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May 16 2020
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Deadman Mesa / Fossil Creek loop, AZ 
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This was a route I had been eyeing as a possibility for awhile - down Deadman Mesa to Fossil Creek, up the creek to the Childs Power Road, and then back along the roads to form a big 24-25 mile loop. Mentioned it to some friends on Friday as a possible activity (they wanted a creek) and they were not deterred, so here we were...

The miles jogging along Deadman Mesa were pleasant. Temperatures weren't too warm yet, and occasionally you get a good view. The actual trail is pretty grassy and overgrown, and we got a little off track by some misleading orange ribbons. Once we got back on the trail near the end of the mesa, it was pretty straightforward most of the way down.

It felt great to be down at the creek, and we filtered water and spent a good 20 minutes picking all the grass out of our socks and shoes.

The creek is pretty slow, but straightforward. The rocks are nice and grippy, and no swimming is necessary. After a couple hours, it seemed like we hadn't even made it half way, so I had some doubts whether we'd be done with this thing by nightfall...

Further upstream, we started to find some nice clear side channels that made the going much faster.

Once below the road, we decided to leave the creek, but took a wrong turn on what seemed like an actual trail, so we got an extra scramble in instead of just strolling over to the parking lot. Oh well.

The road miles felt pretty easy to Waterfall Trailhead (and we saw zero vehicles - I suppose the Coconino side is closed?), but after a day like that, that 4-5 mile steady climb up to the top was brutal. Tried to jog as much as I could since it was getting dark, and made it back to the vehicles in the last throes of twilight.

Definitely was having some regrets about this one during the hike/run.
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Stehr to Childs via Fossil-Verde, AZ 
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Well on paper this sounded like a great day trip but a few unexpected hiccups made this "day hike" a little longer than expected.
The shuttle was setup at Childs and we began our descent down to Fossil, along the way my dog found one of the freshest deer kills I have ever encountered, I could have cut off a piece of backstrap and cooked it right there!

We took a vegetation choked drainage from there on which I was not a fan of but once in the shaded cool creek bottom I was a happy camper.
But that did not last long as just downstream we cliffed out and had to bypass up and around one of the many sketchy cliffs of the day.
After some hearty bushwhacking we made it to the scenic narrow canyon area where I had turned around a few years ago, so the rest of Fossil down to the Hardscrabble confluence was all new ground for me.
I made 3 cracked pepper turkey and baby swiss sandwiches on whole wheat but I left them all in my truck so I had maybe 600 calories in me from food and maybe another 400 from beer, so ideally my body was definitely lacking proper nourishment on one of the more rugged hikes I've ever been apart of.
Joel, Chumley and I continued on at a hearty pace while losing sight of Jon and his inexperienced friend as we assumed they turned around and went back at some point since his buddy was in over his head.

After countless creek crossings and more bushwhacking we arrived at a scenic bend complete with great fall colors and a nice campsite and that is near where Joel stayed for photos and we split up.
I made a promise to Joel I would wait for him at the NE corner of the confluence of Fossil and Verde so we can hike back together in the dark from there.

Soon after Chumley and I split up as well and also where I encountered a pool with limited options for travel and after being frustrated of finding no good areas to cross I took a chest deep wade while carrying my dog and attempting to keep my pack full of camera gear somewhat above water.

I eventually made it to the cliff I was at a few years ago for sunset and wanted to recreate the photo I took but this time with fall colors.
I made it to the confluence just after dark and knowing how rough the terrain was behind my I knew it would be awhile until Joel reached me so I started a small fire and began to dry my wet clothes while waiting.
I told myself I would wait one hour for his arrival so when it came close to the hour mark I began to periodically shout Joel's name because the confluence is a wide but densely vegetated area so it would be easy to miss someone and after a few shouts I got a reply and soon saw the glimmer of a headlamp and we were then reunited.

