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Aug 24 2025
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47 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Aspen Corner Alpha Fia, AZ 
Aspen Corner Alpha Fia, AZ
 
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This is accessible from Aspen Corner parking area about a mile from Snowbowl Ski Lodge. Pond water was mostly clear and easily filtered. Temps at 12:30 68 degrees, cloudy, some rain.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Alfa Fia Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
Mostly clear, filterable.
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Aug 24 2025
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Polar Aspen Alley - aka Aspen CornerFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking5.40 Miles 1,700 AEG
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1,700 ft AEG
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Re-post to correct location
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Aug 18 2025
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 Phoenix, AZ
Barnhardt Trail #43Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking5.90 Miles 2,055 AEG
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2,055 ft AEG
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Started the hike at 8 AM. My plan was to take it easy and mainly stay in the lower canyon under tree cover and it worked well. Explored areas off trail and along Barnhardt Creek that I often overlook. There was water in places but large sections of the creek were dry. Where there is water in the creek it is barely a trickle and many trees up high, above the creek are stressed. Need more rain. Nearly got sprayed by a skunk though I never saw it and something large was nearby a couple of times but not able to see it, possibly javelina. Temps only got to around 95 by late afternoon around 4500 ft level with low humidity and with plenty of tree cover, light breezes and some clouds some of the time it was pleasant and a great day out of the furnace.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Garden Seep Dripping Dripping
Dripping near the makeshift spring box with the ferns growing out of it right next to the trail slightly west of the larger seep.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Garden Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Light flow. Possibly 2 to 4 quarts per minute.
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May 26 2025
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 Phoenix, AZ
Diamond Mountain 5120 - Tonto NFPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking3.00 Miles 1,191 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   5 Hrs      1.00 mph
1,191 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break10 LBS Pack
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Camped near the trail parking area overnight. Started hiking at 5:20 AM and 56 degrees.
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Here and there. Lots of thistle.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max O'Neil Spring Dripping Dripping
Trickling out of the spring box
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May 05 2025
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47 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
S Fork Hardt Creek Mazatzals, AZ 
S Fork Hardt Creek Mazatzals, AZ
 
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking4.50 Miles 900 AEG
Hiking4.50 Miles   5 Hrs      1.00 mph
900 ft AEG      30 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
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I have wanted to hike this mountain, canyon since I was a little kid. Started hiking at 4:45 AM. A little dark, stars partially blocked by clouds, ground was wet with recent rain and more storms threatening. I never thought a couple weeks ago when planning this hike that I would be starting the hike in the upper 40s at 3300 ft. but better than too hot. Nice healthy Arizona Conifers growing near the 4000 ft level. Found some foundations of possible long lost structures. There is oddly a trail in sections. Overshot the spring and hiked back down thru almost impenetrable brush making about 3 feet per minute. Somehow in the thick of it all there was freshish bear scat. Grabbed my bear spray and then realized the bigger threat was spraying myself while crashing through the brush. Finally broke through at the canyon bottom and found a welcome forest section with nice tree canopy and a dripping spring that is not marked on any map, not unusual for the Mazatzals.
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Apr 11 2025
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 Phoenix, AZ
Gold Ridge Trail #47Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking10.00 Miles 2,820 AEG
Hiking10.00 Miles   12 Hrs      1.25 mph
2,820 ft AEG   4 Hrs    Break15 LBS Pack
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As much as I love this trail I have to say it may be the most difficult trail in the Mazatzals due to, in my estimate a 45 to 50 degree slope in spots where it is more of a scramble with at least 3 points of contact used for safe climb. Although the trees are gone in some of the lower sections it is very green due to the variety of mtn shrubs including manzanita, service berry and unkown species that are tall enough to provide some shade however there is about a mile section around 5000 ft mtn tops with little to no shade. The hike would have been even nicer except for the Maple and Gambel Oak not yet leafed out. Temps were around 80 but breezy in the hottest part of the day during my siesta. (103 degrees in Phx) I waited, napped out the worst of the sun from 1230 to 330 and it did help. The upper section (5000+) appears to be an old mine road and is much easier to traverse than the lower section that must have been built by mountain goats. Green grass in sections. Carried 1.5 gallons of water and was the 1st time in a long time I had plenty. Strapped the gallon of water to my walking stick and carried it as a bindle, easier than in my pack. Saw coyotes, gila monster, dragon fly, quail, blue birds, crows, and rabbits. Possible elk tracks. No other hikers on the trail or at the trailhead. No recent bear or lion sign.
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Mar 14 2025
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47 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Payson Area Between Storms, AZ 
Payson Area Between Storms, AZ
 
