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Nov 11 2022
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Hiking7.42 Miles 3,802 AEG
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Took *slightly* longer than expected but we barely made it out with no tickets and didn’t get locked in. Phew.
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I come out to Las Cruces annually for work and last year I looked longingly at this range without the time or knowledge for peak bagging. This year I came early... well, not too early. I rolled into the Dripping Springs visitors center at 11 AM to get a parking pass and check that my GPS route made sense with the rangers' knowledge. I was promptly told that it was too late for me to summit ](*,) The ranger quoted me 5 hours one way. Challenge accepted! I parked at La Cueva. 1:45 later I was on the summit. One of the steeper trails I've been on (steeper than Mt. Kimball in Tucson). I hung out a bit on the summit before returning back to my car. I checked in with the rangers for good measure. My third summit in three days (Guadelupe Peak on Saturday and Florida Peak on Friday)!
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
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Awhile back Nick and I were talking about this particular hike. At that time we said we should drive over and do it and come back the same day. Sounded like a good idea and it was!

I departed Phoenix at 3:30am. Picked up Nick in Tucson at 5 and we were hiking at about 9am. Per the usual it was steep and fun as can be. To my surprise there was still some water flowing in the waterfall on the way up.

Up top the views were great in both directions. I love that you can see white sands to the east from the summit.

Back down was slow and careful and then we headed off to grab a late lunch. New restaurant for me and it didn't disappoint. Good times with Dr. Frickenstien.
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this was a hoot :y:

made the long drive with The Count to check out Organ Needle. Really fun hike with some pretty outstanding scenery and terrain, especially up high. all the way going up all i could think was how bad coming down was going to be. :stretch:

the ruggedness of the peaks and formations up high is really something to see up close.

we slipped and slid our way down. i only fell once but managed to impale both hands on rocks. JJ pulled off the most impressive move of fast twitch reflexes i have ever seen in my life at one point. his feet shot out in front of him on a very steep descent...and somehow he managed to shoot his arms out to the sides and grab tree branches on either side to essentially suspend himself horizontally 3-4 inches from the ground. i'd give anything to have recorded that :o

afterwards we got some surprisingly good food on a whim at Nopolitos. The drive there and back was actually quite pleasant.

absolutely excellent day, thanks JJ :)

btw this gps track could serve as the official route, i think, as it starts inside the park at the formal trailhead. the numbers are questionable, as i don't see how you get ever get the same thing twice considering how steep this is, and often hugging huge sheer rock walls, etc
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
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It was time for another Chile Run. This time my Chandler Manager Chris would ride along. The plan was to get the Chiles and then Hike the Organ Needle.

We departed Phoenix Saturday morning at 5am and headed straight to Hatch. Upon arrival we loaded the van full of dried red Chile pods. We had some lunch and then headed to Las Cruces. This time I wanted to hike it from La Cueva Trailhead in the park instead of the old mine road. The park ranger told us that the park closed at 5pm so if we were going to hike past 5pm we should park outside of the gate. This meant an added 2.8 miles to our hike round trip. The ranger also said we would need crampons and/or ice axes to make it thru Dark Canyon.

Having neither we decided to give it a go anyway and see how far we could get up. We started our hike at 1pm. Our expectations were low and our hopes were high. The first couple miles along the trail were easy to follow. The trail led us to a really cool waterfall that was flowing in full force. Then there is a use trail behind it that reconnects with the main trail. Back on route it was an easy go. Chris wasn't feeling well but he was a trooper and held in there.

Once past the "yellow rocks" the trail turns to a more of a route and it was here that we started to encounter patches of snow and ice. Overall it was fairly easy to navigate but slowed our forward progress. Unable to see what was behind the wall of Dark Canyon our hopes got better and better the further we went up. (Dark Canyon is the final passage before making the scramble to the summit.)

Upon reaching Dark Canyon we discovered it was chock-full of ice and snow. There are trees here so we used them to help pull ourselves thru. Having no gloves and only trail runners on was certainly not ideal. At times I would sink all the way to my waist in the deep snow drifts. Determined I kept pushing forward. Chris wasn't far behind. Towards the top the only way I could go forward was to crawl on all fours to avoid sinking in. It was brutal but the top of Dark Canyon was in sight and we had only 2 tenths of a mile to reach the summit. FINALLY, we reached the top of Dark Canyon. I fully expected there to be no snow on the other side. Nope! We would need to descend thru the snow and then scramble to the summit. Our drop dead turn around was 3:30pm. It was now 3:38 and would take at least another 30 minutes to summit and get back to where were. I was game to go forward or turn back. I let Chris decide. The decision was a tough one but I believe he made the right choice and said "lets turn back".