Except Joel was the bearer of bad news, he notified me Jon and his friend were still back there and making there way down Fossil!
Knowing they would be moving slower than Joel we decided to wait a solid hour and fifteen minutes which would end at 8:15 and with still no sign of them we made the tough decision to get moving because we still had to get out of there ourselves and then work on a plan of help for them.
Joel made a very large rock formation that spelled out "Truck" just to give them some sort of info on our whereabouts and just as we left and began to make our first cliff bypass we heard a faint sound shouting "Joel"!
We shouted back and heard no reply for quite some time, we contemplated it could have been an echo after Joel sneezed and I may have been borderline delirious from fatigue and lack of food but I was certain It was Jon's voice and so was Joel.

Then we heard the yells again and soon saw two headlamps meandering down the creek, at last we were all reunited and then began to make the "easy" portion of the trek.
For whatever reason I kind of blocked out the numerous sketchy bypasses from my last visit and only remembered the good parts of the hike, well it turns out there was a lot more bad than good and we had quite a few obstacles to navigate in the dark.
To avoid the water we either had to climb a few hundred feet completely up and around the precipices or take them straight on making acrobatic moves clinging on to the skinny sections of cliff high above the water all while carrying a dog for most of the more technical spots.
I specifically remember a section that I had Payton in one hand, clinging on to the cliff with the other hand with the rumbling river below us and my dog literally stiffed armed the wall and almost sent her and I plunging down into the Verde! :sweat:


After what seemed like forever we finally made it to the dirt roads at Child's at 12:45am and seeing the truck was the biggest sense of relief after a very long day!
Arrived at home at 3:30 am with a beaten up body, shredded hiking boots and one tired dog.
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Stehr to Childs via Fossil-Verde, AZ 
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We set up a shuttle by dropping my truck at Childs before heading out from Stehr Lake with the intent of following Fossil Creek to the Verde and then heading upstream to Childs. We were a bit ahead of prime colors in Fossil, but this is an incredibly scenic stretch of river (some might even say wild and scenic!) and lack of yellows and golds along the crystal clear creek water did not detract one bit.

We followed a reasonable use path toward the creek before dipping into a drainage and following it down the rest of the way. I had figured it would take 4-5 hours to get to the confluence but we stopped a few times to enjoy the scenery and it became apparent that we would be a bit behind schedule.

No matter, Matt told us travel along the Verde was somewhat easier than it was along Fossil, so I set out to make it there by dark. The water was a perfect temperature for the countless crossings but as daylight waned I was happy to find some beaten cattle tracks that allowed me to dry out a bit. Since I wasn't chasing late light and photography, I parted ways with the others about a mile from the confluence. With 4 miles of upstream Verde travel I was guessing 2 hours should get me to Childs.

The immediate upstream turn requires a high bypass as cliffs drop straight to the river. Stunning views over the Verde, golden cottonwoods, and Squaw Butte looking as dominant as ever from this angle, I climbed up and began a traverse 150 feet above the river. The (poop-my-pants) highlight of my day happened here as a mountain lion got up and slowly but gracefully moved out of my path. It had been laying under some desert scrub bush and had it not moved I would not have noticed it, but apparently my presence was a bit too close for comfort, so about 20-feet out it decided to walk away. I froze and watched for a few seconds. It didn't turn to look at me, instead effortlessly and silently making it's way down to the Verde. Though it seemed like minutes, by the time I realized I was not in danger and grabbed my phone to try for a photo, it was out of sight. [-(

At this point, I decided to forego the planned headphones and music, and opted to turn on my headlamp a few minutes earlier than planned. The route dropped down to the river and I only hoped that the lion had chosen downstream (toward the others!? :scared: ) rather than upstream where I was headed!

As darkness fell and I sauntered along the shore loudly singing my grammy-winning lyrical masterpiece "I'm a people!", I realized that this would not be the pleasant walk along the river that I had mentally prepared for. There were several sections of flat cattle-trail to follow, but they regularly petered out or cliffed out and required sketchy climbs and bypasses. I found myself repeatedly saying out loud "Make smart decisions Chumley", knowing that at this point saving 10 or 15 minutes wasn't worth a poor decision.

