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Del Shay Trail #41 - 8 members in 11 triplogs have rated this an average 2.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Del Shay Trail #41Payson, AZ
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Quick note that the driving directions in the [ Del Shay Trail #41 ] guide may be a little misleading if you just give them a quick glance or rely only on GPS. Using the "Drive" function in Route Scout, Google Maps will provide directions to start from 76 Ranch property. With the owners' permission, that may be a legal option (see Grasshopper's 2011 triplog and [ photo ] , but I don't know if the owners have that same policy 14 years later. (As recently as 2021, it appears that may still be the case [ photo ] .) It's also worth mentioning that the driving directions are written approaching from the north, coming from Gisela...most driving up the valley will probably approach from the south via 188/Jake's Corner, so the directions (rights vs. lefts and the sequencing) will be reversed.

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We started from the parking area near the corral off FR 1446 around 7AM and followed the powerlines SE toward Tonto Creek, crossing a little south of the 76 Ranch. Low water levels made for an easy, dry crossing on the rocks, and we picked up the "trail" on the far side--more of a faint, rocky road that followed a fence line as we gained elevation and had improving views of the Mazatzals on the western horizon. From there, the route flattens out through Alkali Canyon as the trail becomes more faint and follows a dry creek bed, then takes a right turn for another long climb before the descent to Gun Creek.

Scenery-wise, Gun Creek was the highlight of the hike, with sheer cliffs, some nice pools, greenery, and pleasant shade. That was one of the few sections on the hike with cairns and a more defined trail, but it didn't last long. Switchbacks climb up through a notch on the east side of the creek, then the trail drops down the other side and fades again through another stretch with steady elevation gain.

Gun Creek: [ youtube video ]

At our current pace, we weren't going to reach Del Shay Cabin by our turnaround time, and the faint trail started to become almost non-existent ~ six miles in. TBK cut me loose at that point and told me to go for the cabin (still ~2.8 miles away), while she waited. It was ~11:30AM; I told her I'd see how far I could get and turn around by 12:30PM, then it was off to the races. There was virtually no trail to follow, so I was checking Route Scout every 30-60 seconds and dodging brush while I tried to stay in the general vicinity of the route. There was finally some semblance of occasional trail closer to the east end, and I reached the cabin a few minutes after 12:30PM.

There are two large corrals nearby, and it's a pleasant area with plenty of trees and shade near the spring. The roof is missing on half the cabin and much of it is in rough shape, but it did have a small solar panel and strand of modern lights on the outside, along with an assortment of items (some bearing the 76 Ranch logo) and a bale of hay inside. The ancient refrigerator I'd seen in pictures from 10+ years ago was still there.

Del Shay Cabin: [ youtube video ]

After a few minutes at the cabin, I headed back into the brush to rejoin TBK at her waiting spot and moved faster, making up some time one the way out. I made it back at 1:25PM, thinking I was five minutes ahead of schedule. But we'd misunderstood each other when I left--TBK thought I said I'd be back at 12:30PM, not turning around at that time, so I was an hour later than she was expecting. She'd really started to wonder if something happened and was about to start searching for me...oops. But the hike out was uneventful, and we stopped for a late lunch in the shade near Gun Creek on the way back. We had clear skies and a high around 80° in the afternoon, so it was a comfortable day throughout, and we didn't see anyone all day. With no recent triplogs for Del Shay, I wasn't sure how overgrown the route would be, and I carried loppers all day but didn't do much lopping--the brush was rarely too dense and was usually avoidable.

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Del Shay is a longer hike than the guide and official route suggest. From our parking spot, we had ~0.75 miles of hiking to reach the western "trailhead" where the official route starts. And that route is just a Route Editor trace of the dashed #41 trail line on the HAZ topo, not a recorded track. It's fine for a rough guideline, but the actual trail, when there is one, often diverges from the GPS track, and the little zigs and zags add quite a bit of distance to the official route.

Based on a quick search, I could only find one other [ triplog ] (from @ssk44 in March 2008) where someone hiked the full length of Del Shay from the west side to the cabin as an out-and-back, and that one didn't have a route attached. Mine may be the only track currently posted on HAZ that covers the full length of the trail on foot, so if anyone decides to hike this (and I expect very few will :) ), I'd recommend using this route as a more accurate alternative to the official route on the guide page.
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Took a shot at Gun Creek. Boom, what a riot! The objective of the loop was a ~4 mile stretch of Gun Creek. Everything else was getting to and away from the show which included a near waist deep crossing of the Tonto. It'll be neck deep when I tell the story next year.

