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Phoenix Street Loop - Payson - 3 members in 9 triplogs have rated this an average 2.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Phoenix Street Loop - PaysonPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking4.15 Miles 464 AEG
Hiking4.15 Miles   1 Hour   26 Mns   2.90 mph
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If removing guides from the database was a thing, this route should probably be considered. Meh. Anyway, at the 543 junction there was a vehicle parked with a Trump sticker on its bumper. I drank one of the Bud Lights from the cooler that was in the truck bed. TY cultist!
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May 21 2022
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 Chandler, AZ
Gibson Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking8.97 Miles 1,812 AEG
Hiking8.97 Miles   7 Hrs   23 Mns   1.77 mph
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As described in the official guide for this route, we parked near the gate next to the water tank on Promontory Way. The first thing we noticed, though, was a series of "No Trespassing" signs for the Apache tribal land. The trail started just to the left of the signs, behind a downed barbed wire gate. A few of the older triplogs mentioned something about private property and the reservation land, but we wondered if some of the boundaries had changed in recent years, as the most recent triplog was from 2019. We did a quick search on Google Maps, and it looked like the trail parallels the eastern boundary of the off-reservation trust land on the other side of the fence line, so trespassing wouldn't be an issue.

We decided to hike the loop counter-clockwise, opting to go up the steepest stretch to Gibson Peak and down the ridgeline to the northeast from the summit. The first few miles were easy hiking along forest roads, and the first tank had plenty of water, though the second was dry. Around three miles in, we got our first views of Gibson Peak as the road dropped down into a valley before starting the climb a little under four miles in.

The off-trail portion up to the peak wasn't too bad--it was a steady incline but not overly steep, and most of the brush was non-thorny grasses. There was a little more catclaw near the top, but it was mostly avoidable. After a short scramble up the red rocks to the peak, we headed over to the stone shelter. From a distance, it looks like a Native American ruin, but closer up, it's something modern...I'm curious what the history is behind it.

There was an old MRE package inside, and the summit register was inside a white tin, tucked between the rocks in the wall of the structure. The peak doesn't get much traffic--the notebook was placed in 1995 and still has plenty of blank pages, and there was only one entry in 2021 and one before us in 2022. I saw a handful of familiar HAZ names, and the most recent entry was from March. There was also a very small cylindrical container inside the tin that had folded sheets of paper with register entries as far back as 1991 and probably farther...I didn't look at all of them.

I searched for a Gibson benchmark for a few minutes but didn't find anything. The map shows a triangle at the peak, so I assume it's up there somewhere, although I haven't seen any pictures or mentions of it in other triplogs/photo sets...maybe @FLYING_FLIVER knows if it's up there? :) Before starting down, we took a break on the top and enjoyed the great views looking out over Stewart Pocket and the Mogollon Rim, the Mazatzals, the Sierra Anchas, and more. With the flat peak and plenty of shade, it's a very pleasant area up there.

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The stretch along the ridgeline coming down off the peak was a little tedious at times. The trees are thick enough that the views are limited, and it mostly involved dodging brush and branches as we made our way down. It was a lot more enjoyable and scenic as the forest started to open up more, and it was a fun scramble up and over Peak 5502, which had a pine tree decorated with Christmas ornaments at the top.

From there, it was easy hiking again on trails/roads back to Promontory Way. The weather was perfect, and we didn't see anyone all day...it was an enjoyable and scenic hike, and @kingsnake did a nice job with the detailed route and guide. We had a few more hours of late afternoon/early evening available, so we continued east down Phoenix Street to check out Stewart Pocket before we left the area.
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Oct 26 2014
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Gibson Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 26 2014
mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
Hiking9.50 Miles 2,213 AEG
Hiking9.50 Miles   5 Hrs   55 Mns   1.81 mph
2,213 ft AEG      40 Mns Break
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This is a nice ridge hike to Gibson Peak. I pretty much followed the ridge / kingsnake's route all the way. A bit of brush the last mile or so. The summit has some really nice red rock slabs and cliff edges :)

I was planning to do Gibson (and Cypress) from Stewart Pocket but when this ridge route showed up I decided this would be better for Gibson. Now I need KS to find the optimum route up Cypress ;)

I saw two deer along the ridge and a garter snake by the elaborate fire pit near "tank 2". I did a quick detour in round valley following some ribbons for a while not sure where that trail went but I looped around back to the start.
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May 08 2014
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 Joined Dec 20 2010
 Sunnyslope, PHX
Gibson Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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kingsnakeTriplogs 894
Hiking9.66 Miles 2,279 AEG
Hiking9.66 Miles   5 Hrs   25 Mns   1.78 mph
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Been planning this hike for about 18 months. Never quite got around to it. So, when things began heating up early in the week, decided to do this rather than something at a lower elevation. Then it cooled down. 76° worth of global warming for three straight days. :roll: Oh well, I had decided to go north, so I did, picking up Rockadoodledude along the way.

