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Sycamore Canyon Wilderness Trails, AZ 
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This was my first time hiking in the Sycamore Canyon Wilderness. The goal today was to see some ruins on Packard Mesa.

I teamed up with wilderness guru @WildforAZ on this hike. We did an out-and-back hike from the Parsons TH. We started on the Parsons Trail, which we took for about 0.3 miles down to Sycamore Creek/Canyon. From there we took the Packard Trail up to and across Packard Mesa.

Water was flowing really strong in Sycamore Creek, and there was no way to cross without getting your feet wet. I didn't want to start off by getting my shoes and socks wet, and didn't want to cross barefooted, so I went back up the hill and got some shoes to wear. That took a bit of time and added a little distance and elevation gain to the hike for me.

After getting across the creek it was an fairly steep and rocky climb up to the mesa, gaining about 1,200 feet over 2 miles. Once on top of the mesa it was a fairly flat walk for about 4 miles until we got close to the ruins, and then had to climb a bit to get to the ruins. There were some Sedona-like views while moving along the mesa, and the snow capped San Francisco Peaks were enjoyable to see.

It was a bit of a climb to get to the ruins, but it wasn't too steep. The ruins were very impressive I thought and explored a bit while there. Views were great at the ruins, and I imagine that it was an expensive piece of real estate back in the day!

We returned the way that we came. There is lots of sun exposure atop the mesa which made it seem warmer than it was (low 70's). The descent back down to Sycamore Canyon was rocky so I went fairly slow going back down.

The ruins were great and I was glad that I got to see them. I hope to to back to the Sycamore Canyon Wilderness this summer and hike to Hog Hill, the wilderness highpoint.

Thanks to @WildforAZ for driving. The dirt road to the TH was better than I thought that it might be. The road was wide and would be fine for a crossover SUV if dry.
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Parsons Trail #144Prescott, AZ
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I hiked up the Parsons Trail from near Cottonwood to Parsons Spring and back. And then, because I needed a little more exercise, I went up the Packard Trail a little bit, before returning to my car. The road could be done with a car, but a high clearance vehicle would be better.

I started off with my headlamp, about 15 minutes before first light. There was an owl asking whoooo is coming? as I made my way from the road down to the canyon bottom. Once at the bottom, the going is very easy for a couple of miles. There are a couple of gigantic piles of driftwood that have obliterated the trail at times. The trail has been rerouted around the largest one. You would not want to be in this canyon in the rain.

You will know when you are almost to Summer Spring when a creek suddenly appears on your left, the outflow of Summer Spring. About 150 steps later, the trail takes a detour around the spring. Right now, it is flowing at 100 gal per minute or more.

Near the horseshoe bend in the creek the correct path takes a sudden left turn over to the creek, and across the creek to the inside of the bend. This turnoff is not obvious. The more heavily traveled trail goes straight, and stays on the outside of the bend. Eventually however, that route becomes untenable, and you have to cross to the inside. Pay attention to the official route, and you should make it ok. Then again, when it is time for the second crossing back to the right of the creek, the trail leads you to a very muddy spot. Go downstream a little to a much better crossing.

As the canyon narrows, GPS tracks become unreliable. This leads to both the measured and calculated AEG being way off. The actual one way trip to Parsons Spring is about 150’ of loss followed by about 250’ of AEG. That’s it.

Stay on the good trail on the right hand side of the creek as long as you can. Survey tapes mark apparent crossings but don’t cross at either of them. The path follows a ledge above a deep pool. The ledge must have been blasted into the cliff long ago. It’s too perfect.

Once you get to crossing 3 and beyond, the trail gets more ambiguous and more overgrown. The easy trail of lower in the canyon is gone, and replaced by catclaw, scrub oak, cairns, and sometimes just invisible trail The going gets a lot slower. All the crossings can be made as rock hops, I think, but I wore my “Aravaipa Shoes” and just stomped through the stream. It’s faster and safer for me.

Just short of Parsons Spring, you encounter a solar radiation shield for some instrument attached to a tree. I think the instrument is gone, but the bright white shield remains for some reason. A campsite is established straight across the creek. I continued up on the right hand side until the stream bed went dry. Parsons Spring is really a large area where the water just appears in the creek bed and starts flowing down.