The creek was flowing more than imagined. The terrain had more vertical backdrops and steep grades to conquer too. The area is labeled Sierra Ancha on topo. I had it in my mind as the faded foothills at best. Heck it's twice as close to Mazzie Peak vs Aztec Peak.

We entered the show where FR 894 crosses Gun Creek. Within minutes we passed a five star campsite. Based on the primitive 4x4 road access it's probably used by ranchers, cowboys, hunters and explorers alike.

Our stroll down Gun Creek was a continuous obstacle course. We tried the stay dry theory for a half mile. We tried intimidating our surroundings with ultra high pitch singing, that didn't work either. The ice cold crossings were knee deep at worst. You'd warm up in minutes, just in time for another shock treatment. The near and far scenery really got my attention. There was a fair amount of small operation mining activity around 1899 from my pre-research. Several times I kept thinking about others out here in boots. They'd probably shake their heads at us in trail runners. Likewise I think I'd die out here in clunky boots.

Four miles on the obstacle course was plenty. Bruce volunteered to climb out of the situation. That spoke volumes as he rarely goes with that option late in a hike. It was steep but over quick and offered some nice views looking down.

Merged and returned on the Del Shay 41. Bruce pointed out a couple cairns he declared Hank built. I didn't think much of it at first. The more we hiked it became apparent the trail really doesn't exist. One of multiple HAZ'rs may indeed have contributed, luckily BobP hasn't scrolled the landscape... lol

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Gun Creek @ FR 894 Heavy flow Heavy flow
Flowing excellent, swift when it narrows down to six feet wide.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Tonto @ Rye Confluence Heavy flow Heavy flow
Flowing like a river. Not as fierce as my experiences crossing the Verde. Enough current to take a man down.
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Joe picked an area neither of us has been to before. Located East of Jakes Corner and South of Gisela, he put together a loop that let us explore Gun Creek.

First, if you go to this area to do this or the Del Shay trail, either call to get permission access or just park off FR1446 and follow the powerline to Tonto Creek. We parked up by the gate for the PP and skirted south, then east to bypass the property. Not a pleasant route.

The temps were in the high 20's on the way in. Not the ideal temps for a mandatory Tonto Creek crossing. Joe went first through the cold swift water, it was crotch deep for him. He made it with minor whining.

How to cross Tonto Creek :next: https://youtube.com ... ByeA

I went next, and it was waist deep for me. I was 1 step away from making the shore, when I hit a hole an fell flat on my face in the water. Luckily the sun was out by now and after taking my long shirt off it wasn't too bad as long as we kept moving.

We followed the Del Shay Trail for a bit before we went off trail and climbed to FR894 using trails created by our bovine friends. 6-1/2 miles in and we're finally to Gun Creek. It was flowing much stronger than we anticipated. This would mean instead of being able to just follow the 3.3 mile creek, we'd have numerous crossings and bypasses that would add more than a mile and take 4.5 hours to negotiate. What a pretty area though...

Gun Creek Video :next: https://youtube.com ... t=vd

At one bypass we finally just decided to keep going up and out of the creek. We hopped on the Del Shay to make our way back to Tonto Creek for an uneventful crossing back to the truck.

A long, tough, but enjoyable day...
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Gun Creek @ FR 894 Medium flow Medium flow
Plenty of cool clean water

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Rye Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Cool to cold, flowing strong

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Tonto @ Rye Confluence Medium flow Medium flow
Knee to waist deep, depending on your crossing choice.
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Del Shay Cabin via FR1938Payson, AZ
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Four years ago I came across information about a number of ancient ruin sites in the Del Shay Cabin area but without an appropriate vehicle I simply filed it away for some day. Well, I figured it was time for that 'some day' and began planning a trip. But with Tracey not yet ready to tackle a backpacking trip that meant I had to find some way other than the nearly 13 mile round-trip to Del Shay Cabin on Trail #41. While we could handle that distance in a day hike, it wouldn't leave us any time to wander around seeking out old ruin sites.

So, I came up with the brilliant idea of driving as far as we could on Forest Road 1938 followed by a short hike to the cabin area. However, knowing that what's on a map isn't necessarily what you find on the ground even with the help of satellite images so I drove out on my own last week to do the basic recon. If you read my Forest Road 1938/Skunk Tank Ridge triplog (http://hikearizona.com/trip=95501) you'll know what I found was quite different than expected and instead of a longer drive and very short hike along a Forest Road, it would mean a bush-whack down a slope with the potential for numerous cliff-outs. But at what looked about a 2.5 mile round-trip, I somehow managed to talk Tracey into camping on the ridge above Del Shay Basin along with a bush-whack down the slope. "Better 2.5 miles than 13!" I said.

