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West Fork Trail #151 - 4 members in 12 triplogs have rated this an average 4.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Gila Cliff Dwellings lower West Fork, NM 
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On the Second day of our Silver City Gila Mountains trip we headed up to the Gila Cliff Dwellings and the West Fork of the Gila River. 44 mile drive to the Cliff dwellings. Luckily no traffic on the road. Took the 1 mile cliff dwelling hike first (about 1.2 miles) then took the lower Gila river West fork trail.

The 1 mile cliff dwelling trail was interesting and I think a must see if in the area. Only one other family was there so not crowded at all. Couple other cars in the parking area and they were hiking on other trails that start at the Cliff dwelling. After the Cliff Dwelling trail we headed up the West Fork of the Gila River. This trail goes on for about 20 miles but we will only have time for 2 miles of it. Light flow of water in the creek and the trail crosses many times; you’re going to get your feet wet. I think many of these trails would require multiple day trips especially when the drive up is 2 hours. Only saw one other group while hiking the trail and they spent a couple of days camping further up stream.
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West Fork/Big Bear/Middle Fork/Little Bear, NM 
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Up West Fork and Big Bear canyon, down Middle Fork and Little Bear canyon. Exceptional Loop with countless river crossings of variable depth up to mid thigh. Saw one person all day!

Beautiful piney miles, then numerous miles along the river and middle fork canyon. Saw several enormous gila river trout (surprised by the size of a couple). Also saw a large bear along middle fork! first bear i have seen in quite a few years. that was amazing. stopped by jordan hot springs which was cool to see, though the day was far too warm for that to be enticing to me.

what a treat to be able to carry my filter and a couple small bottles and not have to lug 10 pounds of water for a 24 miler for once.

had lunch on the rim before dropping down to the river, which was an instant HOF lunch spot

just an exceptional hike and day
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Late afternoon jaunt after setting up camp at upper scorpion campground. Great loop. saw 4 deer and 0 people. had a snack at EE spring. perfect weather. nice night at camp enjoying unbelievable stars.
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We had a larger loop planned, but dialed it back a bit to shave a day off the total trip. We set out from Phoenix for the 6 hour drive. Google Maps doesn't even pretend this is a place you can drive to LOL. Apple Maps at least realizes there's a road. Reports of up to 2 hours to make the drive from Silver City to Cliff Dwellings proved a bit conservative for us. We managed it in just over an hour, though the whiplash induced vomiting was a bit of a negative. :/

Day 1: Middle Fork to Little Bear 7.61 mi - 300 aeg - 2:34
We set off at the crack of 2:45 for our planned short day. Middle Fork features 32 river crossings, so the warm afternoon sun was easily offset with constant splashing. West Fork was running around 9cfs and crossings were never more than knee deep. This one just gets better the farther upstream you get. We arrived at our planned camp near the junction with Little Bear, but it was a very popular spot and we decided to continue on a bit, camping at a peaceful spot about 10 minutes farther upstream.

Day 1 Extra: Little Bear 1.9 mi - 150 aeg - 0:58
I had read that the last half mile or so of Little Bear was really special, so Ryan and I headed back from camp to check it out. It really is a special little slot canyon with a trickle of water flowing through it. Definitely worth the visit.

Day 2: Little Bear to The Meadows 11.1 mi - 500 aeg - 4:42
We continued upstream on the Middle Fork trail to start the day. After another 15 river crossings, we took a break to soak in the Jordan Hot Spring, a really nice hot spring with clear blue-tinged water and a nice gravel floor. There were a few groups camped in the area and we were happy to have avoided a night here. Heading upstream, the route progressively deteriorated until the final 2 miles were just straight bushwhacking misery through shoulder high brush and complete mystery of route-finding. The Meadows promised good camping opportunities, but all but one spot was overgrown. Thankfully we were the first arrivals on the day so we were able to take advantage of this one.

Day 2 Extra: Meadows explore 2.25 mi - 200 ft - 1:40
I had planned to continue upstream and check out some more of Middle Fork, but I gave up on that after seeing the condition of the route just to get this far. Instead I tried to piece together some of the original route from before the post-fire flooding, as well as map out the reconstructed route. I figured it all out, but it's a mess that nobody carrying a backpack wants to deal with. I found a nice spot overlooking the valley, and hit a couple hundred yards of Meadows Trail #53 ... it doesn't look like it's had any maintenance (or use) in recent memory.

