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Jul 05 2025
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Elden Loop, AZ 
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Hiking19.29 Miles 4,447 AEG
Hiking19.29 Miles   8 Hrs   26 Mns   2.60 mph
4,447 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break12 LBS Pack
 
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Fresh off vacation on the East Coast, I got an invite from Chums to escape to cooler country in Flagstaff. For various reasons, I'd had hikes with nothing but minimal mileage, elevation gain, or actual elevation for over a month. So, when he threw out a hike with 5,200+ feet of gain, I politely poo-pooed the invite. He came back with a more reasonable 11-mile, 3,200-foot gain hike, and I was in.

The plan was to drive into Friedlein Prairie to cut a bit more mileage off, but we quickly found a locked gate. So, back to the original idea to start at Schultz Tank, only to find another locked gate. Later searching showed that these areas close during the current Stage 2 fire restrictions. On to Plan C.

Neither of us are fans of the trail leaving the Elden Trailhead to the tower, so we headed over to the less busy Sandy Seep Trailhead, with plans to start up the Heart Trail and wing it from there. The burn is still quite evident up here, but you still get sections of unburned forest. We fashioned a loop, mostly of things I'd done before. On Brookbank #2, we smartly off-trailed and short-cutted Hill 8747 to save some mileage. It worked out. We were now starting our climb back up. The Oldham Trail has been completely rerouted going back uphill. It only touches the old trail in a couple of spots. Chums thought there were too many switchbacks. Me, being just a few years older, found them to be appropriate.

We bypassed the Elden Tower and hiked through the aspen thickness of the Sunset Trail to the Elden Lookout Trail. For me, this trail makes tired legs even more tired with all the rocks to negotiate.

Reaching the Fatman's Loop, we made the decision to go cross-country/follow use trails to get our way back to the start.

So much for taking it easy. Temperatures were mostly nice all day, especially in the shade or when the wind decided to blow. Thanks for driving, Chums. Good catching up.
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Since Bruce hadn't been higher than 76 feet ASL in over a month, and certainly hadn't ascended more than that, I dialed back a 5k+ day plan to something that might ease beachboy into the mountains. The best laid plans ... blah blah blah ... I had forgotten that Coconino NF closes some roads near Flagstaff during stage 2 fire restrictions. People can still recreate wherever they want, because people don't pose a potential fire danger. But motor vehicles are prohibited from some dirt roads, because vehicles apparently do risky things that people do not do when not in the proximity of their vehicles. I would argue that this wouldn't stand up in court, or make any sense, except I think it may be factual that people in the proximity of their vehicles cause more fires than people not near vehicles. :-k

So, anyway, we quickly pulled up some HAZ maps and came up with other options that might justify the drive and wouldn't be a holiday weekend clusterflock. I offered up a 10mi/2kft option kicking the O'leary lantern, but ptown thought doubling it would be more fun. I have no immediate objections until I complain later. :)

I don't usually drive two hours to hike another town's version of Camelback, and apparently it's been a decade since I did this last (and first/only!).

It took about 6 miles to get up the hill, way more than I was planning. There's some interesting trail routing down below which seems to attempt to maximize mileage over efficiency, a theme we would later learn is common here. Heart is exposed, but it was a nice day so a little sun wasn't awful.

Sunset hits the burn area pretty quickly, but is still enjoyable and scenic. It has a couple of new switchbacks climbing out of the Down Under junction west of Little Elden.

Brookbank has new tread north of peak 8819 and takes a much wider loop north of 8747 and downhill west of there. We took an "offtrail" shortcut down the drainage between 8747 and 8819 (there was a nice old cut to follow) that saved about 4.5 miles off the new official Brookbank route.

From here, we discovered that Upper Oldham has been decommissioned from top to bottom. The first part follows a cut that used to be called Middle Oldham, and the rest of it is all new trail (there are apparently no longer lower, middle, or upper versions; just one complete Oldham). Formerly 2 miles, the route is now nearly doubled at 3.7 miles. Previously this was a steep trail. Now, the switchbacks are so plentiful and mild that they are ideal for ebike riders with dead batteries. Going uphill it was tolerable. Going downhill you'd lose your mind.

I'm not trained in trail building, but I'm naturally gifted in complaining about what clearly doesn't meet the quality of all those old skool CCC trails we have all become so accustomed to. This new trail cut makes a horrible attempt at a consistent grade, with numerous 10-15 foot stretches of staircase-type grade, followed immediately by a short flat or drop. There is no way to establish or maintain a comfortable hiking pace. It's probably a whole lot of fun whoopdeedoo on a bike though. And maybe that was the point?

Finally back up top, we took south Sunset up toward the summit before cutting across to the descent via Lookout. Bruce bitched more than my last 5 paragraphs, but I sort of enjoyed this stretch. Afternoon shade, cool temps, and a nicely worn path took us down quite efficiently. A refreshing change in trail design!

We took the north route on Fatman and missed a turn. Did a short XC before piecing together about 12 different unofficial user routes along the foothill slopes back to the truck. Almost certainly created by mountain bikers, these were somehow naturally created without unnecessary switchbacks. Weird.

Good to see 1-800 back out west. It was an enjoyable holiday weekend with a refreshing Sunday swimming in the back seat. ;) Whining aside, it was a great day, and I'd do it again!
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