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Goat Springs Trail #542Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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The road to the Goat Springs Trailhead is still very rough. It was fine, but slow going with my 4WD Cherokee. I would not have been happy with just a 2WD high clearance vehicle.

When I arrived at the Goat Springs trailhead around 8:00 AM, my car thermometer said it was 19°. I was dressed for about 10° warmer than that. However, there was no wind, and the sun was out, so it wasn’t bad. The trail register box is still there, but there was no register in it, and part of its support had fallen into disrepair. The forest is an interesting mix. I saw Pinyon Pine, Juniper, Prickly Pear and Century Plant. The trail is in amazingly good shape for such a little used trail.

Overall, the trail is easily followed. At the seeps, you do have to pay attention to the trail making a sharp right and going up, and don’t get misled to follow a way path down the hill.

As reported in the trail guide, the intersection with the Hell Hole Trail is marked with a sign. This area is confusing. The Hell Hole trail actually invisibly takes a sharp right at the sign. If you climb up the hill a little way, you will find the trail. The Goat Springs Trail follows the obvious path forward to the left of the sign and eventually down to the creek crossing.

After the first creek crossing, the trail generally follows a delightful babbling brook back up the hill, crossing it 3 times before getting to the end of the trail. The trail more or less peters out as it climbs onto a V between two streams, which were both dry in December. There are some usable campsites in this area, but it would be a walk back down hill to the running water.

Although there are cross-country routes that climb from here, this is the end of the official trail. At this point, I turned around and went back to hunt for the Hell Hole Trail. It was nice to get back to an area that had not been burned in the recent past. This trip would make a good beginner backpack.

After hiking to Goat Spring Camp, I hiked up the Hell Hole Trail. You can see my guide there for the rest of the story.

dry Goat Camp Spring Dry Dry
No water at the camp, but there was running water less than 1/4 mile downstream.
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Goat Springs Trail - Squaw Peak 6525 Loop, AZ 
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Goat Springs Trail #542 exceeded my expectations. Do not get excited. It's just a hike into a forest that hasn't been wiped out by fire. A couple seeps are marked in my [ gps route ] . Forward ascending views are steep grades covered with junipers. Ending in a canopy of trees that included walnut and cottonwoods near Goat Camp Spring. Perhaps five years past maintenance yet very shorts friendly. No flowing water. The seeps only produced enough for some mean looking foxtails. A couple small pools off route you might be able to filter in a pinch.

Upper Goat Spring Canyon
Soon after #542, the trees parted for a scattered boulder hop. No catclaw. Live oak teased once or twice. Kept expecting the worse and it was a saint the entire way. The upper end has three dryfalls. Maybe two twenties and a ten. Just fun.

Mudland to Squaw Peak 6525
The fun was over. A medium downpour lingered through breezeless drab... cattle range. Each step gained a pound of unshakable clay like mud. Mini victories of mud separation never lasted more than two steps. A cabin on Arnold's Mesa helped bring sanity back into play. The rains let up and we heard a hunter exiting his post.

Squaw Peak looked intimidating in the distance. Halfway across the bench of the cedarless wilderness we lunched with chasm views. Travel eased and before we knew it we were on Squaw Peak in perfect weather.

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Road walk. Down a steep powerline grade. Road walk.

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Joe hikes Squaw Peak quite often.
So when it finally got cool enough for me to give it a try, I had a loop all drawn up.
Little did I know this wasn't the same Squaw Peak the Joey's been doing. ](*,) He said his is now called Piestewa Peak...

We parked just off of 574, not knowing what the road in would be like.
The road walk to the Goat Spring Trail was the warmest part of the day. Temps got close to 80 with none of the predicted wind or clouds. The rest of the day it was in the 70's, but very humid.

We got to the Goat Springs Trail #352 and started making our way up canyon. The trail was in decent shape with only mild overgrowth in places. Shorts all the way, with very few scratches on the day. The Goat Spring area, as well as a few others areas in the canyon, were thick and lush, but never a problem to get through. The canyon did narrow the closer we got to the top, but it was just some sweet mild bouldering, all the way to the top. We hit about 4 or so dry falls, the tallest about 30', that were fun climbs. I really enjoyed this canyon. An hour later these dry falls, were probably water falls.

Up top and out of the canyon, we got a reprieve from the climb. Instead we had 1-1/2 hours of a steady rain, turning our trail runners into trail weights.

