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Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH, AZ

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Distance Round Trip 3.5 miles
Trailhead Elevation 9,125 feet
Elevation Gain 900 feet
Avg Time Round Trip 2 hours
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15  2019-07-07
Webb Peak Trail #345
12  2017-04-22 The_N
6  2016-10-13
Ash Creek Trail #307
6  2016-10-10 cindyl
18  2016-07-17 AZHiker456
15  2016-06-19
Webb Peak Ash Creek
11  2016-06-19
Webb Peak Ash Creek
19  2016-06-06
Webb Peak Ash Creek Loop
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Author fricknaley
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by fricknaley

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This is a worthy short hike when taking a walk down Ash Creek. The vegetation is great, with grassy glades, meadows, and aspen stands. Plus you can bag a 10,000+ foot summit.

The easiest way to climb Webb Peak is off the Ash Creek trail. Roughly 0.5 miles into the Ash Creek trail there is a signed intersection for Webb Peal Trail (345) which breaks off to your left. Follow this old track and slowly start to climb. There are many downed trees during the first part of the wide trail that you must scramble over. As you work your way around them, the trail will soon break off to your left and narrow somewhat.

There are fantastic aspen stands and pines everywhere. You walk through a couple of grassy glades that are a treat for those of us in southern Arizona. The trail keeps winding slightly left sometimes narrowing and sometimes widening out. After about 1 mile, it passes through a sweet meadow. There are some more downed trees, some have been cut through. Occasionally when the trail peters out, some well placed cairns will help you. Finally you will come to a spot where the trail seems to get very faint. This is a very short distance from the peak. Look to your left and climb over some downed trees to pick up the trail, which follows a timber cut line. This section is very short and you soon come upon the summit. To your left and up is the lookout that you can climb for great vista views. The elevation marker says 10,029.

You can follow the same way back to the Ash Creek Trail (which I did) or you can continue on the Webb Peal trail for about 1 mile to the parking area/campground at the Ash Creek Trailhead.

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2006-07-02 fricknaley
    WARNING! Hiking and outdoor related sports can be dangerous. Be responsible and prepare for the trip. Study the area you are entering and plan accordingly. Dress for the current and unexpected weather changes. Take plenty of water. Never go alone. Make an itinerary with your plan(s), route(s), destination(s) and expected return time. Give your itinerary to trusted family and/or friends.

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    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    Excellent climb from the lower trailhead at 4700' to the top of Webb Peak at just over 10,000'. The first mile is out in open scrub, but the rest of the hike stays right along the beautiful creek and/or in shady forest. Nicely routed and very well-maintained trail. The last 4 miles of the drive to the trailhead are rough and rocky, with 3 creek crossings. Thanks to chumley and FOTG for the inspiration and some good area info.
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    Webb Peak Ash Creek
    second day in the pinalenos
    up at first light, took our time for coffee and breakfast
    decided to move camp to soldier creek
    john had seen randy's [ photoset ] and thought it looked pretty nice
    stopped at columbine in hopes of finding a map, but the visitor center wasn't open yet
    threw up a tent at soldier creek campground, then went back to the ash creek trailhead for a hike
    went up to webb peak first and were able to go up in the unoccupied/abandoned tower
    very hazy sunday
    back down to take the trail over to ash creek
    rather than head right back to the trailhead, we went further along ash creek trail to the falls overlook
    thought about going down to the bottom of the falls, but just made the little bypass loop and returned
    nice to hike along flowing water
    saw lots of sawmill remnants
    ash creek trail goes through a cool slickrock area
    the falls were impressive, and it would fun to get closer
    after the hike, went back to columbine for a few minutes
    lunch at camp, then i wanted to see riggs lake
    wasn't really impressed - too crowded
    walked around the lake just because while john took a snooze
    back at camp, we had heard about a cave just off the grant goudy ridge trail, so we hiked out to a couple of overlooks, then started looking for the cave on the way back
    found a smaller cave, and went in a few feet, until bats started flying at my flashlight
    decided that wasn't it, and kept looking until we found it just to the east of and below the trail
    climbed down about 20-25 feet, until going further looked more committing than we were up for
    very cool air coming from it, and apparently one can go down 80 feet or more
    mileage includes the riggs lake stroll and the cave search
    my gps track is just for the webb peak ash creek hike
    i have a track for the cave location, if anyone is interested
    chatted with some of our neighbors, had dinner and another fire
    breezier and cooler sunday night
    soldier creek is a great place to camp
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    I don't know why it took me over a year to get back to Mount Graham because I really like this area. I did a Grant Creek Goudy Ridge loop today with side trips down Moonshine Creek and up Webb Peak.

