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Mormon Lake - AZT #29 - 24 members in 79 triplogs have rated this an average 3.4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 04 2024
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 Gold Canyon, AZ
Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
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Hiking10.60 Miles 526 AEG
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Headed up north to find a place to hike that wouldn't be too hot. Headed up the 87 to Lake Mary Rd, parked at the Gooseberry Springs TH, and started up the Arizona Trail section 29. This section of the AZT starts at Allan Lake Landing, the stopping point for an old railroad that hauled timber. The trail crosses the highway almost immediately and goes through a meadow before getting into the pines. About a half mile in by the meadow, I smelled a strong smell of death and began looking around for whatever it was. I found it, right off the trail lying in the tall grass, it was a horse. It did not look to have been there long as it was still intact minus its eyes. I did not see any signs of trauma but I could not see the other side and no way was I going to touch it as it was covered in flies and the vultures were in the trees waiting. As I continued, the trail came off the old railroad bed and headed southeast into the forest, this part of the hike should be called the pine cone trail, as it was littered with 1,000's of them which are very annoying to step on. Very minimal elevation gain as the trail zig zagged through the forest eventually heading north. A little over 5 miles in, just past Patch Tank, I came to a small canyon where the trail started a 200-foot climb. I noticed the clouds starting to build and not wanting to get caught in a thunderstorm I decided to hike down the canyon where my map showed a road through Bear Park where I could jump back on the old railroad bed and take that back. Once I got to Bear Park, however, it was marked as private property, so I bushwhacked up a small hill to rejoin the AZT and head back. It was a hot but uneventful hike back. I hate how my body responds to heat, (anything above 80 and it throws a fit) and it has gotten worse since my heat stroke incident a couple of years back. I heard some rumble of thunder about a mile from the TH and had a dog join me for a minute that was with a trailer that was camping nearby. Except for a couple of cow elk, I did not come across anything else. The end of summer can't come soon enough
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Van Deren Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Big Pool, not sure how filterable it is.
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Fulton Canyon ghost trains, AZ 
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Wanting to continue where I’d left off on my Fulton Canyon hike on October 26, 2022, I drove south of Mormon Lake after work and parked along the highway. My goal today was to travel the Arizona Mineral Belt Railroad’s grade to its final end of track when it went bankrupt in the fall of 1887. From the highway I went west across the pine forest’s rocky floor to the Railroad Spring area, intersecting the Flagstaff Lumber Company Railroad’s 19-teens-era line. I continued west, spooked a herd of elk, and arrived at the Arizona Trail, which I followed south along the Mineral Belt’s and Flagstaff Lumber (FL) Company’s dual railroad route. Pretty easy to follow the latter as it is a raised bed of rock in most of Fulton Canyon, with occasional rotten railroad ties, pretty unmistakable. FL built their roadbed on top of the Mineral Belt here. I continued on along the canyon floor after the AZ Trail diverged and soon reached Bear Park and private property, where the AZ Mineral Belt and James Eddy’s dream came to an end. Enjoyed the spot and pondered history for a few minutes before heading back north. I hiked the grade to the intersection of Bear and Fulton canyons, where two FL branches joined, then turned south again to follow the FL line up Fulton Canyon. Made it back to upper Railroad Spring when a boom of approaching thunder sounded. I turned east and made a hasty uphill beeline through the trees back to the car, arriving there about a minute before the deluge hit. Good timing!
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Aug 20 2023
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Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
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Hiking15.44 Miles 1,120 AEG
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1st time out in a month due to more medical issues and worse. Met one other just after 8:30. Was on way to Prescott when she said she'd prefer a diff option. So we trecked out further.

Beautiful spot where we saw wildlife but no people. 😊 Fairly easy so we were able to knock out mileage at a strong clip while still taking it all in.

