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Big Dipper - Castle Creek WildernessPrescott, AZ
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Bruce offered to help me get a couple hikes done off the Crown King road. I need 4 more hikes in the 60 hikes book and 2 of them were here. Pretty cool area with water in the creeks. The water felt nice the couple times I got in. I didn't jump off the Dipper, though! The climb out is gradual for a climb. :o :D It felt warm to me and I think I was sweating out more than I was taking in. I may of needed a few extra breaks. Enjoyed this one. Thanks to Bruce for driving and helping me check this one off! Like HAZ, he rocks!
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Denny's been after me forever to take him on his mission to clear 2 more hikes off his '60 Hikes' list.

Every time I suggest we go, he has a hair or Mani/Pedi appointment. I finally nailed him down before it got too much hotter.

The 26-mile drive to the trailhead on 'The Road to Crown King' is in pretty decent shape. We were the 2nd vehicle in the lot. Denny looked over the edge to see what we had to drop down to and almost backed out. The Algonquin Trail down doesn't seem to change much. There's just enough catclaw to keep you on your toes, but not too bad.

Both Poland Creek and the Horsethief Creek feeder, have a decent flow. When we hit Horsethief Creek, we worked to keep our feet dry. It was short-lived though as we had a mandatory 'Boys Deep' wade to get to the Big Dipper.

We hung out at the top of the Dipper for a bit, enjoying the 30' falls (and a dip in the bathtub) before returning the way we came.

View From the Big Dipper:
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There was a bit of a freshening breeze on the day with a high of 78.
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Algonquin Trail #225Prescott, AZ
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Ryan and I headed out to look for some snowmelt in a canyon running out of the Bradshaws, but got turned away when the flow in Black Canyon was higher than could be safely crossed. The BCT is one of those trails I'm saving for my 70s, which seems to be a requirement, and the only other thing in the area I could think of offhand was Badger, which I wasn't too excited about.

So I figured a drive up the hill to check out the flow at Big Dipper might be fun. After fighting mud and potholes, snow and slush, we set off down the hill on Algonquin. This one just doesn't seem to get the use it needs to fight off the catclaw, which is apparently hyper-fertilized by the pee from CK saloon visitors who stop at the viewpoint on the way home.

Blood-draws aside, we made quick work to the bottom and enjoyed the raging creek. It was immediately apparent there would be no getting down to the falls unless via one-way trip with a permanent ending. So we opted to get a couple miles in and make the day worthwhile by heading upstream to the mine. After a lunch break we headed back since the full loop wasn't an option due to timing today.

It's still beautiful here with good water flow and worth a return visit this spring. Pants may be a good choice, but I have to check the analytics from my OnlyCalves since the scratches definitely affect subscriber numbers. :D
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Was looking for something slightly cool with the 100 degree forecast in town, so Horsethief area seemed to fit the bill. There were a couple of trails I wanted to check out. Started at the SW end of Algonquin and took that down into Horsethief Canyon. Wasn't too hard to follow, just missed one switchback, and catclaw wasn't really an issue until the last quarter mile.

Then a brief flat-ish stretch in the canyon, and the steep climb up. Once at the Recreation Trail junctions, I headed east towards Twin Peaks. The first part was nice, but the climb up through the manzanita was kinda meh. Once into the forest it was was more pleasant.

Once back to the roads, I headed over to Kentuck Spring, and up to Horsethief Lookout. This trail was in decent condition. Chilled at the top a couple minutes. I had considered checking out East Fort, but it looked like it was burned to a crisp so I ditched that idea. Headed down Coal Camp Spring "trail", the first couple hundred feet of which offered false promises. It looks like someone started mowing a path through the manzanita, but gave up. The part on the ridge wasn't terrible, but a couple hundred feet of the drop down towards the saddle was straight up bushwhacking through manzanita and other scratchy things. But it eventually started opening up and the last part wasn't too bad, I even managed to find a cairn at one point.

The rest was just on road, headed down to Horsethief Lake, then back up to Algonquin TH. Traffic on the road wasn't too bad until the last mile or so, think I hit the post-lunch rush from CK.