While driving past our planned trailhead on FR1938 on the way to our campsite I really didn't like the idea of climbing through brush before even getting to the edge of the ridge because that would mean just that much more climbing on the return trip.

Plus, the terrain was much thicker than expected. So we kept driving all the way to our campsite, which was where I found two tall rock cairns the week before. Taking barely 15 minutes to put p the tent and load up our packs we set off along a line drawn from the cairns on what appeared to have been a trail maybe some 25-30 years ago and not far away we came across another cairn. So far so good, and with such heavy deer and elk traffic, if we hit a dead-end all we had to do is back up a little and choose another route around whatever obstacle we encountered. But that wouldn't last forever and eventually all semblance of a trail died away. Then it was just a matter of continuing in the straightest line toward the Del Shay Cabin.

However, with the GPS acting a little whacky (like on Skunk Tank Ridge last week) we ended up somewhat farther south than expected and followed a drainage to a cliff and were forced to turn right and bypass it. Not much farther down the slope we encountered an even taller cliff and once again had to bypass to the north. But we learned from this so on the return trip we knew what to avoid.

Off and on we would pass through some thick brush and steep loose slopes but it wasn't treacherous by any means and eventually we broke out into clear grassy areas. With tall 9" boots I loved it but Tracey with her Merrell Ventilators, well, they were quite ventilated, allowing the fox-tails to pass right on through and she was not a happy camper or a happy hiker! :x
(Please, let's not take off on that tangent) [-X [-(

Finally we connected with the old Forest Road 894, but with loose baby-head size rocks it was more hazardous to walk on it than everything else we had encountered combined. But moments later we're at Del Shay Cabin and there's plenty to explore. But with ruins foremost on our minds we didn't dally and set off northward along Trail #41. Just under a mile we branched off and climbed in the direction of the first rumored ruin site. About a hundred yards before my ruin waypoint eagle-eye Tracey found the first potsherds, one of them quite detailed with a black-on-white design. Scanning the area we looked uphill from there to the most logical place they would have been washed down from. And what do you know... right at the waypoint I had marked we found traces of rock circles. No other evidence so it was time to head for my 2nd ruin waypoint.

A half-mile farther we reached the second waypoint and found nothing but a large flat mesa with no distinctive high point. With absolutely no trace of any rock circles or walls we set off for the third of 5 waypoints. I never expected to reach all five in one day and with time passing, if we kept a good pace over the now relatively open terrain for the mile to #3 that would be our turn-around point for today. With a number of concentric faded rock circles it was slightly more obvious than ruin site #1. But unfortunately, even after both of us made several loops around the area there were no relics to be found. Oh well, time to head back the by-now 4 miles and 1,200' feet of climbing back to our campsite.

A quick stop at Del Shay Cabin for a short PB&J sandwich break and we were heading back uphill. Although we were climbing, it didn't seem that rough and of course we knew the areas to avoid. By taking a straighter route we cut off almost a quarter-mile and the distance from the cabin to our campsite was about a mile. By combining the best the tracks down and back up the round-trip will be right at 2 miles.

We saw a number of deer but either they were too fast or we were too slow so no photos. While we did not encounter any bears, we did see plenty of evidence with some huge piles of scat. Two of which were so soft and moist they had to be quite fresh... between Tracey and I we must have photographed a dozen or more.

I posted 40 photos on HAZ. The full set of 88 photos is here:
http://changephoenix.com/jpserver/web/public/album.php?id=634
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For an upcoming car camping/backpacking trip to the Del Shay Cabin area I researched approaches from north and south. It appeared I could get much closer driving along Forest Road 1938 from Juniper Mountain so that's what I decided to check out.

The first part wasn't bad but the farther I drove the more the vegetation closed in and soon it was just over ATV-width, which just meant the Cherokee was picking up some serious AZ pin-scraping.

After just five of the expected eight miles the road ended abruptly at a barbed wire fence. Back-tracking a few hundred feet I found a few possible routes, but nothing longer than 50' so I figured it was time to get out and seek it out on foot. I set off with my lopper with hopes of locating a segment of road very close then clearing just enough for a path to drive through. Good thing I packed my CamelBak with everything for a day of hiking because I would need it.

Now the 2012 Forest Service map shows FR1938 making a 3 mile arc from that point until it meets FR894, AND the current Tonto Forest Roads list states it is open and managed for high-clearance vehicles, but for more than two miles it simply does not exist. Based on the vegetation growth where I could locate bits and pieces of it I'd say it hadn't been driven in anywhere from 25 to 50 years. So much for up-to-date FS maps. :(

Well, no matter, by time I had gone a half-mile I figured it was not going to be found in any useable form and I set in for the long-haul around the arc. I had thoughts of cutting the corner but I didn't like what I saw there. Plus, being close to Skunk Tank Ridge, a 300' prominence peak, I might as well bag it while I'm passing by.