The darkness made route-finding a challenge, but I was happy to have a 350 lumen headlamp and a backup 550 lumen bike light. I don't know how I ever hiked at night with less.

Route Scout didn't talk to me nearly as often as I wished, and I considered changing to 1/4 mile splits. Finally however, I reached Childs and my waiting truck.

I knew it would be a couple of hours before they others would arrive, so I curled up in my sleeping bag and tried to snooze a bit. This area has a direct line of sight to the towers on Squaw Peak above Camp Verde, so there's an occasional cell signal, and I was able to get a phone call from Jon with a report of their location and condition. Knowing the others were together and making their way upstream was comforting and I was grateful to see the headlamps later on as they arrived at the truck exhausted. We all piled in for the rough ride back up to Stehr and headed home from there.

This one took longer than expected, and is a solid pumpkin-kicker. It would be easier in daylight! :D I would absolutely do it again though. It's remote, wild, and scenic!

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Fossil Creek - Mazatzal Wilderness AreaCamp Verde, AZ
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Play day at Fossil Creek. Assembled 11 people into 3 cars and with permits in hand we went to Fossil Creek. We found ourselves a nice swimming hole and spent most of our time lounging, swimming, diving, etc. We split up into a few different groups and explored different parts of the creek. Temp peaked around 105 degrees, but the water was nice and cold.
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Fossil Creek hike and play outing. Took my kids out to Fossil for some preseason creek play. No permits needed until April 1. Had the entire area to ourselves for the first 90 minutes. Water was cold, I'm guessing low 60's. In addition to normal spring flow, the creek is also picking up some extra snow/rain runoff. Total flow around 100 cfs. The area surrounding the creek looks pretty beat up. Flash flooding on Feb 28 reached beyond 3000cfs. One of the Waterfall Trail log bridges is wiped out.