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Lots of pools above the Algonquin junction, only found one stretch with a very slight trickle. Also a pool and a trickle where the Horsethief trail crosses a side drainage a half mile or so from the Recreation trail.
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Had the 23rd off in lieu of Christmas, so I decided to take advantage and check out the Castle Creek Wilderness trails. Started from Poland Viewpoint a little before 11:30am (probably too late to do anything too serious), the descent into Poland Creek was OK. Trail is in decent shape through here, very little catclaw until the lower reaches, where it's still not terribly aggressive...

Algonquin Mine area was a pretty stretch of the canyon.

Trail got a bit more overgrown by the time I got to Horsethief Canyon junction, but still reasonably easy to follow. Got to the steep climb out of the canyon and started questioning why I was doing this, but once gaining the ridge, the grade got somewhat more reasonable.

Eventually got to the junction with the Horsethief Recreation trail, where I had taken a wrong turn ~5 years ago while trying to check out the canyon. When I saw the sign, I understood how I had messed up the last time; it points straight ahead for Horsethief Canyon, but "straight ahead" from where there sign is oriented is the Recreation trail. Possibly they did a rewrite and never bothered fixing the sign?

Horsethief Recreation Trail was quite overgrown in stretches, with a few downed trees to negotiate. I'll bet this area was really nice before the fire. It was also quite chilly up here; there were still patches of snow on the ground, and it was a little windy.

Got to the southern end of Algonquin trail, which I was planning on taking back, but had just under three hours of daylight left. I figured it would most likely only take 2 hours to get back across, but without having seen the southern half of the trail, and being by myself, I decided to play it safe and run the road back.

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Light flow in some stretches. Some just pools.

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Algonquin Trail #225
Top of trail is a semi-washed out luge, not a concern for most. Approaching Poland Creek is starting to get catclaw naggy for about a mile, but still avoidable. Foxtails in various stages look to be a mini nightmare in about a month.

Horsethief Canyon Trail #30
Heading up, we quickly rejoiced that a maintenance crew brushed since our last visit. They took care of the big annoyances, probably as much as the rarely utilized trail will get. It still sports unfavorable grades, loose footing, little shade, and no world-class waterfalls, but I'm a fan.

Twin Peaks Trail #240
The upper portion we hiked is fabulous compared to yesteryear. Cut diameters along the trail range from two to three inches, clearly neglected for many moons. Tread would be considered rough by most. The route wasn't apparent for one fifty-yard stretch. Doubt they worked the lower trail, or it'd be near 5of5 for me.

Waypoints
Collected several* to finetune the Popup Map layout. Getting closer to the future intended functionality for RS Trip Notes.
*points of interest to myself, not helpful like the famous eagle/grasshopper waypoints.

Day in Review
Better than anticipated. Water in the creeks was lifting. Woke up at 4:18 am. Ran out of water about 4:45 pm, with a couple of miles to go. Home 11:40 pm. Cleaned up, hydrated, and coded 'til 2 am. Slept to 4:30 am for another day.
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Expected reflection of the dry conditions. Kinna needed a breather year after back-to-back super bloom years that previously only surfaced once or twice in a decade. Most notable was a droopy patch of Colorado Four O'Clock in the A.M. rejuvenated well past four o'clock!

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Looked full to me

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Light flow in the A.M.
Trickle in the P.M.
Clear and inviting.
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Algonquin - Horsethief - Twin Peaks, AZ 
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After the enjoyable 25 mile drive in on FR59 (aka Crown King Road), we parked at the Poulan Viewpoint which is the northern TH for the Algonquin #225. The Algonquin Trail has seen some minor clipping, but Joe still describes it as scratchy.

The stretch from Poulan Creek, turning up Horsethief Canyon/Creek and extending to the old Mining structure is one of my favorites. I saw my first rattler of the year here. It was all curled up and never made a noise. Even when Joe walked 6" from it. Once you are at the intersection where the Algonquin heads up hill and Horsethief Trail continues on up canyon, the recent trimming is quiet evident. (And much appreciated).