Day 3: Meadows to West Fork 8.88 mi - 1700 aeg - 4:00
We set out from the Meadows to cross up and over the plateau via Big Bear #28. The initial climb is steep and steady but tops out with some stunning views across the Middle Fork to the north. There's a couple of miles of pleasant ponderosa forest strolling up at 7,000 feet before dropping down to the West Fork. This south-facing ridge was hot and more exposed, with first class views across the Gila. Once we reached the river, it was like being in a whole different world. We headed upstream less than a mile before setting up camp in a nice riverside site.

Day 3 Extra: West Fork Upstream 4.14 mi - 200 aeg - 2:01
After some well-deserved afternoon nap time, it was time to explore a bit more upstream on West Fork 151. While this West Fork also suffered from post-fire flooding, the trail was a much more pleasant hike than Middle Fork. Oh, there was no less poison ivy to wade through, but the trail was nicely trodden and overall a more pleasant cut that was more of a trail through a beautiful forest with occasional river crossings compared to the flatter, riverside, rocky, scoured floodplain over on Middle Fork. After a couple of miles, we enjoyed an afternoon beverage before turning back downstream to camp.

Day 4: West Fork back 4.73 mi - 250 ft - 1:36
Another planned easy day took us downstream along the West Fork. A couple more river crossings brought our trip total to just over 100 (add 20+ for the daily "extra" hikes!). There's a mile or so east of EE canyon where the trail is far away from the river, before dropping back down and leading to the national monument. We took the horse trail along the river to avoid the road walk that lead us back to the visitor center and the end of our loop.

Notes: Poison Ivy: Tons of it. Lots of scrubbing at the end of every day and some luck are your friends. Bears: We only saw a few piles of scat. This seems to be the exception. Everybody we talked to who were frequent visitors or had been here before reported numerous encounters. Rattlesnakes: Beautiful black-tails. Big, healthy, and plentiful. Keep your eyes open as you push through that knee high grass! (After swimming the river or in wet grass, soggy rattles are almost impossible to hear. That was fun!)

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West Fork Trail #151Southwest, NM
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we took a stroll along the west fork trail after visiting the cliff dwellings. I think we hiked out to the 6th river crossing. water was nice and cool which helped because it was scorching hot out. had a great picnic at the last 5th crossing. visited Grudging Grave on the way out.

beautiful trail. i will be back out this way sooner rather than later to check some of these longer trails out. pretty amazing area. cool drive out there too
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Gila Wilderness Loop #2, NM 
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Had a few days of carryover vacation I had to kill before the end of Q2, so I decided to head back out into the Gila Wilderness. The plan was to stay a couple nights at White Creek Cabin, and try to summit Mogollon Baldy as a day hike. Due to the fire closures north of Silver City, I decided it would be fun to try a different approach, so I came up with a route from Willow Creek.

Day 1

The route to White Creek was simple - Trail 151 the whole way. Seems logical. Went well until the turn up into Cooper Canyon, which it so happens has been completely decimated by a severe burn. The whole way up to Turkeyfeather Pass was just climbing over deadfall. Definitely not fun, and I doubt they intend to ever fix this trail with the canyon the way it is. The climb up through this canyon took way more effort than expected, and I took a short break at the pass.

The hike down Turkeyfeather Creek was much better, but the trail again got scarce in the lower part of the canyon, so it was pretty slow going the last mile or so.

Once in West Fork, I expected to make better time on decent trail. Not too far down canyon, I came upon a black bear 30-40 feet away. A few claps easily dispatched him. 5 minutes or so later, I saw a big cinnamon-colored mama bear with a cub on the other side of the creek. This was a little more concerning, but clapping seemed to do the trick here as well.

At the last water crossing before Trail 151 leaves the creek, I figured I was good on water; I just wanted to get to White Creek. Ran out of water about half way, so I was pretty thirsty by the time I got to White Creek. Set up camp near a large, welcoming group that offered welcome company with bears fresh on the mind.

