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Apr 17 2021
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Loy Canyon Trail #5Sedona, AZ
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Up Loy and over to Hidden Hantavirus Cabin, Secret Cabin, and some nice lookouts. One section of switchbacks, but the rest was pretty gradual/flat, so felt pretty fast. Only saw a few other people out, mostly coming from Secret Mountain. On the road to the cabin, there was the softest of rain (ie snow) coming down.
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Loy Canyon - Secret Mountain, AZ 
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I’ve hiked In Loy Canyon many times before, but all of my previous visits were spent almost entirely off-trail to explore various cliff dwellings in the area, and I'd never actually hiked the full length of the trail. The plan today was to hike from Loy to Secret Mountain and check out Secret Cabin and some of the overlooks up above the canyons. Loy is a great option for socially-distanced hiking during the pandemic, but apparently others have come to that same conclusion. I'd never seen more than two or three people all day on my previous visits, but this time I passed 5-10 backpackers hiking out during the first mile or two of the hike.

When I picture Loy Canyon, the first thing that comes to mind is the red rocks and ruins from the earlier portions of the trail. The one time I hiked a little farther into the canyon, I remember thinking that the scenery became a little underwhelming by Sedona standards because the foliage blocked so much of the view of the canyon. But this time I was pleasantly surprised as I hiked farther back and the walls transitioned from red to white and towered over the canyon. I'd always thought of Loy as a relatively flat trail, not unlike Long Canyon, but the last mile and half gets much steeper, and the views looking out over the white walls and down into Loy were as unexpected as they were beautiful.

I would have loved to see Hidden Cabin, but time didn't allow it, so my hiking partner and I turned right when we reached the intersection with Secret Mountain Trail and headed for the rim. All three tanks (Johnson, Masonry, and Concrete Tank) were dry, but we enjoyed a quick lunch break at Secret Cabin before continuing along the rim. There was quite a bit of fire damage in places, but the forest has started to regrow in some of those areas.

The views along the rim were incredible--I'll have to take a closer look at a topo map to confirm which canyon(s) we were looking into...I suspect it was Hart Well, as I know we didn't get far enough east along the rim to look down into Boynton or Long. Around eight miles in, we figured we needed to turn around, and we stopped at one more vista for some pictures. It would have been great to hike to the end of the trail, but there was still a drive back to Phoenix and the ever-present risk of weekend I-17 traffic to take into account, so we decided we'd better start back. I'll have to return and start from Secret Mountain Trailhead sometime and hike the full length of the trail so I can see the rest of the overlooks and Hidden Cabin.

There were early signs of fall down in Loy, with some reds and yellows starting to show up among the green. After the summer we've had in Phoenix, it's easy to forget that it's late September. The crowds were considerably thinner on the way out, but we could see a group of five or six people up at the cliff dwellings. About a mile before we got back to the trailhead, we heard some kind of large animal making noise in the brush, and a flock of birds scattered, but we never did see what was there, and that's probably for the best. And before the end of the hike, we had to take a wide berth around the barking dog from Hancock Ranch...they really need to fix their fence--that dog must spend the whole day barking at hikers.

We finished with just over 16 miles on a beautiful day. I definitely want to come back and see the rest of Secret Mountain sometime. Sure enough, I-17 was full of traffic jams on and off on the way back to Phoenix...but a great day of hiking.

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Apr 04 2020
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
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I was looking for a hike to do that was compatible with social distancing, and I figured that Loy Canyon would fit the bill. Three of us met at the TH -- normally we would have carpooled, but since we weren't sheltering in place together, we figured that we should each drive....and since we all have gas guzzling 4WD trucks, we did our part to increase demand for gas!

FR 525 is in good shape, and most any vehicle could get to the TH...the last 1.5 miles is a tad rocky though

This was my 5th time to hike at this TH, so I guess that it is a good thing that I enjoy hiking there. We went up Loy Canyon Trail #5 all the way up to the Secret Mountain Trail @109. Along the way we took an off-trail detour and checked out some cool cliff dwellings. Once on The Secret Mountain Trail, we went over to the Secret Cabin and did the social distancing thing while we took a lunch break.

We the reversed course back to the TH. Along the way, we took another off-trail detour to see some pictoglyphs, which were interesting.

