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Carter - Nuttall Trail #315 - 2 members in 5 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 14 2025
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 Tucson
Carter - Nuttall Trail #315Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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The first ~1/4 mile of the trail is fine'ish. As you start to move down the ridge, it fades in and out. Until finally, right about when the trail is supposed to drop off the west side of the ridge, it all but disappears.

Despite the fact that nothing existed, I had the bright idea to still try to get down to the next plateau so that I could see if I could jump on the Nuttall Canyon Trail that would take me back up onto Clark Peak near Taylor Pass. After crashing through carefully interwoven pinon pine for an hour, I finally got to the bottom, where the intersection is supposed to be, and couldn't find anything that followed a topo line. It was just more chaos. I decided to go back up the way I came, did a lot of bouldering/climbing, and got out.

All to say, I couldn't find any trails left in there. I wonder if anyone else has had luck?
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 Joined Feb 28 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Clark Peak Trail #301Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking3.70 Miles 1,165 AEG
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One of the things I wanted to do on this short trip to the Pinaleno Mountains was to hike to Clark Peak and then continue beyond and try to follow the Carter Nuttall Trail to its junction with the Nuttall Trail. I then planned on heading back up to the Clark Peak Trail on Nuttall, before returning to the truck via Clark Peak Trail (kind of a little lasso hike). One of the reasons for wanting to do this was to figure out which way we came back up to Clark Peak Trail from down near Hells Hole 15 years ago. Well after hiking a portion of the Carter Nuttall, I can say we were not on that trail, but came back up via the more conventional Nuttall.

I really like Clark Peak Trail, at least the small portion of it I have hiked. This was only my second time going past Clark Peak. I went up to the summit via the eastern approach, which is basically a gnarly little bushwhack. Took a nice break there and read the registry entries, which was fun. Then I dropped back down to the main trail from the west side (I like this way to the peak better). Just as I reached the trail I heard voices, and it was two women that I recognized as neighboring campers at the lake. They said they wanted to go to Clark Peak, but couldn't figure out how to get there. I told them it was just up the hill, and went back up and showed them where the register was hidden. :)

Next, I was back on the trail heading westbound looking for the Carter Nuttall turnoff. The trail is very faint and the sign is set back from the junction a bit. The trail was fairly easy to follow as it slowly lost elevation on the east side of a ridge. The ridge eventually narrowed down and the trail topped out on it at that point, yielding nice views. :D It is at this point that the trail sort of disappeared. If I had looked at my map before heading out, I would have known it stayed on the ridge longer before eventually dropping down the west side to meet the Nuttall Trail. While I was there trying to figure out where it was, I noticed someone had been there not long ago as there were some locust clippings off to the west side. It even looked like there was an old overgrown trail there, but it was probably just game paths, and quickly faded out. By this time I was down in the thicket, crawling in some places, and getting a little bloodied up, thanks to the locust plants. :sweat: Very steep there, so I had to carefully use the plants to help pull myself back up to the ridge and out of that mess! :lol: At this point it was time to call it a day and head back. That probably was for the best, as had I been able to complete the hike as planned, I would have lost more elevation reaching the Nuttall Trail, and it would have added about 2 miles to what I ended up doing. That normally would not be a big deal, but between burning some time going up to the peak a second time and thrashing in the brush, it was getting pretty warm. Plus, it is mostly uphill back to the end of the road.

All in all, it was a fun little adventure before heading back to Tucson.
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Pinaleno Mountains - GET #10Tucson, AZ
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Long overdue was GET 10. We have been talking about this segment for over a year now. Scheduling conflicts always in the way. Well today Father Dave, his Friend Norm and I all met up and tackled it. We met in Thatcher at 5:45am and swapped cars. I headed up to the Eastern end and they went to the Western side of the segment.

The weather was brisk but not cold as I headed up Ash Creek. In about 5 miles I came to an overlook of a waterfall. It was spectacular! Maybe 100' or more? The sound of the water raging down was awesome and it was a sight for sure. After a brief viewing I continued on up the arduous slope. Several stream crossings were successful without getting wet. Upon reaching the top of the Ash Creek Trail I realized I had just gained over 5000' of gain in the first 9 miles! Wow good thing I ate my Wheaties.

