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Red Tanks Trail #107, AZ

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Difficulty 3 of 5
Route Finding 3 of 5
Distance One Way 8.2 miles
Trailhead Elevation 2,625 feet
Elevation Gain 1,140 feet
Accumulated Gain 1,515 feet
Avg Time One Way 5 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 13.25
Interest Seasonal Creek
Backpack Yes & Connecting
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Red Tanks La Barge Loop
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Author nonot
author avatar Guides 98
Routes 249
Photos 2,067
Trips 495 map ( 4,671 miles )
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Location Phoenix, AZ
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Preferred   Mar, Nov, Feb, Jan → 8 AM
Seasons   Late Autumn to Early Spring
Sun  6:12am - 6:25pm
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🔥 2020 Sawtooth Fire24.7k
🔥 2019 Woodbury Fire123.8k
🔥 1975 Needle Fire4.9 mi*
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Warning the 2019 Woodbury Fire & 2020 Sawtooth Fire damaged a majority of the Superstition Wilderness.
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Overview
This is a less-traveled trail that begins at Dripping Springs, continuing through Upper La Barge Box. It follows the creek westward until intersecting with the Dutchman Trail #104 at La Barge Spring. Peralta Trailhead is generally the trailhead of choice.


Due to its length and the fact that neither terminus is near a trailhead, doing the entire Red Tanks trail as a day hike is not recommended as an entire loop would be over 20 mi. However, portions of the Red Tanks are used on many popular day loop hikes, and a backpacker could easily travel from Dripping Springs to La Barge for a short 9-mile day. Excellent campsites can be found at both ends of this trail. Primarily used by backpackers, it is perfect for those seeking solitude.

For those considering the Red Tanks, I recommend following it in a clockwise direction, primarily for the climb to the Red Tanks Divide on the east side of Coffee Flat. Although uphill in both directions, the portion from Dripping Springs to the Divide seems to be a worse climb than going from the other direction. However, as I did this in the reverse direction, I will describe it going counterclockwise.

Hike
Red Tanks is primarily composed of 3 sections used by many loop hikes:
A: Dripping Springs to Hoolie Bacon (Red Tanks Divide portion)
B: Hoolie Bacon to Whiskey Springs (this section is also known as "Upper La Barge Box")
C: Whiskey Springs to La Barge Springs

Portion A
This segment seems to me to be the toughest of the three parts of the Red Tanks Trail. Beginning at Dripping Springs, you are at the intersection of Frasier and Randolph Canyon. From here, you follow the creek bed of Randolph Canyon north. The high route follows high on the east bank, but some prefer to stay in the creek bed. After about 0.8 mi or about 15 minutes, the trail crosses (or leaves) the creek and proceeds on a steep climb directly west. It is imperative you pay close attention and keep your eyes peeled. Those following the trail high on the east bank will probably discover the crossing, however from the easier route up the creek bed, it is EXTREMELY easy to miss the turnoff to the west, it is not marked well at all, and one might find themselves, unfortunately, heading up Randolph Canyon. It was marked by a tiny cairn about 40 feet off the trail under a bush when I went. I thought that surely that couldn't be the marker for the creek exit, but a fellow hiker had warned me to keep my eyes open, and luckily I investigated a bit and followed it up. It wasn't until I had climbed a few hundred yards that I convinced myself this was part of the Red Tanks and not some game trail. Those going in the reverse direction are likely not to have this problem, but I feel compelled to warn those headed north to watch closely.

Once you get out of the creek, the trail climbs to the Red Tanks Divide. This climb can be unpleasant if it is sunny out as you get full exposure to the east rising sun. I would recommend those attempting this to pick a day where the high is no more than the upper 70s as the combination of the climb and full sun exposure can beat you up pretty good.

Climbing up to the divide, my trail map indicated there were a few offshoot trail segments. I have no clue where these might be, the Red Tanks trail is faint but distinguishable, but I didn't see any cairns or distinguishable side trails leading off from the Red Tanks at this point.

At the top of the Divide, the view to the north is excellent. You can see all of the Horse Tanks Basin, Herman Mountain, and some of the untamed area near Brad's Canyon. Take a break here to rest from the climb and grab some lunch.

The rest of this portion descends from the divide to Upper LaBarge Creek. You will have problems once you finally reach the creek. Finding the Red Tanks Trail the last 0.2 mi to get across La Barge Creek and the numerous tributary streams at this point to the intersection with Hoolie Bacon will take some guesswork and a few wrong turns. I recommend you generally try to follow your compass mostly north, slightly west, and follow the creek beds that head in the direction you are going. Keep a lookout for cairns, and don't be afraid to return to your starting crossing point if you see nothing after heading about 8-10 minutes in one direction. It took me three tries at this point until I spotted the final portion of the Red Tanks to the signed intersection with Hoolie.

In general, the trail in the Red Tanks Divide portion is less traveled, and there are two difficult route-finding sections. There is significant catclaw along this portion, so pants are recommended.