I enjoyed my lunch on a flat slab near the spring, and then started downstream. I had not seen anyone all day and was really enjoying the solitude when my reverie was interrupted by a helicopter roaring up the canyon Apocalypse Now style not more than 100’ off the canyon floor (no music, though). This bad bird, FAA registration N511SC, operated by H5 Helicopters out of Scottsdale, apparently has a history of this kind of behavior, right on the edge of the law. After a little homework, I concluded a complaint would be fruitless. You can do this in the wilderness; you just can't land. The FAA just discourages it.

My trip back was otherwise uneventful. I encountered more and more people as I got within a couple miles of the parking lot.
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Flowing nicely. No water above the spring.

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Maybe a hundred gallons per minute.

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Lots of water below Parson's Spring

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Yew - Lonesome - Henderson Loop, AZ 
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Got this idea from a post by @toddak in 2015. Probably better done from Henderson Flat, but that drive is long, so out and back Packard it was. Included the Packard Mesa Ruins. Went there first then counterclockwise around the loop. First trip back to Sycamore Canyon since the Rafael Fire, and I guess I was a year late doing this one.

Parsons TH at sunrise and hustled up to the ruins. Not a single etching to be found. The roof of the smaller dwelling has been stabilized with a modern support from inside. Haven't been to ruins on a hike that felt like anything more than a novelty, hard to oversell how nice the Packard Ruins are. Plus the views.

Took Sycamore Basin to the Yew Thicket turn off, which is obvious and signed. At first with the grass it looks like a cairn hunt, but it was in near-perfect shape. The grade is clear and there are frequent cairns as it climbs through a rainbow forest. It then enters the Rafael Fire perimeter near the top of the trail. The end of the climb has some deadfall that is tough to maneuver around, and the trail is eroded in a couple places, but it is still easy to follow. Once on top of the mesa it disappears in the ash. On top of the mesa, pretty much the entire way to Lonesome Pocket, the damage is extreme. In the very few patches of unburned forest the trail is cairned and the grade is clear. It is easy to navigate and hike cross country up on top because there is no brush and the ash is soft. The views are huge, but looking down Sycamore Canyon, in many places it is blackened and bare.

Went down Lonesome Pocket, which is also in the fire perimeter. It's rocky, loose, steep, but easy to follow. The junction with Sand Flat #60 is confusing and I ended up on that trail for a minute or two. Once to Henderson Flat I took a break and then tried to find the Henderson Trail. It was lost to the grass despite the new sign, so I went down the road and made a feeble attempt at finding it later on. Henderson Flat was burned except for the immediate area around the cabin and water catchment/tank. The Henderson Trail is in the burn area for a mile or two, so I had no luck and decided the shorten the trip with the road and cutting corners back to Packard Trail.
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Packard Trail #66Prescott, AZ
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This was my first hike in the Sycamore Canyon wilderness, and I was excited to start with this trail because of the impressive off-trail Sinaguan cliff dwellings near the end of the route. I'd hiked at Henderson Flat a few weeks prior and hoped I'd have time to make my way over to the Packard ruins, but it didn't work out that day, so this was a good way to see Sycamore Canyon, hike a new trail, and finally see the cliff dwellings.

We'd kept an eye on the forecast--it was supposed to be dry in the afternoon but hot, with highs right around 100°. I was impressed with the scenery right from the beginning. Even from the parking lot, the view down into Sycamore Canyon and the greenery around the Verde River was spectacular. We hiked down to the river and crossed, then started the steady climb up toward Packard Mesa. The view back toward the parking lot was interesting--it's located on a plateau next to a cliff, and there's a big cave in the side of the cliff. There wasn't time to check it out today, so all I could do was take some pictures with a zoom lens.

The scenery along Packard Mesa wasn't terribly impressive, at least not in the area immediately around the trail. The views looking toward the red cliffs of Sedona were great, but the "trail" itself wasn't very well defined as it took us north/northeast through low trees, shrubs, and prickly pear. That part of the hike felt longer than the mileage indicated because the landscape along the trail was fairly repetitive.