    I was passed going up Grant Creek Trail by three trail runners :o A good portion of Moonshine is torn up from a tree trimming project, however, I was able to get to the falls area and found it to be a nice little side trip. I saw a few cars during the road walk from Grant to Goudy, but no other hikers or runners the rest of the day. With Graham being illegal I settled for Webb. It was nice to hit 10,000 feet after starting the day at 5400. I considered "Chestley" Flats on my way down from Webb, but had to keep Cup and mind and just decided to head for the Xterra.

    The upper sections of Goudy Ridge Trail are nice, with the gigantic pines and old forest feel, but I think the trail loses its redeeming qualities the lower you go. It is a relentless downhill and the trail is in disrepair in spots, however, it gets you down the mountain pretty quick, with some pretty good views.

    Another great trip to Graham. I hope to make it back soon; its a great area with several more trails I want to hike. I just wish it was not so far away.
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    Our 4th short hike of the day on Mt. Graham. We started from the Ash Creek Trailhead and just went straight up Webb Peak #345 and back. Our first real climbing of the day, and it felt good. Mostly a gentle climb with a few lightly steep sections. There were a lot of aspens on this trail and most of them were at their peak. The best fall foliage of the day. We saw a couple deer when we hit the big aspen grove.

    A storm seemed to be forming, and it rained on us for a short time when we got to the peak. The threat of a thunderstorm coupled with my fear of heights/falling made me chicken out on climbing the lookout tower. :( Maybe next time. Even without climbing the lookout tower this is still the highest peak I've ever hit. Cool to know I was at 10,000+ ft.

    The storm never hit and we had a nice hike back down to the trailhead. Nice trail, and a fairly easy 10,000+ ft peak bag.
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    A midnight arrival at our campsite along Bible Camp Road meant sleeping in late, which was wonderful! We drove over to Ash Creek trailhead that afternoon and headed up the short section of the Webb Peak loop. Climbed the fire tower, signed the register (needs a new book and bigger jar) and then started down the Blair-Ash ridge section of the trail. Most of the maples and aspens on upper Ash Creek were bare, and aspen leaves littered the trail like spilled golden coins. Very pretty. After the hike we cooked a delicious dinner on the fire, warmed ourselves against the encroaching cold and wind and crawled into the tent. Awoke to brief periods of heavy rain early the next morning. Packing up our camp, we drove out to see Riggs Lake, and then took our time heading back and ultimately off the mountain. Encountered more heavy rain on the drive back to Tucson. A fun and memorable first camping trip together.
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    As I start this, let me say that nothing IMO beats the Arizona Trail. I have tons of awesome memories from it for life. But if you want to do a long-distance trail that is truly RUGGED? More rugged than the AZT? Then get on the GET. So far I've done 11 segments of the GET, and 2 of them already have been more difficult than any segment of the AZT, solely factoring distance and elevation. That's not even considering the route finding and bushwhacking; most if not all of the segments (once the GET leaves the AZT in segment 5) have these challenges, since no one maintains the trails and they are so remote. This segment was by far no exception, with a number of miles of route finding and, in some places, fairly dense vegetation.

    A few other HAZ people working on the GET wanted to go but we couldn't get the dates nailed down, so JJ and I did it. As usual, we hiked in opposite directions. Anticipating this might be a doozy, I was able to find a marathon runner friend in town (Norm) to go out and do this one with me.

    Left the house at 3:30am, swapped Jeeps with JJ at 5:45 in Thatcher, and I was hiking a few minutes before 7am. There are a few places on this segment where the trail is almost gone, but by far the worst of it is in the first 12 miles. Slowed us down more than we anticipated. JJ was a monster machine, we ran into him just 10 miles into our trip. We finally reached Webb Peak at 4pm, and started the 8.5-mile descent.

    Other than underestimating the route finding, Norm and I did make one crucial oversight; he didn't have the GPS track on him and we didn't have walkie talkies or anything to communicate. He and I are opposites in that he is fast on climbing elevation but slow on the downs; I'm fast on the downhills but not on the uphills. Because he didn't have a track, 2-3 times he had to wait for me to catch up to him to let him know which direction to go for a total of about an hour wasted. If he hadn't had to wait for me, I could have caught up to him going down. Then, going down I waited for him, which put us both doing the last part of this segment in the dark, and became very slow. We didn't finish until a few minutes before 8:30pm and didn't get back home until midnight.

    Through this segment we saw a number of piles of bear scat, especially on the western side, and even fresh bear paw prints in the water around Ash Creek. JJ's right, the waterfalls and flows in Ash Creek were pretty awesome. We also saw tons of those balls that when you step on them, they put out green smoke. Do you know what I'm talking about? Everywhere! :)

    Thanks JJ for getting us going again; it's been too long. 11 segments, 32% of mileage completed (69% of Arizona).