Portion B
The Upper La Barge Box portion of the Red Tanks is a short, scenic climbing trail that follows high above the creek on the north side of the creek. Climbing on Herman Mountain, the lower portions are shaded by Picacho Butte to your south in winter early and late in the day.

You will climb from the intersection of Hoolie Bacon along a somewhat easily followed trail that gradually gets cliffier. I recall a very brushy section shortly into it that provided some good shade for a break on a hot day. After a few hundred feet of elevation gain, the trail precariously follows along a ledge of Herman Mountain and provides outstanding La Barge Creek views. Short, 45 degree steep sections are common. Probably about six sections, no more than 50-100 feet or so long, are encountered, so it may present some difficulty for some hikers, think of something like portions of Cardiac Hill, maybe a bit steeper. There is one decent campsite along at about the halfway point on this segment, which would be great for those that wouldn't roll over in their sleep :D.

For about 50% of this portion, you can look at Herman's Cave. Herman's cave is on the north side of the creek and faces southeast. If you wish to check it out, be warned there is significant scree, and it is relatively steep. The cave itself may have bats, birds, or just their droppings. It is steep inside the cave too, so camping would not be possible. I'd recommend you take a picture and move on since it is not worth the climb, in my opinion. Fragile Arch is worth gawking at for a bit, and it is located on the top of a hill to the south of the cave.

After you descend back into the creek near the final leg, you will have one difficult section. The trail drops you off into the creek bed. The crossing goes backwards along the creek, so use this knowledge wisely, and you should have no problem. IE, it goes the REVERSE direction in the creek bed for about a hundred and fifty feet. If you are traveling going west along the trail, this will be the section it dumps you in the creek, and you go upstream. If you are traveling east along the trail, this is easily recognizable because you just emerged from a clearing under a canopy of trees from the south side of the creek bed, and you should go downstream.

After this section, the trail is somewhat gnarly and crosses the creek a few more times before reaching the signed intersection with the Whiskey Springs trail. There are a few campsites between the intersection and the backward-crossing section that could cause a slight bit of confusion.

Overall, the Upper La Barge Box portion is somewhat difficult due to the climbing, but it is short, and there is not a lot of cat claw. The views are outstanding.

Portion C
The section from Whiskey Springs Trail intersection to LaBarge Spring (and the intersection with Dutchman Trail) is one of the flattest sections of trail you will find anywhere in the Superstitions. Unfortunately, it is full of catclaw.

The trail follows along La Barge Creek, crossing it numerous times. Several campsites along this section may unfortunately cause the hiker to lose the main trail. If you find yourself in one of them and cannot locate the trail, I'd recommend you backtrack, as many of the campgrounds are right near where the trail crosses the creek.

This section is the most traveled and usually is decently cairned, except for those few spots you need them to distinguish where a campsite trail shouldn't be followed.

Pants are recommended, as well as long sleeves. Those with Kevlar would want to don it for this section. The crossings are generally a few dozen yards of rocky creek crosses, and unless it has rained in the past two months, you generally don't have to be concerned about getting your feet wet.

After traveling along and admiring the cottonwoods and catclaw, you will hear the sound of water as you near the end. La Barge spring is one of the most reliable in the western Supes, and it is a mini-oasis of vegetation and wildlife. Some ENORMOUS trees are thriving in this micro-climate, and if you are a birder, break out the glasses and stay awhile.

If you check out the trough, please beware of the poison ivy and keep any trash, food, etc., away from the trough and pipe. The quality of water in the spring seems excellent. There may be a snake known to inhabit near the spring as well, please leave him be. Campers should not camp within a few hundred yards of the spring, as the wildlife needs the water as much as you do. Besides which, who wants a skunk in their tent?

Overall, this portion is easy and flat with some rocky creek crossings, but if you can make it to the Red Tanks, you should be able to navigate this portion without much difficulty.

Triplogs
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• Day hikes to consider: (go to the page and post)
- (difficult) Charlesbois Loop II
- (difficult) Whiskey West-Red Tanks Loop
- (strenuous) Dripping Springs Super Loop
- (strenuous) Red Tanks Super Loop from Peralta TH
- (strenuous) Tortilla Loop

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2008-03-12 nonot

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    Directions
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    To Peralta Trailhead
    7.6 miles east of the junction Idaho Rd / US-60. Turn Left on to FS77 which is Peralta Road. Follow FS77 5.6 miles to a left and up turnoff. Continue 1.9 miles to Peralta Trailhead.

    The trailhead has restrooms minus running water. The parking lot is enormous. It does fill up in season on weekends. Since there are no lines, the rangers ask that you park straight between the posts in the main lot. Please do your part with this simple request and make room for the next guy. 0.5 miles before reaching the trailhead is an overflow lot, which is also suited for horse trailer parking.

    From PHX (Jct I-10 & AZ-51) 45.2 mi - about 1 hour 8 mins
    From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 97.0 mi - about 2 hours 16 mins
    From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 192 mi - about 3 hours 15 mins
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