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Red Hill Trail #56 - 4 members in 4 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 10 2023
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52 male
 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Red Hill BM 7714, AZ 
Red Hill BM 7714, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 10 2023
chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking6.77 Miles 1,385 AEG
Hiking6.77 Miles   2 Hrs   42 Mns   2.69 mph
1,385 ft AEG      11 Mns Break
 
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I wanted to get a few miles in before storms kicked up and looking at the route on a topo map it looked like it would offer nice views into the blue. It's been stupid warm, even at higher elevations, so there was no desire to take the trail all the way to the river. The namesake hill and benchmark just a short distance off the trail seemed to be a good goal for the day, and that's what I settled on.

As expected, the views are about as good as any Arizona trail you can imagine. If just a few degrees cooler, a full loop dropping lower would be outstanding. As it was for me, it got a little warm on the way down, and then the monsoon clouds built up providing shaded relief on the return trip.

With four total people signed in the register since last October it was to exactly nobody's surprise that I saw no sign of anybody all day. :sweat:
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[ checklist ]  Red Hills
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Jun 25 2023
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 Joined Mar 14 2016
 Gold Canyon, AZ
P-Bar Lake Trail #326Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 25 2023
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Hiking8.00 Miles 1,250 AEG
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1,250 ft AEG
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Too many things to do Saturday morning and early afternoon, but I still wanted to get into nature and some cool air this weekend, so I decided on heading over to the Blue. Car camped at the Red Hill TH for the night before heading over to the P Bar Lake TH to hike early Sunday. Got woken up at around 3:45am from a slight movement of my truck, followed by the sound of some heavy steps right outside. It was pitch black, couldn't see anything but I'm assuming it was an Elk since the steps sounded pretty heavy. Laid back down and in the distance I heard some wolves howling (which is awesome to hear). Got up at 5:15 and it was freezing pumpkin cold; 45 degrees out and I left my windows cracked. :( Before heading over to the other TH, I decided to do a quick mile hike up to the wilderness boundary on the Red Hill trail.

Red Hill Trail - Trail was in pretty good shape up to the boundary, one small section of light overgrowth as you got closer to the ridgeline but nothing horrible. If some maintenance isn't done in the near future on the bottom section near the TH it is going to turn into a Black Bear Raspberry diner. Currently just off trail but starting to encroach. Made it back to my truck and headed over to the P Bar Lake TH.

P-Bar Lake - My original plan was to hike the P Bar Lake trail over to Grant Creek and take it down to Moonshine Park, but things changed. The P Bar lake trail is in great shape, very small minor deadfall especially after you finish the initial climb and get closer to the junction but nothing major.

Foote Creek - Once I got on the Foote Creek trail from the P Bar Lake junction here came the deadfall over and over again with some taking me on a detour through New Mexican locust jungles. A ton of them looking pretty recent. No overgrowth issues on this one, the Locust is just off the trail though so it could get overgrown pretty quick without any type of use. I thought about continuing on Foote Creek past P Bar Lake but the trail disappeared into overgrowth and deadfall shortly after, so I decided against it.

Grant Creek - Quick break at P Bar Lake (still not sure why they call this a lake) and started my decent down the Grant Creek Trail. Initial part of the trail is good, then starts getting a little cramped but not horrible. As the trail turns to the left and goes into the steep drainage part it gets really bad. I ran into a Locust jungle that I could not see through and with the descent just starting not knowing if the rest of the Grant Creek Trail was gonna be the same, there was no way I was gonna fight it, so I turned around and headed back to my truck. Pretty disappointed on this one as I have been wanting to get into the Moonshine Park area for awhile now.

