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Now is a great time to visit the Clear Creek zone. All the falls are running including the ever elusive Cheyava! But the water level is dropping fast so go sooner rather than later... It will take me forever to edit the 484 photos I took with my camera so I’ll just add a few phone snaps here.

Day 1 - South Kaibab to Clear creek camping area
With 5 day packs - ugh, what a slog. We took the last hiker shuttle from the BIC at 7am and got to clear creek at ~7:30pm. A long break at Phantom and two lunch beers were a terrible (but also great) idea. Flowers are blooming like crazy. Saw a cute lizard on the big cairns at sumner point and a GC pink right alongside the trail a couple miles from camp. The first rattlesnake I've seen in >20 years and I came within inches of stabbing it with my trekking pole! No water/potholes along the clear creek trail.

Day 2 - Cheyava falls
Apparently rangers had/have been warning hikers against crossing clear creek but that was not the message I got... when I visited the BIC on Tues to check for updates, the ranger confirmed that the falls were running and suggested "tight slippers" for the creek crossings :-k My knock-off crocs were fine. The water was fast but not that deep (just above the knee at worst & I am only 5'4") and all crossings were doable. Poles required for me though. The first three crossings were hardest and the rest (10+) were pretty trivial. Cairns are a little scarce as the trail approaches the falls and it gets a bit hard to follow. But the side canyon that heads to Cheyava is so pretty and the falls were GUSHING. Spectacular!! We forgot to look for the ruins south of cheyava but checked out the Obi granaries on the way there and Gila pueblo on the way back to camp.

Day 3 - Ariel and Obi
Back across clear creek and up the wet arm. Many more creek crossings required and a few looked scary but they were all fine. Met another hiker and traded info; we told him about Ariel falls and he told us about some ruins he found. After lunch at the base of the falls we climbed to the top to see if we could find a high route over to the ruins (maybe possible, but didn't seem worth it; the slopes are steepish, plus snakes.) So we retraced our steps a ways and climbed back up to them. Found a nice big pottery sherd as well as a few more ruins that the other hiker hadn't mentioned. On the way out of this canyon we saw another large black and yellow snake hanging over the creek getting a drink - a very strange sight! On the way back to camp we took the short stroll up Obi to the pouroff there which is also running and quite pretty.

Day 4 - East clear creek
This was supposed to be a quick morning walk before starting the hike out but turned into a half day side trip because the canyon is so cool. Towering walls, a huge agave roasting pit and other detritus of ancient puebloans, tapeats narrows, a slabby watercourse with tons of pour offs and pools, amazing views of wotans throne, angels gate, Thor temple and other stuff! We were disappointed that we had to turn around where the canyon splits. Definitely a place worthy of more exploration. Packed up and hoofed it to camp at sumner point. Saw another pink on the trail.

Day 5 - Sumner point to south rim via BA
I had never been on the BA below havasupai gardens. It’s a nice section of trail so I’m glad we did it, but the mass of humanity was kind of overwhelming after visiting more remote parts of the canyon, as usual. I offended some young punk - er, guy - by suggesting he try headphones instead of blasting me with his goofy death metal :lol:
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I timed my visit to Cheyava perfectly - it's booming! We also took the opportunity to explore other arms of Clear Creek, although some side-trips were foiled by the sheer volume of water. Clear and Bright Angel creeks are high and brown with all the snowmelt. I didn't consider it beforehand, but of course Clear Creek is high when Cheyava is flowing.

On Thursday we started down South Kaibab at sunrise. It was an unusual, beautiful sunrise - there were clouds to the west, making the canyon look dark there, while it looked whitewashed to the east. We reached the river within two hours then had a good break at Phantom Ranch. It was still overcast so we didn't bake on Tonto. I wanted to try an alternate approach to the main camps in Clear Creek by dropping into Zoroaster Canyon, contouring around, and descending near the mouth of Clear Creek. The scrambling was fun, route-finding straightforward, and the bed of Zoro has nice smooth granite pouroffs (with some green potholes - curious whether these last). But when we looked down on Clear Creek we realized, like Bright Angel, it's hardly it's normal meek gurgling self this month. I don't know if lower Clear Creek has narrows but we didn't want to back ourselves into any sketchy fords so we retreated to the trail via another easy break in the Tapeats. At camp we met other hikers who had turned around early on their attempt to reach the river, although they seemed to have a lower risk tolerance.

On Friday we made the hike up to Cheyava. This seemed slower than usual because we had to select our creek crossings carefully and push through brush whenever we left the main use trail. I think about half of the water in that canyon is coming from the Cheyava arm, half from below Ariel Point. We finally turned a corner and saw Cheyava pouring out of the cliffs a mile ahead. How exciting! The brush seems thicker close to the fall but we found a large flat-topped limestone boulder with a good view and lounged for a few hours. I scrambled up to the base of the redwall below Cheyava, where I thought I saw some perfect little rectangle outlines, but there was nothing there. The wind would blow and the whole waterfall would drift into different cracks and some side falls would turn brown with fresh rockfall. On our return to camp we detoured a short ways up the arm towards Ariel Point. The water here is in a narrow channel so the creek was deep and fast and crossings were unpleasant.

