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Initial Plan: 5 days from the south rim to bag Vishnu Temple. Day 1: South Kaibab to Clear Creek. Day 2: Clear Creek to Vishnu Creek via Angels / Wotan Saddle traverse and down Hall / Wotan into Vishnu Creek. Day 3: Summit Vishnu. Return days 4 and 5.

After just the first day I realized this might be a little too ambitious. Pack filled with 5 days of food, all the essentials, a 30m rope and 25 feet of cord to use as a harness and build any needed anchors. I was smoked after the first day and at 4am on day 2 began the trek over to Vishnu Creek. East Clear Creek was absolutely gorgeous and even if that was the only thing I did this whole trip I would have been happy. Found the tapeats break and the next step was to traverse around the base of Wotan's to gain the redwall break and get to the saddle. All of this took much longer than expected, and with my pack as heavy as it was I played any C3 and c4 very safe and hauled up my gear behind. After making it to the saddle at about 1:30 pm, I took a look at the traverse and decided Vishnu just wasn't in the cards. I knew I would have to keep moving non stop until dark and the only beta I had about the decent down Hall/Wotan's redwall was that it was extremely loose and a hiker even broke a leg there on the descent years back and had to be rescued by helicopter from Vishnu Creek. I sloooowwwlllyyy began the trek back to my campsite... Completely defeated. I did remember however that I saw that the sumner pools had water in them on the way over to clear creek. New plan: Brahma

Spent most of the next day just enjoying the beautiful campsite I had at the East Clear Creek / Clear Creek confluence. Stretched out, relaxed and didn't even begin moving until 3. Made camp just before Sumner wash. Got up at about 5 and filtered 4.5 liters of that awesome Sumner insect water (There was a frog in there enjoying it too!) Chugged 1.5 Liters and off I went.

Quickly made it to the redwall crack and knocked out the ledges to the downclimb. I felt like a new man without carrying around all that damn gear and food! Quickly made it to up the redwall, up the Supai, and began the traverse over to the Hermit (Supai?) Shelves. Made quick work of those and this is where I'll add my two cents for beta on the route: DO NOT follow the well cairned route after the shelves. This route has been very nicely cairned and used by all the Zoro Climbers. It will take you wayyy too high. Look at your altimeter and contour at 6400ft. It's a good line basically the whole way with a couple of rock obstacles. This cost me quite a bit of time.

I was at the Zoro Brahma saddle by about 12 o'clock and much to my dismay the sky was turning very dark. I did not want to be ascending the Coco shelves in this weather so I actually contemplated bailing. There were plenty of blue spots in the sky so I decided to wait it out. I got showered on and some pretty gnarly wind gusts came through as well that made me happy I waited it out. At about 1:30 I took off with lots of blue in the sky and the bad stuff headed South. I saw a couple of different options to traverse Brahma but the most obvious was to just hug the base the whole way and go down as needed. Only comments on the Coco shelves: the beginning includes an exposed traverse right across some angled slab. EFF that! I opted to go straight ahead and there's a very nice lieback crack that ascends about 15 feet up to some bushes on a flat narrow ledge. It turns the traverse into a very safe bushwack instead of the route across the slab and made for a fun little mini climbing pitch. From the saddle to the summit took about 2 hours flat. The main obstacle was route finding in all the snow on the NE side of Brahma. A lot of cairns were completely covered in snow and I tried to gain the true ridge way too early and found myself going up some ridiculously exposed sections realizing this couldn't possibly be the route.

Spent about 20 minutes on the summit soaking in the amazing views and just giddy to have finally bagged Brahma. I'd tried it before as a dayhike and turned around at the Hermit shelves. Attempt number two was with my wife as a backpacking trip (I proposed on the plateau just below Zoro :) and we turned around at the saddle knowing we didn't have nearly enough time. So third time is a charm! 8th canyon summit and stoked to have this one checked off the list.