We got the cake but didn't get the cherry! I say he made the right choice because it got dark right about the time we hit good trail. This means had we gone forward we would have still been on the steep route part in the dark. That would not be fun.

As we were walking back to the van the moon started to rise over the mountain back drop. It was the coolest moon rise I have ever seen!

I would say this mountain will be safe to summit in a month assuming no more snow.
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Nov 04 2015
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking7.50 Miles 4,150 AEG
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Wicked Cool is the best way to describe this hike. This was my third trip to the summit and it won't be my last.

I had to make a quick emergency run to Hatch for some Pequin Peppers that I use in one of my salsas. It was the perfect excuse to hike the Needle again. Only problem was when I rolled into town the skies were dark and there was lightning in the distance. I knew this one wasn't one to mess with during a storm. It is simply too steep. Ah what the heck, I couldn't resist and went for it. Luck was on my side and I didn't get hit with rain until I exited the park.

I will say that it was as windy as can be and at one point I thought I might blow right off the mountain. A big thanks goes out to who ever trimmed the brush on the way up. The path was as good as I have seen it. I made it to the top in 1:52. Not very impressive for 4 miles but on this terrain I doubt I could go much quicker. I was watching the elevation gain on the Fenix and at one point I went up 2000 feet in just 1.1 miles. :o

Maybe next time I will make a go at square top? It looks awfully cool as well.
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I was unsure of the forecast in the days leading up to this, but it ended up being an almost perfect cold winter day, except for the wind, which is to be expected at higher elevations. Today had the best long distance visibility of any of my summits thus far, so the wind was mostly for "ambiance". I wore layers, like I used to for my olde thyme winter excursions with snowshoes and crampons, and was glad I did. I was fine, but Yubao was cold for the entire trip.

This was supposed to be a Meetup hike with 8 people in total, but it ended up being just me and Yubao. That was fine as we kept a decent pace, had fun, and it was a good hike. Probably safer that way, too. Light snow, frozen trail, and gravel ball bearings over frozen soil and rock meant that both of us fell more than once. The sun was warm, and we took long breaks at Juniper Saddle, and on the summit. It was still windy and cold on the summit, but not as bad as in upper Dark Canyon, so we ended up eating lunch at the ledge climb area in the sun. It was much warmer and nicer there.

This will probably be my last Needle summit for the year. It was my 9th, a respectable number, but Yubao said it was his 24th for the year. He made his goal of summiting the Needle at least once a month in 2013. I made my goal of finally having excellent long distance views up there.
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Done with some folks from the Las Cruces group. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have done it. Extremely wet out there, and very green. Quite the opposite from a little over a month ago. So wet, water is everywhere, falling in big falls, flowing down slopes, and coming out of cracks in the rocks up high. The major downside has been the erosion, and there has been a lot of it.
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Moist, that is how I would describe today. Heavy rain on the Organs the last 2 evenings have really turned the dust to a nice stable trail. It is much better this way. The air was warm and humid, eastern like, but it meant that you could smell the moisture in the air and scents. Flowing water and small water falls were a nice treat. Everything was still brown, but that will change in the coming weeks as the rains come. Should be like a jungle over there in 3 weeks. Super hazy with no distance views. It was even hard to see Las Cruces as the afternoon wore on.
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This was advertised on the Las Cruces Meet-up and planned for the 18th. It was hopefully going to be a scramble up the western "retaining wall" route, which is supposed to be class 3. Two cancellations and a high wind forecast for the 18th had me changing the date to the 19th. I had felt ill since Tuesday and wasn't feeling great for this, and the wind was up as well. I thought I had the route description, but I never printed it out and I just brought stuff for the Rabbit Ears climbs. Useless!! Either way, I had a decent recollection of the paragraph which served as the route description in a guide written during the Nixon Administration. Needless to say, our Farm and Corn subsidies are not the only things to have changed in 40 years, and a review of the description a few minutes ago, showed me it would not have been helpful. As it was, it was pretty windy, and I would say very windy at nearly 9,000' yesterday. I do not think either myself or the other hiker would have enjoyed being on an exposed narrow spine in the wind we had up there yesterday, and we scoured the walls of Dark Canyon looking for anything that seemed appropriate as "class 3". Was there any? Certainly not compared to the stuff on South Rabbit Ear. Either way, this was not to be, and we just went up the normal way.