On Saturday we had a leisurely hike up the east arm with no specific objectives. This stream was braided in places, like a great glacial river. I think it was contributing about 1/3 of the water to lower Clear Creek. I found a roasting pit and two buck skulls with antlers intact. The Quartzite and Tapeats narrows were pretty, but also more tedious with the high water. We continued up the two wetter arms in the Bright Angel Shale where we found lots of nice little pouroffs. I investigated (and removed) some cairns which seemed to indicate the best way to the Angel's Gate saddle.

I starteda few hours after my friend for the hike out on Sunday and ran into some interesting folks on the trail. I'm surprised by how many people we met had plans to visit Cheyava and how few actually did - we were the only ones up there in at least three days, and there was just one woman who seemed likely to visit after us. On Tonto, I nearly stepped on a gopher snake stretched across the trail. I didn't start up South Kaibab until after 12:30 on this somewhat hot, sunny day. That's okay though - I know the best shady alcoves and took deliberate breaks. The lower trail was quiet in the heat but there was lots of traffic up top.

Spring has finally sprung! The redbuds and sego lillies are blooming, agave and yucca are sending up stalks, and beavertail and prickly pears are just starting to open buds.
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Solo trip upstream Clear Creek before hiking over to Sumner Wash. The main falls were expectedly dry.
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Sumi, who organized our great 2019 GC trip, snagged these permits last year and the memory of hard parts of that last trip had dimmed enough that I jumped at the chance.
Participants were Sumi, her son Aidan, Rebecca and Katherine. We’ve hiked some 14ers with Rebecca in CO over the years. Katherine lives in Grand Canyon Village and one of her photos has been on the National Parks Pass. I wish I could have posted her photos instead of mine.
Day 1 – South Kaibab through Phantom Ranch, Clear Creek Trail to Sumner Wash
Despite snow the day before, it was clear and warm from the start. The shuttle was crowded with dayhikers, but the trail much less so. We had it pretty much to ourselves after O’Neill Butte. The only exception was mule station at the Tip-off. Somewhat before we had passed a freshly euthanized, tarp-covered mule and the wranglers were grim and tense.
Another train passed as we crossed the Black Bridge in the blazing sun. After napping at the trail junction while the rest caught up, we hung out in the shade at Phantom Ranch to wait out the heat. We eventually cooked dinner there to haul less weight back up to the Tonto.
The climb up the other side was a slog. Fortunately, the late afternoon views were a welcome distraction. I was asleep for the night about 45 minutes after reaching Sumner Wash.
Day 2 – Sumner Wash to Clear Creek
This was a shorter day in theory, but warm. The classic Tonto in-and-out and up-and-down in bright sun would have been tough if not for a few well-placed shady spots behind boulders. The descent into Clear Creek on the red scree slope was relentless, too, so the riparian campsites at the end were a big relief.
We set up tents under quickly gathering clouds and light rain commenced just as we finished. We all napped until it was over and started on dinner. Around that time, we met the only other party there, a family from Colorado with young kids returning from a day hike. A bit more rain fell and I was asleep before dark.
Day 3 – Dayhike to Cheyava Falls
The first and last miles each way were poky, scratchy bushwhacks with a handful of stream crossings. The route in between was more trail-ish with some classic filtered sunlight views. Cheyava Falls itself wasn’t running but, another quite impressive falls was running nearby and we stopped for a nice lunch.
Back at Clear Creek, everyone collected water, a bit less tired than the previous nights. We learned at dinner that nobody was looking forward to climbing back up the scree slope onto the Tonto. Once again, I was asleep before dark.
Day 4 – Clear Creek to Phantom Ranch
We knew the sun would shine early on the climb out, so Rebecca and Katherine left at the crack of dawn, with me in the middle a bit later. I put my head down and powered out as fast as possible. I got out quick, but the heat was already building on the Tonto. I pushed hard to Sumner Wash, which was pretty well baked by then. It was a slog from there down to the Ranch.
I dumped my pack at the nearest picnic table and saw Katherine and Rebecca drinking lemonade and eating potato chips in the shade. It was cheating, but I committed a similar retail transaction (twice) before Sumi and Aidan trudged in.
The thermometer read 87F by then. The Ranch was jammed with ultrarunners on the final leg of their Saturday rim-to-rim-to-rim, and they were suffering. One of them was Katherine’s husband, whose appearance was a total surprise. We lolled a couple more hours in the shade and changed venue to the campground. I waded in the creek, ate dinner, and was asleep again before dark.
Day 5 – Dayhike to Ribbon Falls
Rebecca and Catherine left before the crack of dawn again to beat the crowds to the falls. Sumi opted for a rest day, so Aidan and I followed them at a departure time more normal for someone 23 years old. However, we also followed at a 23-year old pace, reaching the crossing to Ribbon Falls (where our buddies had recently started waiting) in an hour and 50 minutes, .
We crossed easily and spent at least three hours enjoying the splendor of this cool oasis. Amazingly, only a few other groups stopped by in that time and none stayed long.
The trip back in wet boots was slower and much hotter, but there was a treat to look forward to. Many months ago, Sumi had scored dinner reservations at the canteen. Not only was it real food, it was food we didn’t have to carry. It was a lot of food, though. Except for Aidan, we could hardly finish it. I guess riding mules gives you bigger appetite.
We waddled back to the campground and watched the stars turn to clouds. I reluctantly pulled my tent out of the stuff sack, but only used it as a blanket during a few minutes of rain.
Day 6 – Out
Rebecca and Katherine unsurprisingly left at the crack of dawn. I was next, with Sumi and Aidan a way behind. I allowed myself one long glance at the distant rim. The sky was clear and bright from very early and I thought of nothing but getting out as fast as possible. It was bright but still cool when the Devil’s Corkscrew rose to slow me down. I pressed on to Indian Garden for my first break. A downhill mule ride arrived at the same time and blocked me from the water, and an uphill ride did the same. I guess backpackers go last here. I battled the squirrels constantly while trying to snack. One even hissed at me when I flung it off my leg with a hiking pole.
I broke further only near the 3 Mile and 1 ½ Mile Rest Houses, which were increasingly clogged with dayhikers. They weren’t much impediment and not the yahoos I remembered, though many lacked enough water, perhaps ignoring the many signs about the water being off. As the ascent wore on, it brought cooler air that kept me going. I emerged still quite mobile after 5:30 of hiking time (1:30 of breaks).