Just before the intersection with Sycamore Basin Trail #63, was passed Sycamore Tank. I was surprised to see that there was water in the tank given how dry it's been this year...it was hardly overflowing, but still quite a bit of water. A little farther up the trail we reached the end where Packard intersects FR 181 and Henderson Trail #53. It was interesting to see the other end of Henderson and the continuation of the forest road--I'd heard it got pretty rough after Henderson Flat, but this part didn't look too bad.

I didn't have a specific route to the cliff dwellings, but I had the coordinates and soon found an unofficial side trail that was easy to follow and led up toward the cliffs. I'd read that the ruins are located in a lava cave, and before long we started to see black volcanic rock, so I knew we must be getting close. At the top of the saddle I saw a "Respect the Ruins" sign, and the view looking over the other side was fantastic, with Sycamore Canyon below and Sedona/Casner Canyon farther to the north, and the San Francisco peaks along the northern horizon.

The trail switched back a few times on the other side of the ridge and then took a turn, ascending steeply up to the lave cave with the cliff dwellings. I was thoroughly impressed--I'd seen pictures, but these were more impressive than expected. On the left was one cliff dwelling with well-preserved, mortared walls and a partial ceiling. The front wall was build down the side of the slope and looked like it might be two-levels high as we approached, but it was a single-level structure. The right side had a lower dwelling and an upper dwelling located in the lava cave. It looked like the wall of the lower ruin on that side had collapsed and slid down the hill, but a doorway and some partial walls remained. The upper room, protected from the elements in the cave, was in very good condition. The ceiling was fully intact, and the back of the room opened up into the cave, which extended upward for quite a distance but appeared to have some bats.

We took a break in the shade for lunch and then explored the ruins. The left structure had some modern enhancement for reinforcement, with a steel support added to hold up one of the wooden ceiling beams that had cracked and likely caused/contributed to the partial roof collapse. The craftsmanship on the structures was cool to see up close--the ceiling logs were cut very evenly and tied in place with some kind of rope/twine, and the vertical support beams had a ring of thicker rope circling the top where they met the ceiling beams. That spot provided great protection from the elements--it was a hot day, but the temperature inside the ruins, especially in the upper one in the cave, was very comfortable.

The open area in between the structures had two short, partial beams sticking up out of the ground that looked like they'd been cut off, so there may have been another structure in the middle at some point. We saw an old corn cob and some small pottery shards. One of the shards sitting on top of the walls was bright green in color...not sure if that was something left behind in recent years or if the natives had green dye. I've never seen painted shards at any of these sites and haven't read anything suggesting that the Sinaguans painted their pottery, so I'm guessing that was left behind in modern times.

We still had a return hike of roughly seven miles in the afternoon heat, so we started back toward the trail that would take us back across Packard Mesa. We kept a good pace for the first mile and a half, but the heat really started to affect my hiking partner along the mesa--I was happy it was mostly flat/downhill the whole way out. We took a lot of breaks, and the small thermometer we had with us was reading ~105°, so it had gotten a little hotter than expected. That stretch across the mesa felt a lot longer than three miles, and I carried her backpack to help lighten the load. Even on the downhill, we kept a slow pace and stopped frequently because she was physically drained by the afternoon sun.