Day 2

I have a separate GPX for the day hike, so that'll be a separate thing... Suffice it to say, when I got back in the early afternoon, it was hot, and I was eager to jump in the creek... Which I did in the lovely pools a quarter mile downstream. In the early evening, we got a pretty crazy bout of wind with some light rain, but after that, it turned into a lovely evening.

Day 3

Original plan was to camp at Middle Fork somewhere. Headed up to Lilley Park, and stopped at the spring, which had absolutely wonderful water that seemed silly to even bother filtering. Then on up across Chicken Coop, Clear Creek, and down to Middle Fork. Took a break at an excellent camp site at this junction.

The trail heading upstream from here was hard to find at first, but does exist. It would seem most of the traffic it gets nowadays is of a more ursine leaning. I got to Clayton Creek before I knew it, and had to make a plan for the rest of the day.

Decided to head up to Iron Creek, but I fumbled around trying to find the trail. There were a few old paths I found in Clayton Creek, but I followed one that just brought me right back down. A few minutes later I found a trail sign, and it turns out the trail still exists; it has simply been relocated. The turn to Iron Creek is easy to miss, and this stretch of trail has a few places (mostly in burn scars) that are hard to follow.

Got to the camp site in Iron Creek about an hour before sunset, and sat down for a minute. Ultimately I decided that with just two miles to go, I may as well just hammer it out. Still light when I got to the car, I was absolutely demolished, and despite having traveled ~24 miles, had a hard time getting to sleep on account of how much everything hurt.

Overall, I can't say I'd recommend Willow Creek as an access point for anything on the West Fork. But it was fun seeing how much abuse my body could handle.

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Just a little bit of water at the Trotter Trail crossing. Some side canyons have water.

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There's some water flowing into Iron Creek, but not very far upstream.

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Flowing at West Fork.

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Good amount of water along Trail 151, although it has some dry stretches.

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There's some really gross water in there.

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This weekend I was supposed to be doing North Bass. But the GCNP decided that rather than honoring existing backpacking permits, they should open up the first thing they closed for public health reasons. But I had a backup plan, which was to check out the Gila Wilderness.

Friday - 9 miles

Arrived at West Fork TH at around 2pm MDT, and started walking. There wasn't really much of a plan; just that I would head up West Fork and come down Middle Fork. But daily mileage would just kind of be whatever I felt like. The plan for the day was to walk until there was 2-3 hours of daylight left, then set up camp. With about 2.5 hours of daylight left, and after almost 9 miles of walking, I found a really nice campsite and called it a day. Was pretty exhausted after the 6+ hour drive.

Saturday - 19 miles

Decided as I went to bed the night before that this would probably be the longest day. White Creek Cabin was only ~8 miles away, and I wanted to make it farther than that. But I also didn't want to dry camp if at all possible, which meant making it to Middle Fork or trying my luck at Prior Cabin. I decided to take the roundabout way through the Hell's Hole bend, because I have a general policy to always check out a place called Hell's Hole (this turned out to be the least interesting of the bunch, 2/5, not worth the time - maybe it was more interesting up the side canyon). Got to the last crossing of West Fork before the cabin, and also decided to check out the little out-and-back to the falls (didn't bother dropping my pack for some reason). That was more worthwhile than Hell's Hole.

Truth be told, right at that spot, a quarter mile before the cabin, was a very appealing camping area. Reavis Ranch x2. But it was only 11:30AM MDT when I arrived. I'm keeping it in mind for a later trip in which I stay there two nights and do a day trip up Mogollon Baldy. The cabin itself is OK, not as nice as the other end of the meadow, and it was locked up. Took a 20 minute break at the creek there to fill up on water and eat a couple of snacks.

Next was the climb up to Lilley Park, which was really not too bad. Just a moderately steep, switchbacky trail up a slope that felt much higher up in the mountains than the actual elevation would indicate. This stretch provided the best views of the trip, which a great overview of the White Creek Cabin area, and great views of the Mogollon Crest towards the west. Got to Lilley Park a little after 1PM MDT, and headed east on the Woodland Park trail.