Sumi and Aidan topped out ninety minutes later and before long we were enjoying end-of-the-trip burgers at Yavapai Tavern. It wasn’t quite the pre-pandemic El Tovar feast after our Confluence/Escalante trip, but it was mighty satisfying. I was asleep not long after dark.
Coda
After the others left, I lingered the next morning on the Rim, walking from Kolb Studio to Mather Point and back. My constant hill workouts really paid off, since I didn’t have even a hint of soreness, although I was moving slower than usual. Unfortunately, it was time to go back to real life.
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This one has been on my radar for a few years. Hiked to Clear Creek from BA trailhead; the first few miles were a bit icy but nothing too crazy. Temps were awesome on Saturday. Took it easy most of the day, but we saw another group coming up behind us so my competitive streak kicked in the last four miles or so. Got to camp, set up, drank lots of whiskey.

Lazy 10am start on Sunday; headed upstream and found the ruins. Cool spot. A half mile or so after that the creek dried up, and stayed that way for a mile or two. More vegetation as the creek flow resumed, and before too long, we saw the big white streak on the canyon walls where the waterfall would be if it were flowing. We were just about to head back down, but I poked around a bit further and saw there was a flowing waterfall just around the corner, so we checked that out. Some topo maps incorrectly have this as the location of Cheyava Falls, so I'm sure many a party has been here thinking they saw Cheyava Falls with water. It was a cool series of waterfalls nonetheless, and well worth the visit. Headed back down drank more whiskey.

I took the 8am late start Monday morning, and with my pack a couple beers lighter, made good time. Much hotter than Saturday; going up BA was a bit rough, but pushed pretty hard and managed to get to the rim by 3:40PM, which actually made the hike out almost an hour faster than the hike in.

Definitely want to go back and explore that area more, especially since it's such a nice camping area.
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Down S. Kaibab, across Clear Creek Trail, then bushwhack to the base of Cheyava Falls. Clear Creek was running higher and browner than usual. Had to walk through it quite a few times. Returned to the rim via Bright Angel Trail. There was a large rock slide along the River Trail last week but NPS already cleared it.
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Day 1 - Bright Angel TH to Bright Angel CG

We left Phoenix early this morning to get to the Grand Canyon. We stopped in Flagstaff for breakfast at The Place, then continued the drive. After a quick stop at the backcountry office, we were able to park the car very close to the Bright Angel TH. While we were getting ready to start the hike, the storm hit and the snow flurries began.

It was about 11 and snowing fairly hard when we started down into the canyon. After we dropped below the rim, the wind died down and I pulled out my umbrella to help keep me dry. Many people commented on what a great idea it was to have it.

Most of the tread on my shoes is worn off and I was slipping all over the muddy trail. I was able to stay upright but there were several times where I nearly covered my butt with mud.

When we got to Indian Gardens, we went into the campground and stopped under a ramada for lunch. The rain finally stopped when we got going again and we soon put the rain gear away.

Maybe a mile below Indian gardens, we reached where Garden Creek drops into a slot canyon. Some of the guys were planning on canyoneering down it, but with the rain and colder weather it was decided to stash the ropes and stuff at the drop off point and hope for a warm and nice weather day on our way out.

As we approached where the trail first crosses Pipe Creek, there was a lady blocking our passage along the trail. A few ladies just had to pee and didn't realize there was a rest stop not much farther along the trail. Well we made our way by and then we stopped at the Pipe Creek rest house to sign the register and a few minutes later when the ladies came down the trail and saw the outhouse, everyone had a good laugh.

One of our group was having problems so we waited for him to catch up. He was okay, just moving slow so we continued on and he'd catch up to us at the campground. I got a bit behind the others taking pictures so when I reached the campground, I found the site they dropped their gear at, dropped mine, and continued to the Phantom Ranch canteen. I arrived 30 seconds before four so I just missed a beer but the others had arrived about five minutes earlier and where able to slam one down just before closing.