Weatherwise, it was a near perfect day for a hike. On the way to Secret Cabin, we encountered no other hikers. On the way back, we saw one person on the Secret Mountain Trail, but we probably met about 10 hikers on the Loy Canyon Trail, but they were pretty well spread out.

When we got back to the TH, there were about as many cars there as people we encountered. On the drive back to 89A, there were several jeeps driving in on 525. There were quite a few dispersed campers on FR 525; more than I have seen before.
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There wasn't much in the way of wildflowers. I saw a few Western Wallflowers and Indian Paintbrush, along with some manzanita blooms; but that was about it.
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Apr 06 2019
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Loy's Hidden Secrets, AZ 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking15.40 Miles 2,800 AEG
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I went on another hike today that included one of my favorite trails, Loy Canyon Trail #5.

We started the hike at the Loy Canyon Trailhead, which is on FR525 just before the entrance to the Honanki Indian ruins. This trail runs about 5.5 miles up to Secret Mountain, where it ends at a junction with Secret Mountain Trail #109. At the Secret Mountain Trail, you can turn left and go north to Hidden Cabin, or turn right and head south to Secret Cabin. On this day we went to Secret Cabin but passed on Hidden Cabin.

The first 4 miles or so of the Loy Canyon Trail is nice to walk on, and there is quite a bit of shade cover on this stretch. Along the way, we went off trail to the east to check out some petroglyphs, and went off trail to the west to check out some neat Indian ruins. You'll get a good workout on the last mile of the Loy Canyon Trail -- there is a fairly steep and rocky climb up to Secret Mountain.

The section of the Secret Mountain Trail that we were on was impacted by the Platypus and Rhino fires last September and October. There are quite a few burned trees, and in places you could still smell soot and charred wood. Fortunately, Secret Cabin was spared by the fire.

This hike checks off a lot of boxes: petroglyhs, ruins, lots of trees, awesome scenery, a creek, and a cabin.
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There were several wildflowers along the way, most notably western wallflower, goodings verbena, and Indian Paintbrush.

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Mar 31 2019
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Loy Canyon Trail #5Sedona, AZ
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Met up with Kyle and headed up to West Sedona for a nice hike up Loy Canyon. The first few miles are easy going as the trail is fast with a slight uphill grade. The next mile makes a healthy climb to the saddle. From there, it's a few hundred additional feet until the short drop to the cabin. Once there, we opted to head to the west to a viewpoint where we took some pics and took our lunch.

After lunch, we headed back and made good time. We dropped down and cruised back. Along the way I made the quick detour to the ruins in Loy Canyon. Accessing these are really fun and worth the effort. After I had my fill I scrambled back down and returned the trailhead. We loaded up and were back in Phoenix in the late afternoon. Thanks Kyle for driving.
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Loy Canyon Trail #5Sedona, AZ
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Wally and I got started at the Loy Canyon TH just after 7am. One other hiker got there just as we did and was on the trail before we were. The weather was pretty chilly at the start and as we ascended the canyon, several snow squalls rolled through. the snow was like mini hail, in little snowballs almost. It accumulated on the ground, but fortunately didn't soak into clothing very well. As we got higher in Loy Canyon, the views back down the canyon were very nice, especially with the sun peeking through the clouds at times as the weather was rolling by. The last mile and a half up Loy Canyon was pretty steep and rocky in spots. It seems as I get older, the elevation at which it gets harder for me to hike at gets lower and lower. Loy didn't seem that bad compared to the recent hikes I did at South Mountain, but up north it always seems harder.

I was hoping things would level out once we got on Secret Mountain, but there was yet another climb. There were level spots here and there, but still a lot of descents and climbs through shallow canyons. There are a few really nice views down into Sedona and the surrounding area.

We were planning to hike all of the Secret Mountain Trail, but by 11:30am, we had hiked 9 miles in and it looked like we had nearly another 3 until the end of the trail. After looking closer once I got back home, it was maybe more like 1.5 miles. Still, we had a long hike back to the car already, and I forgot my headlamp. We decided to have lunch and head back. We finished hiking by 4:30pm and got home by 7:45pm. Long enough of a day for me. I'll have to plan the marathon drive to the Secret Mountain TH one day to finish that trail.