The rain stopped just in time for us to find a cabin that I'd spotted on GE. It has sign of recent roof work, but the rest of it was kinda trashy.

We ate lunch with a view of our peak in sight. It ended up being an easier traverse across the mesa than I'd feared. Finally up top, there were great views to the North and East. We'd talked about climbing this one for three years and finally did. We rejoiced as a couple of ORV's drove up... Cheaters...

On the way down, Joe almost stepped on a 4' Gopher Snake that he never saw stretched across our path. This was the second snake on the day he almost stepped on and did not see. The first slithered right between his legs as he was walking.

Good to get this one done. but there is still unfinished business out there....

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Full of muddy cow water

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Did not see the source, but there was plenty of pooling in the area.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Hells Hole Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
Full of muddy cow water
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Goat Springs Trail #542Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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I became aware of this trail because my wife's father, a Camp Verde resident and an avid hiker had talked about this as being a nice little trail. It sounded as if it would be a trail that we all could do. Unfortunately, when we planned the trip we weren't very thoughtful. We chose to drive my low riding Camry. The Camry handled the first dirt road (574) fine, but as soon as we turned on 9602 I knew that there was no way my car could handle it. (Sigh). So we ended up pulling off to the side almost immediately, about .25 miles in, and walking to the TH from there. That is when I discovered te other piece of bad news....my Garmin was dead :( . So basically, all the info about this hike is approximation.

Walking the 9602 road to the TH wasn't too bad, but it was all up hill, which took a toll on my wife and her father. The road is very doable for any vehicle with high clearance. I would guess its about 1.75 - 2.0 miles to get to the TH from the start of 9602 road. The trail, when you get there, is very easy to see. It starts from the left side of the road and is signed. About a 100 yards from the sign, there is a sign in book. I counted about 15 signatures over the last year, so the trail does get a little bit of use. Two of the groups in the last month had been fairly large, a 13 and 14 member hiking party. About a .5 miles in my wife and Clif opted to stop and turn back. From there I picked up the pace and didn't spend too much time enjoying the scenery because I didn't want them to being waiting too long.

Initially, the trail is very easy to follow. Slightly overgrown in a couple of spots. Prior to reaching the junction of Hell's Hole and Goat Spring there are literally 3 seeps in the middle of the trail. Literally! Two feet above or below the trail there is no indication of moisture. But where the trail crossed there was a nice muddy mess. At 1 of the seeps the terrain was flat enough you could actually go around it, but the other 2 had a significant slope that made going around it challenging. I tried on one to go up and around on 1 of them and almost fell right into what I was trying to avoid :o . (On the way I grabbed some large stone to assist in crossing 1 of the seeps). After passing the trail junction, it is less than .2 miles to reach the first stream crossing. The crossing was rather disappointing. For about the last . 5 miles before the crossing I could hear the stream below me. I couldn't see it, but I could hear it and it sounded decent in size. My stream crossing was a 4 inch rivulet. The trail picked up right on the other side of the stream and I could immediately tell that the traffic dropped with that daunting crossing. Trail was still very easy to follow, though the overgrowth occurred a little more frequently. The trail entered what I would call a broad canyon but I got "squeezed" (more enclosed) the further I went. I quickly noticed that there was a new stream to my left. I'm sure this stream joined with the one I had just crossed, which would account for why it sounded like so much more. The trail crossed this new stream twice, going from one side of the bank to the other. And with each crossing the trail got a little more difficult to follow. By the time I did the second crossing I felt as if I was in the forest. The sky was obscured by the trees above and the trail by the fallen leaves below. The trail was more of an impression that anything else. I followed the trail to the stream bed for a 3rd time (just prior to this I passed 2 ribboned trees, so I felt pretty good about still being on the trail) and decided this was Goat Spings. I actually have no idea if this was or not. There was no sign saying "here be Goat Springs". But I felt fairly certain that I had hiked in 2 miles from the TH and there was no clear trail heading away from that crossing. I added a rock to a cairn which I took to me mean the end of the trail and turned around and headed out.
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I love rain. And snow. But my plans for this weekend were to take me to the single worst place you would ever want to be if there is rain in the forecast. So on Thursday, it was time for a reset.

Luckily, the wilderness beards needed to get out and gather some ingredients for a future ale, and I wanted to take advantage of a rainy, cold, snowy, day in late April. The stars aligned, Liz wanted to come along, and we all set out for fun and adventure.