We all headed back to the campsite and set things up. Ranger Della stopped by and checked our permit and we had a pretty lively conversation for quite some time. She commented about proper headlamp etiquette in the crowded campground - keep the light around your neck or low so as not to shine it in others' faces and other things like not hanging socks on the foliage, keeping food stored properly, etc. She also mentioned there were some ammo cans behind the ranger station we could stash food and stuff in that we wouldn't need while at Clear Creek.

A bit before eight, we headed to the canteen but we got stuck behind several people that left the ranger program. That made the wait for beer a bit difficult. Dang! Time flew by and before we knew it, it was ten and we were being kicked out. Back to camp for the night.

Day 2 - Bright Angel CG to Clear Creek CG

I woke up with a headache. What's with that? By the time we broke camp, stashed our garbage and the food for our return, and filled up with water at Phantom Ranch, it was about eight by the time we were on the trail. It was easy walking until the climbing started almost immediately after turning onto Clear Creek Trail. We waited at the first bench for one member of our group before continuing up to another bench where there were actually benches to sit on. There was also a really great view of Phantom Ranch well below us. We continued up and there was a great view of South Kaibab and the black bridge, where a pack mule train was crossing. We continued up and finally made it onto the Tonto Plateau. The climb seemed longer than I remembered it but that seems to always be the case doesn't it?

We just cruised along today, stopping for a short rest break every now and again. We weren't in a hurry as our plan was just to get to Clear Creek CG. We eventually dropped off the plateau into the Clear Creek drainage. There was a group at the first campsites so we went a short distance farther and found a nice site to set up camp at. I think it was about half past noon.

We had lunch and then we all ended up taking a nice long nap. Finally we set up camp but just chilled for the rest of the afternoon and enjoyed some spirits in the evening.

Day 3 - Clear Creek CG towards Cheyava Falls and Back

Sometime this morning it started raining. I was in no hurry to get up and just laid in the tent for awhile until I heard others stirring. Finally I got up and it was still raining so we set up some tarps to hang out under during the rain. Sometime in the morning, I went back in the tent and napped.

The rain started to lighten up during lunch and finally stopped so we decided to head upstream and check out the ruins, then head towards Cheyava Falls. It was about half past one when we left and we arrived at the ruins around two. We spent at least a half hour exploring before we continued towards the falls. We weren't sure how far they were so we decided to head towards them for an hour and decide whether to continue or not then. By then, it was around three thirty and there was a lot of thunder and the rain was starting to come down hard. It appeared we still had a ways to go to reach the falls so we decided it was best to head back to camp. I already had my umbrella but I put on my rain skirt before we turned around; I didn't want my shorts to get wet.

The rain continued pouring all the way back to camp and my feet got soaked from walking through all the grass. It was close to five when we reached camp. I put on some more layers but didn't have any dry footwear to change into.

We had dinner and finished the rest of the booze we had. That seemed better than carrying it back to Bright Angel CG. The rain continued most of the evening but lightened up, then stopped by the time we turned in for the night.

Day 4 - Clear Creek CG to Bright Angel CG

It rained a little bit during the night, but not much. We weren't in a hurry this morning and took our time breaking camp. About 8:00, a trail runner came into camp and asked where he was. He meant to go R2R2R but took the turn to Clear Creek instead of heading up the North Kaibab trail. Oops. ](*,)

I think we got going around half past eight. After the steep climb up to the Tonto Plateau, we cruised along enjoying the morning. There were some newly opened flowers, but most had been pelted during yesterday's rain.

We arrived at Phantom Ranch about 12:30 and stopped for a beer before heading to the campground and setting up camp and having lunch. We mostly lazed around in the afternoon but went to the river and looked around a bit too.

Ranger Della stopped by and we had a fun chat with her. I purposely wore my headlamp on my head but she never mentioned it. We found out she had to tase and arrest a belligerent drunk a few years ago at Indian Gardens. It turns out that one of our group was there. No, he wasn't the belligerent drunk.

We went to listen to the Ranger program, mostly to be nearer to the canteen for it's 8:00 PM opening. Once eight rolled around, we left the program early and went to get beers. We played cribbage and some Cards Against Humanity and closed the place down before heading back to camp and calling it a night.

Day 5 - Bright Angel Campground to Bright Angel TH

We got up and broke camp. The one guy that had been struggling some headed out a bit past seven. Shortly after two of us went to discuss some things with, and say goodbye to Ranger Della. Another left camp and I headed out shortly after that and was on the trail around half past seven.

Around eight, I reached where Garden Creek meets Pipe Creek and the guy that left just before me was there checking out the water temperature. The guys previously decided it wouldn't be a good time for canyoneering down Garden Creek, but they still wanted to check out the end and see what it was like. We dropped our packs and climbed up the creek as far as we were able. Some people that were in the canteen last night saw us and followed us up too. The two Ranger Della groupies also came up. I think we hung out at Garden Creek for about an hour before we continued hiking out.

We made it back up to where we stashed the climbing gear and retrieved it, then continued on to Indian Gardens where we had a snack and got some water for the rest of the hike up the canyon. When I reached the three mile rest stop, I had a quick snack and drink before continuing. I felt pretty good and was hoping to reach the 1.5 mile rest stop in forty minutes. I ended up reaching it in 32. We took another break there and had some more food and drink before finishing the hike up to the rim. I made it out and to the car at quarter of one.