We were never more than a few miles from water all day. Horsethief Creek was running and or had clear pools the entire way. Even where it crossed the Twin Peaks Trail.

On the climb towards Twin Peaks off of the Senator Highway, Eagle Pond had plenty to filter from also.

At the intersection with Twin Peaks, Joe headed to the peaks to tackle them. I'd done them 11 years ago, so I took a break.

A bit concerned after an hour, I had not seen him, so I headed that way. I was lucky enough to run into him just as he was finishing the off trail portion of his excursion.

Twin Peaks Trail back to the Horsethief Trail, was in good shape. There are a couple of pockets of ponderosa and a few pools of water that I used to soak my neck gator.

Back down at Hrsethief Creek, I picked up the lemon aide I had cached at the creek for the final stretch. We had to be careful where we stepped, to avoid the pockets of bright green oily poison ivy.

A light covering of clouds, breezy conditions and the ability to cool off in the water, kept the temperatures decent on the day.

Always good getting back to the Castle Creek Wilderness.
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I heard there was some trail work done around Horsethief Basin and in the Castle Creek Wilderness, so I was curious to check out the conditions of the trails as well as see how the water was flowing in Horsethief and Poland Creeks. Started at the northern Algonquin TH around 7:30 and went clockwise starting with The Big Dipper.

Algonquin down to the Horsethief Trail junction is wide and clear. Left the trail where it crosses Poland Creek and hopped my way down. One tricky section where the water pools between slippery rock walls. Didn’t want to get wet, so I slid my way across on the south side of the creek. Big Dipper was running pretty good, lots of water in Poland Creek. First time seeing it running, pretty neat. Figure most are waiting a week for the temps to climb to get some swimming in.

Back on Algonquin to Horsethief Trail, which received recent maintenance. Trail is in brilliant shape. Tread is clean and the path is clear. Probably my favorite trail on the day. Steep climb up to big views.

Next was Twin Peaks Trail. Again, recently maintained and in good shape as far as I went. Looped around using Twin Peaks between Horsethief and the 240 TH. Gate is locked to get to the TH, though there’s parking on Senator not too, too far away.

Walked Senator Highway to Kentuck CG, which is no longer a true CG and is day use only. Kentuck trail is in good shape until higher up where it gets a little brushy but never too bad. Stopped at Horsethief Lookout. It’s closed for the pandemic but still offered good views of Lake Pleasant and the surrounding Bradshaws from the windy steps.

Worst part of the day was Coal Camp Spring Trail. One mile of trail from the LO to the road is lost to the forest. Needs to be regraded higher up and cleared the whole way through. Pretty good bushwack for about a mile from the LO to where it reaches the road that goes from Senator/Horsethief Lake to Coal Camp Spring/South Fort.

Road walk to Senator and then down to Horsethief Lake. Bad timing and I got there just as a few other folks pulled up. Had a walk around. Fun, short trail especially where it crosses along the dam. Then again, I’m a sucker for the small mountain lakes.

Three more miles of road walking to the southern Algonquin TH. Algonquin has been recently cleared the whole way and is a dream to follow. Big views as the trail descends. Good tread, no bushwacking. Was worried the whole hike about its condition, but it’s pretty much a highway the entire way now.

Got back down to the creeks and then back up. That final climb is never as bad as it seems. Mostly cloudy day, high 30s to low 50s. Didn’t see anyone besides a few trucks driving on Senator.
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First off - to the person or persons who have traveled this trail in the past few months- THANK YOU for cutting back the catclaw and manzanita ! What a difference. First Bradshaw hike I've done where I did not come out ripped to shreds!