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2 to 3 inches of snow in Payson. Temps in mid 30s most of the day. Significantly more snow at higher elevations. Sycamore Creek near Sunflower light flow, moderate flow at lower elevation crossing. Camp Creek and Pine Creek moderate flow. Rye Creek light flow. E Verde River light to moderate flow.
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Sep 13 2024
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 Phoenix, AZ
Little Saddle Mountain Trail #244Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking4.50 Miles 600 AEG
Hiking4.50 Miles   5 Hrs      1.20 mph
600 ft AEG   1 Hour   15 Mns Break
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Camped overnight above the trail parking. Upper 60's overnight on the ridge above the valley. It was surprisingly almost 20 degrees colder in the low valley areas. Thermometer read 51 degrees at the start of the trail. Hiked up to the power line service road and then north on the AZ trail to begin the hike. Area was a little dryer than I expected but there is still water available in the creek at spots. Saw bear scat and paw prints near the creek. Creek was flowing about a gallon per minute, more in some spots.
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Jul 12 2024
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 Phoenix, AZ
Y Bar Trail #44Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking6.50 Miles 2,994 AEG
Hiking6.50 Miles   20 Hrs      0.81 mph
2,994 ft AEG   12 Hrs    Break25 LBS Pack
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Arrived at the trailhead in late afternoon and mid 90s but it rained briefly shortly after arriving dropping the temperature about 5 degrees. Smell of Pinyon, juniper woodland was great. The sun was mostly behind the peak by the time I started. I cowboy camped about 2 miles in, had heavy rain for about 20 mins about midnight and overnight temps dropped into the mid 60s. Used an emergency shelter to stay dry. I was treated with a near and far lightning show all night Smelled great after the rain. Heard foxes calling nearby overnight. I saw 2 of the weirdest bugs ever, they had body color and texture of a spider but shape of a 2 inch cockroach and very fast. The next morning continued to Y bar saddle and then Y bar spring. Tree cover is good after about 3 miles in. Found a skunk next to the trail, unsure what to do a made some tapping noise but he didn't notice then when walking quietly closer he saw me and froze and just then I heard more noise to my right a saw a second skunk on the other side of the trail. I hastily continued on without incident. Bear sign was also noticed in more than one location. I was hoping for a little water at Y Bar Spring but it was dry. I couldn't find the start of the trail down to Y Bar Tanks, I think it is now covered with brush clippings and there is no signage. I could have made my way with or without the trail but being low on water I couldn't risk not finding water so I turned and headed back without a status report on Y Bar Tanks, too bad as they sound reliable at the tanks and further downstream according to other reports. The hike back was uneventful. The sun was intense when not under tree cover. Air temp was in the upper 80s higher up but upper 90s near the trailhead. The forecast promised moisture, clouds but the day was very dry compared to the day before.
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dry Y Bar Spring Dry Dry
Hiked up to what looked like the source but no water, ground was dry as well.
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Jul 05 2024
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 Phoenix, AZ
Pivot Rock CanyonPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking3.10 Miles 475 AEG
Hiking3.10 Miles
475 ft AEG
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High temps in the mid 80s. Upper 50s overnight. The area is green from recent rains. Not too crowded esp. for a holiday weekend.
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Jun 28 2024
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 Phoenix, AZ
Sunrise Peak - White MtnsAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Hiking2.50 Miles 1,370 AEG
Hiking2.50 Miles   2 Hrs      1.50 mph
1,370 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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Temps around 70 degrees near the summit and low to mid 70s at the base all day, light rain appeared to be moving in as we left. Upper 50s overnight at our base camp in Pinetop. The area is very green and it appears the summer rains have started early. We rode the tram to the top and hiked backed down. Lots of butterflies. Anther hiker said they saw a fawn nearby but we were unable to spot it. I would guess the trail mileage was about 2.5 miles from summit to base but we didn't always stay on the main trail so hard to say for sure. Pleasant day far away from Phurnace.
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May 27 2024
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47 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Diamond Mountain 5120 - Tonto NFPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking1.52 Miles 1,191 AEG
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Camped overnight near the trail start. Nice and cool overnight, 55 degrees with a 5 to 10 MPH breeze made me bundle up just a little. The area burned again last July 2023 (mostly due to back burns on the advancing fire coming in from the west) The area around the springs was spared due to slurry drops around the area. I question how bad the area would have actually burned without the intentionally set backburn since it just burned about 10 years prior but that's all water under the bridge. High temps in the mid to upper 80s by afternoon vs 103 in Phx. Lots of foxtails growing back after the fire but the nicer smaller grass like plants seem to be coming back. Water trickling from multiple springs in the area. Lots of birds, heard an owl overnight. Possible bear, lion and/or coyote sign.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max O'Neil Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Hard to determine flow exactly due to the multiple areas seeping water. If you could funnel it all to one spot you could possible gather about a quart per minute give or take. Spring box is overflowing.
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Apr 22 2024
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 Phoenix, AZ
Little Saddle Mountain Trail #244Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking3.85 Miles 1,433 AEG
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This trip was more camping than hiking but made it a little ways up the trail + a little off trail exploring. Plenty of water in the streams and lots of green grass. Overnight lows in the upper 40s to low 50s, 82 degrees when I left at 1:30. Car said 100 degrees when I got back to Phx.
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Apr 01 2024
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47 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mazatzal Country, AZ 
Mazatzal Country, AZ
 