We did some cliff jumping into the chilly water, set up a hammock and relaxed near the large waterfall. A group of about 12 arrived, started jumping and sliding down the falls, providing a little extra entertainment. After awhile we moved on to another part of the creek for more creek play and cliff jumping.
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Apr 04 2016
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Fossil Creek - Mazatzal Wilderness AreaCamp Verde, AZ
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Just a nice and easy birthday backpacking trip for my 24th birthday with my good friend Brandon. After scanning the area from satellite view on Google Maps there were a few plausible waterfall sections of Fossil Creek that caught my eye that I wanted to check out in person. We started from Stehr Lake and made our canyon descent on the well traveled game trails down to a perfect camp on the creek bench with a looming view of Deadman Mesa. Lots of beer and whiskey led to an unexpected early nights rest but prompted an early next day of exploring. We ventured downstream to the main sight I had marked that seemed to be a good sized falls area. The canyon was way more beautiful than I was expecting, it truly had so many different and unique views with every 100ft or so. After making it to the destination and finding out that it was in fact a major single concentrated rapid area it unfortunely just didn't quite have the height to make it a profound waterfall. We had lunch on a sweet beach area nearby and attempted to test the frigid waters, even though the sun was prominent all day and rather hot outside for April, the water is still too cold to comfortably swim in. On the return trek we proceeded no more than a quarter mile or so from camp going upstream and surprisingly found out the best waterfall section of the whole area! I was overjoyed after coming across this unique little section! It consisted of two twin falls that were separated my a rock formation in the middle, they are no more than 5 feet in height but the sheer amount of water being forced in that small area and lush green surroundings just makes this one of my favorite little waterfalls. The kind of waterfall area that deserves a name in my book, I just haven't been able to come up with one yet... We went another 1/4 mile upstream to check out another area that seemed probable for a falls area and we were greeted by the only part of the whole trip that was going to require getting our feet wet, with no way to portage on either side of the shallow pool the narrow canyon creates the only way to go was right through the water, luckily it was only a few inches deep of emerald water, no problem, it was actually quite relaxing and one of my favorite areas of the trip. Again what seemed to possibly be a falls area was just a very nice section of rapids, no worries because I enjoyed every bit this canyon had to offer. We came across some killer campsites near the creekside throughout our journey but the roar of the water would be a little too much for me being that close, some were literally within 10 feet or so. We did not see another soul during our trip which was awesome because it just added to the fun of having this little paradise to ourselves since its relatively easy to access. All in all another great trip exploring the many wonders that this great state has to
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The goal of the day was to hike from the old Child's Power-Plant to the confluence of Fossil Creek and the Verde River and then proceed upstream Fossil to where it converges with Hardscrabble Creek. Well let's just say i didn't quite make to my final destination but I had plenty of fun along the way. First off I thought the weird local people hanging out at hot springs was some kind of a Hollywood myth but just as I was zipping up my backpack and locking my vehicle I was greeted by a very strange old man letting me know that everything is just fine and the water is just right! :stop: I quickly let him know I had other plans for the day and that I was hiking down river, he was surprised that I wasn't going and continued on in his creeper van which I have no idea how he managed to get all the way to the end of FR 502. Anyway I started my hike on the eastern side of the Verde and tried to follow a path of least resistance which was easier said than done. The hike was a mixture of nice well traveled cattle trails but then it would turn into either scrambling alongside boulders on well defined bench sections or a hellish bushwhack through super thick vegetation! Perfect hiking weather the entire day with temps in the mid 50's and it was periodically sprinkling in the morning. I made it to the confluence of Fossil just after noon and had a big lunch and took a lot of photos of that very beautiful area! I was amazed how crystal clear the water is of Fossil Creek as it pours into the "Dirty Verde". This is technically my first time at Fossil Creek because Iv always strayed away from FC just because Iv heard how disgustingly crowded it can get which is definitely not my thing. So with that being said I did not see a soul during my entire hike and I'm not sure how strong Fossil usually runs but yesterday it was flowing with the intensity of a small river rather than a piddly creek. I ventured upstream Fossil but just as I was about 3/4 of a mile of where it converges with Hardscrabble Creek I checked the time and realized it was already 4:30 and combine that with being a little exhausted from all the bushwhacking and ankle twisting terrain I decided to throw in the flag and head back for the day. Where I stopped was a major pool area with a jaw dropping view of Ike's Saddle which I will plan my descent into the area next time, that or Stehr Lake. All in all it was a fabulous day of exploring and a managed to snap some sweet photos along the way! Even though it was only 10 miles of hiking it sure
fatigued me more than usual and it felt amazing to return back to my vehicle just after the sunset. :worthy: (please disregard the 1
mile or so on my route from my return, after I hopped in my SUV and drove up FR 502 I heard some bird chirping and I relaized I forgot to turn my Route Scout off :D )
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Fossil Springs Loop, AZ 
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A slice of paradise. One of those hikes I have never done because of the negatives. Too many people and trash. Figured it wouldn't be too crowded on a Monday. Wrong.

First 2/3rds of the hike we only saw a handful of people. Pays to get an early start. We hiked down the Fossil Springs trail. The old dam site is very cool and the swimming is fun. Didn't think the Flume trail would have so much elevation gain. I thought water flowed down hill! :-k

The Waterfall trail/creek has many awesome easy to get to swimming holes. By the time we got to the waterfall, the area was getting crowded. Only stayed about fifteen minutes. We saw about fifty more people hiking in as we were hiking out. Hard to imagine what a weekend day would be like here. :o

We hiked out on the FS road. There is enough garbage to fill a couple of pick up truck beds in and along the road. The whole loop is pretty much littered. Unbelievable people have no regard for the environment or others. I've seen cleaner homeless camps. It's no wonder they feel the need to restrict access. I'm in favor of it.