The day was cool but nice. It was sunny and quite the contrast to the snow flurry when we started. We had our celebratory beers and changed our clothes before heading back to Phoenix.
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The cacti were blooming, especially along Clear Creek trail. Various types of prickly pear were in bloom, along with hedge hog cactus. there were some other flowers blooming too.
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Nearly 20 years to the day from my first Grand Canyon backpacking adventure, I led an aggressive trip that took three of us about three days and three hours in a quest to see Cheyava Falls. Planning for the possibility of just the perfect conditions to see the falls running, the permit request was placed and El Nino prayers were said. Sadly, Arizona got anything but the wet conditions that might lead to Cheyava flowing this past winter, but with permit secured and PTO lined up, we went to see Clear Creek anyway.

Day 1: There were clouds. There were cool temps and winds that made hiking across the often mercilessly exposed Clear Creek Trail quite pleasant. There was rain, and there were garbage bags fashioned into pack covers that flapped in the wind and gave us some concern but did the job. There was a long day and tired feet, but we were well-rewarded for our efforts.

Clear Creek is beautiful. What's more serene than the solitude of the desert? Water coursing over sand and stone, supporting the rare oases of life known as riparian areas. This is stunning. This is worth hiking over 16 miles in a day to see and hear and smell and feel.

Day 2: The whole point of the trek was to venture up Clear Creek to check out Cheyava Falls, and we spent the second day of our adventure traveling up the creek, seeing artifacts of ancient peoples and confirming that the white swath coming down the rock wall is where Cheyava Falls would be falling if a heavy late snow would have been quickly melted by warm temps and we happened to time things just right. At least we learned where to find the site of the tallest falls in Arizona.

Returning to camp at Clear Creek CG, a side trip up Obi Canyon delighted us with a short easy jaunt to the pour off waterfall at the back of the drainage. We missed the ruins, but now have a better idea of where to see them (plural, as I now understand it!). Chert scrapers and tools found along the creek trail reminded us of those who came before and eked out an existence in that beautiful but hard place.

Day 3: Simply put, we cranked out the miles retracing our steps across Clear Creek Trail, again with the help of clouds, wind and the occasional rain. At Phantom Ranch we had beers and lemmy, threw out the M&Ms we bought on the way in that were half eaten by the sly mice at Clear Creek CG, and bought new M&Ms.

From the ranch we made the familiar crossing of the Silver Bridge, and enjoyed unusually firm soil on the River trail. Even Bright Angel Tr was crusted over with a damp layer that kept our feet relatively clean. We made Indian Garden CG just as the sky opened up and really let us have it for the first time on the entire trip. We wiled away an hour or so under a ramada, eating chocolate, running a line to hang our packs out of the rain and marveling at the 4G signal that my Verizon phone was getting. No Plateau Point that rainy night.

Day 4: Just over two hours on the trail this day. Bright Angel, the Devil's Corkscrew, bright colors of new shoes and clean clothing, loud children, families, foreign tongues, the sounds and smells of cars and buses. A growler of Railhead Red was still plenty cold in the cooler when we got back to the car, and the showers at Mather were every bit as hot and good as we hoped. Burgers at Lumberyard in Flagstaff, a fill-up, a Coke for the road (sorry, it's a habit), and we were gliding back down the highway to Phoenix. Another Grand adventure in the bag!

Sorry, have yet to finish downloading pics. Stay tuned! Also seemed to be challenged as to attaching the handful of routes uploaded from this trip. Workin' on it...
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Saturday: Hiked down South Kaibab then took the Clear Creek Trail over to CC. Light rain on/off all day.

Sunday: Hiked up to Cheyava Falls (dry) and a little beyond. Checked out some other side canyons and did a little bit of exploring. Light rain at times.

Monday: Hiked out from CC. Rain in the morning. Sunny and hot by the time we got to Phantom Ranch. Hiked out Bright Angel.
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I finished November in the exact way I started the month, climbing out of the Grand Canyon. Karl myself and John headed to the Clear Creek area for four days.

Day 1:

We did not rush out of town on Thanksgiving day. I had to drop the dogs off, Karl was feeling a little under the weather and there was no reason to rush to the Canyon, as we had lined up a short opening day and were not stressing the after ten start time. The highlight of day one was the Miner's route and Tamales at Phantom Ranch. I found the Miner's Route to be pretty cool and was happy I decided to make the short detour with John. We met Karl at Phantom for a long lunch and then headed for the Clear Creek Trail. We camped at Sumner's Creek area, the starting point for Brahma, were treated to a great sunset and were probably all in bed by 8:30 p.m.

Day 2

I woke up thinking Karl and I were heading off for a Brahma attempt, but it was very clear from the start he was in no shape for that, his flu/cold effects were still lingering. I was excited to give Brahma a shot and was happy to have Karl along because of his experience, but it was evident that we just needed to get him to Clear Creek where he could relax for nearly two days if he wanted to. The hike to Clear Creek was great, seemed to go by pretty quickly. John and I explored up Clear Creek while Karl stayed back at camp. We located the well known set of Indian ruins, and I snapped a picture of the less visited site near Cheyava Falls(which were dry as expected). The ruins were in the exact location mentioned in Butchart's book, however, without positive identification I was not ready for the commitment to explore further, but upon review of picture it is definitely them. Therefore, I will be returning. We enjoyed a nice couple of hours under the party lights, a slightly warmer night and a good night's sleep.