Less challenging was intentional to test how I handle it currently. Mmmm, going to have to avoid more challenging treks till I obtain further answers. Maybe it's just as well I wasn't able to leave for a 3 day get away this weekend. 🫤
 
May 29 2023
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AZT #29 and #30 easy backpack, AZ 
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Backpack7.99 Miles 884 AEG
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This was an easy overnight backpack, a "Shakedown Cruise," I called it. I hadn't been backpacking in almost 3 years. I walked from Dairy Springs to FR 132, and back, on AZT #29 and #30. Gorgeous weather. There are plenty of places to camp along there. I set up in a flattish grove of pines. I saw a few squirrels, a woodpecker, heard some tanagers singing, saw a horned lizard. That's about it for the wildlife. Also of note, I crossed at least three small running creeks.

It was Memorial Day when I started (Monday). I guess that's why it was so crowded... I saw one group of 4 hikers on Monday, plus one trail volunteer. On Tuesday morning I saw two hikers with a cute Queensland heeler. (I used to have one, so I noticed.)

I had a few aches and pains, and wished I'd brought my Thermarest chair-frame thingy, that holds a folded Thermarest pad. Next time I'll bring it, although it weighs 10 oz. My greatest discomfort was not having anywhere to sit. Lying down also hurt, but I took Tylenol and Benadryl and was out like a light. Slept about 10 hours. I entertained myself morning and evening playing the ukulele. Guess it's a good thing there was no one else around.

Since I am so used to packing for kayak trips and car camping these days, it was hard to be Spartan. I brought way too much food, ate almost none of it. I forgot I usually am not very hungry the first couple days of a hiking trip. I am never eating Knorr Pasta again. Yuck. I didn't read the book I brought (although I would have, had I forgotten the Benadryl!) and I didn't write in my notebook.

The morning hike back to the car was a lot more fun. I felt rested and a lot stronger. Maybe there's hope for me, who knows? I think there's still a risk that @chumley will insist I should be renamed "azcouchpotato" but maybe I can turn things around...
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Mayflower Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Judging by the little creek coming out of the general area of the spring, I'd say it's running at least a gallon a minute, but I didn't walk to the actual spring.
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Oct 14 2022
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 Phoenix
Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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Hiking14.80 Miles 1,095 AEG
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Easy to get to and an easy hike. Completed 2022-10-14
 
Sep 10 2022
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 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
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Four of us installed 3 raised cattle guards (bike rollovers) on AZT #29 and #30. One just south of Double Springs CG, another just south of FR 91 and the last one north of Dairy Springs CG.
We got a bit delayed after hitting bedrock on the first two and by a thunderstorm. Two of us had to leave so the remaining two had to finish up the third one.
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Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
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Spent several days doing dayhikes to finish off segments 28, 29 and enjoy the great weather. Only saw a few elk and no deer, but lots of cows and horses. There were approximately 1 million people camping in the vicinity of Happy Jack and Mormon Lake on this Labor Day Weekend.

While the Mormon Lake segment was in perfect shape, I spent perhaps a total of 1.5 hours cutting and clearing smaller fallen trees off of segment 28. It appeared the recent storms were not friendly to the forest in this segment. There were 3 large fallen trees well beyond my capability on the trail where it makes a turn near Elkhorn tank. These will require a sawyer team and crosscut saw. Exact coordinates can be provided if requested.
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Mormon Lake, nearly all the meadows in this area, Allen Lake are bursting!

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max 9486J Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
Water here, perhaps 30% full, seemed a reasonable source for backpackers to use.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Allan Lake Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
Looks like 40% full, would be difficult to access the water

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Double Springs Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Light flow but clear and cold.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Maxie Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
A little less than half full, but the water appeared clear and a good source for AZT backpackers.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Navajo Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Lots of water here

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Shuffs Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
A little less than half full, but generally clear and looked to be a good source of water for AZT backpackers.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Smith Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Another small pond here

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Spring Beach Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Small pond here

dry Van Deren Spring Dry Dry
The ground seemed damp in this area but I didn't observe any water from the trail.
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Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
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Four of us installed 3 raised cattle guards (bike rollovers)

#1 just south of Pine Grove CG on AZT #30
#2 & #3 south of Mormon Lake on AZT #29
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Lake View Trail #132Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking3.23 Miles 520 AEG
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Deb and I headed up to Mormon Lake and the Double Springs area for a short hike and some lunch.

