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Feb 23 2025
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Hope Camp TrailTucson, AZ
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Finishing off the trails around the Loma Alta TH including Ridge View, Coyote Wash and the delightful Ruiz trails. Also took the AZT out to the southern park boundary.
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Rincon Creek Part 1, AZ 
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Trying to get all the Saguaro NP trails in this year.

Started off in a brisk 21 degree morning. Beautiful day. Quilter trail is very nice and the Manning Camp trail down to Madrona is a highway. There were actually a couple rangers at Madrona, whom i talked to pleasantly for a while before heading out to see what kind of shape Rincon Creek is in and how much I could get in on the day. What a fantastic trail this is! I got almost 3 miles in before hitting my turnaround time. I should be able to get the rest coming from the other way sometime soon.

Big excellent day in Saguaro
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Short hike in Saguaro National Park to Hope Camp. Our mission was to photograph the full moon as it crested the Rincon Mountain. We have done this hike many times before but it is still enjoyable. Like the last time we tried to photograph the moon rise it was about 20 minutes after the sun set. When it did finally rise my camera didn't function right so the photos didn't come out (it was actually operator error). Hope camp has a good example of a F. Ronstadt Windmill which is from Linda Ronstadt's Grandfather's Hardware store here in Tucson. Very dry all along the trail, you can hear the Prickly pear screaming for water.
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Hope Camp January 2025, AZ 
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We decided to get out for another attempt to see the moonrise. It did not disappoint! Beautiful evening and I always enjoy the Hope Camp Trail. It isn't difficult but the scenery is nice. Rincon Peak is always cool but even more so with the pink tint from the setting sun. It got a little chilly as we were starting back so I appreciated my down jacket and gloves. The moonlight trail was very pretty. I had to tease Mark and tell him another hike where I have not seen a mountain lion! What's up with that?
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Dec 15 2024
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Comino Loma Alta, AZ 
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The calendar said full moon tonight so Ginny and I did a short hike in Saguaro National Park from the Comino Loma Alta Trail Head along the Hope Camp Trail. We had done this trail many times before and thought take this trail to the Ruiz Trail and head up the hill and watch the sun set and moon rise. Got to the top of the hill right at sunset then sat down and waited for the moon to rise. No moon came up and was getting dark so we decided to head back. The moon finally rose on our trip back but 50 minutes after the sun set. The full moon was actually the day before. Not sure where on earth they are calculating the Full moon event but it is a day earlier in Arizona. Could have something to do with the Longitude and latitude differences from where they calculate. Next time I will head up a day early. Was still a pleasant hike, while we sat and waited we enjoyed each others company, felt like a teen ager in a 57 Chevy parked with my date.

Water Report, None. Trail Conditions, It's in the SNP so excellent. No issues walking in the dark (snakes aren't out) and when the moon did come over the mountain it was even easier to see.
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The Ruiz Trail intersects the Hope Camp Trail in two places a half mile apart. A loop can be made by connecting with the Coyote Wash Trail for 1.5 miles. I did a modified version of the loop to get a couple more miles and some extra gain.
Though things are drying out here there were still lots of wildflowers to be seen. I also came across a dback on the return on the Hope Camp Trail.
Nice little Mother's Day hike. :)
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Apr 06 2024
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Short hike today near home on the Quilter Trail. Heard the flowers were out and putting on a magnificent display. That rumor was correct they put on a spectacular display. Hiked to the first water crossing on the quilter just before it gets serious and starts heading up hill. Headed up 1.35 mile wash about 200 yards before deciding it was going to be a wrestling match with the brush so opted not to go any further up stream. We did head down stream about .25 miles, much easier to navigate. Took an hour break where we ate lunch and worked on our sun tans. Headed back the way we came.