We had 10 people. 3 dogs. Perfect day - 70s and breezy. I read the beta for this hike was not sure what to expect. We are all seasoned Grand Canyon hikers and have put on a lot of elevation gain per year. Trail conditions were good - some minor bushwhacking and route finding in the Horsethief creek - but overall pretty easy. We started off on Algonquin and made it all the way down into the creek bed very quickly, passing the mine and a couple of old buildings. Beautiful trail so far & the dogs loved the water! We then made our way to the intersection of Horsethief basin trail - we are about 2.5 miles in. This trail cuts in and takes off toward horsethief basin. There is a sign. This is where it gets real. Roughly 2000 feet of elevation gain in 2.5 miles. The beginning was gradual and that soon yielded to a steep rocky grade. Overall it was not bad - we plowed through that in short order and were on the snow-covered summit adjacent to the trail.

We made a quick fuel and pee stop, sat in awe of the view, threw a few snowballs with the dogs, and then reversed direction and headed back. Not surprisingly, the downhill was quick. We stopped at another waterfall for lunch, and then headed back through the creek, and. back toward Algonquin Tr. Once we connected with Algonquin Tr, the ascent started almost immediately. The ascent up was not bad, we were blessed by a nice breeze it kept us cool. Most of us wore long pants because we heard about the brush, but that was mostly gone. I was worried that I'd overheat but the breeze saved us. It was roughly 70 degrees with a 15 mph breeze.

If you are considering bringing your dog - our Aussie LOVED it - and had a blast but she is a highly experienced trail dog with lots of miles every week (i..e her paws can handle it). We had two other dogs with us that were not as experienced - another Aussie and a rescue rez dog Aussie mix. The too did great but the young Aussie was sore at the end of the hike. Use your best judgement - there is water - but the trail is rough and rocky in a lot of places. I would not take a dog on this hike if the temp went above 80. While the air may be 80, the ground is MUCH warmer in the sun and since a dog cools themselves through breathing and their paws they will overheat.

Overall this was an amazing hike and amazing day with dogs and friends. We stopped for some cold beer at the Cleator Bar & Yacht Club after and enjoyed a big crowd without the idiotic face diapers and people paranoid over dying from the flu. It was a great day to be in the Bradshaws !
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The Road
The approach road is very picturesque. The little hamlet of Cleator has a very cute bar, including a Hobie Cat out front with a sign saying "Cleator Yacht Club". I planned on stopping here on the way back and getting a coke. However, as I approached on the return trip, there were trucks and ORVs everywhere. The place must have been packed. Really strange for a bar out in the middle of nowhere.

The Trail
I arrived at the trailhead about 7:45. It is indeed straight down at the very beginning. I took my tools with me in case a little brushing was in order. Looking forward to an adventure. It was about 42 degrees as I headed out. Wearing long sleeves for the first time, I think.

Very quickly, there was a nice trail register, which looked like it is dedicated to HAZ. The trail register is quite informal, compared to other wilderness registers. I encountered the remains of snow along the trail. Hard to believe, but there is quite a bit in this area.

Arriving at the wilderness boundary, the trail flattens out a bit. You do need to pay attention to the trail that you don't get distracted by the water bars or other paths.

Once in the wilderness, I ran into more and more catclaw, which slowed me down. I brushed for the next 2 hours. At about 10:00 I stopped to take a break. By that point, I had only traveled 0.8 miles in almost 2.5 hours. But the trail is much cleaner up to that point. There was a particularly robust infestation of catclaw at 0.8 miles, which I cleaned up. I had to leave a 2" stump, because I did not have a saw.

I worked until almost 1 pm, then had enough. I was about 1.2 miles in, where I quit working. I headed down into the canyon for lunch, and to hunt for water.

I walked some distance on the trail after crossing the canyon. From there, looking down into the canyon, I could see some pools down in the bottom. and then came to the conclusion if I were going to go down the wash to the Big Dipper, the best way to get there was to go back to where the trail crosses the wash and head down the canyon. I came back to the low point, where the trail crosses the canyon, and could see pools everywhere!

I stopped at the head of the canyon to eat lunch.

Clearly walking down the streambed is the preferred way to travel here. At the confluence of the two canyons, there is a lot of water in pools. This is the area referred to as the Horsethief Canyon water location in HAZ. One could climb down at that point from the trail, but it is kind of brushy. Walking in the streambed was much more pleasant today.