    Aspen groves were gorgeous.
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    Last year I hiked this loop stopping at the big "Fort Grant overlook" and set up a fire ring with plans of returning the following week to camp at the spot for a night. One year later on this trip, I made it back and as a very nice bonus, I brought along my Roper Lake SP girls (Addie & Lauren).

    Day 1 - We arrived at Grant Hill in the mid afternoon and chose the counter clockwise route for the quickest time to the site as the light was gonna get low soon on this south side of the mountain. My fire ring was still intact, had been used since last year, but was set up nicely with firewood for a new night. We set up camp, gathered more firewood & settled in to our amazing overlook site under the supermoon. Fire, conversation, laughs and awesome night views of Fort Grant below with light monsoon storms hitting the valleys & mountains in the southern distance. Twas a most wonderful night with friends that ended at 4am. I settled into my sleeping bag with 50deg temps and a gentle wind through the pines excited about the next day!

    Day 2 - Awoke after 4 hours of sleep, had an energy shooter for breakfast, broke camp and then completed the rest of Grant Hill Loop. We then switched the backpacks for day packs and drove up to Columbine for the days hike. Light rain started to fall as we made our way down the Ash Creek trail, but ended by the time we made it down to the boiler/Webb Peak Y. The Ash Creek trail looked amazing, would have loved to continue down to the falls but Webb Peak was the destination for the day, Ash Creek ..... see ya next week!!!
    The highlight of the climb to Webb came half way up when we watched a big black bear race through the forest just before we entered the meadow he was in. We sucked wind the rest of the way up to the peak and rested under the fire lookout tower at just over 10,000ft.
    From Webb we then took the Chesley Flat trail down to the Swift Trail. The Chesley Flat section was my fav for the day, just a beautiful hike through sunflower filled meadows that I could have went back & forth through all day!
    We then walked the Swift Trail back to Columbine completing a wonderful Loop.

    The monsoons have hit the Pinalenos well this year. The big island is green, green, green. Water flowing down every creek and drainage, rainbow of flowers on every trail and yellow sunflowers fill every meadow. Wildlife spotted on our 2 day trip - Black bear, 14 white-tail deer, 4 Aberts squirrel and many vultures & hawks above.

    I'll remember this one for years, can't wait for our "finale" next week!!!

    Yellow mountain sunflowers across every meadow, many other colors along the trails & a good variety of mushrooms in the low light sections.
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    An afternoon shorty to the summit via the short arm of the Webb Peak Trail, after having done Deadman-Highline earlier in the day. Several big deadfall logs were blocking parts of the trail. Sketchy, mountaintop cell phone coverage allowed Chad and I to set up the afternoon's hike. It was cool to see the same pen and register jar I had placed on the summit years ago. :) The register booklet itself is in need of replacing.
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    Webb Peak Big Loop
    Half day trip on top of Graham with the 10,000 ft Webb Peak fire lookout tower being the main attraction for this hike. Started the loop from the Columbine corrals by first taking the Ash Creek trail down -

    ASH CREEK - Still a lot of deadfall along the first .5 miles down to the boiler and Webb Peak spur. All of the aspens have dropped their leaves along this section.

    WEBB PEAK - Took the spur around and up to the peak. There is now a short locked fence around the first segment of the fire lookout ladder, but is easy to climb up over. There was no sign telling you not to do this like Heliograph Peak has, so I climbed up half way before strong wind gusts forced me back down. Not sure if the tower box has been locked up too. I then took the service road down and jumped on the Chesley Flat trail just off the road.

    CHESLEY FLAT - Favorite trail of the day! Half of this trail goes through an old burn, but has a cool look to it and some good expansive views to the north. Found a few nice golden aspens along the way before taking a short side trip down Blair Canyon.

    BLAIR CANYON - The HAZ Yeti showed me this trail last year and I decided to revisit just the first .75 miles of this dark, cold & spooky canyon. The entire trail down was completely covered in aspen litter and I will have to put this one on next years autumn list!

    SWIFT TRAIL - I then completed the loop by walking the Swift Trail (Hwy 366) back to Columbine. I'm often asked "what is the best trail in the Pinalenos?" and I always answer - It's the road that takes you up there, the Swift Trail!!!

    MOONSHINE - Before leaving the mountain, I made a short stop on the drive back down and hiked the out-n-back to the very scenic Moonshine overlook.

    AUTUMN OBSERVATION - Disappointing, but expected. I knew going up this year that the colors were going to be below average. There were some good patches of color, but most looked dull & flat instead of the crisp & vibrant colors of the past. I believe that the intense summer heat we had this year had a lot to do with this. I still have high hopes for some of the lower canyons which are just now starting to "peak"!