Mount Wrightson to the south was showing off it's snow capped peak and Rincon peak did the same. Must have been pretty cold up there because the trees maintained a snow covering the whole day. Good flow in 1.35 mile creek but not so much that it couldn't be crossed with ease. Ginny was lead hiker when she ran into a rattlesnake on the trail. I didn't hear it at first but Ginny jumped in ways I have never seen before. We stopped and took pictures. Called back to some hikers that were about 200 feet behind us and warned them of the snake. They seemed to be reluctant to come any closer. Not sure where they are from but I got the impression they thought the snake was going to chase after them. Last hike in the Tucson area for a while as we are headed to Lubbock for a few months. We will be stopping off in the Chiricahua Mountains for two days and Organ Mountains in New Mexico for 1 day, Have to get in a few more hikes before getting to Lubbock.
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Spent Easter with my daughter's family in Vale. They live close to the Loma Alta trailhead. After coffee and a pop tart (yikes) I hit the trail.
From the Loma Alta trailhead I hiked the Hope Camp trail 2.3 miles, then up the Quilter trail. I wanted to get at least as far as I got last year when I hiked this same trail. I ended up a half mile further than last year. I turned around when I saw heavy rain falling in front of Rincon Peak. Fortunately, I avoided the rain save a little sprinkle.
Highlight of the hike was the wildflower show. By far the best I've seen this year. Quilter trail is in great shape.
Chatted with a thru hiker from Vermont, then two more resting by a creek.
Awesome day on the Quilter trail. :)
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Jan 20 2024
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Rincon Valley - AZT #8Tucson, AZ
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Went back to where were last weekend to finish off AZT8, doing the north half this time from the Loma Alta TH. Andy was able to make the trip this time. Andy and Wally both have National Park passes, so we didnt have to worry about having a pass to park at the TH. It was somewhat debatable as to whether we needed a pass or not based on how the parking lot there was right on the border of the National Park, and the fact that at the end of our hike, the majority of the cars in the full lot did not have any passes.

This was a very non-eventful hike. Mostly level, easy to follow, cool weather, cloudy skies, mellow bikers, etc. I met the trail steward for this hike at a road crossing and had a nice conversation. Wally and Andy were waiting for me at our turn around point, after lunch we headed back.

The clouds were pretty constant all day, but at times the would break through just enough to need to cover a bit to prevent sunburn. Only until the last few miles did the clouds take over and the overcast skies stayed.

Nice to get this section done easily and quickly. Looking northbound at AZT9 was very daunting, especially with no options to shorten the 27 mile one way hike. Next few hikes looking southbound to the other sections towards Mexico.
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Rincon Valley - AZT #8 Arizona, AZ 
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Chris resumed his quest for the Holy Grail, oops, I mean completing the AZT and invited me to finish off the Rincon Valley section that he and Wally started the week before.

We left Gilbert about 5am and made it to the Loma Alta Trailhead just inside Saguaro NP East. Chris worked up an out and back route that connected to AZT #8 right were AZT #9h begins via Hope Camp Trail. From there, we hiked down the point on AZT #8 that he and Wally ended their southern hike last week.

We arrived just before sunrise to a mostly empty trailhead and started off. The weather was pleasant and the skies mostly cloudy. This part of the trail had a little up and down and is close to Mica Mountain ridgeline. Lots of large saguaros and wide, but empty washes.

After the little roller coaster hiking on Hope Camp and meeting up with AZT #8, the trail settled into gentle rolling hills with little elevation changes. The further from the moutain, the less saguaros and more shrubs and prickly-pear, with the occasional barrel cacti and yucca. The trail is very well maintained.

We made it to the 8.6 mile mark where Chris and Wally turned around the week before and had a little lunch before heading back.

This part of the AZT seems to be a mountain bike haven. We encountered many groups and some solo riders between the turn around and the Quilter Trail junction. After that, it was more casual hikers coming from the Loma Vista TH.

This part of the trail is not the most scenic, but the Rincon's provide a constant horizon. The weather really cooperated. Mr Sun stayed behind the cloudy skies for most of the hike. That kept the heat level down to a minimum.

I tried to keep up with Wally the Roadrunner, but as usual, he left me in the dust. I wanted to keep a steady pace and think I did fairly well in that department. The trailhead was over-flowing when we got back. Hikers mostly and a group of kids with ebikes. They did stay out very long.