The hike out ended up taking a lot longer than expected. There were some dark clouds over Sycamore Canyon, and rain would have been very welcome at that point, but it looked like any precipitation was evaporating before it hit the ground. We finally got back to the Verde River, and wading through the cool water was very re-energizing. We finished later than expected with that slow return from the ruins, but the long shadows of early evening were beautiful as we looked back over Sycamore Canyon and the river from the parking lot. Our round-trip hike was ~14 miles...the heat made this one tougher than it normally would have been, but the cliff dwellings were spectacular, and this was a great intro to Sycamore Canyon. Another day, I'd like to come back and make it a loop hike from Packard to Parsons with another visit to the ruins.
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Packard Parsons Loop, AZ 
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Funfact: Sycamore Canyon is the second largest canyon in all of Arizona, and it is a beauty! Came back for another round, and this time I brought reinforcements and had a nice loop planned. Starting just a few hundred feet from the confluence of Sycamore Creek and the Verde River, Jamaal, Sanchez, and I began the hike about 6:30AM. Packard trail crosses the creek right away and starts the ascent imediately. About a 1000 ft climb takes you to the top of the mesa and here the trail goes through a nice Juniper forest and many cow paths. We spotted several very large hares bouncing around through the bushes up there. LOTS of animal signs (besides the cow poos) all over the place. Prints, poop, dead stuff, it was all over. Spotted the hill we needed to climb over to get to the spot and was formulating a plan to navigate, when a very nice trail popped out of nowhere and led right up to the top. Made our way over to the ruins and it was a great feeling. Very well preserved with several (7?) defined rooms with wood support beams and ceilings still intact. We took a long break up here just soaking in the amazing views and exploring the area and caves. I always get back to thinking of the people who lived and worked right here for centuries and got to wake up to that view everyday! Grateful for today's conveniences, but also longing for the simplicity and self sufficiency of ancient life. After the ruins, we headed down the ravine to the south and made our way down down down. The first 2/3rds of the decent was easy going through a wash and a very discernible route. It then started to get really steep with a few 30-40 foot drop offs. A few body surfing moves and cactus cushions helped to make it down. As previous routes helped lead the way, we skirted to the left more and more before coming out of a smaller side side drainage. At that point we were all pretty beat up and wanting that dip in the spring! The hike down the dry Sycamore Creek seemed longer than it was just due to the heat and the length of the day. We were about an hour over expected time due to hanging out at the ruins for so long. Made it to Parsons Spring and there are not many better feelings that jumping in that cool pond after that trek. I had come up to the lowest part of the canyon last week so the rest of the hike was a repeat for me but the guys enjoyed the beautiful shaded path back to the Jeep.
Another A+ hike.. I dont know how I am going to keep topping these every week! Looking forward to a good summer of hiking in these canyons..
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Packard Trail #66Prescott, AZ
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Cold backpacking trip, but made it to the ruins.
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Packard / Parsons Loop, AZ 
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I read this triplog a few minutes a go, and it sumed up my trip exactly.....If I can quote Tough_Boots.
""This was one heck of a hike. We took the Packard trail out to the ruins and then scurried down a pretty adventurous side canyon into Sycamore Canyon. We then boulder hopped to Parsons. It was a beautiful day all around and the off-trail was challenging yet fairly short. Not a bad view all day.""

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At the trailhead, I noticed that the planned route didn't load onto Route Scout. I usually upload the route to two different apps, just in case something goes wrong. This was another lesson relearned... I knew I wouldn't have issues with the Packard and Parson trails. The issue was finding a manageable path down to Sycamore Canyon. From the ruins, I looked down to find the best possible route to the wash. After spotting two possible paths, we started hiking down. We didn't backtrack like the other routes uploaded on HAZ.(I was going to, but I didn't have the uploaded route) This was an adventurous section of the hike. We lost 800 feet in 3/4 of a mile. Miss Ellie, my Jack Russell, did awesome. She gets 2 gold stars today. I did carry her the last 3/4 of a mile of the Parsons Trail. She had been up with me since 1am, with out any kind of nap, and it was after 5pm.
This was my first hike with a friend of mine, so I wanted to show him what Arizona has to offer. This trail did just that. His only complaint, was the constant boulder hopping on the Sycamore...I think we have heard this complaint before....