I had scouted out the ridge, from the jeep trail at its base, last August ( http://hikearizona.com/photoset=26425 ). I had measured it at about 8.0 miles and 800 feet. (Now realizing that the "800" was elevation difference from high to low, not gain. :whistle: ) Turned out to be about 3x that in AEG -- plus an extra 1.5 miles, but that was expected due to wandering and exploring. :D

As I predicted from other hikes in the area, at lower elevations, brush was not a factor. The first half up Stewart Ridge was through a burn area, and the second two miles, to the summit, was in mixed pine and what I call "scrub oak" (the shrub with 1/2 x 1" leaves with tiny pricklers along the edge, but which don't hurt when you get caught on them). Very little catclaw, and only scattered prickly pear.

Great 360° view of Gila County from the summit, which was marked by a shelter of recent vintage. The summit registry was well-protected, and quite extensive, dating back to 1987. (With room for years to come.) Seems like someone gets up there, and bothers to log in, once every month or so. I neglected to check for Bob Packard. :doh:

I had led the way up, and Mike led the way down. We got to the cul-de-sac at the end of the jeep trail, and started back. I had not had any pace problems to that point, but going up a steep, switch-backed, 250-foot climb -- of all things! -- had me sucking wind. It was my first hike at altitude in six months. (That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it.) I took it a little easier after that, on the rather rocky jeep trail. We took a quick snack break at Tank 1, which had a fair amount of water, then cruised the final mile back to the Phoenix St. trailhead.

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Aug 21 2013
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Round Valley Large Loop, AZ 
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kingsnakeTriplogs 894
Hiking10.20 Miles 1,487 AEG
Hiking10.20 Miles   3 Hrs   55 Mns   2.60 mph
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Looking for things to do in Payson, I hit on the idea of hiking the ridge line from the Phoenix St water tank to Gibson Peak, then returning on the jeep trail souhwest of the ridge line. The satellite view makes the first half look relatively brush free, while the second half would appears much denser. Topo view makes the southwest slope appear rather steep (about 800 feet in a half mile). So, before doing that hike, I thought I would research it by hiking out to the southeastern limit of the jeep trail, next to Gibson Peak's less dense southwest slope, then make a big loop of it by travelling down an old burn spur to Round Valley, then up some washes to the edge of the rez, then back to the TH, just for extra miles.

The drive up at 0600-0730 was very little traffic, as was the drive back from 1330-1500. I was surprised, as even on other week days, at the same time, traffic is heavier. (Though not as heavy as on weekends.) Maybe Wednesday is the best day for Payson travel?

The "trailhead" is a small road spur next to the Phoenix St water tank. There's no "no parking" signs, so I imagine it is legal to park there. You could get two cars in the space.

After passing through the fence, I climbed up HIll 5207, which showed evidence of many lightning strikes. (Burnt trees that did not start larger fires.) As elsewhere in the vicinity, underbrush was very mild and easily navigated.

After 5207, I dropped down to the main jeep trail, heading southeast. Despite the Payson to Round Valley Loop ( http://hikearizona.com/decoder=16287 ) description, I would not want to MTB it: Think of it as Elephant Mountain Trail with trees. (It is that rocky.) I continued down the jeep trail for several miles, through four up & down wash crossings, until reaching the burned spur. The jeep trail turned grassy, indicating lack of recent use.

The lower slope of Gibson Peak did not look steep at all. I shot some video ( http://youtu.be/lfdq6Ziq6nA ), then headed back to the burned spur.

I thought I would have to negotiate the sparse burn brush, but I actually found a jeep trail down. It finally stopped drizzling as I headed down the spur. It looks like the jeep trail goes all the way to the paved road, but I turned northwest across the top of the housing area. Holy cow, there is a ton of deer scat on the north slope of Hill 4954. I saw a couple of deer, but did not get a decent photo. After a mile of x-country travel, I hooked up with a jeep trail and basically followed that / a wash up towards the Tonto Apache rez.