The canyon just keeps getting more and more beautiful as one continues down. Today, there has been no danger of getting my feet wet. A little scrambling has been needed, but not bad. Staying to the south east side of the canyon when going over the little dry waterfalls seems usually to be the best plan.

At 2:13 PM, I arrived at what has to be the Big Dipper. If there were water flowing in this stream, there would be a huge waterfall at this point, pouring into the pool at the bottom of the Big Dipper. It is probably 50 feet or more to the bottom, and it looks like a Class 4 climb down for me. This is as far as I go.

At 2:15, half my water is gone, and it is time to start hustling back to the car. There is a campsite in the canyon. I missed it on the way in. It is about .3 miles back up the canyon from the Big Dipper.

There is quite a bit of trash to pick up: The remains of a shoe, a hat, a belt buckle were in the streambed. Additionally, I picked up a tank top and a plastic bottle, about 1/2 mile from the trailhead. More trash than I have seen lately on the trails.

At the end of the trip, just past the wilderness boundary, I was walking straight into the sun and diverted off on to the old trail. This misses the parking lot by a couple hundred yards. Pay attention!
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Plenty of water in the pool, if you can get down to it. There are many pools in the canyon above, including one at the head of the waterfall into the Big Dipper.

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Many pools along the canyon, including at the marked spot.
 
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This is for those that prefer to skid in broadside and totally worn out.

Algonquin Trail #225 has three personalities. Heading straight down from FR 259 ( Crown King Road ) the tread is good with occasional naggy pokies. From Poland Creek where most turn to the Big Dipper it is obvious a trail crew put in serious work. 2-6 foot wide freeway almost to Horsethief Canyon Trail #30.

So nice in fact that Bruce started slipping from reality. He spotted Mount Rushmore and plastic flowers.

By extremely lucky chance, we headed up Horsethief Canyon Trail #30. It's steep and pants keep blood loss to a minimum. 6 hrs sleep in two days and the leg warmer attire had me anxious for a pre five mile break. The eagle granted and I was charged back up.

Horsethief Canyon Trail #30
We've had trouble finding the east terminus/origin before and today was no different. Bruce figured it out and vowed to update the Official Route for future hikers. A third of this trail is a brush whack.

FR 52 - Senator Highway
This loop is possible by utilizing the dirt hwy just over 2 miles. Only 1 vehicle on our beat and we lunched 1.5 mile in. Witnessed and picked up some nice mica.

Turn the Record Over
Our return was Algonquin Trail #225 in full. Welcome to the third personality. 3.75 mi / 2,160 ft drop to Horsethief Creek. Not maintained is sugar coating the situation. Disaster. Fear the trail maintenance crew took one look and ran away screaming hell no.

Return of Sanity
We enjoyed the semi maintained #225 for 0.6 mile to the cabin. The super maintained portion spans from the cabin to Poland Creek. 0.22 miles before Poland near Mount Rushmore(gasp) Bruce continued while I changed into shorts. Then enjoyed a run on the maintained trail catching up just before the Poland crossing. We both found the 1.5 mi / 1k ascent to be easier than anticipated.

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Nobody loves the Bradshaws save me. This isn't helping. I look forward to the next hike. Hope the trail maintenance continues!
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We've done this loop a few times.

Starting at the northern Algonquin 225 TH, The trail drops 1,100' to Poland Creek. This was the first time crossing here, where we had to look for a place to cross to stay dry. Quite a decent flow here. The trail from here to the collapsing cabin / mining shack, is my favorite section. It's now a super highway after recent maintenance.

Maintenance and/or flagging stops at the Horsethief Canyon Trail. It's still relatively easy to follow except for a section 4.7 miles from the start as you start the last climb to the Recreation Trail. The water was flowing the strongest I've seen, the entire length of this trail.

We've had trouble finding the NE Recreation Trail TH in he past. After bushwhacking to the trail, I followed it back to where it met the Horsethief, to be able to update the official track. The Recreation Trail is still there, just tight in spots.