Thanks for the invite Chris. It's always nice hiking with you and Wally.
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Hope Camp Plus, AZ 
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Needed a short hike so once again we headed to Camino Loma Alta trail head in Saguaro National Park. Started todays hike early about 6AM. Temps started out in the upper 50s and probably rose to in the 70s by 10. This is a nice walk but a little on the ho hum if you have done it a bunch of times. Still nice seeing the sun rise over Rincon Peak. We added a little mileage with a side trip up one of the canyons. Only saw one person who was mountain biking. No water as would be expected this time of year after a dry monsoon.
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Early morning short hike today to avoid the heat. We needed 5.5 miles to reach our goal of 80 miles for September so this hike from Comino Loma Alta on the Ruiz and Coyote Creek trail would do. Very pleasant walking along the Hope Camp Trail before sun rise. Once on the Ruiz Trail we were in the sun but the temps were comfortable. Great views over Rincon Valley from the Ruiz trail. Near the junction with the Ruiz and Coyote Creek I noticed a park trail sign that indicated Hope Camp was 2.2 miles along a trail that headed due east from this junction. I have never been on this trail and the park maps don't show it, will have to give it a try. The sign also said the park boundary was .4 miles to the west, would have to be along Comino Loma Alta. Will have to check this out also.

We finished up the northern end of Coyote Creek at about 8:30 and headed back to the start point on Comino Loma Alta. It was getting a bit warm. Can't wait for some fall weather.
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Mark and I got out early for our hike today. It was beautiful and cool out. He planned it really well for me because once it gets warmer it is difficult to carry on. We started out before sunrise and a lot of the way back we were in the shade! The wash had very few wildflowers. Otherwise the only ones were on the barrel cactus. This was not a difficult hike. We did not see any snakes. Only a few lizards on the way back when it was warmer.
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From the Loma Alta trailhead I hiked the Hope Camp trail 2.4 miles, then up the Quilter trail until my time limit, returning the same way.
Overcast skies with a few sprinkles on the way up, followed by a half an hour of rain that got me half soaked on the descent.
Beautiful trail and desert. Saw two desert tortoises! Good day. :)
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I, unknowingly at the time, left out the half mile between Hope Camp and the Quilter trail while hiking the AZT. This hike filled in that gap, adding the Ridge View trail and three short hikes with my 8 year old granddaughter. My oldest daughter has moved to Vail, only five miles from the Alta Loma trailhead.
Trails are in great shape. Easy hiking. :)
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Saguaro NP to Molino Basin, AZ 
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In support of the Arizona Trail in a Day fundraiser for the AZT, I volunteered for a segment in the middle of the Saguaro Wilderness. This meant a day walking into the starting point, and two days walking out from the finishing point. As a reminder, walking across the park requires paying a park fee or having an appropriate pass.

Hope Camp Trail
I started at the Loma Alta Trailhead of the Hope Camp Trail. There is a short section of dirt road passable by any car and good parking here. I was surprised there is no outhouse here. This is a popular weekday trailhead for people doing day hikes, apparently. Hope Camp Trail is wide and pretty flat. At about 2.3 miles I met the AZT and …

Quilter Trail
Named after Jake Quilter, an enthusiastic trailworker, who died suddenly while doing trail work. Info on him: [ John "Jake" Quilter ] . According to trail signs, Quilter Trail from Hope Camp Trail to Manning Camp Trail is 5.5 miles, although I measured it at 4.6. It’s always tough to get these right. There was good water where the trail enters the wilderness boundary, at The “Quilter Trail – 1.35mi Water Crossing”. At a signpost pointing right to the abandoned Madrona Camp, begins the …

