.5 hours.

Keep in mind albeit near the valley this is about 5 hours round trip depending on variables.

From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) 52.0 mi, 1 hour 37 mins
From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 150 mi, 3 hours 7 mins
From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 179 mi, 3 hours 38 mins In current traffic: 3 hours 38 mins I-17 S
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