Overall experience though is very good. Had a great day. Always fun hiking with Kelly. Thanks for the blizzard! :)
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Fossil Springs Loop, AZ 
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i've hiked down to fossil creek twice before the dam was decommissioned, once in 2006 and once before 1998
been wanting to go back, and john hadn't been here at all
he even took a monday off so we could avoid some of the crowds
arrived at the trailhead early enough that only three or four cars were in the parking lot
didn't see anyone on the way down, until near the creek when we ran into a couple of backpackers hiking out
noticable amount of smoke in the canyon from the horse tank fire north of strawberry
crossed the creek bed and went past the camping area to the old dam site
took a dip there, sharing the place with just five younger guys
nice place for a swim and the water felt great
i wanted to see the waterfall on the other end, so we hiked down the flume trail for a few miles
dropped down off trail to the waterfall trail, and backtracked to the waterfall
went for another swim as we crossed the creek, then went up to the waterfall
started seeing more and more people, along with a corresponding amount of garbage
the waterfall was nice, and i'm glad we went there, but way too many people to enjoy it
went back to another pool for a snack and one last swim
hiked out forest road 708, which is now closed to vehicle traffic
essentially followed the loop bruce and joe did last april, but from the top
such a beautiful area, and i enjoyed seeing more of it
but the amount of water bottles, toilet paper, food scraps, wrappers and general garbage is disgusting
it's a shame that some of the visitors treat the wilderness as one big dumpster
on a monday, john counted about 60 people at the waterfall, with numbers rising to well over 100 as we hiked toward the road
while the warm temps make swimming fun, i wouldn't do this hike when school is out
i liked the dam area better, but by the time we got back to my truck, the lot was full and the dam was probably just as crowded
another time i would explore more of the creek, rather than hiking above it
a good time in spite of the garbage rant
good company, too - thanks john
hit that brewery on the way home, and then dq in payson
made it back just in time for the women's world cup soccer game
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Returned to Twin Buttes over weekend. Just a quick trip down to the Fossil for some rest and relaxation.

Blanco and I started just before 7:30 on Saturday. Ideally, I would have liked to hit TH a little earlier, but that was about the best we could do for driving up from Phoenix that morning. Made it to Fossil Creek in about four hours on the dot. We certainly felt some of the heat of the day, but for the most part were sparred its wrath and were playing in the creek by 11:30.

After some fun in the water we both took extended naps. I was still trying to shake a cold so only did some very minor exploring. Initially, I planned on finally picking up where ever Deadman Mesa Trail climbs out of that area and preparing for a loop the next day, but I lost my patience for that section of trail near the Fossil and decided with warm temps I would just out and back it anyways. There was also water the whole way on our return route and Deadman Mesa was unknown, so we went with the safe route on day two.

Left camp earlier then day before on Sunday, hiked out in just under five hours. I was surprised to see the TH bumping when we arrived, all orv people but they were friendly enough.

Blanco and I did just fine with the warmer temps, warm but nothing too unbearable. Blanco rocked his pack both ways and was able to cool off in tanks at four miles, and eight miles, just about perfect distances for the ground we were covering and the hotter weather. Over night temps were perfect for sleeping was able to go pretty light for the trip with no rain fly or sleeping bag.
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This was my second attempt at getting to the Verde Hot springs and I made it :y: !

Mike & I started at the road closed sign(near the upper trailhead). As we walked down the closed road, we theorized as to why it was closed. Mike though it might be to reduce the traffic to the lower Fossil creek. I figured it was to prevent cars from driving off the road. From the HAZ photo sets, it looked like it was a common occurrence.

The lower trailheads were full when we went by. About 11am there was a huge caravan of cars driving in. We wondered where they would park.

This was my first time seeing the lower section of fossil creek. Soon we were descending into the Verde. Mike was tired, so he chilled out at the Verde as I continued on to the hot springs.
I changed into my Keen saddles before heading down the trail to the hot springs. The crossing was pretty fun. It was longer than I expected. The last 50 feet were in muddy water.
When I got to the springs there was a family of 12~15 kids and parents playing around. They left shortly later and I had the whole area to myself for about 7 minutes! When I headed back, another family showed me a closer crossing. It knocked off about a 1/4 mile. The closing was narrower, about 3 inched taller and a little faster. I preferred that closer crossing.