Based on the maintenance to the northern part of of the Algonquin Trail, we had high hopes for the Southern section that starts at the Senator and drops back to Horsethief Creek. No such luck. This trail has such possibilities with the views. Some of my notes.

11.80 miles - 2:29 pm
This trail is bullschmidt

12.36 miles - 3:04 pm
A lot more dead fall than the last time we came down here.
We cleared a bunch, but barely scratched the surface.

Back down to the creek (and manicured trail), all that was left was a peaceful hike along the creek again and the climb to the TH.
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Drove up with the thought of visiting the Big Dipper, but got side tracked with my war on Cat's Claw : rambo : About 2 years ago I had done some "pruning" on the first .5 miles of the trail. Today I got down to the first river crossing (almost), about 1.35 miles in. The first .5 miles still looked pretty good, though there are patches of "Cats" that are starting to "Claw" there way back on the trail. My thought was to touch this up on my way but by the time I turned back my hands were so sore and blistery that I didn't have the motivation to do the trimming that I had planned on. That being said, the trail down to the first river crossing (today it was a dry river bed crossing) is fairly clean. Encountered one family that had hiked down hoping to see some water. No luck :( Hope to return in the near future to enjoy some of the fruits of my labor...and maybe do some more trimming along the way.
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Nice little visit back to one of my favorite swimming holes!

The whole area is recovering quite nicely from the Gladiator Fire and is healthy as can be after the bounty of winter storms.
It's thriving so well that the trail is now becoming somewhat overgrown in many places, especially the lower sections, I sported shorts and a tank top and received quite a bit of catclaw exfoliation.

I had to make a quick stop at the old Algonquin mine to check out the leaning architecture this time around.
Horsethief Canyon is a gem right now, vibrant greenery, clear cascades and dynamic views make this a return visit destination just on its own, a Bradshaw backpacking trip may now be on my agenda before it gets too warm.
Has there even been any Hazzers that have backpacked in the Bradshaws lately?
I can't recall seeing anything but day hikes over the past couple years in this area which continues surprise me because of how beautiful and diverse I find this overlooked mountain range.

The weather, conditions and day could not have been any better!
I had the Big Dipper all to myself, cooled off in the pools and most importantly just enjoyed myself.
Just had one little quicksand scare in the pool directly donwstream from the falls, with one footstep the shallow sandy water I was walking on suddenly turned into a gut wrenching sinkhole that certainly gave me a scare considering I was out there solo like usual.

Other than that this was one of those rare perfect days where everything just went smooth as butter from start to finish.
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BLAST FROM THE PAST! Did this hike back in February. I had hiked from the Algonquin TH twice before and knew of some of the pleasures that awaited. Got to the TH a little after 6am excited about my upcoming hike. However, I was slightly annoyed because I did not have my handy dandy clippers...a necessity on some of these wilderness trails. My initial thought had been to do the Big Dipper, but I could hear the roar of the water from the TH so I hiked in with some reservation. About .5 miles into my descent I dropped my one and only water bottle puncturing the bottom :lone: there was still water in the bottle, but it was leaking badly. I stashed the bottle alongside the trail, figuring I would appreciate whatever was left on my return trip. This hike was not starting out well....first no clippers and now no water.