The crux for me was definitely the traverses. I would rather be on solid rock all day then some sketchy class 2 where one slip on loose top soil could be fatal. The snow didn't make it any easier! Photoset coming soon hopefully :)
PS - if anyone ever needs a partner for any canyon summits hit me up!
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So Brahma was the plan for this three day excursion into the Grand Canyon with @carriejane and Brahma it was! We had permits for two days in the area, one for the AJ9 use area and one for the AK9 use area. The original plan entailed camping at the top of the redwall break on the way to Brahma a summit in the morning and then camping at Sumner Wash on the second day. However, the prospect of carrying 8 liters of water up the redwall break on day one, may have lead to a liberal interpretation of Grand Canyon backcountry rules on the first night. Nevertheless, our summit attempt was a resounding success and it was one of my more memorable three day trips into the big ditch. I was very worried about how my surgically repaired right shoulder would handle a Brahma summit attempt less than two weeks after getting the green light for the resumption of full physical activities, but I learned that I can do a lot of things with one arm and Carrie pushing up on my butt. Speaking of learning things, we also learned that a Nalgene can survive a 50 feet fall through the redwall and that tents are best when staked during high winds and that the poles that come with the Fly Creek Platinum are very durable under stress.

Day one was a pretty standard and at times warm hike to Sumner Wash, where after filtering six liters of water we decided that a loose interpretation of the backcountry zones was a better option than lugging our heavy packs up through the redwall. Especially, with some worries about my shoulder as it was. After setting up camp, we did a little day hike further east down Clear Creek Trail and then returned for an amazing night in the shadow of Zoroaster.

Day two was a play it by ear day. The goal was to go as far as my shoulder could take us and to just enjoy the journey along the way. Thinking my shoulder would only take us as far as the redwall break, I told Carrie to pack enough snacks and water for a return around lunchtime. This turned out to only be a seven hour miscalculation, as the shoulder was feeling great. With every obstacle cleared, I began to feel more confident and our determination to reach the summit grew. The rope sections certainly proved difficult, but it can be done with one arm and a little nerves. Similarly, the short climbs and scrambles can be negated by a nice two handed push on one's bottom. The traverses and wind tested Carrie's nerves, but even they proved just minor obstacles in our quest for one of the Canyon's ultimate summit gems. There was a little route finding Snafu to contend with on the final scramble, but there was no way it was going to stop us at that point and we quickly got back on track. The summit finally became a reality by 2 p.m. There are not a lot of names in this register and someone had replaced the book about ten days ago, but I was pleased to see that my now barely discernible entry and ode to my old man was still there on some loose papers in the register. We knew we had a long day still ahead of us, so we turned around after only a few minutes on the summit. The way back was pretty uneventful aside from the wind, which had me looking back several times to see if Carrie was still attached to the earth. The tougher of the ropes proved to be a little difficult going down, but it did lead to one of my classic quotes of the day. When I told Carrie I needed her help at the bottom, she asked, "What do you want me to do?" I yelled down, "Just catch me if I fall!" She looked up a little dumbfounded at what I thought was a pretty reasonable request. Going back was a slog, we were both basically out of fuel to eat and water to drink, but we got back to camp sans headlamps (both of us had left ours in the tent) about ten minutes before dark, just how we had drawn it up.

We endured some of the worst and most sustained high winds I have ever encountered while backpacking Sunday night, but were still able to get a pretty early start Monday morning despite the nearly sleepless night. We later learned that those were most likely 40 plus mph winds that we were dealing with for about 12 straight hours. The hike out started off quick and then became a bit of a slog around the tip off point when some quarter inch sized hail began to pelt us, luckily this turned into some softer snow very quickly, but the high winds and white out conditions required us to draw on a little grit for the final three miles of the climb out. We were rewarded for our tough little climb out with the road closed and gated off right before the trailhead due to the snow and ice on the road. However, just as we were contemplating how we were ever going to get home with a gated off road now in front of us, a tow truck driver came and unlocked the gate for us and some other pretty anxious travelers. I was not even aware the forest service gated off that rim road during poor road condition events!

In the end, the second time proved to be a charm and I could not think of a better person to share that amazing summit with! It was team work the whole way, nothing came easy and it was always interesting!

The return route I posted to the track is just a leg of the official route for anyone examining route. I turned off Route Scout on our return from the summit to conserve my battery, so just used the official route for an estimation of stats.