That section of Woodland Park trail was just a stroll through the woods, and by the time I hit Prior Canyon 4 miles later, I was aching a bit, somewhat exhausted, and ready to set up camp. I resolved to camp at Prior Cabin regardless of whether there was water. The canyon itself was pretty, kinda reminds me of being up on the Mogollon Rim (makes sense, similar elevation). Outside of a trickling spring in the upper part of the canyon, it was dry until about a quarter mile before the cabin. With water there, and 19 miles on the day, I was pretty thrilled to not be forced to decide whether to continue on.

Sunday - 10 miles

Planned on an easy day. Figured I should get a little rest this weekend... Hiked east to the Meadows overlook, and from there down to the Meadows. My plan was to hike until about 1:30pm MDT, and then find a campsite. I didn't want to get too close to Jordan Hot Springs in order to avoid being shut out of the good campsites. Passed a great campsite near Brothers West Canyon, but it was only 1:15pm, so I kept going. At about 1:45pm, I found a decent spot at a bend. It was a bit brushy in the area, but it was situated so that the shade came early. Saw a lot more people in Middle Fork than I had seen thus far in the trip.

Monday - 9 miles

Set out hiking early (6:30am MDT) since I'd be driving back to Phoenix afterwards. Felt much better physically, on account of the rest day. Checked out the hot springs (closer to my camp than I realized), but couldn't take a picture due to a couple of bathers who eschew their garb. The trail between the hot springs and Little Bear is a superhighway compared to anything else I saw during the trip. It was actually somewhat enjoyable walking.

Little Bear Canyon was an unexpected surprise. Slot-like in the lower part, and really pretty the whole way up. The way down the other side became "let's just get this over with" mode.

In retrospect, I'm kinda glad I didn't get to do the original trip, because I had an absolute blast out there. Gila Wilderness really checks all the boxes in terms of great areas for backpacking, and I'm already looking at other routes.
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Prehike-the drive to the Willow Creek area took me down some new roads, including the drive down NM28, which is signed for high clearance only. It is impressive the amount of erosion control and new bridges they had to build from the big flash floods. Cars should drive around and take the smoother roads from Reserve.

I nabbed the last spot at the Ken Lilley campground (4 spots, one is kinda exposed) for the night to rest up. The Willow Creek Campground is closed, which I think means the restrooms are locked, as there were people still camping there?

Hike- drove to the Gilita TH (the picnic grounds are closed but there is room for parking for a few vehicles. I set down the Middle Fork trail. The area has not received any maintenance since perhaps a decade, though someone did put green surveyor flagging along the route, for about the first two miles. It is around then that flash floods had wiped out what remains of the trail for the next 3 miles, but the canyon is easily traveled by staying to the inside bends of the river, and crossing often. There are many nice meadows and some trees remain, though in areas the fires burned all the way down to the river. With about 1.5 miles left to reach the snow lake trail, the middle fork trail begins to reappear and is easily followed (with some pink surveyor tapes) til you reach the CDT. From there the next several miles are in great shape. There are several expansive grassy meadows and some debris piles from the flash flood the size of small houses. I find a nice campsite for the afternoon along the river.

The next day I continue downriver and take the Trotter trail up onto Johnson Mesa, with good trails allowing me to reach Clear creek, a reliable water source, a little after noon, and I check out the clear creek trail (Old maps, and HAZ, call it the Pine Flat Trail?). As predicted, a bit of rain and thunder appears. I dayhike up to Marrs spring and am unimpressed by the spring, but the creek is very nice.

Next day I start off by taking the Trotter trail to Chicken Coop. Chicken coop is a wonderful trail, going through old growth pine forests and meadows, though the creeks in this area are already dry this early in the summer season. At the end I reach Prior Cabin, and there is some light flow of water in the canyon. Having been here before, I was glad to find water as it can be dry. I head over to the Woodland Park trail 12, and hike past Woodland Park Tank, and see a male bear, very healthy with shiny black coat. The encounter is very healthy and soon he is running away from the trail to get away from the annoying human. I decide to press on for another mile rather than camp close to the tank and risk encountering him again.

Next day I take the Lilley Park Trail (HAZ and old maps call this the Woodland Park Trail 164), and pass by Big Bear tank (dry). This area is more desertified than the rest of the park, and is also recovering from wildfire. I reach Big Bear Trail and go through Big Bear Canyon, then finish the day by taking all the switchbacks down into the Meadows area of the Middle Fork. The area seemed a little different than I remember - and I wonder if the flash flood altered where the reasonable campsites were.