About a mile in I reached the first water crossing. As expected it was flowing "fast and furious". And this was only a tributary! By heading upstream a bit, I was able to cross without changing into my water shoes. I then followed the trail (and the tributary) about .5 miles east to where it merged with the primary stream -----. Wow! I seriously pondered trying to cross/and follow the river down stream, but the water was flowing fast and would have been above my knees in most spots. Since the Big Dipper is primarily a streambed/bank hike I thought it prudent to go with option #2. In a previous visit I had hiked a portion of the Algonquin, but never taken it to its end. So I hiked back up to the Algonquin Trail and followeid it for another 1.5 miles. This took me past the cabin (the hike in just for that is pretty cool, especially with an active stream in the background - and is very doable) and involved 2 river crossings. I utilized a down branch as a walking stick to test for depth and provide stability. At about 3 miles I reached a metal sign indicating a split in the trail. Last time I stayed with the river and followed Horsethief Canyon Trail. This time I turned west and started a climb through .5 miles of catsclaw. This was brutal! I was wearing shorts and I had no clippers : rambo : The trail was evident but there was no avoiding the catsclaw. After the catsclaw, the trail path cleared up quite a bit and started a steady climb for the next 1.5 miles. It was during this time that the sound of running water faded away and I started to encounter patches of snow. (I'm doing this from memory), I want to say it was between the 4.5 and 5.5 mile section that I lost the trail completely. At this time the elevation change was gradual enough and the foliage was sparse enough that there seemed to be plenty of options. I had to pull my garmin out a couple of times to get me back on track. At about the 5.5 mile mark I came to the next metal Algonquin trail sign. (This was the only trail marker I had seen since departing the river). After the trail sign the trail flattened out quite a bit and took up a southward bearing. I encountered numerous patches of snow some of which I sank into past my ankles. (So much for having a set of dry shoes and wet shoes....by the time I headed back down the trail to do the river crossings, my dry shoes were as wet as my water shoes). :lol: The cool thing about the snow was that it caused a lot more flowing streams - nothing major, but as I continued southward I counted 6 small streams that I had to cross. I'm sure that any other time of the year this would have been a dry gulch crossing. Also during this stretch came across some rusted metal railings and cement foundations from an old mining operation. I couldn't ascertain where the digging was occurring, but I. Sure that was the meaning of those remnants. The views during this section were very nice, especially to the east and north. I reached the end of the trail around the 7 mile mark. There appeared to be a weathered wooden sign in station (similar in design in what I saw at the beginning of my hike - only wooden), only there was no log to sign. I walk down to the road and turned around. The worst part of the return trip was going through the catsclaw again. There's nothing worse that having 3-hour old scratches being scratched again. The fjording of the rivers were actually a luxury as the coldness of the water numbed the scratches. It was a long haul back, especially since both of my shoes were wet from the snow/river crossings. I was very happy to reach the 13th mile because that was were I had left my broken water bottle and what was left of the my water. Made it back to the car a little after 4pm, having seen no one the entire hike and no wildlife worth mentioning either.
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This was my second jaunt into the big mountains and quite an interesting trail. Very nice to begin with as it is all downhill into the canyon. The rocks are absolutely beautiful- speckled with silver mica and the trail feels almost like a beach at the top-sandy with speckled rocks. We wore pants and were very glad that we did as the trail was pretty overgrown with lots of scratchies on either side. But the pants definitely helped mitigate that. There was a creepy abandoned cabin down by one of the springs near the bottom. That was pretty cool to explore. We followed the trail as far as we could but we couldn't go too far as it actually ended, burned down by a wildfire. We didn't want to keep pushing so we sat near a creek and had lunch and a break. We had probably gone down about 3-4 miles before the trail ended but didn't have a way to track mileage (didn't know about this site/app back then. Wish I had!). Kinda disappointed by the burned out trail but the hike was absolutely beautiful. Overall a pretty short hike, about 4 hours total, but totally worth it.
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Check out Bruce's triplog loaded with details!

Still love this loop. We last hiked the exact loop five years ago.

Wore pants on a whim. It would have been brutal without. There is a little catsclaw, not really the issue. The killer brush is shin height, more of a low lying gauntlet of swords. It jabs right through thin pants that ward off catsclaw.
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Big Dipper
Finally hit the Big Dipper for the first time. Easy to get there with only minor rock hopping. Kept dry easily.
Such a pretty area. The mSD Card in my phone self destructed, so I have no pictures. Hopefully Joe got some.
I can see why this place is popular. We got there early enough in the day that noone was there.

Horsethief Canyon Trail #30
This is a favorite of mine in the area. The creek has been flowing every time I've been there. This trail in the past has seen very little traffic, but it seems to be getting a bit more now.