Just south of the rez, by Noah's abandoned inboard ark, is a large meadow just stuffed with flowers. It was beauty and the beast, as there were also a lot of shotgun shells on the trail, and a garbage dump near the wood line.

I thought I was supposed to follow a jeep trail back, but there was a fence between me and it. I crossed over just before the open dirt area, which looked kind of like a park, as there were picnic tables, rough cabana and, oddly, a couple of wikiups (despite being off rez land, according to the topo). When I travelled far enough to see the Phoenix St water tank, I was on the wrong side of the fence. I must have missed whatever trail it was that would have kept me on the correct / south side of it.

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Long story short, Gibson Peak would not be unduly difficult, at least slope-wise, if you took the jeep trail up from Round Valley, then climbed the southwest slope. The Stewart Ridge ( http://hikearizona.com/decoder=16282 ) description claims the ridge route would require chaps, but based on my other hikes in the area, I'd have to see it to believe it, so travelling the ridge line also appears a viable option.
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Oct 12 2011
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Phoenix Street Loop - PaysonPayson, AZ
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Hiking3.50 Miles 381 AEG
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Payson to Round Valley LoopPayson, AZ
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donqcryerTriplogs 51
Hiking5.98 Miles 918 AEG
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This lasso route starts off of a new cul-de-sac (not on any current maps) off of the new E Phoenix Street extension. It also begins on the PATS Round Valley Trail and follows it to Round Valley, then leaves PATS and goes SE on Gibson Ranch Road before returning uphill on another trail and rejoining PATS back to the trailhead. For the most part, the entire trail is a jeep double track. It is a nice long workout hike with views of the Matazal most of the way. Without much shade, it is best to do early. This is an excellent mountain bike loop

The first part is the toughest. After a modest climb, the trail goes steeply straight up to the top of the ridge, complicated by loose footings of hard head rocks. After cresting the 1st ridge through the saddle, a little further down you come to an intersection, though the route continues straight, you can take a very short detour to right and go to a year round tank (your dog will thank you.) Back on the route, the route follows PATS and also a section of 'Phoenix Street Loop' trail, down crossing a wash where we begin a long climb. Close to the crest of the hill, go right, continuing on PATS (marked.) (You will return to this intersection coming up from the SE completing the loop part of the lasso here...) The trail is mostly level here for a mile and has great views of the Rim and Matazals. Soon the trail begins a long modest descent to Round Valley and T's with Gibson Ranch Road. Go L along the road for about .4 miles and find an established jeep trail on your L. This is where dues will be paid and last night's pizza will be burned off - a long, but modest climb back up the hill. Be aware, there are many many trails traversing all through this area and on this section a GPS would be more than helpful. The last part is a little up & down and passes a all-season tank, before completing the loop at the previous mentioned intersection, and retracing the last section down, up and down to the trailhead. Enjoy the serenity and solitude!
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donqcryerTriplogs 51
Hiking2.70 Miles 505 AEG
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This hike starts at E Phoenix Str & Promontory Way and hikes along the ridge line / hill tops and ends at a high rock outcropping with might be the best 360 views in Payson. There is no trail per se, though my repeated hiking has worn a weak track which has been reinforced by deer & elk. Just head for the next hill top (there are 4 or 5 depending on your count!) The GPS track uses part of "Phoenix Street Loop - Payson" to circumvent the first up and down hill, turning left on PATS Round Valley to the saddle, then turning right and 'head for the hills!' The destination has rock climbing opportunities and long straight-down 'the end' falls. All sweat equity is rewarded by unbelievable views, sunrises and sunsets. Throw in red rock, marble and travertine outcroppings, and a Native American look-out and what more could one ask? This last peak / hill is also at the end of the fire break. Though 2 more peaks loom before Hells Gate, proceeding is somewhat futile unless wearing leather chaps - if the cactus doesn't get you, the Cat's Claw will!
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Hiking4.00 Miles 381 AEG
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A good exercise hiking loop off of E Phoenix Street and Promontory Way. Best to download GPS track to find. Once on trail, the single track is flagged (though not when on jeep double tracks or PATS.) Joins PATS Round Valley trail. After rains, mud is super sticky!
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