Day 3

I got the crazy idea of getting up early and heading back to Brahma for at least a quick recon, then dry camping Saturday evening and enjoying a shorter hike out Sunday. Karl, although not looking the greatest, thought he might be up for at least a trip to the break in the red wall and John was actually good with the plan. He would stay at Clear Creek for most of the morning exploring some side canyons and then meet us back at the Sumner Creek/wash area later in the afternoon. So Karl and I headed back to Brahma a day later and with a little bit more of a time crunch. Clear Creek Trail can seem to drag on a little, but the first section climbing out of Clear Creek or dropping into Clear Creek is a real gem and I really enjoyed the trail and area overall.

Even with moving camps and Karl battling the Ebola we were still staring at the base of the first climb within the distinct crack of the red wall just afternoon. However, I kind of sealed the fate for the rest of the day by wasting nearly 45 minutes looking for a climbing route right up the center of the crack. I literally made three different attempts. Karl watched and yelled out occasional tips, but nothing about it made sense to me. Joe said it was tricky but nothing crazy and I found myself in what I would call a "crazy" position. In fact, my fight or flight kicked in and left me worthless for a good ten minutes, but I jumped right back up and gave it another shot before I accepted defeat. We then hung out in the remaining shade ate some lunch, I was pining a bit about what the whole situation, but we both agreed to head back. About 30 feet into our hike back, Karl and I almost simultaneously noticed a distinct cairn on our left and then what looked to be a great route up. Duh! The route was clear as day. Rather then dwell over the several mistakes I had just made and the easy ways I could have avoided them, I just shot up the route. There was rope secured in a few spots along the way, but obviously not necessary, as one was tightly secured making it unusable from below. I found the climbing and scrambling to be fairly easy, especially, after having tried to free climb up the pour over area in the beginning. It felt so great to reach the top of that little break, the views from the saddle were truly breathtaking and it was a very exhilarating experience for me overall. A modest feat to many, but a very satisfying experience for myself. From there I continued on route and decided to go until a 2:30 or 3:00 p.m. drop dead time. I realized quickly that the first little climb through the break hardly means you are there. I was on and off the route and generally rushing too much, along with probably climbing too much, the latter further reinforcing that I should just head back and call it a successful recon, which I did. Besides I had kind of irresponsibly left Karl behind in the crack and just yelled down that I would turn around by 3, about half way up the second climb I heard him yelling from saddle area that he would wait for me. I was starting to feel like I was holding the guy hostage and I knew he was not feeling well so I headed back. I assured Karl that I was good to go from the saddle and he could return to camp. Meanwhile, I headed out towards Sumner Butte and tested my mettle a little on the narrow land bridge connecting it to the larger terrain features. Returned to camp, Karl was there, John was there and all was good.

Day 4:

Living by the old adage that men walk quicker out of battle then into battle we all made great time out Sunday morning. Even with a stop at Phantom Ranch I don't think anyone took longer then 4.5 hours to reach S. Rim and vehicle.

This was just another very satisfying Canyon trip, great company and a great destination. I feel the bug for the canyon even more now after my modest first ascent up just a crack in the wall. But I gained some good experience, got a much better understanding of the area and feel pretty good about knocking it out completely with more time and planning.
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It was another memorable trip into my beloved Grand Canyon! Lee, Karl and I spent four days backpacking along the Clear Creek Trail. We had nice weather overall and made good use of our time.

Day 1 - November 27, 2014
The three of left Phoenix around 6am and drove up to the south rim. We dumped Lee’s car at the South Kaibab parking area and headed down the SK Trail starting around 10am. We made good time and cruised down to the Tipoff. At that point Lee and I decided to hike the Miner’s Route. Karl was feeling under the weather and would meet us at Phantom Ranch.

This was my second time on the Miner’s Route and it was quite a ride. The footing is very loose and off camber and a full pack doesn’t make things easier. We were able to slowly follow the route as it zigzagged down and both of us had no issues. We arrived on the River Trail and it was smooth sailing to Phantom Ranch.

We met Karl at the canteen and the three of us loaded up on water and then started up the Clear Creek Trail prepared for a dry camp. The trail gains over a thousand feet in the first two miles as you hike beneath the Tapeats and the Great Unconformity. We arrived at the two mile point and found some campers there so we continued the half mile to Sumner Wash and found plenty of good camping there. We set up camp and settled in for the evening. The sun set around 5:20pm and it was dark by 6pm. It got very cold and I was a little worried for the rest of the trip. We all headed for our tents before 8pm. Luckily this night was by far the coldest of the three nights.

Day 2 – November 28, 2014
We woke on Friday morning and took our time breaking down camp. Lee and Karl had plans to hit Brahma but Karl wasn’t feeling up to it due to being under the weather. The three of headed east on the Clear Creek Trail and dropped down to Clear Creek where we selected the main site nestled under a cluster of Cottonwoods. This is a sweet site and the creek is close by. A pit toilet is also available. There are lots of good camping sites in this area.