    Although the fall colors were disappointing, my main goal on this trip was to visit Webb Peak and I thoroughly enjoyed all of the trails I used to complete this loop!
    With the top of Graham set to close Nov 15 for the winter, this was probably my last trip to the top for 2012 and what an awesome year it was!!!
    Many thanks to the Blam & Yeti for the good times shared up high this year on my favorite hill! :D
    Webb Peak from Ash Creek TH
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    Excellent hike, the falls were beautiful. Plenty of flowers to be found. Despite the name of the TH/Campgrounds we only saw one Columbine. A strange looking bee like bug. One deer on the drive up. I had intended to do one of the loops from HAZ that goes down to the fall's over look and then follows a ridge back up to Webb peak but somehow we missed it and ended up on Horse-by-pass meant to keep horse/mule traffic away from the Slick-rock area. This was however apparently the track Wendi was expecting, so at least one of us succeeded in staying on course. The bypass took us right back the Webb Peak trail junction and by now we were pretty exhausted from hiking at this altitude but we talked ourselves into finishing what we started and off we went to go even higher. Knowing what I know now about altitude sickness we might have been risking more than we knew in doing this but things turned out fine. It was even a struggle to laugh at ourselves as we trudged up the trail. I joked that I literally could not walk any faster and I couldn't walk any slower lest I would be lacking the momentum for the next step. We probably should have taken way more breaks, again knowing what I know now, but there was a secondary element. A storm cloud was moving in, thunder could be heard and we were heading up to a peak on one of the most prominent mountains in the state, hoping that even then we would be able to climb up into a big, metal, abandoned watch tower. We passed the area where my "Lost" trail was supposed to intersect with the Webb Peak trail according to the GPS and I still couldn't find it. Finally we made it to the top. The storm had for the moment cleared out so we took our time and explored the abandoned cabin from the window. It was pretty creature-pooh nasty inside so going in wasn't an option. Then we went up to the base of the tower. One notable thing here is that the view from up here was obstructed by trees. So the fact that the initial ladder to the tower was gated and padlocked shut was going to keep us from the best views was a little disappointing. We had ran into one couple who chuckled something about "even a 9 year old could jump the gate". In my delirium at the time I couldn't make sense of the comment until I stood there glumly staring this gate. There wasn't any signage, I could make this easily taking the gate as the height minimum for getting on the ride. Wendi at first wanted nothing to do with it but once I ascended and admired the panoramic views and the sight of the Observatory on the other peak she quickly over came her fear of heights and wanted to come up.

    Not sure the hike up to Webb Peak is worth the trip without breaking a few rules. But the hike down to the falls overlook was pretty spectacular. We made it just in time to watch one couple rap down it's waters. They had left the TH 15 minutes before we did, so we were excited to watch them descend. I had expected that they would hike all the way out and then shuttle back up. But 12 hours after they started there hike they came back up the trail in the dark and drove out. They were driving a late model Volkswagen Rabbit and with the road conditions as they were I did not expect to watch them drive out in the middle of the night.

    There's definitely some tree-fall to contend going down to the falls, some a little fresher than I would like to see. The lizards own the rocky outcroppings

    Learned a lot about altitude sickness on this one, mainly that both Wendi and I susceptible to it. Certainly we have noticed that we are poor performers at altitude based on our hikes on Kendrick and on Pinal. Apparently this trip however brought several aggravating factors together that will shape the decisions we make on our future hikes.

    Driving up to elevations above 8,000 feet, rain, and physical activity were the main of these factors I now know. Through out the 3 days, 2 nights camping we both suffered from a continuous headache, that we never suspected was because of the altitude. But since our TH and campsite was at 9500' and the hike descended to 8650 and maxing at 10,020 we should have. Not until my usually indomitable appetite was eventually lost on our last morning there did I even suspect something was wrong. It rained hard that last night, the kindling that I set to one side inside the fire pit, intending for it to dry and be ready to get the this mornings breakfast fire going burnt up in the night, so getting the fire going again was exceptionally hard after the rains we had. The act of it left me, already not getting enough oxygen at this altitude and breathing mostly smoke when I did, expending what little useable oxygen there was. I got dizzy and sick to my stomach, and by the time I had fire going I was not even the least bit hungry. Even the idea of breaking camp seemed an impossible feat at this point, but as we realized finally that this was more than just headaches that getting off this mountain was the only relief to our symptoms. Towards that end we marched slowly through the morning chores, with the added addition of having to dry the tent off, which I should say did not leak at all throughout the storm. Finally we were packed and as soon as we dropped altitude our headaches were gone, though weariness remained. I quickly regained my appetite so we stopped for breakfast on the way home and I even let Wendi drive so I could get a little sleep.

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    The trailhead can be accessed from either the Ash Creek Trail (Webb Peak takes off about 0.5 miles into Ash Creek Trail) or from the Ash Creek Trailhead at Columbine Campground.
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