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This was quite an ambitious plan.
Day 1: South Kaibab to East fork of Pipe Creek - stay at Bright angel campground
Day 2: Utah Flats to Phantom Canyon(brrrrr)
Day 3: Summit Brahma Temple - originally planned to stay up at Sumner Camp on the redwall, but weather was coming so we were able to secure extra days at bright Angel and decided to dayhike it a day earlier than planned. This was a 16 hour day. We brought a 100 ft rope and harnesses for efficiency on the way down. I did 2 raps. a few in my group did 1 -2 more.
Day 4: Rest for some. I hiked about 3 -4 miles up North Kaibab. One of my cohorts dayhiked all the way to the North Rim and back.
Day 5: We had planned to stay at Indian Gardens, and hike battleship on day 6, but the weather was bad and didn't look to get better so we just hiked out.
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I would imagine that doing this in February isn't always going to work out, but given how dry the last month was, we had an opening. The group was Eric, Richard, and myself, and we did this as a 2 day/1 night trip. It was on the warm side throughout, but I'm not at all going to complain about heat given the volume of May and June triplogs for this one. There was no snow on the crux pitches, and we only encountered snow on the summit plateau of Brahma. And we used it to fill up our water supplies - a welcome gift!

We started down the Kaibab on Friday at midday, and there was very minimal snow and ice for the first couple hundred feet. Nothing after that. Down to Phantom, and up the Clear Creek trail in the comfortably warm sun. We got to Sumner wash, then hiked up the base of the Redwall break, finding a place to bed down for the night. The Hilton, it was not, but there was enough room for the three of us to throw down tarps and sleeping bags on flat spots. A quiet night, aside from the kangaroo rat jumping on my face at one point.

Up at first light, we quickly made our way to the Redwall climb. I'm saddened to report that Mr. T no longer points the way. The cairn shown in the photos that others have posted is still there, but I thought about what he would have wanted us to do and went right. The Redwall moves passed pretty easily, as did the Supai obstacles above. That long gentle arm coming off Zoroaster is truly an amazing place. The traverse beneath the Supai is a virtual highway, and soon it was time for the three crux pitches, or as I started calling them, the "Three Peppers." First one is an Anaheim, especially with the fixed rope. Not bad. Then a bell pepper on the friction climb right beneath the Jalapeno (the crux). That one packs some spice! Eric practically walked up, but Richard and I had to think about it for a couple minutes each. We didn't use the fixed black rope/orange webbing on the way up, but certainly did on the way down.

The traverses weren't in bad shape and the ground was soft, probably because of the recent snowmelt. The one before Brahma's final climb started to drag, and we were all ready to see that final Coconino climb. Pretty loose blocks in here (some of them large!), but the climbing isn't too hard. Summit was great, and we topped out about 4 hours after leaving camp. Return trip passed smoothly, and we were back at camp 7.5 hours after leaving. Nice. Warm hike out to Phantom, where we refilled water and talked with a guy who had climbed Zoroaster before. I was feeling great and moving well up until this point, but the wheels definitely came off the wagon heading up the Kaibab. But the wagon made it back up. Great climb, really happy to have gotten this one done!
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I headed up to the Canyon for a little bit of a gut check. I wanted to finish what Karl and I had started Thanksgiving of last year, which had really only amounted to a quick recon of the route through the red wall on the way to Brahma. I was able to get a pretty good idea of the rest of the route through Joe and Dave1.

I drove up Friday evening. There was a self-pay machine on the way into the park, but I was not sure if they were suggesting to pay or actually insisting, so I continued through the entrance and pretended that I did not know how the machine worked. I camped at the first dispersed site along the forest road that takes you to Grandview tower and the rim S. rim section of the AZT.

Keeping with the apparent rules of Brahma, which I gathered from reading other HAZ members triplogs, I got very little sleep the night before. However, I was able to double Dave's suggestion of two hours of sleep and got a restless four hours.

Even at 5:30 in the morning, foot traffic was a little heavy along the upper stretches of S.K. Nevertheless, the relentless downhill went by very quickly, as it always does. In fact, the first half of my morning went by very quickly and I made relatively good time. I was staring at Mr. T, getting ready to start my ascent through the red wall less than five hours after starting the trail.

I had already did the red wall section with Karl back in November, so there were no surprises and it went quickly and smooth. The ascent up through the shelves of Hermit shale went equally as smooth, in fact, for myself the red wall and Hermit shale stretches really make the hike, a little climbing but nothing overwhelming and kind of fun. Upon reaching the top of the shale, I got to enjoy one of my favorite stretches and the first of two long stretches of scree slopes that one must traverse to reach the Zoro-Brahma saddle and the starting off point for the final climb through the Coconino to reach the summit of Brahma. Actually, there were probably zero parts of this portion of the hike that I liked and the traverse is physically and mentally taxing to say the least.