Things are still dusty and lose on the "trail". You've got to want the Needle Summit to get there. On the plus, we spotted a calm snake, heard some cicadas beginning to call in the lower slopes, and the maples have leaved out up high. The Gambel Oaks aren't there yet, which was surprising. Hiking this glorified scree slope which is often referred to as a, "trail", perhaps to mess with those who find themselves on it(?), I was quickly reminded of why I so very much enjoy the Rabbit Ears Canyon Hike. Solid rock! The Arizona White Oaks have mostly browned and are dormant until the rains come, perhaps in a month, and everything needs rain.
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I had planned not to hike this for a while, but needing to pick up some stuff in Las Cruces and also needing to get over 4,000' to round out March and have my first month with an AEG over 30,000' since June of 2011, there were few options. It was also a very nice day, and I was comfortable in shorts and a T-Shirt on top. Hiking this is sort of scary, and once again the trail is loose and sliding. Long dry stretches are not the best time to hike the Needle. Some rather large rocks are sliding as well, and it looks like some steeper sections collapsed since last Sunday. The air was warm, near calm, and dry today. Best summit experience yet, aside from distance views. Sierra Blanca, the Black Range, and the Sacramento were visible but not the Guadalupes. Getting further into Spring and eventually monsoon season, I expect they won't be visible again until next winter.

Interesting note: the oaks are loosing their leaves with out the new ones coming out. I've read the northern Mexican oaks do this in the dry spring and leave out after rains return. My guess is leaves will be out before rain comes, but it seems odd seeing leaves falling in March.
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Another Las Cruces hiking group hike to the Needle. After the cold front I was hoping for clear calm conditions. It was cold and more like January than almost April, and calm, but some dust remained suspended in the atmosphere and distance views were very limited. The Sacramento Mountains were barely visible.

It was still a pretty good hike in the Organs, but this is a very steep and loose trail. We took a trail from Juniper Saddle to Filmore Canyon, instead of going down one of the steeper sections. It was better that way. Up is hard, down is close to skiing in dirt. I don't expect to not go over to the Organ Mountains, but until rain comes in I will probably not hike this very often.
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I don't know how long it took, but I went slow and also parked off Baylor Pass Rd. Probably better to park at the regular Trailhead. It would be nice if for once I would get nice weather as forecast or exists when I can't hike it, as once again clouds rolled in and made a decent but slightly cool and windy day into a cold windy day. Compared to Arizona, this are is bone dry and all the soil is like powdered talc. Guess that is why there is hardly and vegetation over here. Didn't enjoy this as much as last time, but it's better than the A trail over and over again.
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I was going back today alone or with people. Met Yubao and headed out of the parking lot at 1011. Even with a 10 minute break at Juniper Saddle I was on the summit in 2 hours 30 minutes. I flew up the hardest part and was running above the last saddle. It felt good. Been a long time since my heart pumped at 160 BPM. Well, since I counted. Yubao got to the top shortly after.

The summit wasn't cold like last time, but it was windy and the views were reduced by blowing dusty and haze. Oh well. It is a shame the weather we had the last 3 days couldn't have held one more day, but it is only early February. Couldn't see very far at all with the conditions, but it was still a great hike.

Half an hour on the summit for me, and began to descend at 1:06. While still being careful on the way down, we made excellent time and with a 5 minute break back at Juniper Saddle, we were at the trailhead by 3:19. I think we did rather well, but I think I could have done better in milder, drier, calm sunny weather. We'll see how the weather is for this next time. I want to summit the nearby peak Square top, which has more scrambling.
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Started at the pick nick area off Dripping Springs Road at 5400'. I rememeber next to no elevation loss over most of this aside from near the top. I tossed in an extra hundred feet, but 9,000' - 5,400' +100' is 3,700. I can't see how 4,500' is the official AEG. We need another GPS track to get a better idea. I feel confident in my AEG, but would not feel OK posting over 4,000'.

Anyway, the hardest part about this was paying to park. It's a great hike and a new favorite. I don't know what I liked best, the views, the hike, or the area. It is different from Arizona and way drier, but there are still some trees and oaks. The rock is great. This hike only make me want to do more in the Organ Mountain. I really think the Organs are the best range in southern New Mexico.
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Now that I've had a few days to relax and unwind perhaps I can say I liked this hike. Well, not quite. I actually liked a lot about it though, especially the super dramatic scenery and seeing how the route wound its way up to the peak. I have admired this stunning range for a long time, and in recent years have camped and hiked in the lower elevations. I have looked up at that jagged ridgeline and wanted to go up there, but it is the kind of place I wouldn't want to be exploring alone. So when the Las Cruces hiking meetup group posted it, I knew I had my chance. I also knew from experience and research that it was going to be a long tough day.