A few sprinkles to begin with, but temperate albeit a bit muggy after that. The breeze kept it nice. Mixed Oaks and conifer kept it decently shaded.

Not a long enough hike to make this be the reason to drive up here. If you are in the area though, the payoff off is the excellent views of Mormon Lake.

We stopped at the Mormon Lake Lodge for lunch. First time here, but I'll be back.
Very good food and large portions.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Double Springs Quart per minute Quart per minute
Guessing, based on the flow here
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I got an invite from Chums to hit up Mormon Mountain. Other than passing by on the AZT 12 years ago in 2010, I have done nothing around Mormon Mountain. So this was a treat. Also joining was 9L and his friend Jesse.

We started from the Double Springs TH and made our way to the AZT #29 and over to the Mormon Mountain Trail #58 to start the climb. 2 miles and 1,100' of AEG get you to the top. Another mile gets you to the high point just north of the towers, with excellent views of the Anderson Mesa and the peaks in Flag. We had an extended snack and continued on our loop.

We had some downhill FR walking and a bit of offtrail to get to Mud Spring/Tank.

The clouds had been building and starting to rumble. We took some lunch. As we were finishing up the others dawned their rain gear. The Norwegian known as Chums, turned into Chumalea with his unique outfit. The FR's became quite slippery with the steady rainfall. At some point, Chumalea in the lead thankfully cut us short and we were in horse to the barn mode. On the way back we did pass one remnant of the old logging railroad bed out there.

Much more to check out in the area. Good to get another hike in with Frick and Frack and no meet Jesse. She was wet early on but dried out later on.

Thanks Chums for coming up with the options and driving
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Spent a few days dayhiking mileage on the AZT, having to work around the Walnut Canyon Stage 3 closure. The weather was a mix of rain and hail the first night with a mix of heavy and light rain the following few nights. I imagine they will lift all the fire restrictions in Coconino soon.

I enjoyed the section of AZT segment #30 that goes along the old railroad line. Very enjoyable and also seemed to attract trail runners. The Anderson Mesa portion is rather dull.

Spoke for awhile to a backpacker doing the segment from Upper Lake Mary to Pine. There is no surface water to speak of along segment #30, and backpackers going the reverse direction will probably have to get by via collecting rainwater.

Sadly, I saw no wildlife except for a garter snake and a hummingbird. (I am not counting the cows roaming the mesa.) The hummingbird was working overtime to find the few isolated flowers.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Dairy Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
A small pond is here

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Dairy Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
A small pond is here

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Double Springs Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
This is a nicely flowing creek, the only water I saw along the AZT in the 16 miles of AZT I hiked.

dry Horse Lake Tank Dry Dry
Cows were milling around in the grassy area that would normally be this lake.

dry Horse Tank Dry Dry
Dust bowl

dry Lockwood Spring Dry Dry
I saw no water in this area, and the spring isn't marked/signed from the AZT.