Manning Camp Trail
Continuing northeast on the Manning Camp Trail, I encountered at seasonal stream flowing cheerfully at several gallons per minute at N 32.1787° W -110.60955°. This trail is flagged for maintenance. It looks like the park service will soon be fixing many places where the trail has become a stream. Thank you, NPS! About 2.3 miles from the Quilter Trail, there is an intersection with the Douglas Spring Trail going off to the left. This intersection is a little confusing. From here the trail heads east and south. The sky was darkening, and rumbling, and I could see I was going to get wet, so I quickened my pace a little to Grass Shack Spring Camp, arriving and getting my tent set up just as it started to rain. Note that camping here requires a paid reservation at Recreation.gov, but it is a nice camp, with good bear boxes that make great tables, and a really nice outhouse. The camp is 3 miles past the end of the Quilter Trail, or 10 miles from the Loma Alta Trailhead.

Saturday morning, I began my commitment to Arizona Trail in a Day, leaving camp around 6:15 am. In 4.6 miles, arrived at Manning Camp, another place where you could camp after making the reservation at Recreation.gov. This camp is a backcountry camp for maintenance and fire crews, and is really well appointed with faucets delivering running water, giant wood furniture, picnic tables, solar showers, cabins, covered corrals, and a propane stove that would serve dozens. It’s a puzzle to me why there isn’t a circle drawn around this place excluding it from the wilderness. No one was around. I enjoyed a hot lunch (using my own stove) at their picnic table, and then continued NE on the …

South Fire Loop Trail
You only go about 0.1 mile on this trail before it bears off to the right, with the AZT / Mica Mountain Trail continuing straight.

Mica Mountain Trail
A quarter mile up this trail, I encountered something I had never seen before, a chronolog.io photo stand. The idea here is you set your camera on the stand and take a picture, which you email to their upload site and they add it to their time lapse photo series. Unfortunately, at 8000’, my brain doesn’t work quite so good, and I am “icon-challenged” in any case, :lol: so I put my camera on the stand backwards. If you are in doubt, take pictures both ways and sort it out when you get home. At 1.5 miles from Manning Camp, I took the short detour left on…

North Fire Loop Trail
… arriving at the summit of Mica Mountain, my high point for the trip. Then back the way I came to the intersection with the Mica Mountain Trail. There is quite the trail network up here, and the trail labeling is imperfect up here, and people have scratched edits on the signs so you don’t lose the AZT. Mostly I was following my GPS, so I had no issue. I continued straight on the north Fire Loop Trail, which seems to be marked Mica Mountain Trail, past the intersection with the Bonita Trail and turning left on the…

North Slope Trail
I headed down this trail 0.6 mi to Italian Spring, which is a large grassy puddle, with good water. Just as I finished up stocking up my water and having a snack, the skies opened up with thunder and lightning and hail. Not my favorite thing on mountain ridges, but I hoped that the radio tower on Mica Mountain would be a better target than me. Hail stings on bare skin. I headed as fast as I could down…

Italian Spring Trail #95
I was much slower than a couple other parties of younger folks dashing from the storm, including an unauthorized dog, but there was no point in rushing and getting hurt. Once out of Saguaro National Park, and entering the Rincon Mountains Wilderness, I had completed my section of Arizona Trail in a Day, but I just kept walking until the rain stopped, setting up camp on a flat spot with great views.

Sunday, October 9, I was in no hurry to leave camp, and continued down the hill, with my pruning shears and saw handy. I trimmed a lot of catclaw and mesquite that was encroaching on the trail, but eventually ran out of time for this. Just before exiting the wilderness, I encountered a seasonal stream flowing vigorously, which I have added to the water sources.

Where FR 37 comes in from the left to go to Italian Trap Tank, there is a wide sandy wash flowing that had to be forded, but never more than an inch or two deep. I’m confused as to whether this is the beginning of the Italian Spring Trail or if Italian Spring Trail #95 begins at Reddington Road and follows the alignment of the AZT. Even the Far Out app shows this location as the transition from AZT Passage 9 to Passage 10, while the AZ Trail webpage shows the dividing line at Reddington Road.