The first part of the hike up to the Modoc Mine area and over to the yellow rocks is pretty standard stuff on a decent trail or old mine road, depending on your approach. After that it becomes a very steep hiker's route up to Juniper Saddle and then on up through Dark Canyon to Dark Saddle. From there it heads over to the final scramble to the peak, which is probably the best footing of the whole deal as you are on solid rock.

I don't like much exposure, so I knew there was a good chance I would stop at that one short section near the top. As such things go, it is a pretty easy move of about 30 feet. Since I don't like spots like this, plus being pretty tired from the ascent, I just hung out there for awhile with Mike, while the others went up. It didn't bother me in the least not to have reached the peak. I usually hike until I'm out of my comfort zone and then stop. At the point with the exposure, you are about 300 horizontal and 100 vertical feet from the top.

The biggest concern for me was going back down. I am always really strong on the uphill, but now that I'm not young and nimble anymore, the downhill is more difficult, and I have really slowed down descending steep terrain such as this. About half of the 4 mile one way distance is over loose dirt, scree, and dirt on rocks, sometimes at a treacherous angle. Throw in a whole bunch of big step ups and downs and you get the picture. On most hikes of this nature you get breaks in this routine, but not on this one. It was unrelenting. Think of that middle section of the Picketpost hike, except going on for miles! It therefore became a mentally tiring ordeal as well, as it required total concentration to keep from falling in many places. I made it down without falling, but did a lot of butt sliding for sure. My legs and knees got so tired that I was the last one down. Interestingly however, I didn't have any knee pain like I sometimes do.

Some of the people on the hike were doing a lot of brush trimming, especially up high in Dark Canyon. This made the route more obvious and easier to navigate without getting bloodied up. :thanx:

Got back to the cars around sunset, with the faster hikers already departed. Some of us dragged our weary bones over to Andele! in Mesilla (one of my favorite places in the area) for post hike food and rehydration.

Some final thoughts...because of the extended nasty footing on the downhill, I don't think I would go back up there again. I was glad to have satisfied my curiosity about the upper reaches however. Do not underestimate the toughness of this one! It would be real easy to get hurt up there. If you go, it will be a long physically and mentally draining day (for most people).

Also, in the generic description of this hike here, the 5200 feet AEG is too high. I like JJ3's number from the official gps route he posted. This is 4706 from where he did it from the mine road, which is about 180 feet lower than where we started at the La Cueva picnic area. Also, unless you can drive up to the green gate on the mine road, it will be a little less distance from the picnic area, say 7.8 miles RT.
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Hmmm... this is going to be an interesting triplog to compose... as might the hike description I should write to better define this trail. It is a trail, and as of the end of today, it is an open passage to the top... a few of took the extra time to remove all of the obstructing brush, even in the lower lying stretches.

Trail though it might be, for the average hiker the route moves more like a precarious off trail passage. The lower couple of miles, whether you access from the old mining road as illustrated on the GPS route, or the really nice trail up from Fillmore Canyon trail are sane, safe and pleasant. Those miles bring you nicely up to the formation called Yellow Rocks. For most hikers, their day should end at this point.

That is not to say that there is not more to experience above and beyond that point... for the very conditioned hiker... one without issues of endurance, bad knees, less than great balance, limited descending skills... and eventually, scrambling exposure, to go beyond that point might be inviting. If any of those are at issue, a less than pleasant day may be ahead..

I'm glad I hiked this trail while I am still way out of shape and carrying a heavy backpack. In shape with a moderate load it could be a fast scramble up and back down. Most of my perspective expressed in this triplog (...and I'll hopefully include that perspective in the trail description) was garnered from talking with the variety of people on the hike. Their opinions spanned the spectrum about what the day was about.

The truly fit and accustomed to this style route: it was a day out, not so different than any other...

Others felt it was a challenge day... really hard to get up and down in the allowable daylight... a day that would require three or four days to recover from.

Others... just not fun. One hiker fell six times (fell five times the last time she did it). Another hiker fell three times. Basically, there was no good footing above Yellow Rock... and that feature added undue tension to the day.

Others... worst day of hiking ever!! Terrible route... pointless to ever go... take a hammer and hit yourself repeatedly instead; it would be more fun!