On two occasions, about a mile apart in the thickest vegetation I scared up an elk. The first one was so big, my first thought was that it was a moose. (Having been up close and personal with moose in Minnesota, Colorado and Alaska I do know what they look like) Unfortunately in both cases even if I had my camera in my hand and turned on all I would have got was a glimpse through the brush. Wow! The noise one made blasting through some dead manzanita... it sounded like a monster truck crushing everything in its path.

After just over 2 miles on foot following the GPS track of old FR1938 I came upon an unused section of road. It didn't make sense to begin with but once I followed it for a while I realized it was the other end of FR1938. Although now I wasn't fighting through brush, walking along the loose roughly-square rocks was no picnic.
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Once Skunk Tank Ridge was at a 90 degree angle to the road, I set off for the summit. This was one occasion when the GPS (and possibly compass) may not be much help. For whatever reason (magnetic anomaly?) the compass points were so erratic it seemed north was in every direction. With enough trees so close no landmark far enough away to use for orienteering so relied on just going a certain distance then looking at my progress along my planned GPS route. (I've run into this issue only once in the past, about 7 years ago in the San Tan Mountains) Looking at my track later it looked like I was drunk...
Must have been the batteries I fed the GPS?? :whistle:

Eventually I did reach the summit, but I didn't bother with a 360 photo pan or video because all around were simply Juniper trees. I headed to the north in hopes of getting a break in the trees for a view toward Sheep Basin Mountain. There wasn't much to choose from so the first opening I came to I stopped for lunch and a few photos of Sheep Basin Mountain.

I had set a waypoint when I left FR1938 to climb Skunk Tank Ridge, which proved to be fortuitous as once I was just a short distance from the summit, the GPS settled down and I made almost a perfect beeline back to the road. Weird that it was so wild heading north but fine heading south. Oh well, it's probably just another one of those Bermuda Triangle things. :roll:

Back on the road there were still parts where it faded out so I had to stay attentive. Eventually I reached the tee with FR894, which heads down to Del Shay Cabin less than a mile away. Although I was that close to the cabin I did not hike down to it. My intent now was to find a shorter route than what I had just hiked.

Heading back up FR1938 when I reached the most open area I turned south to basically close the loop going along the ridge back toward the car. Finding bit s and pieces of open area I had my hopes of finding a trail of some kind, but NO... once I hit the saddle it was just a bunch of dense vegetation including two of my least favorites... cat's-claw & manzanita!
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Thankfully at the last moment before leaving the car I put on my soft-leather chaps, which didn't help with the manzanita but allowed me to walk through the cat's-claw with relative impunity. It helped I was also wearing an almost canvas-weight shirt.

Within a quarter mile of the Cherokee the vegetation closed in so tight I had to constantly back-track to get out of literal dead-ends. Back to the Jeep I had to figure out how to back up far enough to turn around... kind of fun when you can't use the side mirrors (folded in so they would fit between trees) and a spare tire blocking the rear-view mirror. I made it, albeit at the cost of the right front fender flare/mudguard. I couldn't take it completely off without a lot of work so I used bungee cords to hold in place for the drive home. I removed both sides when I got home so now the front tires look like they stick out farther than they actually do... looks a bit more intimidating now. [-X

Since I was in the area, I decided to see if I could find the missing link in FR416B that we had to backtrack miles on two days ago. Just under 2 miles I found it stopped at a creek where it must have been washed out years ago as I found no trace up the other side. I did get within .5 mile of our turn-around point on Sunday but had no time to check it out on foot. Next time...

I did manage to cause another casualty along FR416B. There were 4 spots where trees had fallen on the road and ATV's had been driving around them. In two spots they went some distance winding a long path before returning to the road, so I thought I'd be nice and removed them. The first three large trees I dragged out of the way went fine, dragging them with a strap in reverse, but when I backed up to get the last one (because I wanted to drag it farther to block off the side-track) I couldn't see how close I was and BANG, a big branch of the tree punched through the left tail light.
:tt:
So much for being a nice guy... [-(

The dealer wants $122 for the tail light assembly but I ordered a cheaper (probably Chinese knockoff) one for $42 from Amazon. Actually it's the same brand as the local parts stores sell for $79 so I think it will work fine.