After that I checked out Webb Peak and then continued on my journey. I would say the Clark Trail with it's killer views and the Ash Creek Trail are the show stoppers on this one. Actually I would say this is the best of the Passages I have completed so far.

My only complaint is that darned route finding section on the Johns Canyon Trail. It was a pain in the pumpkin. Especially trying to follow the "Official" GPS track which is map drawn. The track served as a guide I suppose as did the blue flags when and where I could find them. If that section was easily navigable I would give the GET 10 a solid 5 stars. Throw that in the mix and I still give it 4 stars.
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 Joined Apr 30 2008
 Tucson, AZ
Pinaleno Mountains - GET #10Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Hiking27.49 Miles 7,305 AEG
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As I start this, let me say that nothing IMO beats the Arizona Trail. I have tons of awesome memories from it for life. But if you want to do a long-distance trail that is truly RUGGED? More rugged than the AZT? Then get on the GET. So far I've done 11 segments of the GET, and 2 of them already have been more difficult than any segment of the AZT, solely factoring distance and elevation. That's not even considering the route finding and bushwhacking; most if not all of the segments (once the GET leaves the AZT in segment 5) have these challenges, since no one maintains the trails and they are so remote. This segment was by far no exception, with a number of miles of route finding and, in some places, fairly dense vegetation.

A few other HAZ people working on the GET wanted to go but we couldn't get the dates nailed down, so JJ and I did it. As usual, we hiked in opposite directions. Anticipating this might be a doozy, I was able to find a marathon runner friend in town (Norm) to go out and do this one with me.

Left the house at 3:30am, swapped Jeeps with JJ at 5:45 in Thatcher, and I was hiking a few minutes before 7am. There are a few places on this segment where the trail is almost gone, but by far the worst of it is in the first 12 miles. Slowed us down more than we anticipated. JJ was a monster machine, we ran into him just 10 miles into our trip. We finally reached Webb Peak at 4pm, and started the 8.5-mile descent.

Other than underestimating the route finding, Norm and I did make one crucial oversight; he didn't have the GPS track on him and we didn't have walkie talkies or anything to communicate. He and I are opposites in that he is fast on climbing elevation but slow on the downs; I'm fast on the downhills but not on the uphills. Because he didn't have a track, 2-3 times he had to wait for me to catch up to him to let him know which direction to go for a total of about an hour wasted. If he hadn't had to wait for me, I could have caught up to him going down. Then, going down I waited for him, which put us both doing the last part of this segment in the dark, and became very slow. We didn't finish until a few minutes before 8:30pm and didn't get back home until midnight.

Through this segment we saw a number of piles of bear scat, especially on the western side, and even fresh bear paw prints in the water around Ash Creek. JJ's right, the waterfalls and flows in Ash Creek were pretty awesome. We also saw tons of those balls that when you step on them, they put out green smoke. Do you know what I'm talking about? Everywhere! :)

Thanks JJ for getting us going again; it's been too long. 11 segments, 32% of mileage completed (69% of Arizona).
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 Tucson, AZ
Clark Peak Trail #301Tucson, AZ
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This was my first time on the Clark Peak Trail, and it surpassed my expectations. Endless views, good chunks of green forest, and the feeling that I was walking through the sky made for a great hike. A few aspens still held their golden leaves on this rather warm, autumn day.

The Swift Trail closes beyond Heliograph Peak on Nov. 15, :cry: so I thought I'd better get up in the 2 mile high country one more time this year. A spur of the moment decision was made, and off I went. Started hiking just after 3 pm, and got to the top of Clark Peak (the world's easiest peak bag) in no time. I signed the summit register, and checked out the remains of the fire tower. It looked like the forest service just kicked the tower over when they were done with it. Relaxed on the summit for a few minutes, until the sound of the gentle breeze was replaced by work calling :gun: Heading down, I hiked a little further, until I got to the Carter-Nuttall Trail junction, where more work calls, subsequent anger, and the soon to be setting sun turned me around. I did check out a few hundred yards of the Carter-Nuttall Trail before heading back though, and it looked like it could be a scenic hike for someone with plenty of time and determination.

So, the drive was twice as long as my hike :lol:
Good times though. I'll be back next spring.
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