Just as I got to the TH, the hiker we saw in the morning was also just getting back. He hiked the entire trail, and went even further, he said. He said he also saw a herd of elk up there.
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It was bizarro Saturday. I was hiking up north and Bruce was hiking in the Supes. :-s The weather was changing all day. On the drive to the trailhead the road was dry, then wet, then there was sleet? and it stopped before we started hiking. The hike started off cool but it warmed up as we went. The climb up was cloudy and it looked like fog higher up. It hailed/snowed for a while then there were patches of sun breaking through. Once up on Secret Mountain the sun came out for a while and it seemed warm for a bit. We stopped for lunch and were cold by the time we started back down. The hike down was nice and warm in the sun and then some light snow fell for a bit with felt good as it cooled the air. This was a good hike the light snow was easy to hike in and made for a good background. Chris and I made decent time on the hike down and were finished well before dark.
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Loy Canyon - Secret Mountain, AZ 
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Nice hike through oaks then pines up to two cabins. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Loy Canyon - Secret Mountain, AZ 
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we kind of threw this one together last minute, deciding on the sedona area
i had been intrigued by the area west of the fay/bear/doe mountain trailheads
saw @dixieflyer had done a version of this hike and found a track of @chumley's that led to two cabins, making for a destination up top
my vehicle made it to the trailhead just fine (high clearance is helpful) and we got going around 0900
gradual ascent up loy canyon with a few dry creek crossings
some red rock views, but usually obscured by trees
the trail gets steeper at about four miles, with switchbacks and slanted slickrock to negotiate
views of loy canyon and secret mountain open up
isolated fall color in the canyon
hit the intersection with secret mountain trail at a saddle
went to secret cabin first, hiking through some burn areas
no roof, mostly just an outline of timbers, along with a corral
returned to the saddle and headed for hidden cabin
better views close to the edge until the trail ends and a forest road leads to the cabin
this one has a roof and three rooms, corral and water tank but is kind of trashy and full of rat/mouse turds
we peeked in but tried not to breathe
striking contrast between burned forest on the north side and green on the south side of the road
back to the saddle and down to a ledge where we took a snack break and enjoyed the views
good trail for the descent although there were a few sandy areas
while not the typical red rock sedona experience, a nice hike in a canyon and forest
we didn't see anyone else on the trail
if i did this one again, it would be to look for the ruins, and maybe go to the end of secret mountain trail, like bruce and joe did earlier this year
new and different, so all good
we had planned to camp off 525C, but ended up going into town for an early dinner and some football
found a great campsite just before dark off forest road 618 along the walker basin trailhead access, south of wet beaver creek
enjoyed a beautiful sunset and a fire
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Loy Canyon to Secret Cabin, AZ 
Loy Canyon to Secret Cabin, AZ
 
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I had never been to Secret Cabin, so today sounded like a good day to go.

I began the hike at the Loy Canyon TH, on FR 525, just before the Honanki Ruins.

FR 525 has really deteriorated over the last month. I went out there 5-6 weeks ago, and while the road was a bit rough and rocky in some places, a passenger car could have driven it. However, a high clearance vehicle is now needed in one washed out spot, about 1.5 miles from the TH. FR525 is about one gullywasher away from becoming a jeep road to the TH.

The first 4 miles or so of the Loy Canyon Trail are really nice -- lots of sun protection, and you can catch some nice views occastionally of the red rock country. The trail does get a bit steep and rocky for the last mile or so as you continue on to the Secret Mountain Trail.

The secret mountain trail has recently been burned, I would assume from the Rhino and/or Platypus fire back in August and September. You could still smell it. I hiked on the Secret Mountain Trail as far as Secret Cabin, and there was burn evidence the whole way. In spite of that, I still enjoyed hiking this trail. After 1/2 mile or so, I hiked alongside a creek, and passed a couple dams along the way (Masonry Tank and Concrete Tank). Secret Cabin was not affected by the fire.

On the way back I stopped off at some cliff ruins which were off of the west side of the trail. The ruins were pretty neat. On my way there I saw 3 other people who were trying to find the ruins. I pointed out where the ruins were, and told them they could follow me. I started walking up the side of a big slick rock and they wanted no part of that so they did not follow me -- something tells me that they weren't HAZers!