From the ruins all the way down to the Spring, my camera was set on manual mode. All my pictures where ruined :(
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"Hiking Ruins Seldom Seen" inspired me to make this trek. Feeling perhaps a bit cocky after dayhiking the Grand Canyon last week I neglected to hit the trail until 10 AM. Unfortunately, after crossing Sycamore Creek and making the turn onto Packard trail, the route goes UP,up,up for just under two miles before mellowing out on Packard Mesa. The sun and heat made this feel much more arduous than it needed to be. Fortunately, the views of Sycamore Creeks brilliant erosion from Black mountain and the layers of red stained rocks foreshadowing the monuments in Sycamore Canyon make even a tough time feel good. I enjoyed glimpsing the San Francisco Peaks as the trail topped out on Packard Mesa. Here the cairns begin in earnest and the trail seems to break into three unwound braids that all follow the same course but in parallel lines. The walk across the mesa is wide and open with just a few junipers and some dwarf mesquite here and there. As you approach Sycamore Tank a red mountain appears up trail that marks the approximate location of the gated boundary for Sycamore Canyon wilderness. After some confusing signage, Packard trail heads through the corral style opening at Sycamore tank, hugs left, and exits through a similar corral style opening though the barbed wire enclosing Sycamore tank. From here, the trail is again somewhat faint but keeping an eye out for cairns or generally walking towards the red rock mountains will lead one to Sycamore Canyon. Since I was here for the ruins, I turned at the wilderness gate and headed right for that rise. The ruins in this area are extremely impressive in terms of how they're built into the cliff and how intact they are. Should you happen to visit this area be sure to limit your impact as much as possible for future visitors.

I retraced my path back to the parking area under the welcomed shade of monsoon thunderstorms. Although I could see the rain falling in several places distant on the horizon, I remained (luckily) dry. Coming back around Sycamore Creek I had the fortune of finding a big patch of wild brook mint which I happen to collect and dry for tea though on this occasion I left it for a future visit.

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Been awhile since the last time in Sycamore Canyon. But first we had to hike up on the plateau above the canyon. The trail was very good with decent grade up to the top and once on top we were rewarded with some great views towards Sedona. We crested on the plateau reaching the wilderness boundary and then enjoyed a lunch break at the ruins with more awesome views. After lunch we headed down into Sycamore Canyon for the off trail portion of the hike which added some adventure. We encountered a few pour offs and small cliff outs but finally made into upper Sycamore. From there we boulder hopped down canyon eventually reaching Parsons Spring and rejoining the trail. Once on trail we made good time back to the vehicle but not before enjoying the very picturesque scenes along Sycamore Canyon...fall colors and cool pools!!
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This is four hikes in one. Only the boulder hop gets a little bit old, but even that isn't a big deal, and connects 3 other gems. The variety on one hike is awesome.

Perfect weather today, not over 65 on the plateau, and downright chilly in the shaded canyon bottom. Then we turned a corner and the sun warmed things up again.

A range of foliage colors from some cottonwoods that had lost all their leaves to some that were still green. Plenty of yellows that were prime. Absolutely no reds. A few sycamores were nice, but most were rusty.

With 5.5 hours and 11.5 hours as the two previous trip times, I wasn't sure how long it would take. Probably should have slept an hour later this morning. Oh well.

I could see myself exploring more of this side of the wilderness on future visits.
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No real spring source. Just slowly water appears and eventually it's running nicely. Clear and cool.

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Not sure about the spring itself but plenty of water here in the mainstem as always

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This was one heck of a hike. We took the Packard trail out to the ruins and then scurried down a pretty adventurous side canyon into Sycamore Canyon. We then boulder hopped to Parsons. It was a beautiful day all around and the off-trail was challenging yet fairly short. Not a bad view all day.
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Hiking15.23 Miles 2,762 AEG
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Chumley put together this loop and it turned out to be a winner. We started on the Packard Trail and headed for the ruins which are amazing! The view of Sedona is awesome. From there we dropped down a drainage into Sycamore Creek. The final drop proved to be difficult. There is a huge fall that needs to be bypassed. I followed a route I had preloaded and found staying hard left was the best option. The descent is steep and loose but has no exposure. After we dropped into the creek we made haste to Parson’s Spring. From there it was easy going back to the trailhead.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Parsons Trail #144Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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BoonemanTriplogs 4,634
Hiking5.70 Miles 600 AEG
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Yet another gem in the high desert with an easy path to follow, plenty of shade and a few great swimming holes make this one a nice summer destination.
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Feb 22 2015
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 Jackson, CA
Yew Thicket Trail #52Sedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
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toddakTriplogs 577
Hiking27.00 Miles 4,000 AEG
Hiking27.00 Miles   11 Hrs   30 Mns   2.35 mph
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Excellent lasso loop from the Parson Springs trailhead - north on Packard #66 and Sycamore Basin #63, then counter-clockwise loop up Yew Thicket #53, down Unknown #61 (aka Lonesome Pocket according to the sign) and back east on Henderson #53.

