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Nov 29 2015
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Phantom Canyon - UpperNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Had a few things I wanted to accomplish for this trip: check out the cave that JJ found below a certain temple that I don't want to name online and be put on some government list, find a rare agave (agave phillipsiana) found in Phantom Canyon and just 3 other places in GCNP, finish off the River Trail (I had never done the section between the bridges), check out a ruin in the area that I had just read about, and, if I had enough time, climb up to Cheops Pyramid. Happily I was able to check off 4 out of the five.

Went down BA trail the first day and stayed at BA campground. The nights are long in the canyon this time of year and I was asleep by 6pm :o Thankfully my noisey neighbors made sure I didn't get too much sleep. Next day went up to Utah Flats and then explored around Phantom and Haunted Canyons. Spent a cold night (21 degrees) below Cheops. Hiked out on the 3rd day.
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Ninety Four Mile Canyon - Grand Canyon, AZ 
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I hope everyone knows where Utah Flats is...if you don't you might want to look that up really quick.

Doug Nering and I jogged down South Kaibab with 4 or 5 days worth of gear and food. We started out light on water and planned to fill up at Phantom Ranch.

Once at PR we watered up with 5L and 6L then immediately headed up to Utah Flats. We'd gotten a late start (10am!) and hit the "flattest of the flats" around 3pm.
Our plan was to camp night 1 on the Isis-Cheops Saddle. So we did.

We contemplated following the west face of Cheops from the saddle just for fun but ran out of light after setting up cowboy camps on the saddle. It was very windy. I had 4G and texted my mom a blurry pic of the village lights from there.

Next morning we broke down and headed west down a very obvious slope but stayed below the Redwall Limestone and above the Supergroup layers.
This shelf will take you west very quickly if you don't mind some cactus.

After a while Doug pointed out we were above 91 mile canyon and there apparently is a route down somewhere in there, we didn't try it. Minutes later we were dancing down a slope into an East arm of Trinity Canyon.
It was here we planned on another water fill up, it was hot already and we opted to nap in the shade then boogie on west.

the water in Trinity creek is very salty, much like Salt Creek in the Little.Colorado River or the LCR itself, saltie and unpalatable. We tried to cover it up but no luck. We saved it to boil and cook with that night. Bleh!

We crossed through Trinity slightly up canyon in a really nice Tapeats break that had the occasional secret cairn.
Once we reached the Tonto Platform again we headed south up and down up and down winding in and out of shallow bays full of cactus...

We found an old cowboy camp on the Tonto Platform (actually it was a flat spot in the Muav layer but whatever). If you check out the white and blue Grand Canyon Sky Terrain map find Tower of Set and just south east of Set is an unnamed high point labeled 5288. Our flat cowboy camp is being pointed to by the SE corner of that triangle. It's pretty cool really.
This was night 2 that we spent on the Muav spot. The gnats were everywhere except on that spot...very strange. I spent sunset pulling cactus from my feet and legs and left hand.

Day 3 we headed to the rim of the Tonto Platform in search of the old abandoned rusty stuff from those crazy cats who wanted to pulled a tram across the river at this level! We followed the rim until we realized we should probably hit the river soon. It never ceases to amaze how fast your water can disappear out there.

Look at your sky terrain map again, you can see the canyon below Tower of Set that feeds into the river above Granite Rapid, that was fun to pass through! You end up in the Tapeats there and there is a 1000ft drop fom there down! I may have peed off that...

The water in that canyon was in green pockets but scoopable we ditched the last of our Trinity salt water for green puddle water.

Climbing out from this canyon was a cake walk similar to Clear Creek amphitheatres.

Just west of there is a very small but obvious break down to river level.

The Tapeats is very straightforward and once you reach the Great Unconformity you might be rewarded with something Beautiful. Once you reach the floor you follow a very well travelled critter path west and right to the beach at 94 mile canyon. Once you're at 94 mi Canyon you can easily travel up Cyn a ways to another very obvious break in the Tapeats, from there one may head West right down to Crystal Rapid!

We spent night 3 here at 94 Mile Canyon beach without any exciting events.
The next morning, day 4, we explored up canyon and by 2pm saw no sign of Jamie, we were going to surprise him in the middle of nowhere with beer. Doug headed back the way we came and camped one more night out near Trinity.

