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Mar 22 2022
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 Triplogs 4

58 male
 Joined Feb 21 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Davenport Wash Trail #89Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 22 2022
egreenTriplogs 4
Hiking16.70 Miles 5,499 AEG
Hiking16.70 Miles
5,499 ft AEG
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Bad news for Mazatzal die-hards. Upper Davenport is not passable between S. Deadman and Red Rock Spring. Left one truck at Peeley and started our hike at Barnhart. The plan was to connect Barnhart to Davenport to Sheep Creek to Peeley. Like many other attempts in the inner Mazatzals, it didn't work out as planned. Headed down from Chilson. There were plenty of cairns and the trail was reasonably easy to follow without GPS. We did lose the trail a little at the bottom of S. Deadman but had no trouble getting down and finding the trail back up. We climbed the other side and continued up to the next set of ridges. Surprisingly, the trail was still easy to follow. We were looking forward to topping the ridge so we could start down to Club, and then we hit a massive wall of brush. It was weird because the trail was really nice in that section and then, boom, dead end. We were already exhausted so we found the nearest spot flat enough to throw down sleeping bags right there at the end of the trail. Next morning we tried to bust through but the brush was like a maze and we were disoriented. It looks like the brush continued on for another 1/4 mile before topping out so we had to bail. I would say this section of trail is dead unless somebody brings a lot of tools and manpower. It's a real shame though because we were really enjoying the rest of the trail, difficult as it was. We back-tracked to the Divide trail and hiked to Peeley the civilized way.
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Apr 25 2015
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58 male
 Joined Feb 21 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Fish Creek Canyon - Bridge to Roger's CanyonGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 25 2015
egreenTriplogs 4
Hiking18.40 Miles
Hiking18.40 Miles   13 Hrs      1.42 mph
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I drove to the upper Totilla Trailhead. The major obstacle on the road has been worked on. The deep holes have been filled with rocks and concrete. It also looks like some of the rocks may have been chiseled but that could just repeated trailer hitch, bumper, rocker panel etc. I didn't get as much of the usual adrenaline from driving in but you never feel like your done with a hike until you get back down to the lower trailhead.

We got an early start shortly after 7am headed up JF trail. This is my first time on this trail. The first 4 miles of the trail steadily climbs along the high ridges eventually providing better and better views. This part of the trail is kind of uninteresting to me but the route was efficient. I seemed to enjoy the later brushier section on the last mile or two before Tortilla pass. In Angel basin we spotted several places with litter, especially toilet paper. Is it that hard to bury it? Further down Frog Tanks there was a huge pile of horseman's trash including an ice chest lid. We found the rest of the ice chest about 3 miles downstream in Fish Creek with bear damage. We saw some huge bear droppings both in the canyon and on JF trail.
I have a newly acquired GPS that and I don't know how reliable the distance/elevation is. I checked my GPS at the pass and it said 6.5 miles. According to Bruce Grubbs' Backpacking Arizona guide book, it was supposed to be 5.2 miles. By the time we made it to the end of Frog Tanks trail my GPS said 10.4 miles but the guidebook said it should have been 8.4. When the trip was over my GPS said 18.4 miles, the guidebook said 13.7. I don't know which is right, if either.
My son twisted his ankle on Frog Tanks trail re-aggravating the ankle from last week's Mazatzal Peak trip. I was starting to think this was going to be more difficult than I planned for and I started getting concerned about entering the canyon. We figured we were closer to the truck and who wants to turn around anyway.
Rock hopping in the canyon took it's toll and my son's ankle kept giving out. Even though we had about 7 hours of daylight left when we entered the canyon, I was worried about the prospect of an unplanned night in the canyon because I knew that with no moon and storms in the forecast we had better not get caught down there.
The route down Fish Creek was not as difficult as I had expected. The wash is wide and the low water level made it reasonably easy to travel.
It didn't take long to get to the pool with no sane way around it. We didn't even consider going around. I wrapped my pack in a garbage bag and swam through. The water was a bit swampy but not as bad as further down the canyon. Some of the puddles further down smelled bad and were borderline disgusting. There were only three occasions where I had to get hip-deep in the water. We ended up trudging through the puddles if they had a gravel bottom but avoiding the rocks in the water because they were as slick as ice. That's not good with a sprained ankle.
We were making poor time in our progress and I knew we better keep going and there was no time to rest a sore ankle. It started raining and it was strike two because the rocks that had the dried out slime coating turned out to be just as slick as the ones at the bottom of the pools we avoided. It seemed to be just enough rain to keep the rocks wet but not a downpour by any means.
We were quickly squandering all those hours of daylight we woke up early for but when we finally broke around the corner of Lost Dutch Canyon there was enough light to get a visual glimpse of our route out of the canyon. I was pleasantly surprised to see there was a dim but marked trail and there was hope for us but it was getting dark, really dark. Headlamps on we left the canyon and followed the trail as long as we could and next thing you know we are in pitch dark in the Superstitions with no trail. It's time for a crash course on GPS navigation. I figured out enough to get us back to the JF trail but that new-fangled contraption is so complicated. I hate it but I love it because I got to go home that night.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Not as much as expected. Occasional flowers, cactus blooms and Palo Verde.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Hole Spring Dripping Dripping
Sizeable pool at the spring area but no flow.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Rogers Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Isolated pools. No trickle.
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Apr 20 2015
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 Triplogs 4