After viewing the cliff ruins, I headed back toward the trailhead and went east off the trail to some petroglyphs and rock art. This rock art wasn't all that great: some had likely been made by primitive man, but some was obviously white man graffiti.

I think that there are some more cliff ruins to the SW of the cliff ruins that I visited. One of these days I'll get out there and try to find them.

I did not see much in the way of wildlife: on the way to the TH, I saw 4-5 beside FR525; and I saw a rabbit on the Loy Canyon Trail

I imagine that there was plenty of filterable water in the creek that was alongside the trail going to Secret Cabin, although some of water looked pretty stagnant, and there was soot and charcoal from the fire in some of the water.
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There are a few oak trees with yellow leaves, but nothing very spectacular.
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May 12 2018
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Secret Mountain 6607, AZ 
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Hiking21.63 Miles 4,063 AEG
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Dial back to 2009. I had a deep desire to walk on Secret Mountain. Father Dave, Denny, Snowlar System Kokopelli and I failed to access via [ Boynton's Backyard ] . 2 months later, Christmas came 7 days early. Without prayer or chip kokopelli we made it happen in kryptonite snow. You can drive up the mountain. That drive is 7 hrs RT from the skillet. 3 hrs more hiking / less driving is more appealing for myself.

Loy Canyon Trail #5
Several miles of nice forest hunkered in a red rock canyon is mighty enjoyable in nice weather. Semi sandy tread for a mile, lack of a running creek and bumpy road access keeps the wild idiots or whatever the current term is out.

A meaty ascent then dynamite views seal the deal.

Secret Mountain Trail #109
First time on the trail past the cabin. Pines were better than anticipated. My second fav to North Rim GC with canyon views. Here you get red rock canyon views plus the San Francisco Peaks. The trail is great then swallowed by manzanita 0.3 miles before 6607... wild buffer. The most forgiving manzanita I recall but let's keep that on the down low.

Content with turning around the eagle forged on. Grateful. A view I never expected opened up.

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This is a 3.2 out of 5 for 4 out of 5. A solid 5 for this mixed up kokopelli that enjoys Piestewa Peak.

2009 memories with a great kokopelli
- petrified wood 3:45
- music & views 6:30
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Loy Canyon - Secret Mountain - 6607, AZ 
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I've always liked the Loy Canyon trail and the top of Secret Mountain contains some beautiful stands of pines. I'd only been on the Secret Mountain Trail #109 as far as the not so secret, "Secret Cabin". When Joe suggested hitting the trail to the end and beyond to 6607, I was in.

After a few problems with my intrepid Navigator, we finally reached the TH for a later that expected 8am start.

Loy Canyon Trail #5 climbs relatively gently for the first 4 miles, gaining about 1000'. The final mile to the saddle gains an additional 750', most of it in one steep section. The first 4 miles is pretty, shaded with pines and mixed deciduous trees and spotty canyon views. The first two miles has a few pesky areas of sand.

When you get to the Saddle where you intersect Secret Mountain Trail #109, you still have another 200' of climbing to do before dropping into the cabin area, 1.2 miles from the saddle.

From the cabin it's about 5.5 miles, rollercoastering 5 climbs of 75' to 200' to get to the end. At the top of the climb out of the cabin, where the trail takes a hard left, take a few minutes to go straight and check out the first of many great views for the day. We had some pretty strong winds on the day, gusting to more than 40mph, that forced you to not get to close to the edge.

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You go through areas of nice established pine forest, thick new growth pine, mixed hardwoods and some areas of manzanita. There are quite a few areas that you can walk slightly off the trail to get some good views. This trail is in much better than expected shape, until it abruptly ends prior to reaching peak 6607'.

We busted through the Manzanita to reach the non climactic peak 6607', before retreating to some rim views of the east fork of Long Canyon for lunch.

Temps were perfect with the high winds all day and almost cold a few times. I found myself saying "I need to get out of the shade and into the sun".

Won't be saying that much longer.

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May 27 2017
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Secret Mountain Trail #109Sedona, AZ
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Fun overnight on Secret Mountain. Carried more beer than water, finished the beer, but only 4 liters of water. :)

Met a Polish woman on the way in looking for Sedona views. She was a strong hiker and I took her to the overlook and she shared her extra margarita with me!