So... some things expected, some not expected, and some really not expected, but I now have a couple places to camp as well as possibly a one-mile hike to the Del Shay Cabin area. That will give us more time to seek out five rumored ruin sites within a mile-and-a-half radius.

I posted 30 photos here on HAZ, the full set of 48 are here:
http://changephoenix.com/jpserver/web/public/album.php?id=630

Although I had video running for the 5 mile drive on FR1938 and caught a herd of a half-dozen deer crossing in front of me, the road was so rough it wasn't watchable.
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Great day in the wild country with Hank. A special thanks to the Neals, two very progressive and hospitable ranchers. They really are going the extra mile to accommodate hikers, hunters and over 500! ATV users per year. We have to commend them and do all we can to reciprocate in maintaining the good relations.
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Full of colorful history, this obscure and less traveled ~6.75ml one way trail starting from across flowing Tonto Creek east of Hwy 188N on the private property 76 Ranch (at 2700ft) and ending in the remote Sierra Ancha Mtns at the "Del Shay Cabin" (at 4820ft) has been on my radar and in my HAZ wish list for a few years. I could never seem to find the right time to schedule it.

Shawn and I had originally planned to hike the Bull Springs TR34 to try and locate the historic Bull Spring Cabin, but hiking in and back from the Baby Doll TH west of Payson to and from would have been a 20 mile hike from this Baby Doll TH locked gate. We had hoped to cut it down to a ~14ml R/T by obtaining gate access permission from the ranch property owners, but no way.

Having such unseasonable pleasant hiking conditions this week we both knew we wanted to be hiking somewhere this day. For a backup plan we both reviewed our HAZ wish lists and for me this Del Shay TR41 was like a neon sign going off and on and with Shawn also interested, I again reviewed Preston's hike description, posted triplogs, discussed logistical details of this trail with some who had previously hiked it, and then used our HAZ TrailDEX Map-"Route Mgr" to draw and load a GPS track with key waypoints which were needed for later route finding. I knew that we had little chance of completing this entire ~13.5ml R/T hike this first trip, so we agreed that the perennial-riparian Gun Creek Canyon trail crossing area would be a perfect lunchtime ending destination and it certainly was!

From the Phoenix area, if you desire to enter this hiking area via the more popular way through the private property 76 Ranch vs the present hike description driving directions and entry point, then the most difficult part of this hike is--> GETTING STARTED :? Hopefully with my now posted GPS Driving Track w/info notes, GPS Hiking Track w/info notes, and geocoded picset with info captions and tagged notes, your first time drive and hiking trip to this area will now be much less confusing starting off and on trail than it was for us.

It is unfortunate that this historic, remote, and scenic trail does not see more hiking activity. Hopefully, now it will.

Note: Driving across Tonto Creek during our seasonal spring snow melt/heavy runoff period is not recommended. Crossing Tonto Creek requires a high-clearance 4WD vehicle and after crossing parking is at a premium off unsigned 4WD FR894(1-2 vehicles only.. http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=193300 )
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Out and back to Gun Creek. The rock formation at the Tonto Creek crossing is really interesting.
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I did this trail in March 2008. This was my first time on this trail. The way that I accessed this trail is a 4x4 road that goes through the Seventy Six Ranch. There is a good parking area on the hill above the ranch and a sign-in book before you enter the property. I really loved this hike. My favorite hikes are ones that are really remote and rugged. The Del Shay Trail is about as remote and rugged as they come. This is a very special area with a lot of history. The vertical feet is only 2,100 however the total in & out climbing feet is around 4,100 if you go all the way to the cabin at the top. TR41 is a brutal hike. I did this trail as a long day hike and took roughly 11 hours to complete due to slow route finding. I could probably cut one hour from that now that I have been there and know the way. This hike would make a great overnight backpack trip. There is a lot of water along this trail. Water can be found at Gun Creek and the upper basin below the cabin. The spring at the Del Shay cabin is very strong and runs above ground most of the way down the upper basin. If you like solitude and rugged terrain I would definitely recomend this trail.


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Del Shay Trail #41Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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PrestonSandsTriplogs 2,097
Hiking11.50 Miles 2,000 AEG
Hiking11.50 Miles   9 Hrs   10 Mns   1.25 mph
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I think I was the first person in at least several years to hike this trail. Saw lots of bear poop on the hike.
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Feb 19 2006
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Del Shay Trail #41Payson, AZ
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PrestonSandsTriplogs 2,097
Hiking2.75 Miles 2,000 AEG
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My first time trying to hike the Del Shay Trail. I ran out of time trying to figure out a way around the ranch, so I ended up exploring the mesa next to Tonto Creek. Found some old collapsed ruins, and cool views of Tonto Creek below.
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