I found Mike, had lunch and then we made the march back to the car. Along the way we filtered some water from Fossil creek and saw a skunk by the lower trailhead :o .

The weather was all over the board. The morning was chilly. We had sprinkles by the bridge. The temps by the river were hot. The we got closer to the Jeep, it got down right cold. There was a teeth chattering wind for the last 10 minutes.

It was a fun hike. I might bring my son next time.
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Fossil Springs Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
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This is one of about five that have been on my list forever....

Finally talked señor José into visiting the crystal clear cool blue green waters of Fossil Creek.
The Flume Trail was also on the list and made a convenient loop.

We were the second car in the Waterfall Trail TH at about 8am. Hiking CCW, we climbed the 5+ mile closed to vehicle portion of Fossil Creek Rd. This get's the majority of the elevation out of the way easily on the road. Some great views of the Fossil Creek area from up on this road.

At around 10am we made the Fossil Springs TH and about 30 cars. I was not expecting solitude on this hike, just Blue Green Waters. For the amount of cars, the trail was not crowded at all.

Lush and green at the bottom opened up to more and more water. Just prior to seeing our first spring, Joe walked overtop of a 4' Gopher Snake. Now the famous waters kicked in.

Underwater GoPro
https://www.youtube.com/embed/hrnktyzV-KU


We made our way to the old Dam area. It was interesting to find out that before it was decommissioned and ripped out, the Dam was 14' taller. Joe pointed out the Toilet Bowl as we crossed over the creek to the Flume trail.

Dam Area
https://www.youtube.com/embed/keYaE08jrro


You had to look pretty close to see the remnants of the old Flume. The pathway was visible in spots, as well as some of the footings and hardware. I really enjoyed the views of the creek from the Flume Trail.

The track I'd drawn up jumped off the Flume and made it's way for the Waterfall on the Waterfall Trail. Warning for those that may follow the posted track, the last drop to the creek is steep and loose, but offers different views of the natives jumping the 40' into the Blue Green pools below.

Lunch was on the creek next to a 15' diameter whirlpool. There were probably 30 or so people enjoying the waters and taking turns jumping to the waters below

Waterfall Backflip
https://www.youtube.com/embed/_JAaPC5hfTI


The Waterfall Trail is jungle-like and well traveled

Back to the truck and parking lot that was one other car, was now full, as well as all the other lots and roadsides.

This is a special area that everyone has to experience. Weekdays, before school lets out for the summer, Recommended.
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East Verde RiverPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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1st trip
The idea for this trek came from reading the blog of someone who found some pretty nice cliff-dwellings in area of the northwestern Maztzals called the Gorge, the details were vague and it was not clear whether they were found along the East Verde or in one of the side canyons leading into the Gorge. So I made a big loop in route manager utilizing Saddle Ridge Trail #14, the Gorge the East Verde, and Verde River Trail #11. I showed the loop to a couple of HAZers and was a little disappointed to find out someone had already pretty much did the same loop. I thought for a minute I had designed quite the unique off trail back-pack adventure, but of course somebody had already did it, no worries though I knew it would be a good rugged adventure, and I felt I was kind of overdue for one. Bob P joined me for most of day one.

The trip into the Gorge went smooth, I actually overshot my own route by a mile and half because I had hiked in so quick with Bob, I did not realize I was so close to where I wanted to turn-off by the time we split and I hiked another two miles before realizing I wanted to turn-off long ago.

Speaking of splitting, Bob seemed to have had a pretty ambitious route planned for entering the Gorge, so I thought best with dogs and a four day pack to stick to my route and meet him near L.P. Canyon. Bob went on to find a pristine set of petraglpyh, a full elk's head mount, and I got a much steeper and rockier descent into the Gorge. I only went back about six tenths of a mile before saying pumpkin it and taking the quickest route I could find into the sheer sides of the Gorge, rather than the gentle northern slopes of my intended route. In hindsight, I should have stuck with safer first route, as I nearly took Blanco out with a couple boulders that some how managed to find his five hole. I actually almost took Bob out with one as well, I think it was the heavy pack, I was not light on my feet at all..