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Upper 30's to low 40s all day. Rained most of the day. Creeks, rivers, waterfalls in every crevice. Snow starting around 5700 ft level.
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Mar 31 2024
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Ma Ha Tuak TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking1.20 Miles 450 AEG
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Found small water hole and watched quail and squirrel find water and coyote find quail and then me. Good times.
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Feb 09 2024
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Mazatzal Slate Creek Divide SR87, AZ 
Mazatzal Slate Creek Divide SR87, AZ
 
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Drove up early Friday morning. Arrived at the pass to 26 degrees and breezy. Hwy had medium to large ice patches. Light snow at 3500 ft and increased over 4000 ft to 3 inches snow at 4500 ft. with more snow to follow the next morning. Melted snow to check water content. Found 5 inches of snow melted to 1 inch of water in my just for fun unscientific experiment. Walked briefly into the nothingness but too cold to go far. Fog rolled in as the morning progressed.
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Jan 22 2024
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Piestewa Circumference - Freedom Trail #302Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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 Hiking3.60 Miles 1,205 AEG
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Arrived to the parking area around 6:40 AM. Listened to the radio until about 7 when it was light enough to see. 51 degrees and slight breeze, heavy morning dew, leftover rain dampness. Heard owls and hawks. Saw a bunch of quail.
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Jan 08 2024
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Sunflower, AZ 
Sunflower, AZ
 
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Drove up before sunrise to check out the snow. Wanted to drive down to Sycamore Creek but road was a solid sheet of ice and snow and wasn't worth the risk. 16 degrees with a slight breeze at the mtn pass with 3 inches powder. I was surprised at some people's speed over the pass, hwy was icy. Saw 2 cars slid off the road just below the pass.
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Dec 04 2023
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 Phoenix, AZ
Ranger Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
Hiking2.50 Miles 500 AEG
Hiking2.50 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   2.50 mph
500 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
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Chilly start at 7:15 AM and 46 degrees but stayed warm bundled up including gloves. Tried hiking with no gloves but uncomfortably cold on my hands. A few Creosotes just starting to green up as well as some winter green grass starting to show in sheltered spots after the light November, December rain about 0.5 inch Nov/Dec rain so far. Passed only 1 other hiker this morning. Nice crisp fresh desert air. Warmed up once the sun was up although the north slope stays shaded most of the day this time of year. Saw a few dove and other birds. Saw several coyotes driving around the area the night before.
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Sep 25 2023
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Y Bar Trail #44Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking1.50 Miles 700 AEG
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700 ft AEG15 LBS Pack
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I planned to hike in about 4 miles to the saddle and back but heavy smoke from the Valentine Fire east of Payson made if feel hard to breathe on the uphill and sucked the fun out of it so I abandoned the idea after only about 1.5 miles. I could see relatively thick smoke overnight in the beam of my flashlight. Overnight low along the ground where I cowboy camped was 51 degrees. Surprisingly at 5 feet above the ground (official height) it was 10 degrees warmer.
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