Recreation Trail #201
I'd remembered this one as being hard to follow. The last time all we had to follow was a trace from the TOPO maps Those are notoriously inaccurate. This trail actually is not all that bad to follow, when you are on it... The track that I posted is spot on for all but the first 100 yards on the east end. I adjusted out our "exploration" and used RM/Satellite predict where it actually starts on the east. It may in fact start a little farther South than I show it.

Senator Highway #52
We had a 2 mile road walk on this to get to the Algonquin Trailhead.
Kind of a busy day with 4x4's, ORV's, and Motorcycles.

Algonquin Trail #225
The start of this one is all but impossible to find without a track. I'm sure the fire took out the old TH sign. This one needs some love. There are numerous downfalls across the trail. Joe and I put a dent it it by clearing the ones we could and adding some appropriate Cairns. There are some real nice views from this one. I saw a red headed wood pecker on this trail.... without a body. :o

Back down by Horsthief Creek we were mostly in the shade w/ a light breeze. Perfect.
4 or 5 other groups had signed in after us, but we saw no one the whole day.

Another very enjoyable day in the Castle Creek Wilderness!
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Such a beautiful little solo stroll to The Big Dipper for a day of cold beers and relaxation! :y: I'm still blown away how easy it to access such a nice place so close to the I-17. Along the switchbacks I could see snow at the top of the mountain which was a nice sight to see since I wanted a strong flowing waterfall, and the recent scaring of the Gladiator fire gave the whole area such a unique look. Anyway the only part I was somewhat not excited about was the "the wall to wall narrows" that everyone put in their hike descriptions. Well when it came to that portion I almost didn't even notice because I just simply walked right down the middle of it in soft mushy sand, the creek still running strong pitched to the right of the narrow instead of filling it like a pool. The Big Dipper itself was flowing like a champ and I took photos from a scenic rock vista and proceed to down scramble around to get some photos from the base which turned into nap on a perfect rock throne I found. The bottom pool was bigger than I've seen in most photos but what confused me is why the narrows section upstream was not completely filled with water. :-k I got in the water intentionally to test it out and although the hit temps outside the water was still almost too cold to even comfortable have your feet in. Before I left I proceeded to take final photos along the edge of the pool and then got to comfortable because the edge of the muddy brim gave way and I plunged waist deep into the pool. :sl: Luckily managed to knee my arms above my head with my phone clenched in hand, the dip in the pool was actually a good thing because the hike out was a hot one due to the lack of shade and beaming setting sun. All in all a fantastic day and can't wait to come back during the summer! :DANCE:
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Iiiiimmmmm back. Talk about your unplanned "hikes". (Refer back to my Horsethief Canyon hike about my old age and forgetfulness. It was in full force today)! I woke Sunday morning with the plan of hiking something close to home...but I couldn't find my Garmin. I spent an hour looking for that dumb thing with no luck. :( After doing three thorough searches of the house and my car I determined that I must have left my Garmin on top of my car when I left the Algonquin TH. ](*,) So back up to Algonquin I went. I got up there around 9am to discover an empty parking lot and no Garmin. Upon pacing the lot I determined there might be one place the Garmin might be...back at home.

Since I had driven all the way up here, I figured I might as well get a "hike" in and do some trail maintenance. Today I had brought my clippers! I thought I would trim down to the first crossing (1.35 miles in) but I didn't come close. Since I didn't have my Garmin I'm not sure how far I got, but I don't think it was much more than .5 miles. I might have been a tad aggressive in my trimming of the cat's claw, but it felt good to get some payback. This is a great entry point into the Bradshaws and It is a shame that these trails are not better maintained. Perhaps if these trails were more friendly to hikers, they might get more use. I'd be more than willing to hike and trim if anyone was interested in coming up for a weekend.

End of the story. When I got back home I checked the one spot I thought my Garmin might be. Yep! I found my Garmin inside one of my water shoes...which I had thrown away because they had gotten worn and uncomfortable. I had to dig my Garmin out of the dumpster. :oops: It sucks getting old!
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