dry Mayflower Spring Dry Dry
Saw no standing water in this area, no signs/marking on the AZT advertised its location either.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Mormon Lake 1-25% full 1-25% full
For the most part, the Mormon Lake area is dry. A few of the deepest parts in the middle still have water. I'd estimate the lake as 1% full.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Upper Lake Mary 51-75% full 51-75% full
Upper Lake Mary has water, but is a detour off the trail.
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Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
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Run/Jog14.36 Miles 853 AEG
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Trail run in the pines along Lake Mary Road. Started near Gooseberry TH and headed north on the AZT. At around 7 miles I reached Navajo Spring just south of Mormon Lake and turned around heading back the same way. Good section for running or hiking with lots of shade all the way.
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Hiking12.34 Miles 740 AEG
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Wow. What a long, memorable day! We left the house shortly after 5am and drove to Gooseberry Springs Trailhead near Payson, AZ in the Coconino National Forest. We started hiking around 8:45am. The day was sunny with cool mountain breezes and temps in the 50s. The shade was a little chilly, but the sun had it warmed up by noon.
Our hiking group was me, Gary, his son Spencer and cute little daughter Avi, and Darlene. Rhelda (Gary's wife) joined us a few miles from the end after dropping us off and parking the car at Double Springs Campground. Oh, and we can't forget Gary's loyal dog Ember.
Heading north from Gooseberry Springs, the trail was easy walking on pine needles through thin pine trees. We went through several gates and over the highway. We saw cows, deer, elk, bikers, and only a couple other hikers. Since it was "AZT in a day", I thought we would have seen more. The beautiful Fall colors were abundant and I even got "hit" by falling pine needles a couple of times.
The last mile was a bit rocky and difficult to navigate as the trail followed a dry stream. The only usable water I saw was a small stream at the end at Double Springs Campground. Our group got a little separated according the hiking speed. Spencer and Avi finished first and waited for an hour before Darlene and I arrived at 3:30pm. Gary and Rhelda soon followed 10 minutes later. We were all tired and stiff from the long hike but felt very accomplished.
We finally arrived back home well after dark, making the entire trip from before-sunup to after-sundown. I thoroughly enjoyed the hike and spending time with family!
 
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Hiking15.60 Miles 1,072 AEG
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Mom and I went out for a fun day hike to kick off the Labor Day weekend. This was our first official section of AZ trail that was have completed. We've hiked parts of other segments, including in the Grand Canyon, Cabin Loop trail, Mazatzals, and Superstitions, but this was the first passage we've completed in its entirety.

Here are some of the details from the trip, which made a great day trip from Phoenix to escape the heat!

6:30 AM: Departure from Phoenix...a little later than we hoped, but a hearty breakfast goes a long way on a lengthy hike like this.

We never actually looked at how to get to the trailhead, so we ended up taking the adventurous way, exiting I-17 at Rocky Park road and taking a combination of forest roads (127C, 127, 91, and maybe a couple others) to get to Lake Mary Road. Good thing we had a high clearance vehicle (2001 Chevy Suburban), as some of those roads were "off the beaten path". Especially 127C was very rough, with lots of rocks. It was also very narrow, sometimes scraping branches on both sides of the SUV and narrowly escaping boulders with the tires. Little did we know we could have just exited at Stoneman Lake road and had a smooth 17 mile graded road and then completely paved after that!

After dropping my mom off at Gooseberry Springs trailhead for the AZ trail, I drove up to Mayflower springs, then biked the 13 miles back to our starting point. After locking my bike in some thick forest to prevent theft, we began our 14.8 mile journey to Mayflower Spring.

The trail itself is in very good condition, mostly flat consisting of dust and pine needles. The latter half was a little rockier, with more terrain as well to make the hike more interesting. Looking back on it, we'd describe the first half as a "walk in the park" and the second half as a "hike." The first several miles of trail were close to Lake Mary road, as well as some forest roads in the area, so there was quite a bit of traffic noise. Definitely not the "wilderness" experience I often try for when hiking. Of course, it was a holiday weekend in an area famous for off roading, ATVs, etc.

The most interesting part of the hike was the "lake", i.e. 9486J tank, which was quite nice when the sun came out and made brilliant colors. The other excitement was the two informational signs put up by the Arizona State Parks association talking about the lumber industry and their railroads.