The next day I wake up to overcast skies and cooler temperatures. This was not in line with the weather forecast and it seems like a storm is trying to push in. This spurred all the flies to bite and draw blood and this proved to be incredibly annoying throughout the entire day. Because of the cooler temps though I decide to press on and do my plan for the day and most of the next day today. The trail sections that were in the floodplains were destroyed by the 2015 (?) flash flood and the new trail that replaces it varies in quality. The first 2 miles were the most problematic as you go though the narrowest part of the canyon. But even having to walk the rip-rap by the river, it isn't too bad. The trail does get faint though and at times there are multiple new trails competing to win out. When I pass the homestead drop-in area I take a break for lunch. The next section I think is the best part of the middle fork, and the next few miles I go slowly savoring the scenery. I eventually find excellent trails (2 - one on each side of the river) once past flying V canyon, and complete the main loop of my figure 8 camping at the trotter trail intersection.

For my last day I head upriver and climb up the Iron Creek trail. Once up on top of the mesa, the trail disappears and you are free to roam the forest for about the next 2 miles. After this the faintest path begins to appear, and doesn't really turn into a trail until you are about 2 miles from the West Fork. There is a nice meadow you have to go through, and then you reach the burn scar of the Whitewater-Baldy Fire. But from here the hiking is easy and I reach the West Fork trail and take it back to the road. A short road-walk completes the loop.
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light flow at intersection with Trotter. Surface water becomes intermittent as you head upcanyon.

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Light flow, there are two springs in the area.

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Light flow in lower section by cabin


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Light flow, there are two springs in the area.

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Very nice flow down Willow

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Someone had told me that White Rocks was a nice trail, so I decided for my second hike in the Gila the pups and I would start at the Middle Fork trailhead and then hike to White Rocks Tanks for a break, some water and then a return the way we came.

The hike started out very cold. In fact, cold enough to freeze the pups water where we camped and I was definitely not in a hurry to put on my chacos and start crossing the Middle Fork of the Gila, but alas I made my first crossing just after 8. However, After about the second crossing my feet were starting to feel like I was seriously starting to get some frost bite, so I put my socks and shoes back on until the next crossing, as inefficient as that was. Eventually I thought the key to my frozen feet was a set of hot springs along the river's shore. Needless to say that was a very bad idea. A little PSA here, "frozen feet and hot springs don't mix." I seriously thought I did some damage to my feet for a few seconds, as that hot water sent some pretty nasty tingling pain through my feet for a few minutes and only calmed down after I was able to rub them some with the inside of my hoodie that I had take off.

Despite the cold start, I wish I would have just spent more time enjoying the Middle Fork Trail. The trail to the tanks had some decent views, but it was generally bland trail and offered few redeeming qualities The tanks were also bone dry, which put me and the pups in a little bind, as it was around a seven mile detour to get to them. I knew it was a gamble assuming there would be water, but the forest service had it listed as a desirable destination and from the map it looked like it would be a good contender for water and I thought from the tank's name, that there were going to be a couple of nice scenic natural tanks in the rock, or something like that, but nope just two bone dry dirt tanks from yesteryear. Basically, a seven mile detour for nothing overly scenic, when we could have been tramping along the scenic Middle Fork of the Gila River. Needless to say, the dogs were happy to reach the river again, where we did a little more exploring up the Middle Fork, before turning back for the trailhead.

After getting back to the trailhead, I decided to go check out the cliff dwellings and utilize their complimentary kennels for the dogs. The kennels unfortunately looked something like the POW "tiger cages' from Vietnam and I was not putting my pups in there, even for a short tour. Not to be deterred, we settled for a quick hike of the West Fork Trail, which shares a parking lot with the cliff dwellings. The forest service notes that the trail has recently been cleared four miles in, but we only went in about a half mile, or so and turned around, as the drive back to Phoenix was looming in my mind and Cup was beat.
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Meadows - Hells Hole LoopSouthwest, NM
Southwest, NM
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Drove through some heavy monsoon rains and started out the next morning on Little Bear #729. We quickly, but easily, get on top of the mesa, pass the trail intersection 2 miles in, and head down Little Bear canyon. LBC had a trickling flow after about halfway and was quite pleasant. We arrived at the junction with Middle Fork at a nice campsite and waited for the rest of our group to catch up.