I was afraid of camping alone at 94 and by 4pm still no Jamie so I hitched a ride across the river on a motor rig and booked it out Hermit Trail.
I slept that night 4 on a friend's floor and at sunrise I boogied down Bright Angel Trail to wait in the creek (with beer) for both Doug and Jamie.

Doug was quite surprised when I waved as he was coming down Utah Flats Route haha he couldn't imagine how I'd gotten ahead of him! Tricksy ;)

This was a fun trip and can easily be done in a shorter amount of time. Doug and I both had plenty of time to spare and went in search of exciting things out there in desert. Have fun!!

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Isis IV - Knockin' on the Backdoor, AZ 
Isis IV - Knockin' on the Backdoor, AZ
 
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Hiking21.85 Miles 7,800 AEG
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Down to 20 degrees driving to the canyon, 90 degrees in the afternoon. Light from 5am to 7:30pm. Screaming cold to borderline hot, 14.5 hours of light... the perfect window of opportunity!

We know the SE corner is doable without rope. The exact route and whether or not our huevos would cook or spoil was the question at hand. The base of the SE corner came easy. Skirting the sides looked ridiculous. We headed up. JJ started skirting on undesirable terrain. I wasn't sure if I was up for any of it. Once you dig in the scope of doable increases.

West
First we checked out the west. You can see a huge ravine on satellite. Last year we looked down it from the top and swore it off. We needed to check out the bottom angle. There is a shallow living room sized alcove in the lower end. I'm still not crossing it off. There may be a route to either side of the alcove. Hoping it's here too as the sphincter scale notches up on the east side...

East
Next we eased across the unthinkable without issue skirting over to the east side. On the due east tip we may have found cairns above. Tough to say. JJ cast a mini ballet, voted me to check it out and closed the polls before I knew what was going on. Up I went. Sketchy. Doable. Then to the left. Then a four foot gap to cross. I'm done. Apparently the polls opened back up. Noise from below, "step across so you can check out what's around the corner". Um, I'm not sure if I can get back. "All you have to do is step across". Okay I gave it a try. In the end I crossed that sucker a half dozen times. Around the corner it looked like a step up from the "jj shortcut". I'm 60% sure this may be the route. I'm 100% sure I was glad our turnaround time was screaming forget it.

North
jj wanted to check the north. While it didn't net a route up he did score a seldom visited cave.


We returned at a moderate pace and made good time. It sure was nice to familiarize ourselves with the base of the SE corner. It's been sitting in the back of my mind for 11 months!

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Isis IV - Knockin' on the Backdoor, AZ 
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The last time Joe and I were up on Isis above the redwall we attempted to take a short cut by exiting via the south east corner. It has been done before. Not by many but it is doable without rope. I went down a ways and looking over the edge gave me the Elvis leg and we had to abort and exit the standard route. Ever since then we have been talking about going back and checking it out from the bottom.

When we arrived at the park it was a cold start but we quickly warmed up once on the trail. Down near Phantom it was already getting a bit toasty. We made our way across Utah flats and then passed Cheops. The pyramid is calling my name again but next time I want to try a western approach. Then we went up to the southeast corner of Isis that had us wondering for nearly a year. We searched and searched. We came up with some warm leads as to the starting route but nothing definitive. It was getting a bit frustrating as it is a chore just to get here. Coming up empty handed isn't my style but I am not 100% sure this one is in my comfort zone even if we did find it.

I think this one would be best saved for a guide that has already done it. A mistake or a fall here is not something I wish to ever encounter. At the same time it is still pulling at me even today as I write this.

In the process of searching I spotted a cave/cavern in the bottom of the redwall. I went to check it out and I would say it is at least 40 to 50 feet deep. Finding this was pretty cool as I imagine not many have ever seen it.

We didn't find exactly what we were looking for but we did come away with some additional Isis experience and knowledge. We also got a good vantage point on some other monuments in the canyon that may be of future interest.