I learned several things on this day. Firstly, I have no problem with climbing, scrambling and a little exposure. Secondly, I hate navigating scree slopes! Scree with unforgiving exposures is nearly my kryptonite. I find it to be scary to navigate, slow going and too tedious and annoying for my level of patience and demeanor.

If one examines my route, its easy to recognize I took a different approach up Brahma than the established route. A part of this was be design, however, most of this was a product of getting off track and choosing to improvise instead of returning to the established route. There are several failed attempts on my route where I stubbornly tried to climb up from a more southeasterly corner. Another lesson learned yesterday, improvising and being stubborn rarely pays off in the Canyon, as it will always wins those battles. Nevertheless, I reached the summit and enjoyed perhaps the best 15 minutes or so of outdoor experiences I have had to date.

The views were amazing and some ominous clouds mixed in with a couple heart-stopping claps of thunder made for a unique summit experience. I realize there are tougher spots to reach in the national park, however, I felt an immense sense of accomplishment and satisfaction standing on top of Brahma with the summit to myself. Similarly, there was an emotional aspect to the experience as well. I could not help but notice that JJ had left a happy Father's day message behind in the register and this held some certain relevance with me.

I had told a few close friends that I was doing the hike/climb as a small tribute to the man who made me who I am today. He would have turned 56 on the 30th of April had he still been alive today and I can't think of a better way to celebrate life than to spend a day cheating death.

The trip down was not the easy part. I ran out of water while making the traverse over to the Zoro-Brahma saddle and was really only able to squeeze about a three oz sip out of the bottom of my bladder after that. Similarly, because I was hiking a little fast and somewhat dwelling on my water situation, I walked three-tenths of a mile past my static lines to drop back down through the top layers of Hermit shale. Again my stubbornness led me to try and fix the navigation error on the fly, but there are no alternate routes and after yelling at myself inside my head I turned around and retraced my steps back to the first difficult roped down climb. I don't want to make excuses, but I think I was also making a few poor choices, because I was a little warm, kind of exhausted and I knew I had at least three hours to look forward to of no water (ended up being closer to five hours. Consequently, I may have been acting with a little haste and not thinking clearly. Nothing gets one's heart pumping like being alone on top of the Hermit shale out of water and unable to locate the lines needed to down climb.

The rest of the climb down and the trip back to the Clear Creek Trail went very slow, my actions were very deliberate because of fatigue and my rapidly declining stores of energy. The worst part of no water was not being able to eat, as my mouth was too parched to eat, or probably speak at that point. With only three miles to go, I broke down and drank some water out of the bedrock in Sumner Wash. I did not have my filter so I used my long sleeve undershirt as a pre-filter, filled a Gatorade bottle and alternated taking very small sips and rinsing out my mouth as I made my way back to Phantom.

There is no dodging S.K. so I just sucked it up and embraced the seemingly endless and very slow going climb into the night's sky. I passed a trail runner near the top and he asked, "Did you do a rim to rim to rim today?" I said "no," but thought to myself after doing Brahma what an insulting question, rim to rim to rim please, that's for the tourist.
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Saturday night 10pm, we meet at I-17 and Happy Valley Road and leave Phoenix.

Mission is to Summit Brahma Temple and return within 24 hours.

1:12am we arrive at the Park and start hiking from the axillary lot near South Kaibab trailhead. Weather is nice as we descend via headlamps and moonlight. We pass by Bright Angel Campground at 3:33am and several people are getting up and ready to exit.

We pass Phantom and see more people getting ready to depart. Up Clear Creek Trail we go and within a half hour no more headlamps required. It's before 5am and we are well on our way. Then up Sumner wash and the crack in the Redwall. It is a beautiful morning and we are all in good spirits.

We head along the familiar path from our trip just over a month ago. It was on Mothers Day that we were last here and encountered snow and freezing temps. Today is Fathers Day and it is warm and toasty. The climbs along the way to the base of Zoroaster go well. Then the final class 4 climb comes. The moment of truth. This is the one we struggled with for 3 hours last time and couldn't get up. Was it us or was it the weather that put the kibosh on our success getting up last time? Dave goes first and in 1.6 seconds is up the wall and standing on top. Wait did that really happen? Yep! Then Joe contemplates the climb for a bit and cautiously checks things out. He allows me to go and I make it up without trouble. Then with some assistance of a second rope Joe gets to the top of the wall that stopped us in our tracks last time.