After regrouping, we headed up the Middle Fork trail, which is fantastic at this time of year with many creek crossings. The terrain is mostly ponderosa pine on wide flat floodplains, punctuated by getting your feet and calves wet crossing every few hundred yards. Yellow coneflower lines the banks of the river.

We reach and enjoyed Jordan Hot Springs, being careful to avoid submerging our heads due to the amoeba that causes meningitis. From there we packed further upriver into the Meadows, where the thunder and rain finally caught up with us as we endured a downpour setting up our tents.

The next morning we packed up the Big Bear Trail, to the Prior Canyon trail, running into some first response firefighters returning from their dispatch of working on a tree set ablaze by lightning. We then saw a mamma black bear with two cubs, which we gave a wide berth. We reach the cabin before noon. Prior Cabin is intact and nice, but locked up tight. We continued up Prior Creek trail to the seldom traveled Lilley Park trail, which we took to Hells Hole Trail and dropped down into West Fork.

Surprisingly, unlike the Middle Fork, which was clear, West Fork of the Gila River was mud soup, the look of chocolate cocoa. It appeared to have flash flooded very recently. It was also icy cold, perhaps 50 degrees or less. Numbing almost instantly. As we made our way down the West Fork, we wondered what we would do for water, since the mud coming down West Fork looked unfilterable.

We spot a trickle of yesterdays storm coming down a crack in the wall and some members decided to filter from it. I didn't like the look of it and continued downstream, crossing the river and finding another trickle I liked better that I could filter.

As I unpacked my water filter and began filtering, I hear the sound of the river suddenly increase, as the river rapids seemed to suddenly intensify. I look at the river and notice it rose 3 inches in seconds. I realize some type of flash flood is about to happen. I look at my pack which is 3 ft above the water line and conclude it is OK for now. 30 seconds later the river has already risen another ft and I no longer like the position of my pack. As I scramble down to grab it the river comes up another foot. I grab my pack and within another 40 seconds, the spot it was sitting on is already underwater. At that point, trees, logs, and a torrent of debris come flying down the river. With my pack I scramble higher, content that I can survive as I can continue higher up my little cleft in the cliff face.

I then worry about the rest of my group, which were at the other trickle in a far more exposed spot along the river. I decide to wait at least 5 minutes, as the river has risen another 2 ft since I grabbed my pack and I don't know how much higher it will get. I don't want to leave my spot as I can climb another 10 ft up easily. After awhile I notice the amount of logs is less and the river isn't getting higher, though it isn't getting lower either. I pack up my filtering gear and decide if I can get to a better spot, as I will be trapped in this bend of the canyon for awhile and my current position isn't that comfortable.

I find that I can break off branches of a tree, bypass the underwater section of trail, and get back onto the portion of the trail which is still higher than the river by a few feet. I make my way back to the last river crossing and hail my group. Some miscommunication occurs, as I think they are all OK, but what I realize a half hour later is one of our group is trapped on the wrong side of the river against the cliff face. I can see he has found an uncomfortable spot to sit and begin to worry.

We track the river. Within 30 minutes it drops a ft. After another hour, another 6 inches. In the next hour it only drops an inch of two. By this time it is getting late. I set up my tent and sleeping bag to warm up in the event that swimming may be necessary to retrieve our trapped member. I ford the river and find the flow is low enough that crossing is possible, though difficult. The water is even colder now, if that is possible. I encourage the rest of our group to help get our member off the cliff face, before it gets dark. I wait at the shallow part in the event he slips into the water and needs to be grabbed before being swept downriver.

Luckily at this point he can traverse on the side of the cliff upriver and cross without incident and everybody retires for the night.

The next morning we set out early as the weather forecast is the same, and the river appears to have flashed 2 days in a row, and may do so a third time. We head down and cross the muddy river, back to normal levels, many times. We observe some nice ruins and redirect some lost backpackers. All too soon our trip is done and we arrive at the National Monument trailhead.
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Nice clear flow

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Hot springs were flowing, beware the ameoba and filter/treat your water!

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Very light flow, but clear.