I had a little trouble finding the Yew Thicket trail where it supposedly meets Sycamore Basin, but after a little wandering in the general direction it became clear. I doubt this trail gets much use but it is in surprisingly good condition, with a huge number of well-spaced cairns taking you up steeply to the rim and onto a lonely mesa with big views. The intersection with trail #61 was unmarked but very obvious.

Trail #61 down to Henderson Flat follows a loose, rocky ridge through open scrub, and would be very unpleasant in the uphill direction under hot sun. The west end of Henderson #53 is faint and overgrown in spots, but improves greatly as it travels southeast along the base of gorgeous red rock cliffs.
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Apr 26 2013
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 Phoenix, AZ
Henderson Trail #53Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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Oregon_HikerTriplogs 626
Hiking1.30 Miles 404 AEG
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This was the last day of a 3 day trip to the south boundary of the Sycamore Canyon Wilderness and my fourth short day hike into the red rock mountains along the north side of Henderson Trail #53 to search for Indian Ruins. For this hike, I drove to the end of FR181 and the location of the trail head for Sycamore Basin Trail #63 where it enters the wilderness. This is also the location of the east end of Henderson Trail #53.

From the trail head I hiked north west cross country to a ridge top and then followed that ridge line west to the red cliffs. I traversed around the north side of these cliffs and searched for a way to hike up to a series of benches on top of the cliffs. After several attempts to climb short cliff sections and retreating due to my fear of climbing exposure, I found a safe route to the top of the first bench. There were the remains of ruin walls for a small structure on top of this bench with a commanding view of Sycamore Basin to the north and the foothills descending to the Verde River to the south. There were several other minor wall remains along this bench. I needed to start the drive home by noon so headed back to the trail head where I encountered two hikers who had just hiked up the Packard Trail to see the Packard Mesa Cliff Dwellings. The younger member of the duo was talkative and wanted to know how I had driven to this location. The older guy did not look happy and was probably wondering why his young companion had made him hike all the way up Packard Trail to see the ruins when they could have driven there in the young guy's Jeep Wrangler. I didn't mention that it takes 2 hours to drive the 32 miles of dirt road from Jerome to the end of FR181.
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Apr 21 2013
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 chandler,az
Packard Trail #66Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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johnlpTriplogs 5,208
Hiking6.01 Miles 1,450 AEG
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Hiked for awhile with JJ until my hip said "better go back". Seems a little less painful than Wed. :)
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Apr 21 2013
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 Chandler, AZ
Packard Parsons Loop, AZ 
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,402
Hiking14.78 Miles 2,397 AEG
Hiking14.78 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.73 mph
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Bruce and Joe did this hike a year ago and it caught my attention because I really love the Parsons trail. Parsons is great but it is kind of short for the amount of driving required to get there. Add in a loop with the Packard and bam you have a winner! Thanks for clearing the way on this one Bruce and Joe!

We started out the day on the Packard going clockwise. John has an injured hip and was concerned about how it would go. Three miles into the hike it started to flare up so he turned back. I continued on. Following the track from the boys was great. Soon I was at the ruins which were amazing. Then down the canyon I went. There were a couple down climbs that made me a little itchy. With careful footing they were fine and it was nice knowing that the full trip down was possible. Obviously this was based on the others making it last year.

Then came the rock hopping. It started out fun, then a little tiring and then finally I hit Parsons. Along the way I saw one rattler but he was making his way into the bush by the time I got the camera ready.