From here to the summit is relatively easy. As we pass the Zoroaster/Brahma Saddle we pass a 5 gallon water cache. Someone dropped it here on January 2, 2014 via helicopter. (Haley I thought I said to have the chopper pilot put it on Isis) We continue on and skirt the south/western side of Brahma. Then we find our route up and start our ascent. It's a nice climb with amazing views. After due diligence we reach the summit. Yes sweet summit success! Wow the weather is perfect and the 360 degree views are outstanding. We hunt for a register excited to sign in and see who has been here before us. Wait where is the register? Could it be there isn't one? Sure enough no register so we put up a makeshift one with a Gatorade bottle and a Juan Jaime's pen.

After considerable time spent enjoying the summit it was time to reverse our tracks. Down we went. At the sketchy wall I down climbed and Dave and Joe chose to rappel. Once in Sumner Wash the sun was starting to bake. We hoofed it quickly to Phantom Ranch where we enjoyed some lemonades and a quick splash in Bright Angle Creek. South Kaibab Trail was our way out and well before dark we were back where we started. On the way home we grabbed a quick bite in Flagstaff.

Just before 10pm I dropped the boys off at their cars on Happy Valley Road and I-17. We had done it. We left Phoenix just under 24 hours ago, we made it to the Canyon, summited Brahma and returned unscathed. Boom!
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A year ago I didn't even know where Brahma was located. It was mentioned with Deva ( pronounced 4 different ways depending on Dave's sleep status ). Isis this, Isis that, nothing else registered. Dave like Bob, Steve and others either enjoys or is good at deciphering minimal subsets of information provided by legends such as Butchart or Tomasi.

Back on April 20th, Dave soloed an inspiring attempt on Brahma via Sumner Wash. His photos blew me away. On Mother's Day jj & I joined him on another attempt. Cold temps, drizzle and a fierce snow flurry blizzard foiled our pursuit. Three weeks later Dave put together an early-start game plan. After a ridiculous amount of messaging we all agreed to play ball.

Dave and jj conquered then I was hoisted to victory. The pivotal point that hampered us last time was the top class four ascent in the Hermit. Dave shot up chipmunk style and jj managed the same feat. Despite being simple for some it's outta my league. So jj and slippery-hands Dave hoisted me in a scene reminiscent of the Kolb Brothers. It worked like a charm and was relatively safe with multiple friction options. Not to mention Dave's patented quadro-octopus thirty-two bend knot to secure the contraption. jj has a nice account of the full hike in his triplog.

Others have undoubtedly powered through this route quicker from the South Rim. The number would likely be small for mid June. Our pace was moderate throughout. I pushed on the SK return and paid the piper back ten fold in the final six furlongs. The important thing was holding borderline composure when the ladies passed. jj helped pawn if off by calling out numbers to suggest I was doing situps. Though probably not convincing curled up on my back wadded up like a tangled pipe cleaner.

Temps held to 100. Instead of sunscreen I let my skin breathe and utilized an umbrella for the intense exposure of the day. The western side of Brahma provided shade heading in and out. Afternoon wind plus unexpected wispy clouds after 4pm made this a winner. Dave didn't so much agree, his lean physique sizzles quicker.

Thanks to Dave for the inspiration, jj for the hoist and a half dozen others for sharing stories of their journey. This one packs a lot obstacles. It's feels about 2/3rds of an Isis journey with minimal exposure.

Carried 5 quarts, consumed 7-8.

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3 broadleaf milkweeds growing in the Hermit scree on SW corner of Brahma, stunning on the shale background
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This was my third try at Brahma and first summit! Thanks Joe and JJ! Feels good to get a real butte done. I know it's no Isis but its a big one for me and I never thought I'd get this one. I think it was JJ who put it on the radar about a year ago. (And if your name is spelled the same backwards and forwards, you really missed out. But I'll go back.)