It was about noon by the time we had camp set up. Karl wanted to relax in camp while Lee and I headed up stream in search of ruins and Cheyava Falls. We both knew the falls would be dry (they flow in the spring) but wanted the adventure. We made decent time as we scanned the area for ruins. We found the main site roughly a mile north of camp. I didn’t realize it was a full complex with 21 rooms. There is also a register. Take a fresh notebook if you go because the current one is just about full. It dates back to 1999.

After the ruins we continued up Clear Creek and followed an established route to Cheyava Falls. We had to cross the creek a few times but never had to get our feet wet. It’s likely there is a stronger flow in the spring so be prepared to get your feet wet. We made good time and then could see the falls and yes they were bone dry. We got a little closer but were running low on time. I wanted to be back to camp by 5pm to avoid darkness. Lee did some quick exploring while I filtered water. We started our return around 3pm and cruised back to the camp. I didn’t realize how much elevation we gained until we headed down canyon.

We got back to camp and settled in for another evening. We were expecting it to be bitter cold but were pleasantly surprised to find mild temps. We set up the party lights in the Cottonwood trees and our neighbors were jealous. Funny thing the next morning one of our neighbors walked up and asked if we were camping at Deer Creek a month ago. She recognized the party lights. Sure enough yes that was us. We had a good laugh at what a small world it is.

Day 3 – November 29, 2014
Karl was feeling better and Lee was getting an itch for Brahma. They quickly packed up camp and headed back to our first night’s camp. I stayed behind. I wanted to do some exploring down canyon. I would meet them later.

I got my day pack together and told them my plan and I was off down canyon. I followed Clear Creek south and came to the intersection with an east arm. I scoped this out on maps ahead of time and wanted to take a look. I hiked in about a mile. The creek bed is dry through here and walls are really high. There is a mixture of Shinumo Quartzite and Bass Limestone among other formations. I want to return here when I have more time. I returned to main intersection and then headed a bit down Clear Creek. This is another amazing drainage and I want to return with more time to go all the way to the Colorado River.

After my brief hike downstream I returned to camp under the Cottonwoods and relaxed for an hour or so. During this time I ate and filtered more water. I wanted to be prepared for another dry camp at Sumner Wash. I left camp around noon and cruised the six plus miles back to our first night’s camp. Karl and Lee’s tents were set up. They were exploring the Redwall break and would return within an hour or two.

We settled in for our last evening as we ate dinner and then lay on our backs and did some star gazing. It was clear skies tonight but the moon was out and was very bright at roughly 60% full. I got lucky and saw a few satellites and a pair of shooting stars.

Day 4 – November 30, 2014
We woke fairly early and had camp broken down by 7am. We hit the trail soon after and cruised back to Phantom Ranch. My pack was noticeably lighter. I weighed it at the ranch and it was 27.5 lbs. It weighed 42 lbs on Thursday after I loaded up on water.

The hike up South Kaibab was the typical grind but it flew by. The skies were overcast and the temps were cool. We topped out around noon and then loaded up and headed back to Phoenix. Another wonderful trip complete!


This was a really fun trip and great company. I would definitely return to Clear Creek with more time to spend exploring. I would love to see Cheyava Falls gushing. That would be a sight to behold! Thanks Lee for picking up the permits and driving.
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Great Day Hike with JohnLP. Started at South Kaibab and headed down to Phantom Ranch and then up and out on the Clear Creek Trail. We went to Clear Creek and had considered going up to Cheyava Falls but a couple backpackers told us the Falls were dry. With that being the case we just explored around the camp and down Creek a bit and then headed up the Canyon for a half mile or so. Very cool indeed! This one is in Scott Warrens Book 100 Classic Hikes in Arizona. It would be a great place to camp for sure! Weather was great and the traffic wasn't too bad all things considered! Thanks for the great company John!
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Friday 4/23/10 - Left Phoenix at 0430. Stopped for breakfast in Flagstaff and arrived at Bright Angel TH at 0830. Checked in at the Bright Angel Desk to make sure we were confirmed for the Phantom Ranch Steak Dinner on Sunday 04/25 and for breakfast on Monday 04/26. We were too late for the Hiker Express Shuttle so we took the Blue Line to the Visitor Center and the Green Line to the South Kaibab TH. The Canyon had experienced several days of rain. It was very overcast with a 20% chance of rain diminishing to a 10% chance of rain overnight. Started SK at 0930. Strolled leisurely and arrived Phantom Ranch at 1230. Rested and ate lunch then started up the Clear Creek Trail at 1300. I had significant anxiety about SK because of my knee, but my knee held up well. I had significant anxiety about the climb out of PR on CC. The start of CC is very pleasant. You gain about 1,500' in about 1.5 miles but it is a well-constructed trail with nice grade. The overlook of Phantom Ranch from the Bench is well worth the climb. We met NPS Volunteer Bill Forman from Moab who checked our permit. We continued across CC. This trail can be brutal in hot weather, it is long and exposed with a lot of rolling ascent/descent. We hiked in a light drizzle/easy rain. The final descent on the CC trail to the campground is brutal. You descend about 550' in the last 0.7 miles. We thought that 200m felt much like Nankoweap trail and 200m felt like Tapeats trail. These sections could be scary for someone not familiar with tough trails in the Canyon.