58 male
 Joined Feb 21 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Mazatzal Peak SummitPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 20 2015
egreenTriplogs 4
Hiking13.20 Miles 4,157 AEG
Hiking13.20 Miles   11 Hrs      1.20 mph
4,157 ft AEG
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My sons and I hit the trail at 7:30 and saw nobody along the route all day. We went up Barnhardt to the last wash before the divide at about mile 5. We took aim at a pair of lone pine trees on the ridgeline that we called twin pines and climbed to the top of that ridge.
This is a route I took about 17 years ago. The fire of 04 broke my heart but it sure made it easy to reach the summit. OK, easy may not be the right word. I remembered that ridge as a tangled mess that left me with no choice at times but to crash through large branches. It was so bad I tried to return via the wash and ran into a waterfall that force me to extreme bush-whack to get around. I really wanted to avoid that wash this time. Anyway enough of the 17 yr old triplog. That's a whole other story.
The tangled mess on that ridge has been replaced with a network of faint game trails. It's still a bush-whack but not too bad. It got a little easier when we reached the ridge and we just followed it past the false summit to the top.
We took some time to read the summit posts. Pretty cool. Lots of HAZ. We signed the bottom of the very last page so if someone is thinking ahead they could bring an extra note pad with them. The last log entry from about a week and a half ago was Fife Symington. Wouldn't that be the Governor?
We took a lot of breaks all day including a second break at the falls. I kept hearing funny noises and I finally realized later on that it was frogs. Or I think it was. As we went downstream and the day grew long the noise turned into an erie chorus.
I'll try to enter a GPS track if I can figure out how to down/upload it. It's my first attempt at GPS. It seems like there are several different routes that people use but overall I find this route to be perfectly acceptable.
We drank a lot of water. 5 quarts each. Why not? I brought my filter.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
There were quite a few blooms out there but it's a little light this year.


dry Hawaiian Mist Dry Dry
no flow. There were couple of very small isolated pools.
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Mar 12 2015
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 Triplogs 4

58 male
 Joined Feb 21 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Midnight Mesa Loop - MazatzalPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 12 2015
egreenTriplogs 4
Backpack32.00 Miles
Backpack32.00 Miles3 Days         
25 LBS Pack
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This is my first post. HAZ triplogs have been very valuable resources for planning my trips so I decided to share mine. I'll try to do more of this in the future. I wonder if some of these trails can survive if people like me are hesitant to visit them due to uncertain conditions.
Much of my description is based on route-finding because that seemed to be the theme for this adventure. Being slow to accept technology (especially in the wilderness) I attempted this with a compass, a Mazatzal Wilderness Map, several black and white prints from my TOPO! software and what I could remember from HAZ triplogs.
My teenage sons and I set out on the Midnight Mesa loop unsure of trail conditions and a little unsure of my route finding abilities. I typically hike on more established trails. We left the house early hoping to get to Sheep Bridge early enough to put some distance on the first day. We got shortly past Seven Springs campground when an elderly woman parked in the road flagged us down. She did not speak very much English but she told me she had run out of gas. We ended up driving her to the Bartlett Ranger Station where they helped her call a tow truck. They also helped set her up with an escort back to town because we were afraid that she wasn't as sharp as she once was and didn't realize that she was driving deeper into the wilds. She must have been there all night because it was early when I found her. She spoke such little English that I had to determine that on my own.
So with that over, I tried to make up some time getting back to sheep bridge but the road is pretty rough. We finally got on the trail at about 11am. Not bad considering...