KP Rim - Decided to drive over and hike the KP Rim trail. The trail was good for about a tenth of a mile. Once the climbing started it thickened up and then turned into a Fern and Locust jungle. Had a good size tree blocking about halfway up and the only way past it was to get on all fours and crawl underneath. I pushed through the jungle hoping that it would give me some awesome views on top of the rim but no dice, so my blood donation was all for not. This trail is currently inhabited by thousands of grass hoppers who get pretty pissed off that you are disturbing them so they jump right into you; eyes, face, doesn't matter, they are just trying to piss you off. :o

It was a little warm in the sun (77 degrees) but it felt awesome to be back out in the Blue again enjoying the trees and the tons of Elk and deer. Did not see single person the entire day! Can't wait to get back out there again.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max P Bar Lake 1-25% full 1-25% full
I would not even think about filtering from this 'lake'. Barely any water and tons of animal tracks and scat.
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Jun 04 2023
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 Joined Nov 30 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Red Hill loop, AZ 
Red Hill loop, AZ
 
Run/Jog avatar Jun 04 2023
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Run/Jog19.45 Miles 3,735 AEG
Run/Jog19.45 Miles   6 Hrs   34 Mns   3.04 mph
3,735 ft AEG      10 Mns Break
 
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Had a few options I was waffling between, but shortest drive ultimately won out. Plan was to go down Red Hill Trail, and head across Tutt Creek trail to connect with Foote Creek and Horse Ridge. Decided to start at Red Hill TH and go CW because Foote Creek looked to be the most sure water source. I also figured if any of these trails was in absolutely horrible shape, there might be a bail-out option involving hitchhiking.

Started at around 7:30am, the first part of Red Hill on the north side of the rim is high-elevation burn scar, so probably great raspberry picking in a couple months. Once over the ridge, vegetation changes to the drier variety. Great views from the ridge, and the trail wasn't hard to follow for the first 4 miles. After that, there are some overgrown parts and an occasional need to stop and look for the trail. At one point, the trail splits, with one going up and over a ridge, and one contouring around the side. I took the side route, although for a couple hundred feet it's pretty washed out and slightly hairy.

Eventually got down to Bush Creek, which was flowing at the first trail crossing. Lots of cattle in the area so I probably wouldn't touch it. About a quarter of a mile down Bush, I walked up on a mama bear and a cub. Let them know I was there and they cleared out without too much a fuss. Trail is hard to follow in parts of Bush Creek, although if you lose it, you can just go downstream.

Got to Tutt Creek Trail 8 miles in. This trail was in much better shape, and pretty easy to follow all the way to Foote Creek. Drank some water at the spring, which was flowing nicely. The drop down into Foote Creek was a bit rougher and had a little bit of catclaw, but wasn't too bad.

Foote Creek Trail was pretty spotty. A few minutes in, I unknowingly walked right by a napping bear, who got up, looked at me, and ran off like a frightened deer. At one point I lost the trail and stumbled on a nice big pool with a couple of waterfalls, which you miss if you're on trail. Got the the spring, drank more water, and took some extra with me just in case. From the spring up to the Horse Ridge junction, the going was easier.

I was planning on Horse Ridge being the worst part of the day. The first big climb ascends about 700 in 3/4 mile. Once gaining the ridge, there is a relatively level mile with sweeping views. I actually really enjoyed this trail, although I might have had a different opinion if it weren't for some clouds and a nice breeze. After passing a spot where the ridge pinches off into what I'm calling the Causeway, the climbing resumes. That last mile and a half to the top was an absolute grind.

From Horse Ridge TH, is was mostly just following 191 for a half mile or so, then going cross country for a more direct route back to Red Hill TH.

This loop was actually much better than I expected it to be. I think I can actually kinda recommend it (although a day that's not too sunny is ideal). Horse Ridge Trail is in outstanding shape, so now's the time to do it.
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[ checklist ]  Bear Mountain  Castle Rock

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Bush Creek Light flow Light flow
Intermittent flow along Red Hill Trail. Dry at Tutt Creek.

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A couple of little puddles.

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Solid flow from Tutt Creek Trail up to the spring. Intermittent flow from the spring up to Horse Ridge Trail.

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More or less consistent flow up to the spring, which has good water for filtering. Dry above the spring.
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Jul 22 2021
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Red Hill Trail #56Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Hiking5.48 Miles 1,246 AEG
Hiking5.48 Miles   2 Hrs   34 Mns   2.45 mph
1,246 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
 
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I can’t believe it had taken me this long to hike this trail. This trail really packs some pretty spectacular views and the portion of the trail that I hiked was in great shape. In fact, it was nice to hike a trail where overgrown grass was the only thing impeding the trail vs deadfall and locust. We turned around just before Red Hill and returned the way we came. More details can be found in the description I just wrote for the trail.
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