From here it was clear I would have to push to get to my intended camp at The Lake where the trail crosses Bellota Road. I picked up a gallon of water I had cached at Reddington Road and pressed on the …

Bellota Trail #15
The hike through the rolling meadows of the Reddington Pass area is beautiful, and far different from the high rocky wilderness to the south. I watched numerous storms meandering through the area, but none hit me. A lot of target shooting goes on in the area, and even after dark :scared: . I wished I was wearing my orange hunting season hiking gear as I walked along the ridge top. I arrived at The Lake just before 6 pm, set up my tent, and had dinner in the dark. A great horned owl serenaded me all evening. As I sat there, a helicopter and fixed wing plane came in and circled for about 20 minutes, looking in the dark for who knows what?

Monday morning, I was walking toward Molino Basin at first light. It is nice rolling country, and I watched the moon set and the sun rise as I went. Took a long break at West Spring, and then made the thousand foot climb up over the pass to Molino Basin.
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Flowing at gallons per minute of clear, cool water.

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Flowing at gallons per minute across trail.

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The stream flows vigorously through the camp, by all the campsites.

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Pretty pool of water in the grass. Good source.

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I collected water at the faucet at the cabin. There was water everywhere.

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Lots of water flowing in the ravine today, just where the Quilter Trail crosses into the wilderness.

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Plenty of water in the Lake, although I did not check it out for drinking quality.

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There was good water in a pool at the spring.
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Ginny and I needed a short early morning hike near home so we chose the Hope Camp Trail. We have done this multiple times before but doing it again during the monsoon is never a bad idea. We started at 6:30 and finished by 9:00. It was not real hot but boy was it muggy. Three of the creeks that cross the trail were still running from the night before rain. With the exception of 3 park rangers, one on foot and the other two on bikes the trail was empty. We did not go all the way to Rincon Creek so I'm not sure it was flowing but it probably was. Rincon Creek at Comino Loma Alta near the trail head was flowing last night but aside from pools was not running. The desert is green and plush and the ocotillo were wearing there green leaves.
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Feb 18 2022
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Quilter Trail, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Feb 18 2022
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Hiking14.26 Miles 2,245 AEG
Hiking14.26 Miles   5 Hrs   50 Mns   2.58 mph
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I wanted to get out for some hiking but didn't feel like driving far from home so I headed across the street and did the quilter Trail. My plan was to take the Quilter to Madrona Ranger Station and return the same way for a total of almost 19 miles. I wanted to see if I still had a 20 miler left in me. I didn't get started until 10 so I opted to just do the quilter and return. This is a repeat of a trail I have done multiple times so there were no surprises. The scenery along this trail is so so but enhanced by the really clear skies. Lots of healthy saguaros.

One major creek crossing, unnamed creek, there was a trickle of water and some pools. at about 3.5 miles in at the creek crossing the trail starts climbing and for the next 1.5 miles you climb the majority of the 2300 feet of AEG. The trail is in excellent condition so the going was fairly easy as indicated by my average speed going in of 2.7 MPH. I also didn't feel a need for a break until I was 10 miles in on the hike back at the one stream crossing.

Multiple groups of people on the Hope Camp Trail but only two parties on the Quilter. One of those parties was a group of three doing the Arizona Trail, they started on February 2. The other two hikers were doing what I was doing. I arrived at the junction with the Manning Camp and Madrona Ranger Station trail took a photo and headed back. I felt really good and with more time (need to get my butt outa bed earlier) I felt I could do the 2 more miles to Madrona and return.
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Nov 20 2021
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Loma Alta Trailhead to Grass Shack, AZ 
Loma Alta Trailhead to Grass Shack, AZ
 
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Backpack19.80 Miles 3,643 AEG
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Started at the Loma Alta trailhead around 10am on the Hope Camp trail, making my way to Grass Shack campground for a 1-nighter. Hope Camp is essentially a dirt road, also used for horseback riding and mountain biking (had to keep an eye out for bikers on my return trip!). Not much net elevation gain here.