An early 1am start was the key to success on this. We started the off-trail section just as dawn approached. Sailed through the Redwall notch, 4 Supai climbs, 3 Hermit climbs, scramble to Zoro Saddle, traverse below Brahma and then fun route-finding on Brahma. We reached the summit a bit behind schedule at 10am but the temps weren't too bad at 7500'. The scramble through the Coconino on Brahma was a lot easier than I anticipated. Sad to not find a register on top but we improvised with a Gatorade bottle. (Anyone going up there: please bring a proper register container.) Joe and I did a fun rappel (my first real rappel in the canyon) on the way back though the Hermit. Temps didn't really heat up until we were back on the Clear Creek Trail. And then it was just an hour or so back to the oasis of Phantom Ranch.

On the way back to the south rim we stopped at Phantom Ranch canteen for a few lemonades (and a bagel for me) and then a quick dip in Bright Angel Creek. Just a few minutes later when we got to the Black Bridge, my pants were already dry! :o I was dreading the hike out, especially since we were starting at 4pm, but with some overcast clouds and a few wind gusts, it wasn't too bad. By the time we got to Skeleton Point it was quite pleasant.

The first time I tried this route I was pretty freaked out at the redwall notch (still the worst part) and didn't think I'd ever go back. Now I can't wait to do it again!
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Brahmā is the Hindu god (deva) of creation and one of the Trimūrti, the others being Vishnu and Shiva.

The Vishnu Basement rocks exposed at the bottom of the canyon in the Inner Gorge consists of the metasedimentary Vishnu Schist and the metavolcanic Brahma and Rama Schists that were formed 1.75 billion to 1.73 billion years ago.

I was excited to meet and hike with Scott, jj and Dave on what looked like a killer loop with just the right abilities to bring it home. On the downside Scott couldn't make it. On the plus side the loop morphed into an exciting feat of obstacles.

We headed out into a weather pattern screaming don't go. On route to the SK at 2am we made checkpoint time to Clear Creek Trail in 2.5hrs. My first trip onto CC was under moonlight into early morning light. It's always been in my mind that this is the flip canyon side of the Tonto Trail. The Tonto has never intrigued me and I avoid it. CC was a pleasant surprize hugging steep walls offering direct specific views. Yet I'm sure the nonstop ravine hopscotch would wear on longer hikes in warmer temps.

Turned off-trail up a wash to Sumner Canyon which busts through the shear Redwall in swift fashion. Rain started the tease. Dave did a mighty mouse ascent up like an olympic gymnast. It took me a minute to find the foot hold then it was no biggie. We worked up though the Supai to the long western arm of Zoroaster. The colors are phenomenal. Mainly due to the stunning red covering the arm. Not sure if it's upper Supai or lower Hermit.

8:20am made it to the final c4 approach ascent Dave found two weeks ago. The weather laughed at us for two and a half hours trying to figure out the problem. Rather miserable we agreed to throw in the towel and return. Down the two easy ropes I spotted a corner. jj & I went to check it out. It didn't net. With thawed hands and toes we gave the slab one more try. jj got it so I called Dave up. It's just outta my league, perhaps in warmer weather if I could grip stuff. So we retreated again at 12:30pm. With a break we made it back to SR64 in 6.5hrs.

Earlier around 3:30am we passed a couple guys heading down SK. I was shocked and excited to hear they were headed to Zoroaster. jj talked to them some more. They said they expected to return in the same day. Never saw them again so they either took a route I'm not familiar with or changed plans due to the weather. Nevertheless I've read some humbling journals of ascents originating at the SK as dayhikes, impressive for multi pitch c5 / 30 mi / 11k aeg. Some of them throw in Brahma like stopping by Circle K!

Despite all it was a great trip. I had a great time and look forward to returning.

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Carried 5 quarts, consumed 2.5 quarts. Expected to consume 7 quarts in more seasonal temps.
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We had a plan to hike a 34 mile loop with the goal of reaching the summit of Brahma Temple along the way. 8 miles of the hike would be off trail and it would take the better part of a day to complete. Estimated time was 17 to 19 hours. This had us departing Phoenix on Saturday night at 11pm.

Me with no sleep, Joe and Dave with very little we were on our way to the Grand Canyon. Three hours later we arrived and were making our way down the South Kaibab Trail. 30% chance of rain was in the forecast and that was to take place prior to 11am. This all sounded good.