7:00 PM: Arrival at Mayflower Springs road crossing where the vehicle was parked. The end of a super long super fun hike, and just the beginning of our exploration of the AZ trail! :y:

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max 9486J Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout A little muddy, with some grass growing in it, but plenty to rely upon for filtering.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Double Springs Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Plenty of water in the creek at the campground. Seemed like they were maybe pumping the water from a well to feed the creek...couldn't quite tell. Regardless, even if that was dry, there's water at the campground faucets.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Nice clean water from the faucet
 
Jul 30 2020
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AZT 29 & 30 partial, AZ 
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Hiking16.44 Miles 1,447 AEG
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Picked up a few AZT miles while visiting Flagstaff, two on passage 30 and 6 on passage 29, plus the return. Really pretty area and the trail was in outstanding condition. Hoping to finish both passages before the end of the year. Saw a large herd, 100+, of elk on the drive in, along with some turkeys, and horned toads while hiking. Other than a few campers seen in the campground we hiked through, saw no others the entire hike. Great hike.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mormon Lake AZT #29 Trail Run, AZ 
Mormon Lake AZT #29 Trail Run, AZ
 
Run/Jog avatar Jul 25 2020
BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Run/Jog10.44 Miles 981 AEG
Run/Jog10.44 Miles   2 Hrs   18 Mns   4.54 mph
981 ft AEG
 
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We drove up to Mormon Lake and parked at the trail head north of the lake and just off Lake Mary Road. Then did an out and back trail run along the old Railroad Grade. Really nice section to trail run with very few rocks and relatively smooth tread. Gradual uphill southbound so easier run after my turnaround point back to the car. Threatened rain but nothing except cloud cover which made things cooler.
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 Joined Mar 16 2008
 chandler,az
Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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johnlpTriplogs 5,208
Hiking31.35 Miles 2,787 AEG
Hiking31.35 Miles   11 Hrs   35 Mns   3.02 mph
2,787 ft AEG   1 Hour   12 Mns Break
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This was our second AZT segment of our three day trip. AZT segment number 11 for me. 32 to go! We hiked the northern 3 miles (in and out) before setting up camp for the night.
We unloaded the sleeping and cooking gear from our packs and headed south bound in the morning. The miles went by quickly, so we decided to go all the way to Gooseberry Springs (southern terminus) and back. On the return we stopped paying attention and took a wrong fork in the trail for about a 2/3 mile redo.
We chatted with a thru hiker filtering water we had seen a day and a half before. He had hiked about 40 miles since then. Said he had run rim to rim to rim recently. Needless to say we wouldn't catch up to him on our return hike.
By the time we finished hiking for the day we had racked up 25 miles, the most either of us have hiked in quite a while.
Great trip. Thanks Kelly. :)
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67 female
 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Hiking avatar May 30 2020
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking31.35 Miles 2,787 AEG
Hiking31.35 Miles   11 Hrs   35 Mns   3.02 mph
2,787 ft AEG   1 Hour   12 Mns Break
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we decided to day hike this section in two or three segments
an out and back backpack would have required lugging a lot of water
after finishing AZT #27, we drove up to mormon lake and knocked out the six mile piece north from double springs trailhead
easy hiking and the nicest trail of the trip
found a decent campsite off forest road 240
saturday morning drove back to double springs and planned to hike at least 8 miles south, with the option of finishing on sunday if we weren't feeling the full monty
set out around 0645 with light loads in the backpacks
the first part of the trail was a little rocky, but the rest was pretty flat with smooth trail
got to eight miles and decided to go all the way to gooseberry springs
hit the gate and headed back
somewhere along here we weren't paying attention, so got some extra credit mileage for the day - like we needed that
occasional cloud cover, a breeze, some shade and an easy grade made this doable
this was the longest hike i've done in at least five years :o (25.25; as i'm putting both pieces in the same triplog)
not the most exciting passage, but pretty country hiking in the pines
saw half dozen hikers, backpackers and mountain bikers along the way
feeling a little beat up, we decided to head back to the valley
got our money's worth for one trip
stopped for thai food in payson - love that place
saw some nice storms brewing on the drive back
great trip with good company
thanks, john! :)
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Oct 10 2019
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75 male
 Joined May 04 2004
 Mesa, AZ
Mormon Lake - AZT #29Camp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking11.40 Miles 1,172 AEG
Hiking11.40 Miles   5 Hrs   33 Mns   2.05 mph
1,172 ft AEG25 LBS Pack
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Out-and-back to meet Tracey and her friend Sandy at the end of their 2-day AZT #30-#29 backpack.
I woke to a cool 34° at my campsite along FR 124C but it was 42° when I began and only 57° at the end... perfect for hiking!
Before I met them I encountered a large herd of elk led by a bull elk sporting a massive rack... possibly 16-points. Unfortunately I spent more time trying to count the points than turning my camera on and by then the herd was off into the trees.