Had a great time in the Gorge with Bob. We both really enjoyed the scenery in there, the sheer drops, tinkling water falls, deep pools, and mini oasis. Speaking of sheer drops, I was actually relieved to have Bob with me, I would have obviously had to navigate the drops in the canyon regardless, however, it was nice to have company. Bob actually led the way on most, and I cringed as the dogs confidently followed him along 10 inch wide paths a 100 or so feet above the canyon floor, lined with agave for good measure. However, these walks on the wild side were few and generally negated by a quick little "Yahtzee" trail or two that made travel down the Gorge not as horrible as I had thought it could be. I left Bob at Green Horn Canyon and continued down stream towards the East Verde where I almost immediately encountered one of my biggest fears, another huge water fall, we got through it and one more fine, but we were all very happy to be finally reaching camp along the East Verde. I was beat and the dogs were beat, day one ended up being a 14 mile day, with 8-9 of those miles being off trail, oh and I was wearing a four day pack..

I kind of changed my plans I intended to spend two nights along the East Verde, but after not finding the ruins, I decided to just push through to the Big Verde and plan something from a base camp there. The East Verde was beautiful, I started the morning off trying to stay dry and taking the steep out of the way bypasses the cattle take for the deeper spots, however, I think the law of diminishing returns quickly kicked in for me, and I decided they were too hard on the dogs, too over-grown half the time and annoying, so I just started plopping the pack on my head and wading through the river. This actually was a decent strategy in parts where it got thick I just took the water. Although, I learned quickly how a waste deep wade can turn into an arm-pit and neck deep wade. But it really was not that bad, reminded me of trout fishing back home. I camped early after hitting the Verde, I stayed in a really nice spot located in a side canyon off the Verde River Trail. The camp site was awesome and it became even more rewarding when the discovery of a piece of pottery led me to climb three levels of hills to find the largest Pueblo style site I have every found blindly. Just a really large compound with large sections of preserved walls and defined rooms, I have not seen anything that large or preserved outside of the Agua Fria monument area, so that helped alleviate the disappointment of not spotting in cliff-dwellings the previous two days.

The nights were all great, did no rain-fly for last two. The full moon almost literally made it hard to sleep it was so bright. I scaled back day three because Cup seemed a little stiff in the morning. But by scaled back I mean we only hiked the Verde River Trail to Dead man Mesa Trail to Fossil Creek then up to Hell's Hole via Hard Scrabble, then an off-trail cross country route back to the Verde River Trail where we took a nap at camp and went back out again after the temps cooled. Side note Hell's Hole was not that impressive, and I think we need to work on an official route for Dead man Mesa Trail, hike bot seems way off, I followed a well cairn path to Fossil Creek and it was considerably different than hike bot, and I find this is usually not the case?? Likewise, am I the only one who could not follow Dead man Mesa Trail once it hits the Fossil Creek area? I ended up just wading back and forth looking for something that resembled a trail, and think ultimately I just took a series of cattle trails. Hard Scrabble Creek was a bush whack and wet going up to Hell's Hole, so we climbed out there and just rode the contour lines back to the trail while stumbling across ruin sites and ravines that always looked much work at first glance. However, I considered it a success because we never had to drop back into the Fossil or Hard Scrabble Creek drainage's and I was done with creek walking for a while.

Our second hike of the day consisted of following the Verde River Trail past the confluence with the East Verde and towards High Water Trail, but I am not going to lie, I lost the trail after awhile and turned back, it can be tough to follow in spots. However, the parts where we were on trail were pretty cool, you go through a mesquite and hard wood forest that provides a a great canopy through a grassy stretch full of nice spots to camp and close to the river. But then I lost patience with trying to follow the trail and turned back. We actually went back up the East Verde River a little to find the fishing pole and case that I had found the day before, but also left along the trail. I cached that pole and case and will now only need a reel and line if I want to go fishing down there. I explored a few hills, dogs were showing signs of being beat, and it was warm out, so we headed back to camp.