Later I met up with Karl and we ventured to the end of the maintained trail which is generally in outstanding shape but just ends abruptly earlier than you would expect. We pushed through a wall of manzanita looking for an old route to an ultimate viewpoint but came up empty.

Next we fought some manzy for a short stretch to get out onto a ridge that juts out into Boynton Canyon. This was a highlight.

Later we met up with Joel at camp and enjoyed a pleasant evening by the fire with a stunning display of stars.

It was breezy overnight but the hike out in the morning was just about perfect. Holiday weekend and we only saw four others on the trail. My kind of hike!

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Memorial Day weekend and I headed up to Secret Mountain meeting up with Chumley and Joel. Car campers were out in force as expected all along the forest service roads but as I got closer to the trail head the crowds thinned out. Very few others near the trail head and we only saw 4 people on the trail in two days. I hiked in about 4.5 miles meeting up with Chumley near Boynton Canyon overlook area.

After finding camp spot Chumley and I decided to explore the rest of Secret Mountain and went to where the trail ends. Our goal was to continue on to a point overlook but the manzanita was so thick we scratched that idea. Nice views along the trail about 3 miles or so from where we camped. Closer to camp we hiked/scrambled out to another point that provided great views of Boynton Canyon and steep cliffs all around.

Stayed one night and then next morning hiked back out to Secret Mountain trail head. Short hike but well worth the views and easy hiking through some great pine forest scenery.

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Backpack9.58 Miles   18 Hrs   34 Mns   2.39 mph
1,412 ft AEG55 LBS Pack
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I've had this one on my mind for a little over a year now and time now and even though I was thoroughly prepared for this trip sometimes you can't plan for the unexpected.

While driving on FR 538 on my way to the remote TH I noticed my temperature gauge going up and could not believe it, Ol Betsy was overheating! ](*,)
Even though a brand new radiator was just installed a month ago something was obviously wrong, coolant levels were low and boiling over but oddly no visible leaking anywhere.
Waited an hour and poured in a gallon of water and still had no drips
even after starting the engine, my only assumption is something was done wrong on my last repair or I've had a slow leak going for weeks (but with my OCD I would have definitely noticed that) either way it will be solved cost free tomorrow!
Anyway enough vehicle hoopla and to the hike!

Upon finally reaching the official SM TH it was already 4pm!
Not exactly the ideal time you want to start a backpacking trip when the whole purpose of the trip was for sunset photos...
It was 4.5 miles to the vista I've been day dreaming off so ground had to be covered at a very swift pace and due to my eagerness and determination it's the lightest a 55 lbs pack has ever felt, the rare occasion of walking on a trail certainly helped as well.

The views that the mountain were offering gradually became stunning at nearly every turn and dare I say the further you head east on this mountain the better the views get not to mention less travel from people.
Soon Hart Well Vista is passed to the right and as well as the stand alone iconic looking Lost Mountain that has striking similarities with the Tianzi Mountains in China.

Made it to my destination at 6:40pm and with minutes of light to spare I bushwhacked through some very dense manzanita to an exposed cliff ledge and setup to shoot under the 30-40 mph winds as I did my best to take a few compositions all while preventing my camera gear, dog and myself from blowing off the edge.
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Setup camp in the dark in a some rare prime real estate and proceeded to have a feast of freeze dried pepper beef and fire roasted jalapeños red pepper bratwursts!
My friend and I made a small fire which I was rather paranoid of at first due to the ridiculous amount of dead-fall out there so I cleared out a 10 square foot area from all debris and kept a careful eye on it until completely extinguished.
Not to exaggerate the entire ground is littered with a thick carpet of dead dry debris and the trees are in such close proximity that this area needs some serious tending to from the Forest Service ASAP!

The weather was beautiful that night and the top of the tent was not needed but I unfortunately did not wake up in time for sunrise photos, my alarm went off but my mind and body needed its rest after the way the past couple of days went.
It warmed up quick and the rest of the hike out was a relaxing up and down scenic stroll back to the TH.