The hike out was a trudge as always but we made pretty good time. A quick stop in Flag at Oreganos and then it was back to Phoenix. Nice solid day!
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Cheops PlateauNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Oh boy. I'm writing this in bed. Not sure when I'll be able to get out. Just an incredible day! :y:

I decided to hitch a ride to the canyon with Denny, Bob, and Joe since they were going anyway. I was gonna do a rim to river with Hippy and let the crazy guys do Cheops. Somehow along the way, I got convinced that whatever my real plans for the trip were could be attained anytime, but Cheops was a rare treat. The best laid plans... yada yada.

Started at six just as it was getting light. Windy and cold didn't last for long and we made good time down to the river, arriving on the bridge in 1:59. We parted ways with Hippy, who had to get back to the top in time for work (and you think hiking Camelback in the morning before work is an accomplishment! :) )

From here mountain-goat Bob led the way, the first ascent out of Phantom Ranch being a near-vertical death march. Piano Alley was great scrambling, and Utah Flats was just beautiful terrain to traverse.

We had to get around to the Isis side of Cheops, and the climb to the base of the 400-foot redwall cliff that makes up the top of the plateau. The climb up the spine is a good scramble. Most of it features good foot and hand holds, but there are a few places that the exposure gets into your head. A few loose rocks make you seriously ponder every hold you have because there's nothing to stop anything that isn't attached to the mountain from that 400-foot vertical drop, you included. :scared:

It took a good half-hour to get through the various climbs and onto the plateau. It's a half-mile across and we spent an hour up there exploring, and taking a lunch break before heading back down the sketchy spine ... another half-hour later!

The descent down the scree slope was a pita and we took a break when we had gotten back on level ground before heading back to Phantom via the same route we we came up on.

After a pretty good break there, we began our 14th mile of the day, heading across the bridge and back up South Kaibab. The weather was absolutely perfect and the afternoon "traffic" on the trail was extremely light. It was almost pleasant. Except for my legs were just done. Tired.

I lagged behind the others, taking a half hour longer to reach the top, including a couple of 10-minute breaks, and probably 50 1-minute breaks!

Back up top, we stopped in to make sure Hippy had made it to work and headed to Tusayan for $35 steak dinners.

Despite the pain, it was probably the most fun hike I've ever been on. The AEG is definitely my biggest day (and my GPS came out to 9,300, but since Joe's was only 7700 [wtf?] I'll go with Bob's.) I wonder if I wouldn't have worn out on SK as quickly if I hadn't spent so much of my energy laughing all day? :)

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Edit: Late addition ... Google Earth flyby of the route. Sort of cool to watch! http://youtu.be/wfuVS_8urAk
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6:08 start
8:07 bridge
8:35 head up
10:43 saddle
11:20 summit register
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2:19 Phantom
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4:15 halfway sign switchbacks
5:08 cedar
5:28 ooh ouch point
5:52 top
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7 Days Wandering Around in the Big Ditch, AZ 
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Bright Angel to Indian Garden - Plateau Point - Tonto Trail from Indian Garden to Cremation - to South Kaibob Trail and down to Phantom - Utah Flats - Haunted Canyon - Upper Phantom - Climbing Exit to Isis-Shiva - Down Trinity - Trinity West Arm - Trinity to Isis-Cheops - Utah Flats to Phantom - out Bright Angel Trail.

Since almost all of these trails are not on HAZ yet, I will probably end up writing a few pages on some of these areas. It was an interesting way to spend 7 days, in which I went 5 days without seeing a soul. Some parts were better than expected, others went as planned, and some were a bit of a let down. But to get away from everything for a week and not have to think about much other than the basics was a refresher I needed.

This trip is fairly remote and a few parts of this trip are a bit dangerous. I'd recommend that this type of trip only be considered by people who have a good deal of experience under their belt. This covers about all terrain between class 1 and class 4 YDS.
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Swampy area. There was water, but I wouldn't call it filterable.

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I estimated 4800 gpm, the flow was incredible and powerful from where it emerged. Even at its very source, it was a bit turbid, probably because the flow was so powerful.

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Seeping out from under a rock to the north of the creek, I'd estimate about 2 gpm.

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Wow, this spring rivals fossil creek, it was pumping out crystal clear, great tasting water at a thousand gpm.

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Creek flowing @ Tonto intersection about a 10 gpm

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Water was seeping out at a decent rate in several spots here, but it tasted awful even though it was very clear and sand filtered. I'd suggest you bring some type of gatorade mix or something similar to mask the taste.
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