After 2.3 miles by the sign, I turned north onto the Quilter trail. This section begins with a lazy winding route through some grasses, approaching the base of the mountains. Ran into a very nice AZT thru-hiker at a dry riverbed crossing. The trail gains about 1200 feet after this point, then holds mostly level around 4300 feet until the intersection with Manning Camp. This section of the hike offers a very nice south-facing view of SNP East, which lasts for several miles and includes several opportune spots to take a breather.

7.8 miles from the trailhead, you reach the Manning Camp trailhead, which will take you the rest of the way to Grass Shack. This trail gains about another 1200 feet to the campsite. Grass Shack is about 200 feet below the maximum elevation of the trail, which will warm you up nicely in the morning if you choose to return along the same route.

Grass Shack offers three campsites which must be reserved through the National Park Service. I had reserved my site through the proper channels a few days earlier, and arrived around 3pm. Several more groups and a few AZT thru-hikers arrived later in the afternoon. Fairly certain there were more groups at the site than technically permitted, but they were respectful of the area so it didn't feel crowded.

The facilities were as well maintained as one can expect ten miles into the park. The convenience of the outhouse was greatly appreciated, and I was pleased to find water near the site that could be filtered for drinking and cooking. I'm no ultralighter, so had I carried two gallons of water in with me just to be safe. As of November 2021, campfires aren't allowed at Grass Shack, so be sure to bring a camp stove if you'd like to cook.

The bear box at campsite 1 is a bit busted. The latch was caught in the up position when I arrived, but the door was still locked shut. Some handy tent stakes left under the bear box by previous hikers (no doubt for exactly this purpose) allowed me to lever it loose. If you close the door GENTLY, the latch won't 'jump' as it is closed and will stay securely in the down and locked position.

The next morning, I retraced my route backwards to the Loma Alta trailhead. All in all a very nice trip.

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Some still pools of water just south of the Grass Shack campsite. Was fine to drink with a filter.
 
Apr 17 2021
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Loma Alta to Miller Creek, AZ 
Loma Alta to Miller Creek, AZ
 
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Run/Jog22.85 Miles 5,064 AEG
Run/Jog22.85 Miles   6 Hrs   45 Mns   3.56 mph
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Relatively cool weather this weekend suggested I should try one of the lower-elevation routes I had been wanting to do for awhile, a point-to-point from Loma Alta to Miller Creek. The main goal here was to see (a) the abandoned Madrona Ranger Station, and (b) the hard to access lower/middle part of the Rincon Creek trail.

Wasn't totally excited about Quilter Trail, but the cactus blossoms were a nice, unexpected treat. All the cacti and ocotillos were in full bloom. Manning Camp trail down to the ranger station was fun, and really the only part of the day where we could really cruise without effort. Someone has done a lot of work on this trail that seems to mainly be used by equestrians now.

The ranger station was - as expected - abandoned. Chiminea Creek upstream from the trail crossing had some nice pools with a little bit of flow, and was a nice place to cool off and top off water supplies.

The first couple miles of Rincon Creek trail are uneventful, and the fun starts at Rincon Creek (which is mostly dry right now, but had a cool stagnant pool at the crossing that served well for cooling). That narrow stretch of the canyon would be cool to see when there's water. The climb itself was a grind, but probably wouldn't have been too bad had it not been for the 13 mile long approach. The wind made it a much more pleasant experience.

Once in the tall pines of Happy Valley Saddle, temperatures were nice and pleasant. The canyon that drains Happy Valley Saddle had some pools about half a mile down from the Rincon Peak junction, which could be useful information for camping. Could've spent all day sitting there, but beer awaited. Miller Creek trail was chunky as usual, but mostly shaded and pleasant.

Glad I got this one done; probably won't do again. As of this writing, I think I only have about 4.5 miles of official trail left to see in the Rincons...
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Applies only to cacti and ocotillos, which were putting on a show.

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Some flow through the pools upstream from ranger station.

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Dry at Rincon Creek trail


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Pools here and there in both forks, could be some flow in one stretch of the fork south of Rincon Creek trail. Still a decent pool at the trail crossing at the bottom.
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