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A half-dozen horses were drinking from it.

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Didn't see the actual spring but there were two separate marshy ponds with plenty of water.
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55 male
 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
AZT South Rim GC to Gooseberry TH, AZ 
AZT South Rim GC to Gooseberry TH, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Aug 31 2019
BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Backpack157.27 Miles 18,635 AEG
Backpack157.27 Miles8 Days         
18,635 ft AEG
 
1st trip
Started this trip with setting up the car shuttle. Friend of ours meet us at the Gooseberry Trailhead on Lake Mary Road on Saturday morning. From there we drove to Tusayan to begin the hike.

Day 1 – First day was really not part of the backpack and we did this as a day hike. From Tusayan we took the shuttle bus into the park Grand Canyon Visitor Center and then another bus to South Kaibab Trailhead. Then day hiked south bound on the AZT towards Tusayan. The trail has been rerouted since we hiked it 2015 to mostly paved track and none of us really liked the new track. I’m assuming it was done to take the trail closer to Mather Campground for easier camping options but the pavement makes it a tourist trail when it used to be a real dirt hiking trail through some nice ponderosa forest. Regardless we followed the new route into Tusayan and our camp for the night a hotel in Tusayan. Yep rough first night on the trail :lol:

Day 2 – We left the hotel before 6 and went across the street to get coffee :) Said goodbye to our shuttle friend and hopped on the AZT where we left off the previous day. We hiked south bound towards Grandview Tower. About 4 miles from the tower where the trail jumps on dirt road a car passed by that looked like a rental. About 20 minutes later we were taking a break at Watson Tank and they came back. French tourists looking for highway 64 and the way to Monument Valley. I just told them to return to Tusayan and stay on pavement. Eventually made it to Grandview Tower and took a break. After that we had about 6 miles to camp but stopped to filter water at a wildlife tank just before camp. Nice camp spot on the Coconino Rim with good views!

Day 3 – Started the day still on the Coconino Rim section with good views to the east. The trail eventually leaves the rim and we headed for Russell Tank. Unfortunately, the lack of water on the next section Babbitt Ranch made it necessary to carry enough water to make the next reliable source at Tub Ranch Tank about 30 miles away and we also needed enough for camp that night. I filtered about 10 liters for next section from Russell Tank but of course that made our packs really heavy. We continued south to Moqui Station and started the Babbitt Ranch section. About 5 miles into Babbitt Ranch we jumped off the current route and looked for the new section that is under construction. We found the pink flagging tape that marks the route which we followed for about a mile before finding camp for the night in pinyon pine and juniper trees.

Day 4 – We continued to follow the ribbons the next morning for another 3 miles on the still to be completed trail. It was time consuming but fun to follow the ribbons and see how the trail was being routed. The ribbon route eventually links up to partially completed section about 5.6 miles in legnth. We hiked that section which is mostly finished except for final touches. That led to the next section which is completed trail about 4.5 miles in length but the trail will not be open until all new trail is completed. We followed this section until reaching the current track where I looked for the next section. I found the pink ribbons marking the route but we were running short on water and it was really hot so we followed the current AZT to Tub Ranch Tank about 4 miles away. At Tub Ranch Tank we used an AZT provided rope and bucket [ photo ] to scoop water from the tank enough for camp that night if needed. However, up the trail at the junction of Babbitt Ranch and the next section there was a water cache full with public water. Many thanks to the volunteers who stock these water cache boxes!! We continued down trail for another 2 miles before finding a place to camp for the night.