Down we go, past Phantom Ranch before it even opens up. Then up the Clear Creek Trail and over to Sumner Wash. This is where we turn and start to head up and off trail. Rain drops start to fall, then they get bigger. We make our way up through the break in the Redwall and weather starts to get worse. Rain stops and hail starts. Wind starts blowing harder but we continue to push on. A couple class 3 scrambles here and there and then some fun class 4 climbs add to the adventure. We are getting ever closer to Zoroaster Temple and Brahma lurks behind it. Snow starts to fall. Yes I said snow starts to fall. I can't speak for the other two but I start to turn into a popsicle. Brahma disappears as do the other monuments in the park. A curtain of snow and rain has settled over the Grand Canyon.

We reach our final climb which will put us right below the top of Zoroaster. From here the plan would be to cross the saddle to Brahma and then skirt it to where we would start our ascent. The wind howls and we attempt this final climb for quite sometime. The rope isn't long enough, the rocks are wet, our shoes are muddy and the list goes on. I start to whine about the cold. I make an attempt or three at this thing and all I want to do is get the heck out of here. Freezing and frustrated I hide from the wind behind a rock. Dave and Joe continue to attempt the climb. They are close to getting it but just not quite there.

Finally we decide to retreat. On the way back down Joe spots another possibility and we decide to go check it out while Dave takes a short break. Once we see that it doesn't go we start heading back towards Dave. I tell Joe let's take one more shot at the climb. It is now that my hands have thawed out a bit and I feel I have a chance at it. Up I go and I have success. Then Joe calls Dave and he heads back up. Joe starts to make his way up but the weather remains cold and is messing with his abilities.

After a bit of time we decided that Brahma and the loop hike would have to wait for another day. Back down the wall I went and we headed out. The sun finally came out and the rest of the hike was quite enjoyable.

We didn't have success in completing our mission. We did however see a super cool side of the Grand Canyon. We also learned a good bit about this route and will be able to utilize that information in the future.

Brahma you will see us again but next time we will be standing on top of you, not just looking at you from Zoroaster. That's a promise!
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My second run at Brahma. This time I came with reinforcements. We got exactly as far as I got the first time but I felt much more confident about the climbs and they went by much easier so I still call it a success. Actually JJ was able to get to the top of the last (presumed) climb before the Brahma-Zoroaster Saddle. Joe and I, with numb fingers, still struggled. The weather was almost completely opposite from the first round. Cold, rainy and snow. All 3 of us were under dressed and freezing at times. At one point Joe threatened to recreate the R. Kelly scene from Without a Paddle. I frantically ran in place to try and warm up! :scared:

Happy Mother's Day! BTW, your mother is so dumb, she tried to climb Mountain Dew!
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My initial plan was to summit Brahma Temple and Maybe Deva Temple if there was enough time. Ha! Here's what really happened:

Got on the first bus to South Kaibab Trail and was on trail by 4:45am. Walking down, I was able to pass a group of 10 Rim2Rim runners. When they ran, they ran fast. But they also took lots of breaks. Must have been union runners. I was happy to see the water faucets were back on at the bottom. Picked up Clear Creek trail about 1/2 mile north of Phantom Ranch and followed for about 2 3/4 miles until Sumner Wash. Took Sumner Wash up to a break in the Red Wall layer which allowed me access to a cairned route through the Supai and eventually to the base of Zoroaster.
While trudging through the lower Supai, I became victim of an unprovoked agave attack. A spine pierced about 1" into my shin. I yanked it out but I think part of the tip is still inside (still hurts 2 days later and my foot is slightly numb and tingly). I didn't want to run into anymore agave so, like a midget at a urinal, I knew I'd have to stay on my toes.

There are several class 4 climbs in the Supai, 3 of them have ropes to assist. When I got to, what I believe was, the last one, I saw that the end of the rope was hanging about 10 feet off the ground. Being considerably less than 10 feet tall, this would be the turn-around point for me. I probably could have found a way up and I did have about 60' of rope with me but...so many excuses... I had already gone up several climbs that I was unsure if I'd be able to get back down. It was getting warm out and the Redwall notch had some tricky spots that were weighing heavy on me so I knew it was time to head back. So I made it almost to the Coconino base of Zoroaster. I felt satisfied enough.

On the way back I stopped at Phantom Ranch canteen for a bagel and lemonade. Took a long nap in the group site shelter. Followed Bright Angel out of the canyon. Didn't see anyone until Indian Garden and even then only saw a handful all the way to the top.

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