When I got back to the car John was there reading a book. We headed out and stopped in Cottonwood for a late lunch. Awesome hike!
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Parsons Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
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Apr 28 2012
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Packard Trail #66Prescott, AZ
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cabelTriplogs 402
Hiking14.00 Miles 1,526 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   7 Hrs   30 Mns   1.87 mph
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As soon as you cross the creek you start climbing and going up for about two miles. Then you have a have a long walk across the mesa but are rewarded with beautiful views. The trip is well worth it when you get to the ruins. What a view! Then turn around and head 7 miles back. Saw a bald eagle on the Verde and pronghorn on the way in and then two snakes and deer on the trail. This one is well worth the effort.
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Apr 21 2012
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Packard Parsons Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,762
Hiking15.76 Miles 2,685 AEG
Hiking15.76 Miles   11 Hrs   23 Mns   1.88 mph
2,685 ft AEG   3 Hrs    Break17 LBS Pack
 
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Had never done Parsons, but I don't prefer to do out and backs, so I decided to see if we could possibly make a loop out of this w/ Packard. Throw in a sprinkle of Ruins, and the hike was on.

I did not expect a lot from Packard, but was pleasantly surprised. The views while climbing, were very nice. The hike across the Mesa, while not exciting, was nothing as bad
as I'd expected.

We got to the spot for the side trip to the ruins. Joe though about waiting for me, but reluctantly followed me uphill. Not checking these out on site ahead of time, I wasn't expecting much. Maybe a few stones piled up here and there.

I was in awe by what I saw. Not only were the ruins (rookie ruin explorer here) incredible.,
but the views...oh man the views! New #1 lunch spot. We didn't want to leave. First because of the views and second, because it was much cooler out of the sun.

But we needed to go, because the question mark for this hike was up next. I hadn't seen a track or read were anyone was successful in negotiating a path from the top of Packard to Sycamore creek below. Once in Sycamore it would just be a rock hop to Parsons. Looking at the Topo and Satellite views on HAZ, I came up w/ 2 options. The first was a mile down a drainage, and the second a 3 miler that would have taken us around the north side of Packard.
We opted for the shorter hop to the east.

*** If exposure or loose ground are not your cup of tea, do not attempt this route ***
There was probably 5 or so drops that we had to traverse, but they all actually worked out.

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It was nice finally reaching Parsons spring and the cover of trees. This was a pretty area.

We stopped by and said hi to the HAZ gang that was spending the night. Liz, Mike, Steve, Todd and good to meet Travis. The rest of the hike was under cover and next to water. There looks to be some nice swimming areas. I especially enjoyed the ledge walks next to the water.

I'm 83% sure Joe enjoyed himself
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Parsons Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Lots of filterable water

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Packard Parson Daily Double, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,895
Hiking15.20 Miles 2,485 AEG
Hiking15.20 Miles   11 Hrs   25 Mns   1.81 mph
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My interest level was set pretty low but chalk up Bruce for another winner. Heading up Packard was better than expected. It goes up and up and the views increase with each upward step too. Heading across the top was pretty drab. Plenty of large junipers are available for breaks so it's not horrible. The tail end gets mighty sweet considering it's a cow pasture.

The hike to the ruins blew me away. With a smorgasbord of pain issues I almost told Bruce to go check them out while I waited. I'm not much of a ruins guy but these are pretty cool. Even more dynamic is the setting. It's better than wow, I'll even go as far as wow wow.

Next was finding a route down to Parsons. Seemed I read long ago of people cliffing out and bla bla bla so I wasn't keen on the idea. This turned out to be the next best part of the entire hike. Heading down was semi shaded and just a fun ride! Somehow we got lucky and made every right decision through the maze. Only one six to ten foot down climb with good enough hand holds for this amateur of amateurs.

The boulder hopping to Parsons is boulder hopping. I was just glad it wasn't half an afternoon like Woods Canyon. What I expected to be the most enjoyable part of the day along Parsons was just okay for me. Apparently the snow capped peak views from the ruins down the fun obstacle view-course spoiled me.

Along the way we met up with the HAZ campers group too! Everyone seemed cool with their passwords and the group annuity 401k so we moved on.

5 quarts was just enough for this seemingly hot day.

Wildflowers Quite a bit of tiny stuff throughout. Lots of Indian Paintbrush in areas. Not the incredible Jackass Clover show August thrills crowds with but a Columbine show near Summer Spring that was quite impressive!
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Have noticed this one pumping good on each trip for over a decade now

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Parsons Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
still a winner

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always a winner

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