The wilderness beards now have a new truck that runs on homemade fuel from the duck fat they make their french fries in :y:

We headed for the Pine Mtn Wilderness, where the road had been graded in the last week. It's as nice as it could possibly be. The grader was still parked out there. The rain and snow made it a little muddy but not too bad. The issue out here is that the mud is like cement. It sticks to everything. I think chains would be useless since your tires just end up coated in 4-5" of mud, rendering traction useless. Oh well. We managed it ok after taking our sweet time.

After an afternoon stroll up Tank Canyon -- a beautiful slick-rock canyon with pools of water that would be stunning during spring or monsoon runoff -- we headed up the western hillside to capture the sunset. It's a surprisingly difficult climb, 700 feet above camp. The views were stunning. The snow-capped Bradshaws, dominated by Mingus, Union, and Towers, filled the horizon to the west. It was frigid and windy up top and we headed back down in the dark. Jon took a spill and hit his head. We had a bit of a scare since he was dizzy and disoriented, and bleeding pretty good. Head injuries are no joke, and I had the full first aid kit out back at camp. Once it was cleaned up and Jon remembered who he was and some other basic info, we relaxed a bit, and settled in by the fire.

In the morning, we hiked up toward Pine Mountain. Plenty of water in Sycamore Creek. We spotted a beautiful Golden Eagle that kept flying just a little bit farther than us. At one point I was trying to position myself for a photo, when it decided to drop a huge bomb in my direction before flying off. Luckily I avoided the incoming. Unfortunately, I didn't capture a photo.

Next we headed over to Pine's northerly neighbor--the red-headed step child of wilderness areas--Cedar Bench. I had set out to do a pic mimic of the most unique photo on the wilderness wall. It was the most entertaining part of the weekend for me, despite my total failure at capturing it even remotely close to the original. Oh well.

Liz was happy that we didn't continue driving the road that turned into a singletrack that even quads would have a tough time driving. Amazing it's so close to Camp Verde, and yet so rarely visited.

Overall a great weekend. Nice recovery from a plan that the weather washed away. Can't wait to see what I come up with next year!
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Nice flow. Didn't see actual spring, but plenty of surface water and pools. Sycamore Creek has plenty of flowing water and pools both up and downstream of the spring.

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I got to hang out with the Beards and Chums all weekend! :DANCE: It was full of drama -- laughs, tears, blood, beers.. what could go wrong? We even managed to get a little hiking in, here and there. Sat on top of a small peak, watched the sun set, hiked a wash, saw some rosebushes, almost fell off the face of the earth via the world's second worst road ever. Definitely the makings of a good weekend. :D
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Goat Springs Trail #542Camp Verde, AZ
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My friends wanted to go hunt for the elusive Arizona feral pig. But they'd never seen a map before much less a wild pig, they just heard there were some on the AZ strip and near Camp Verde. Being that CV is much closer...
So apparently, feral pigs are a big problem. I knew this from before I graduated Louisiana but had no idea they liked the desert. Destroying crops, stealing other games' breakfasts, and even just Snatch-style eating up whole animals like turkeys, they came to be like all those cute less dangerous desert donkeys. At some point in time someone released farm pigs that were deemed less than Terrific and those pigs got busy making more and more so there are pretty much no restrictions on taking them out (if only other smaller feral domesticates of the feline persuasion could be dispatched in this way ;)
Given the fact that my guys had no idea where to start, they semi picked an area near the Verde River and had me plot out some springs. I had all but drawn in a proposed route when further researching showed me my suggested route was actually listed on the Prescott NF as a "real hike." I thought to myself, "Why not? I know we won't see any piggies but there's nothing wrong with a little guy trip with some camping and guns and I get to throw a hike into the hat and later a river swim," so I packed up and we drove out.
Apparently 4 miles is "such a long hike," and "I totally hate you 11 on a 1-to-10 right now."
After the "how much further is it"-hike we headed out to a Verde River overlook I knew we could walk down to the river from. Two of them fell asleep before I blew up my tube to hike down. My now fit friend Bob and I played in the rapids and jumped into the deep sections. When we finally got back up the hill I was forced by the now awake sleeping beauties to program Dairy Queen into the gps.
After they cooled down in town we picked a camp spot right on the water closer to civilization.
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