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Clear, nice flow


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Dry near Prior Cabin

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Muddy flow, seems that the fire from before is allowing flash floods with every rain and dumping ash/silt into the river.

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West Fork Trail #151Southwest, NM
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This was actually two years ago, so I will write what I remember...

Myself and 3 friends drove in from the Phoenix area in the afternoon and stayed in a hotel for the night before backpacking in. I think we stayed in Silver City, NM, but we may have stayed in some other small town. Either way I know we drove through Silver City.

I don't have the directions to get the trailhead, maybe I'll look them up and post them later. Anywho, not far from the trailhead, there is a large parking lot and visitor center. This is primarily for the Gila Cliff Dwellings that are nearby. I'll post another log and pics for the dwellings, but basically, they are pretty cool to see, and you get to go up inside them, with a tour guide, and I recommend it. We did it on the way out of backpacking. Oh, and there is some info on Geronimo as well, as he used to roam these parts.

For our trip, we walked past the dwellings, to the trailhead. Only one of my friends had done such a trip, and we had no idea what we were getting ourselves into. That friend had actually done this trip as a boy scout when he was a kid, and told us about a place called Hell's Hole, that was really cool. And I wanted to hike near water, where we could cross some rivers, and maybe go swimming. This trip sounded perfect, because there was said to be a nice swimming hole at White Creek, which would be the turnaround point of our trip.

My timeline is based on my when I took photos, but my distance estimates are probably off. (8:30AM) The first mile or two was sparse forest and light incline/decline. Finding ourselves at the Gila River (9:30AM) was exciting. Our first river crossing came 3 hours in (11:30AM). Within, 15 minutes, we spotted some cliff dwellings to the left. We decided we would check them out on our way out, and kept moving. We hiked a lot that day (at least, a lot for some first-timers carrying giant packs), and eventually set up camp at 5:30PM. A good 9 hours of hiking, with a few short breaks to rest and eat, was plenty for day one. The hike was a lot of incline and decline along the side the the mountains, and was pretty dense forest at this point.

It looks like we got a 7AM start for day 2. We hiked for a little over 3 hours before coming to a sign that read "Hells Hole 1/4." Finally, we were close. Expect, after hiking in that direction, eagerly searching for this majestic hole, we realized we were definitely past 1/4 mile. We stopped, dropped our packs, and a few of us hiked around trying to find it. We never did. It was definitely disheartening, and we decided we also were no longer as motivated to continue to White Creek, where there were apparently some nice swimming holes. We turned around and made our trip back. We made camp at 5:30PM again at a spot we saw on our way in.

After fishing few a few hours the next morning, and catching a few trout, including my first (score), we got moving. We wanted to make our camp for the 3rd night as close to the trailhead as we could, in order to have a short hike out in the morning. We only had to hike about 4 hours before we came across the cliff dwellings next to the river, and decided to camp there. Since we had several hours, we made the most of our time. We did a great amount of fishing, which turned out to be a great spot. We also ventured up to the dwellings, and took some pictures. We made sure to not disturb the dwelling as much as possible, so we didn't stay up there long.

We woke up early the next day, and were back past the trailhead by 8AM. This is when we went to the official Gila Cliff Dwellings, and finally headed home.

Despite being unable to find Hell's Hole, and too tired to make our way to White Creek, this trip was amazing. The scenery was great, and it was an overall great experience. I did also return to Phoenix with pneumonia, which sucked horribly. Next time I do a trip like this, which I hope to be Spring of 2013, I will need to load up on vitamins beforehand.
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EE Canyon LoopSouthwest, NM
Southwest, NM
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A weekend car camp near the Gila Cliff Dwellings during the heart of the summer monsoon of 2008 (which was actually pretty good compared with the dud of 2009). Hiking friend Deb and I set up camp at the Forks Campground near Gila Hot Springs from July 25-27. This is a neat spot where the East and West Forks of the Gila River converge. I just love camping during the summer rainy season, especially when it's rocking and rolling!! :)

We did this wonderful loop hike on Saturday the 26th. An easy 8 miler with tons of scenery. EE Canyon was really the best part in my opinion, but coming back out along the West Fork of the Gila was a blast too. It was a wet and wonderful weekend! :y:
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