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Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21 - 37 members in 119 triplogs have rated this an average 3.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Sep 14 2024
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 Mesa, AZ
Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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Tortoise_HikerTriplogs 3,652
Hiking6.00 Miles 1,854 AEG
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Took my son in law Joe up to see what he thought of this trail. It's been awhile since he has climbed a mountain. We turned around by Bixler saddle trail junction. Weather was great! Trail had a few middle trail ruts towards the top but wasn't to bad. Another month and maybe some nice Oak and Aspen color! Nice to get up in the pines along with a few Aspen. :y:
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Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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Sep 21 2023
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 Tucson, AZ
Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking8.40 Miles 2,387 AEG
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I stayed a 2nd night in Flagstaff at the Quality Inn. Great deal $87 for 2 nights including all taxes and continental breakfast. At breakfast I met a couple from New Zealand in their 60s. They were here touring the Country and looking for a place to possibly escape the tyrannical overtake of New Zealand, which we've heard about on the news. They talked about the gun confiscations and that they no longer have freedom of speech. I told them that similar things has been happening here in the last few years. But, I suppose the main difference is most Americans will stand up to communists and fight to the death if necessary but New Zealanders won't...

Anyway, I got a last start and didn't make it to the trailhead until after 10 am. This was a very well maintained trail and I noticed there were long stretches of flat sections and some pretty steep sections scattered around, which provided good variety. At around the 2 mile mark, I saw a post that had the number "2", but didn't see a 1 or 3 mile marker anywhere. I saw 3 other hikers in the first mile of the trail, and beyond the first mile or 1.5 miles, I didn't see anyone else until I reached the road and got close to the summit. After about 2 miles, you will see a drainage to your right and the trail seems to follow that for quite a while. Eventually you will cross the drainage at around 2.9 miles, and head up near the top. There's a trail junction at 3.25 miles and that is the Bixler Trail #72. It's only a few hundred feet to a nice saddle which is a great place to have lunch if the temps are cool. If the temps are hot, just stay in the canyon or in the trees. At roughly 3.6 miles, you will reach a road. Then you will see the trail continue across the road. Take the trail which will lead up to a higher road. From here, I believe this is where the trail ends. From here, it's roughly 0.5 miles more of road to get to the summit. At the top there are some radio towers and some kind of historic sign on one of the lookout towers. There are some decent views to the South, but that's about all you can see. The day I was there, there were workers at the summit, and I didn't want to get in their way, but I was able to get to the high point and take some photos of the views. I didn't see a registry anywhere.

On the way down, I stopped at the unnamed saddle which was only a few hundred feet down the Bixler trail. It was a bit windy here, but I found a spot to have my lunch here where I was away from most of the wind. Then, I continued down the trail the same way I came. It was a bit windy at times on the way down. I saw some tall aspens mixed in with the various pines. The lower 3.7 miles of the hike is more interesting and scenic. Once you get to the road, the hike becomes less interesting and really the only point it to reach the summit and see some nice views to the South. If I did this hike again, I might stop at the road and turn back there. All in all it was a very nice hike and worth doing.
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Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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ScaredyCatTriplogs 204
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Had been bout 5 years since hiking Bill Williams. Decided to go back and add on Clover Spring. Dld route from Chumley and posted outing. All 5 sign ups showed up and on time.

Took 2 vehicles for lengthy drive. Don't rely on Google to get u there! Not much to see at spring. Steep and beautiful hike. You will climb up to Aspens and mushrooms. Towers, views and ladybugs at peak.
 
Aug 12 2023
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Bill Will Up-and-Over, AZ 
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Three humans and two dogs: We started by leaving one car at the BW Mtn. Trailhead, then drove the other car to the Benham Trail. Hiked up Benham and down the Bill Will, without walking up the road to the summit. Couple of reasons for not summiting were the stormy weather coming in, and the fact we'd all been there before. You have to walk up a road to get to the summit, no footpath for that last part.