The actual hike:
We had no trouble at all following the trail for the first 5 or 6 miles. Then as the trail started to climb we had to rely on cairns more often but had little trouble finding our route to Mountain Spring for the evening.
The next day I got confused by the trail signs. There are three signs near Mountain Spring. The first one is the trail to Davenport Trail/ Deadman Creek before Mountain Spring. The second sign showed Dutchman Grave Trail going to the left, with Willow Springs trail to Sheep Bridge behind us, and Mountain Spring to the right. So where did Willow Springs Trail continue? I didn't want to go down Dutchman Grave Trail so I went back towards Mountain Spring to see if I missed something. We finally continued on towards Dutchman Grave and found a third sign for the Willow Springs/Dutchman Grave intersection. My point is the second sign should not have mentioned Dutchman Grave Trail until the third intersection because we were actually still on the Willow Springs Trail.
The trail climbed out of the valley and across some ridges to Midnight Mesa. This section of the trail was very easy to follow until we approached the Midnight Mesa traverse. Once we found the right line across the traverse we were able to follow the trail but there were no markers until the other end of the traverse. There was not much way we could lose it with steep slopes on either side of the trail. We found markers on the other side of the traverse and followed to the sign-post (no sign) at the Midnight Mesa Trail intersection. We lost the trail and a lot of time here. The trail drops into the first drainage past the Mesa but I continued too far down the right-hand ridge of the valley. We scoured the mountainside and decided to just go down the valley and see if we could find a marker. I came across the tracks of a large elk that had took me right to a marker at the left hand side of the drainage. This drainage had a nice flow of water and some rocky pools. We followed the elk, who obviously knew the trail, from one marker to another but they were sparsely placed and overgrown. We lost the trail again as the canyon narrowed and ended up walking down the wash all the way to Wet Bottom Creek where we found the crossing point where we lost the trail again. We spread out searching again and found a corral just downstream from the crossing. I headed towards the low saddle that the map indicated and finally found our first marker and there were the elk tracks that took us to the next marker and we were able to follow them all the way to the Fuller seep drainage. We spread out and finally found a creek crossing marker in the overgrown brush. Encouraged, we spread out again and searched for any sign of the trail in an area with a lot of deadfalls. We searched for the trail for another hour or more but it was coming to decision time because we had already lost so much time. The afternoon was getting late and if we continued to have this much trouble route-finding on the rest of the loop we wouldn't make it around in our allotted 4 days. And not being able to follow the trail made it hard to schedule camp sites and water availability. I decided we should abandon the loop and return from where we came. This was hard to accept and I will always wonder, was I using good judgement or wimping out? We backtracked to Wet Bottom Creek to camp.
Day 3 we back-tracked the Midnight Trail like champs. We found it easy to follow now that we know the trail. I placed a couple of cairns but I can think of a few other places I should have placed them. There were 3 deer in the basin near Mountain Spring. This is the first sighting of large animals but we saw a lot of deer and elk tracks. We took a break at Mtn. Spring around noon and decided to return to the truck that night. On the way back I almost stepped on a Gila Monster. I may or may not have made a girly noise. As I went around the beast it lunged and hissed at me giving me another little shot of adrenaline. We finally made Sheep Bridge as it got dark.
We did not any sign of humans at all, not even a boot track.
Perhaps now I should do the loop from the other direction. If I can find my way to Fuller Seep area I know I can complete the loop.
Or maybe I should embrace the GPS.
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Wildflowers Observation Light
Wildflowers were abundant in the lower desert sections but it was nowhere near peak bloom. The plant life was very diverse in the lower section.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Mountain Spring - Mazatzal Quart per minute Quart per minute
Spring pool was full but not over-flowing. Water in livestock troughs. Plenty of water as expected.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Wet Bottom Creek - Red Hills #262 Medium flow Medium flow
Nice gentle flow.
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average hiking speed 1.31 mph

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