I only did some modest exploring on way out, I went out to Ross' Tank to gain an idea of the canyons leading into the Gorge, and marveled at their depths and drop offs. Then I thought I wonder which one Bob climbed out of? Then the thought crossed my mind, maybe he is still climbing out of one.

Hike out was nice for training Blanco around cows, pretty much indifferent to them now. He was never really bad before, but occasionally he would run up to and startle them, not cool when they have horns. I swear the dogs smelled the car when we hit Twin Buttes Road because they found a second wind. I don't know why I felt I had to scale it back for Cup she finished stronger than ever. In the end the miles were not all that crazy for four days, but they were definitely rugged with about half of the total coming from off trail miles. I was also able to just get some nice chill time around the campsite, finally finishing my book on the English Civil War, so if anyone ever wants to discuss the underlying implications of the Presbyterian and Puritan led Parliament overthrowing the Catholic Monarchy and Charles I feel free to P.M. me. Finally, I did not find the set of ruins I was looking for, but it gives me an excuse to come back.
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Fossil Creek - Mazatzal Wilderness AreaCamp Verde, AZ
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Good to get back to the old stomping grounds, but it's a little sad to see the overuse. This area is even more beautiful than the pre-restoration days in my opinion. There's more creek area and more pools. Gary, Chris, and I hiked-in to the falls and enjoyed snorkeling and rope-swinging along the way. While we had a great time, we were lucky to get there before the crowds. By the time we were leaving, the riffraff were making their way in. It seems that the easier the access, the less appreciation for the area. I say close the roads and make 'em hike in! Still a great destination and I hope to return soon.
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Great hike lots of fun for just playing around and exploring a new area. The water features here are awesome. Becoming more crowded with the work done to the roads.
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Fossil Creek - Mazatzal Wilderness AreaCamp Verde, AZ
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Hiked along the flume road to the old dam and above the dam to the springs. Very easy hike on dirt road. All original buildings, dam, and flumes have been removed, and once again this area is wild and scenic. I had heard that Fossil Creek was dirty and littered, but we found it very clean - no trash. No camping is allowed. Distance and AEG were taken from my GPS.
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Fossil Creek - Mazatzal Wilderness AreaCamp Verde, AZ
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Start Time: 11/07/2011 10:51:00

Finish Time: 11/07/2011 16:05:00

Distance: 9.8 Miles

Average Speed: 1.8 mph

Max Speed: 8.7 mph

Elevation Gain: 1502 ft

Elevation Loss: -1583 ft

Maximum Altitude: 4332 ft

Minimum Altitude: 3650 ft

Rise Time: 2:35

Fall Time: 2:09

Rise Speed: 579.5 ft/h

Fall Speed: -732.2 ft/h

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Location: Fossil Creek Mazatazal Wilderness

Lat/Lon: 34.403086,-111.617231

Forest: Coconino National Forest

Type: Canyon

Difficulty: Moderate

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Family Friendly: Yes

Pets: Yes

Camping: Yes (Outside of Riparian Area)

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Took group of 11 year old scouts to swim at fossil creek. Voted best trip every. Water a bit cold until sun came out. Two other groups there when arrived ~9AM twenty when we left at about ~2PM. Parked at bottom and found two great pools within the first mile (followed creek not trail).
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Kat's sister and brother in-law had never been to Fossil Creek, so we were forced to take them. It didn't take a whole lot of arm-twisting. Weather was perfect, water was cool, and it wasn't too crowded (at first). When we finished swimming and playing at the waterfall and headed back, it was like swimming upstream - I couldn't believe all the people streaming in! I mean, it was Monday after all. When we got back to the cars, the parking lot was jammed, and probably 40+ cars lined the road. Did I mention this was Monday?? Wow... Still, it was a great time. I could visit Fossil Creek every week and not get tired of it!
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