However, my friend had wanted a 9-10 miler, and was disappointed in the distance. But not TOO disappointed, seeing as lightning struck nearby TWICE, once when we were down by the Clover Spring junction, and the second time when we'd reached the car. Not much time at all between the flash and the loud bang. Yikes!
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Jul 12 2023
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 Tucson, AZ
Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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fricknaleyTriplogs 4,124
Hiking7.95 Miles 2,474 AEG
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quick getaway to Williams. hit the TH at about 3pm which is an odd time for me to start a hike, nonetheless it was quite delightful. bottom mile was kind of hot but i got some clouds and shade for most of the rest of the way.

very pleasant hike up through the forest. bunch of columbine up high and i had forgotten about the aspens. nice summit views.

didn't see anyone the whole time
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Aug 06 2022
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Bill Williams - Bixler Combo, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking12.25 Miles 3,322 AEG
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it'd been 5 years since I'd hiked up here. With the furnace still cooking and rain chances higher on the rim, time for a redo.

We took the driving route through Prescott Valley, Chino Valley, Paulden and Ash Fork, which Schmoogle said was the same driving time, but 18 miles closer. I thought it was interesting that we saw gas prices range from 4.09 to 5.69 along this route

The hike was as I remembered. Thick stands of ponderosa and other conifers, keeping you shaded and the breezes from getting to you. The lower sections have been recently thinned. The upper sections could used some thinning being the major watershed for Williams.

From the TH we climbed 1800' to the intersection with the Bixler Saddle Trail #72 where we turned.
Bixler provides some of the best views on the hike. Bixler is in decent shape, a little thin in spots, mainly because it does not get the traffic the Bill Williams Mountain trail gets. it's 1000' down and that same 1000' back up to the saddle.

From the saddle, there is another 1500' of gain to the top of ole' Billy. The saddle area contains a mix of old growth conifers and aspen. Many times we could hear the winds in the aspens, but could not feel it. On the way up, we stopped at the same rock outcropping as in other visits, to take in the views for lunch.

On the last bit to the top, following the road, there is quite a bit of evidence of a high wind event of some sort. The tops of many aspens have been snapped off.

The summit provides good views to the south and west.

We passed a few hikers on our way back down. It was in the low 80's back at the TH.
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Bixler Saddle Trail #72Flagstaff, AZ
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking6.64 Miles 1,654 AEG
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I'd been missing the third leg of Bill's tripod and decided today would make a good day for the attempt. No cheating by coming down from the top though, I wanted to do it the way it was designed.

I've not been able to solve the mystery of the closure of FR 45. It was used as a fire break during the 2009 Twin Fire (a prescribed burn that escaped and threatened the entire mountain and city of Williams before being controlled.) I can envision a post-fire closure due to potential flooding and erosion issues, but I found no information online confirming that. On other forests that have implemented the mandated travel management rule, I've found that roads that access hiking trails are deemed necessary and kept open. This one is an anomaly.

As others have stated, it's a beautiful trail. Well constructed with nice views and a bomber bartelsesque oak forest unlike any other I've seen here. The trailhead is marked as well as the other trifecta of trails on the mountain, but of course it's now inaccessible to all but those who put in the extra effort to hike the old access road.

It's a rough road for sure, but would be passable by a 4wd vehicle with clearance -- and in fact, does appear to get some regular maintenance and driving use either by official vehicles or poachers.

After making the climb, met up with 9L and offered him a shuttle back around to his car. Needless to say, nobody else out on Bixler today! :y:
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Jul 18 2021
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Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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Forgot to log this... Was pretty achy from Colorado, but decided to summit Bill Williams since it just opened. Mostly a hike, decent weather. Nice pretty mixed conifer forest on the north side.
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Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking7.63 Miles 3,094 AEG
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I really like this trail- nice tree cover, not rocky or full of roots. Really nice hike with the doggies. Dark clouds had me nervous so I turned around before the top.
 
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B Williams Mtn - JCR Tunnel - Stone to Steel, AZ 
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Hiking14.54 Miles 3,085 AEG
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Bill Williams Mountain Trail
Nice cool mountain hike through pines and Aspen. Nothing to lose sleep over and the bottom is a drag returning. No Humphreys.
Beats the valley heat! Under ten hikers, most later in the hike.