Day 5 – Next day it was nice to be heading back up into the ponderosa pines and towards the San Francisco Peaks. Of course, we had several miles to the mountain but it was a nice hike leading up to it. Just before Kelly Tank we passed a group day hiking north bound. The last person in the group was a woman who asked us if we were hiking the whole Arizona Trail. We said only 8 days from Grand Canyon to Gooseberry trailhead. Turns out she was Senator Martha McSally. Thankfully we did not talk about politics and rather had a great conversation about the AZT. She is currently section hiking the trail and we talked about the trail and favorite sections. Shortly after that conversation we reached another water cache box full of public water. Again thanks to the volunteers who stock these caches. We stocked up on more water and headed up into the peaks. Storm clouds started to rumble and eventually we had a few hours of rain and hail. Nothing crazy but we did get wet and the temps dropped. We made camp a few miles past Alfia Tank as the rain stopped for the day.

Day 6 – In the morning our objective was to follow the AZT Urban route into Flagstaff. Before the trip I knew that part of the trail was closed but hoped maybe they reopened it. We hiked south bound across the Snow Bowl road and then to the Urban route junction. Once on the Urban route we continued to Schultz Creek trail head to find that yes the route was closed. It was clearly blocked so we made the decision to bypass the last 7 miles into Flagstaff. Fortunately, we were able to use Lyft to make the Holiday Inn our stay for the night just off the AZT. Must say it was a sweet luxury after five days on the trail.

Day 7 – All rested up we left the hotel at 645 and being only 3 blocks from the Urban AZT we were on the trail quickly. We passed under the I-40 and back into the forest south of Flagstaff. Good trail out of town so it was fast progress. Really nice trail between Walnut Canyon and start of Anderson Mesa with some new trail since we hiked it in 2015. We passed Anderson Mesa trailhead and then continued to the rim overlooking Upper Lake Mary for lunch break. After lunch we had a long slog across Anderson Mesa with a stop at Horse Lake for our main water source of the day and camp that night. From Horse Lake we hiked across Lake Mary Road and to a cool area called the Railroad Grade. It’s an old railroad that was constructed for the timber industry in the 1920’s but is also a great area to camp.

Day 8 – Last day on the trail we just needed to make Gooseberry trailhead about 20 miles. We finished up the Railroad Grade and hiked the lower slopes of Mormon Mountain above Mormon Lake. Our water source for the day was Double Springs. Really good water source and we had a short rain shower roll through while filtering water. After that we continued the last 12 miles with mostly good single track and fortunate to see a large 20 plus heard of elk cruising through the forest. We finished up before 5pm and happy to be done with a long portion of the AZT!
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a few wild flowers on the San Francisco Peaks #34 section. Lupine, Indian Paint Brush, Globe Mallow and others

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Alfa Fia Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
water looked decent but I didn't need to filter

dry Anderson Tank Dry Dry
completely dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Double Springs Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
great source of water. Clear, cold and plenty of water in the creek and spring

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Horse Lake 51-75% full 51-75% full
plenty of clear water but there was some cow activity. Still we filtered 4 liters

dry Kelly Tank Dry Dry
completely dry

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Lost Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
tank looked decent from a distance and definitely had water but we didn't need any

dry Marshall Mesa Tank Dry Dry
completely dry

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Mayflower Spring Dripping Dripping
small puddle and would only filter if desperate

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Navajo Spring Dripping Dripping
pipe was dripping water but it was good quality

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water was good but difficult to reach unless you don't mind wading through the marshy edge

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lots of water

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Russell Water Storage Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
there was about 3 inches of water in the metal tank with the lid. But would only use if really needed it

dry Skunk Canyon Dry Dry
no water in the canyon

dry Upper Ten X Tank Dry Dry
completely dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Van Deren Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
water was actually a small pond. It looked like decent quality but didn't need any

dry Watson Tank Dry Dry
completely dry
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