My SUV started right up and drove the 169 miles back to my house in the valley with no issues at all.
Although the objective of the trip was not necessarily accomplished seeing this place with my own two eyes and having those memories is all that really matters in the long run!
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A few Honeysuckle blooms appearing on the trail just above Secret Cabin.

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Loy Canyon Trail #5Sedona, AZ
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John9LTriplogs 1,647
Hiking15.17 Miles 2,910 AEG
Hiking15.17 Miles   6 Hrs   23 Mns   2.66 mph
2,910 ft AEG      41 Mns Break
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Met up with the crew for a nice hike in west Sedona. We left the Happy Valley Park n Ride a few minutes after 7am and headed north. We drove through Cottonwood and followed FR525 (Very good condition) to the Loy Canyon Trailhead and were hiking by 9am.

We started our hike and met Lee & Jackie near the ruins roughly a mile in. Once together our group of five plus four dogs continued the hike in. The Loy Canyon Trail is in excellent condition as it makes a steady climb for the first few miles. It’s easy going and very scenic. The trail becomes much steeper around the 4 mile mark as it makes a big switchback up. We took a snack break roughly a half mile from the saddle. The final stretch to the saddle gains a couple hundred feet as it traverses to the east.

Once we reached the saddle, we decided to head north for Hidden Cabin. The going is fairly easy as you gain a few hundred feet on the Secret Mountain Trail. After a few minutes we reached the road and continued on to Hidden Cabin. We took a short break there and took a few pics. This looks like a great area to car camp. From there we headed back south towards the saddle.

From the saddle, we continued south for Secret Cabin. This section of trail is in great condition as well as you hike through a shaded forest. The trail has a slight drop in elevation as you pass three tanks with lots of water in them. The drainage also has plenty of water so now is a great time to backpack to this area. We took our lunch break at Secret Cabin which is deteriorating quickly. The entire roof is gone and the walls are roughly four feet high. The cabin sits in a small scenic valley and has a corral and a fire ring. This is a great spot to backpack to.

After lunch we started our return. The hike back to the saddle went by quickly and we cruised back down the Loy Canyon Trail. There were some clouds and a few drops of rain but nothing significant. We neared the ruins and FOTG & Chumley headed up to take a look. Kyle and I headed back to the truck at the TH. We were back in Phoenix around 5:30pm.

This was a fun hike with great views. All of us really enjoyed it and would return another time. It was great hiking with Lee, Jackie and the pups again. And thanks Chumley for driving!
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Loy Canyon Trail #5Sedona, AZ
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Tough_BootsTriplogs 755
Hiking15.25 Miles 2,830 AEG
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Really great hike today. We took Loy up Secret Mountain and checked out Hidden Cabin and Secret Cabin. With 5 hikers and 4 dogs we were quite the pack. Loy was a much better trail than I had suspected. I'll definitely do this one again.
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Loy Hidden Secret, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking16.02 Miles 3,274 AEG
Hiking16.02 Miles   6 Hrs   49 Mns   2.83 mph
3,274 ft AEG   1 Hour   9 Mns Break
 
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Despite getting a late start due to the valleywide Verizon outage that prevented communication between us, we somehow all ended up in the same place within an hour or so of each other. :)

Great day. Perfect temps. A little breezy. Almost chilly up on top during breaks. I think we saw 7 other people on the day. Not bad for a spectacular Sedona hike.

Loy Canyon really is scenic, but you have to get off the trail to have a real view. Lee and I hit up the ruins on the way back and even I was excited. I might have wet my pants! :lol:

Good day on a new trail for me. It's a nice time of year to be in Red Rock Country.
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Mar 18 2017
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Casner - Cabins - Loy - Robbers Loop, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking23.35 Miles 4,841 AEG
Hiking23.35 Miles   11 Hrs   14 Mns   2.34 mph
4,841 ft AEG   1 Hour   14 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
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Casner Mountain Trail #8
We enjoyed this one five years ago and it held it's value. It is a high rolling road perched over red rock views. If you remotely like Ord via Slate this easier version with world class views will smack you silly.

Buck Ridge Cabin
After a nice walk through pines this was a great find. Most notable is the nearby tank, lake sized compared to most tanks surrounded by a nice forest.

We walked through a lot of pines with wind wisping above. The hike was a therapeutic recharge. In the summer you get hints of coolness. Today we got hints of scorching radiation. Sure was nice to turn the tables on that badboy.