Johnson Canyon Railway Tunnel
Enjoyed the unknown terrain (getting rare) heading in. The temp drop in the tunnel was a welcome reprieve. We hiked over/around instead of back through then took a break in the tunnel before heading back. Interesting history, amazingly little trace left. Just the grade, tunnel and very few other hints. Toasty heading back until clouds and light sprinkles saved the day.

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Decent trail for middle of nowhere. I enjoyed it but would not recommend unless already in the area. Appears semi popular with vehicle campers.

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Nice trio. Great to get in TWO new little hikes on the fringe of day hike range from the valley.

Forgot my hat today. Per usually, the HAZ Western ultralight in my pack saved the day!

Thanks to Denny for suggesting and thanks to Wally for driving
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It’s been to long. These guys are a hoot!! Thanks guys, you rock!
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Dec 05 2018
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I learned a few things on this hike.
1. Hiking in deep snow uses WAY more energy than a non-snow hike (especially uphill).
2. Hiking downhill in deep snow is super fun and fast because you can basically just slide down in many places and falling
doesn't hurt.
3. There are so many more animals around us than we realize! It is the COOLEST to see all their footprints in the snow along
the trail. I'm sure they are all aware of our presence and we are rarely aware of theirs.

Not sure what this hike would be like without snow but I'm pretty happy I got to experience it as a winter wonderland!
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I was going up to Flagstaff to do some hiking over the weekend, and decided to leave early on Friday to do my first ever hike to Bill Williams Mountain.

The trail is easy to hike on -- it is mostly dirt, and there are switchbacks on the steeper sections. The trail is mostly shaded, so it would be a good warm weather hike. The downside with all of the trees on the trail is that scenic views are limited.

There is a fire tower on top, but it was unmanned when I went did this hike. From the peak, you could look to the east and see a prescribed fire burning.
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Bill Williams Mountain Trail #21Flagstaff, AZ
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It's been 4 years since I last went up Bill Williams Trail. Gallydoll, Jan, and Yolanda joined me for the long drive up from Phoenix. We got there in 2 hours 15 minutes, way ahead of schedule. 56 degrees to start the hike at 7:30 AM. Warmed up quick. Didn't see anyone else until we were on the return trip. No one in the lookout today. Had mediocre pie and a even worse burger at Pine Country Restaurant afterwards.
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Aspens near the top were starting to change.
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Aug 04 2018
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Nice hike with a few friends. This was my first time up Bill Williams-- well worth the effort!
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I had to take advantage of the weather and get one last gasp of winter fun in before the whole state burns up. Radar returns and webcam photos decided the destination for me and it could not have been more perfect.

100% nature 🍆 today! :y:
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Oct 07 2017
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Bill Williams - Bixler Combo, AZ 
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While most flock to Aspens & Maples for Autumn foliage I enjoy the Oaks too.

Bixler is in need of downed tree removal and a good steel rake for numerous slippery pebble rocks on slanted runs. Nevertheless it flaunts one of the nicest Oak forest in Arizona.

Bill Williams Mountain Trail had more bite ascending than I recall :y: It sports some nice Aspen views but isn't much of a hit with the secret social tourist society. Out of 2-4 groups hiking we were the young guns.

Weather was nice overall. Chilly around 50 degrees on the dark northern side and borderline toasty esque in the open stretches at maybe 70 degrees.
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No huge swaths of entire mountsides plastered in color so extreme would have the eastern foliage snobs gasping. Plenty of color for desert dwellers.
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Bill Williams - Bixler Combo, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking11.67 Miles 3,366 AEG
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After a late start, we were off in search of color.

A welcome almost chilly start of 49 degrees. BWMT gets you breathing deeply almost from the start. Part way up you start seeing spotty areas of yellow aspen. At the intersection with Bixler Saddle Trail we opted to head down through the oaks to the Bixler Mountain saddle.

After a break, we made the 900' climb back to the BWMT. This climb was actually much easier than we though it was going to be. From here, an additional 600' to the summit.

We took a brief break in the Bill Williams Lookout, were Curley and Larry plied their craft.

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We skipped the Benham Trail option, in favor of an additional hike elsewhere and headed down.

When we got back to the TH, we skipped the additional hike option and opted to go for food instead.

This was probably the prime weekend for color on this hike.
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Mainly Aspen in Prime Yellow, Oaks were past prime in many areas
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