Myself... the extra slow pace made the up/down relatively easy. I was cutting brush most of the time. My extra heavy pack was giving me a high quality training day, in some respects. The footing was slippery; it was not a good route for my kind of endurance training... too scaly to run up or down. I'd have to say the better, more enjoyable day would be to hike Yellow Rock instead of the peak, but then again I'm not really a peak bagger. Most everyone on the trail today was just that... they wanted that top.

That raises yet another issue... just below the top is an exposed bit of scrambling. It has very secure foot placement... a couple of easy moves and you are around it. But, there is exposure. For those hikers sensitive to that issue, it could be a major problem. I talked one hiker through the section; he was scared to death. It is hard for folks not effected by exposure to realize the extent of the issue for those feeling the over impact of irrational perspective... irrational, but very real in that moment. There could even be an argument that there could be valid danger if a mistake were to happen.

I opted to forego the top and visit with another hiker today. I'll go back another day. My camera had died by then... I have to go back for more pictures anyway. I will wait until I am fully trained up so that I can catch the other end of the viewpoint perspective.

If I do write the description it will be the hardest I have ever written... I'm not sure how to effectively balance the ranges of feelings about this hike.

Now, I do not get to rest up from the day's efforts.. I need to cleanup... pakcup... and get ready for a 6am departure in the morning on one of the longer, harder canyon hikes. Probably will not get much sleep... might be slow going tomorrow!

Oh, yeah... I cached 60 oz lemonade down at Yellow Rocks for my hike out... only an empty bottle sitting there for me when I got to it on the way out! Ideally, fluid karma will rebalance on whomever snagged my drink!!

Maybe they really needed it... Maybe they wished they were home, hitting themself with a hammer!

Good Day on The Mountain!!!
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Oct 26 2012
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 Cloudcroft, NM
Organ Needle 9012Southwest, NM
Southwest, NM
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drove over day early... checking out the jeep road approach up through the old mine site. I can walk it faster than drive! Considering the potential for vandalism, it appears better to park over in the Dripping Springs area and hike in from there. The Las Cruces group plans on doing it that way this time, so I guess I'll follow their lead. I'll walk in this other way at Thanksgiving.

Interesting to be sitting here at my campsite, online!

MIldly blusterly out... temps should start dropping here in the next couple of hours... mid 30's! Clear tomorrow... 60's... might be ideal for this hike.
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Oct 13 2012
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Organ Needle 9012Southwest, NM
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Challenging hike. Awesome destination. I have been wanting to hike in the Organ Mountains for a while now. Last time I was in New Mexico there was a fire in the Organs and the trailhead was closed. So when JJ offered to employ me as a professional Hatch chili transporter, I couldn't turn down the opportunity. Come to think of it I still haven't got my check. Are you sure the check's in the mail John? The visit to Hatch NM was a lot of fun.

The hike starts out on a rocky mining/jeep road. It gets steeper and looser as you go. Eventually you're off the road and onto a trail. It is not used much, but has cairns marking the way. The last mile and a quarter or so is brushy to go along with steeper and loose footing. Near the top there is a spot with some exposure you have to get across. Seemed easier coming down than going up. Views from the top are outstanding. It took us over two hours to make it up. We didn't spend more than about ten minutes on top because the sun was about to set. We wanted to make it down as far as we could before dark. We ended up descending about 80% of the way in the dark. The faint trail was hard to find at times and the loose footing made it even tougher. We had to back track several times to relocate the correct route. We finally made it back to the chili van at o'dark thirty.

By the time we drove into Las Cruces and finally found a place to eat, it was getting late. We still had to drive all the way to Wilcox to spend the night, then get up early to do our AZT #9 hike. I started falling asleep at the wheel so I made John drive the last hour and a half to Wilcox. It was well after midnight when we got our room. John hopped in the shower while I passed out on my bed. I woke up at 2 AM and showered. By 6 AM we were up and ready to roll again! Great hike and adventure. Thanks for setting this one up John.
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Organ Needle 9012Southwest, NM
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It was time for another Hatch Chile run for the restaurants. I talked JohnLP into going along and the plan was to load up on Chiles and then hike the Organs. We picked up the cargo van early Saturday morning and drove to Hatch where we would purchase the Chiles. From there we went and parked the van and hiked to the summit of the Organ Needle.

I had done this one once before on a previous trip. I almost forgot how steep it is and how slow of a go it can be. Given the conditions we didn't start making our way down until dusk which made this tough hike even more challenging.

The views from up top are fantastic but this one will put you to the test. I think between the two of us we fell down at least a half a dozen times. :o

As brutal as it was I still enjoyed it for the most part. Especially when it was over! :y:
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