Hidden Cabin
The "Hidden Cabin" sign in front of it gives away the secret. Another nice setting. Minus a few brownie points for lack of fishing pond.

Secret Mountain Trail #109
Only a short walk on this storybook trail over to Loy #5. The trailhead is remote and in pristine condition.

Loy Canyon Trail #5
We are currently hitting recorded temps for a good week. It was pretty toasty where this one opens up heading down. Ignore the tears as the views are just outstanding. Down into the canyon you get shade relief back to square one.

Off Trail Joy Joy
In order to make this loop work we came nauseously close to a few houses. It all appeared to be on the up and up, not one stay out sign. Just be respectful, no weapons or motor vehicles. Step two was getting across some thick brush. It wasn't terrible since the worst part was a couple hundred yards. A mile plus dodging prickly pair was the balance. The day was cooling off with the sun dropping behind a ridge so it was semi enjoyable.

Robbers Roost - Sedona
We approached this backwards. Latching to the top of an old 4wd road for a mine. We headed down and worked in the roost just as the sun melted away. No cars at the makeshift trailhead. Then three college girls leaving, surprised us rounding the corner to the roost =)

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Bruce threw together a shocking winner in ten minutes. With miles of pines up top I could see hitting this in the summer with an early start. Roaming up top more until the heat subsides then drop back into the oven. It would undoubtedly be a water lugging event.
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very isolated, two sprigs of paintbrush were the highlight

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Casner - Cabins - Loy - Robbers Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking23.99 Miles 4,865 AEG
Hiking23.99 Miles   11 Hrs   14 Mns   2.41 mph
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Needed to get to cooler ground...

I had some unfinished business in this area and reused a couple of past hikes to create a loop.

There were two (Turned out to be 3) cabins up in the pines that I had not seen yet, Plus I'd never been to the Sedona version of the Robbers Roost.

In pre-production, I stumbled on a Ruin while trying to minimize the road walk, so that added one more "Destination".

We started a tad south of the Robbers Roost and saved that for the end of the day.

We bushwhacked over to the Ruins and Class 4'd it to the top. A small but interesting perch.

Next it was up the Multi-use Casner Mountain Trail #8. If you start from FR 525C, it's a 2.8 mile steady climb, 2100' to the top. It's an old road, but you do get some tremendous views of the Red Rock-Secret Mountain and Sycamore Canyon Wilderness areas. There have been some rock slides, but most ORV's can still make it.

The first cabin up was Buck Ridge Cabin. This one actually turned out to be two Cabins. The first, a log cabin built long ago, sadly had taken a direct hit from a fallen tree. The roof had caved in. The 2nd cabin was more recent maybe from the 60's or 70's. It had a well that came into the cabin, with a pump, into the sink. It even had a poured concrete floor.

Just outside was one of the nicest tanks I'd see. All nestled in the pines, it almost looked like a swimin' hole.

We bushwhacked over to the area of the next cabin. We stumbled on some old roads that could have made it a bit easier, but I'd never seen them on the Sat. views.

I expected Hidden Cabin to be..er...um... Hidden. But there it was in view from the FR. The WARNING HANTAVIRUS sign on the front of the building was apropos. The rodents had overrun that cabin.

Secret Mountain Trail #109 to Loy Canyon Trail #5, was our way off the mountain. Always spectacular views here. The upper mile of Loy is sun exposed, but after that you are in the pines and a gentler grade for the remaining 5.5 miles.

The next part I was a bit worried about. I could see some houses on the Sat. view. We approached a few closed gates across the FR, and could see larger signs on them. No motorized traffic, respect others property, etc. so we continued through without incident.

For the next off trail section, I tried to pick stuff on the Sat. view that looked "Less Thick". There were only a couple of catclaw sections that wanted to decorate my legs. Somehow I managed not to kick any of the low growing, grass hidden prickly pear.

Finally with darkness coming, we were on an old mining road and with a stop at the Robbers Roost left. Just as we approached the Roost, 3 college aged young ladies emerged saying how they's just finished a Photo Shoot, complete with costume change?? hmmmm.

Robbers Roost smelled like purfume.... much different that the Robbers Roost in the Superstitions.
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