We arrived at CC campground at 1715. The wind blows fierce through the camp. We had seen photos of rock wall bunkers in the campground and now we understood why these had been built up. The first camp was occupied so we proceeded a little further to the second camp. It was excellent. Eric set up his Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo for the first time and did well setting it up in these conditions. I carried my MSR Hubba because of the rain. We had read Jamie Campos' trip report of his 4/19-4/20 trip so we were prepared for Clear Creek running high and silty. I brought my Sea to Summit 10L bucket which we used to scoop water from the creek. We let the silt settle and then draped a piece of polypro across the bucket and filtered water. It was cold, especially with the wind. I wore my raingear to block the wind and for a little (but not quite enough) warmth. Turned in at 2000. I stayed up a little to study the map for Cheyava.

Clear Creek to Cheyava Falls.
We woke at 0600. Spoke to some hikers from Park City in the first camp. They had been to Cheyava the day before and had several high water crossings. Took them 3.5 hours to the Falls and 3.5 hours back. They had not found the ruins. Started on the trail at 0700. We were joined by Doug and Craig who were camped at CC. Craig had been to the Falls several years before. The rain had stopped and the creek was down a little from its high. The first three crossings out of camp were the worst - mid-calf high and fast. Eric and I were wearing Keen shoes and hydrosocks so we did fine. Craig and Doug had on regular boots and socks - this would come back to really haunt Doug with horrible blisters. We found trails and cairns in various places but had to bushwhack our way numerous times. If you are not comfortable with offtrail bushwhacking and creek crossings, this trail is not for you. The first view of the Falls was from about 1 mile south. At one point we were up high from the creek and faced choices of bushwhacking through thick shindaggers, bushwhacking through thick manzanita, or bushwhacking back down a small cliff to the creek. We chose bushwhacking through the manzanita. We got to the Falls. Craig said that on his prior trip he had bushwhacked to the north side of the Falls and it really wasn't any better than the view from south of the Falls. We took his advice. I had seen a Gary Ladd photo of Cheyava Falls and shown it to Eric. We decided it was from up the hill across from the Falls. We were carrying 30' of 1" webbing and 30' of 5mm static rope. We split from Doug and Craig and worked our way across the creek and climbed up the hill - a nice little Class 4; we didn't need to set protection. We waited a while in the shade of a juniper as the sun angle changed. I took a couple of photos. We decided we could get down off of the ledge without protection. We started downcreek making good time - partly by just staying in the creek since we had the proper footwear. We caught up with Doug and Craig. We saw several nice campsites in the Cheyava Use Area. Craig showed us where he thought the ruins might be. Eric scouted up the hill and confirmed. We found what must have been the Granary; it has manos and metates outside of it. Eric continued to scout the face of the cliff and we found significant ruins all along the cliff. Eric's most interesting find was a piece of shaped wood with grooves in it about 8" apart. We thought it might have been the anchor for a ladder to get up to the main room. We saw what we think had been an agave pit below the ruins. We decided we had seen enough. Eric did some scree surfing, followed by Doug and Craig. Discretion being the better part of valor, I butt surfed my way down. We returned to camp.

Clear Creek to Phantom Ranch.
We woke at 0600. We hit the trail at 0800 for a nice leisurely stroll back to PR. We chatted with two different groups of hikers on CC. The sky was clear and it was starting to get hot. PR hit 85? this afternoon. Set up camp and went up to the Canteen for a Lemmy. Craig showed us what he does to have his gear hauled out by mule. I'm conflicted by this. If I haul it in, I feel that I should haul it out. And I don't want to support the mules. But I suppose if it is the only way for someone to continue enjoying the Canyon, or for someone with medical conditions, I guess it's ok for them. Enjoyed the steak dinner at 1700. Back to camp and met NPS Ranger Brian Bloom. Bil Vandergraf wasn't working that day. Then back to the Amphitheater for NPS Ranger Pam Cox's presentation on Major John Wesley Powell. She gave a great presentation and really illustrated the hardships and problems encountered by the expedition. She is an NPS Naturalist involved with the California Condor project. Interesting insights on Condor #26. I learned a few things about the water system I had never known. I showed her the photo of the wooden support from the ruins and she thought it probably was a ladder support. These Native Americans did have ropes made from agave and/or yucca and could have used a ladder.

Phantom Ranch to the Rim
We woke at 0530 and started breaking camp. We went to the late breakfast at 0630. We came back to camp, packed and started up the Bright Angel Trail at 0800. We arrived at IG at 1000 and the thermometer already showed 82?. IG was crowded with a group of 6th Graders from a school in Flag, a troop of Boy Scouts from Nashua NH and the mule riders. Continued leisurely to the Rim and arrived at 1300. Bright Angel Lodge is undergoing renovations so the Rest Rooms are closed and they had construction trailer rest rooms southwest of the Lodge. The Rim was really crowded with tourists. We ate lunch and headed home. We were delayed by a bad accident south of Tusayan between a big Motor Home and a Pickup truck. Arrived home at 1900.
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