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Sedona Heritage Sites, AZ 
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Plans were to spend an easy day checking out a couple of ruin (heritage) sites we hadn't been to before, grab some lunch in Sedona, and then enjoy a short hike.

After acquiring my required (and overpriced) 10 a.m. reservations online for the Palatki Heritage Site ($1 per person), we headed north. We arrived at 9:30 and were able to join the first group of the day—an unexpected stroke of luck.

Our group of seven made our way up to the cliff dwellings, with an informative volunteer explaining the story of this two-floor ruin and the history of the area. Interesting stuff.

We made our way back down, where we met our second volunteer docent—who just happened to be the husband of the first. The rain started as we headed back up. He led us to the "Grotto" area, which is littered with ancient graffiti. The rain continued.

About four miles north on FR525, we reached the Honanki Heritage Site. We parked in the lot, had a snack, and waited for the rain to let up. The gate attendant came out to our car to let us know he was locking up early due to muddy trails. If we wanted to visit, we had to go now.

We made the half-mile loop, which included an interesting cliff dwelling section along with copious scribblings (including one dated 2/27/25 from JL Black). I mentioned this to the attendant, who clarified it was actually from 2/27/1925.

We then headed to lunch at the Mesa Grill at the airport to wait out the rain. Ultimately, we gave up on another hike—rain and 39 degrees was a bit much. It was still raining in Sedona at 6:30 p.m.
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Palatki Heritage SiteSedona, AZ
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First Tour in the am. Nice cool morning, ruins in shade.
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Feb 10 2023
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69 female
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 Phoenix, AZ
Palatki Heritage SiteSedona, AZ
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This was not on our original agenda but we were researching other stuff and this came up so we decided to book it.  And the great thing is, I've wanted to see these ruins for several years.  I didn't know Tina had never seen such ruins before so it was a real treat for her.  The road was a bit rough for a few miles but Tonto 3 handled it just fine. 

We were the first tour of the day as we walked with our docent over to and up below the cliffs via a couple sets of rock steps (60) for about .1 mile; that in and of itself was fun. Our guide gave a great spiel about the non-excavated Cliff Dwellings (per Hopi requirements), and the various people (Sinagua, Yavapai and Apache).  The docent and me got along very well, to the point she wanted me to be her sidekick, ha!.  She was able to answer most of our questions.  There are two alcoves, one is closed off due to deterioration.  The rooms were two stories high. To learn more about these ruins I highly recommend you read Rob's guide here on HAZ  [ Palatki Ruins ] as it is quite thorough. The views are pretty spectacular too, including the view through the valley toward the snow-capped mountains in the distance (Woodchute and Mingus).

The docents use walkie-talkies to communicate (and laser pointers which were very helpful) so she sent us on our way to let the next docent know we were coming for part 2 of the tour: the Grotto. We met not one but two guides because we got lucky as the extra docent would give us a fairly rare tour of the Pit (however, he was hard to hear and had a hard time hearing questions).  Our docent for the Grotto was great.  There is a little pool here that fills when rain creates a waterfall.  There are fabulous pictographs as far back as the Paleo Period (11,000-9,000 BC) and the Archaic Period (9,000 BC to AD 600), how about that :y:.   Our docent was able to tell us various stories about what we were looking at and of course, some of the suppositions that comes with this Rock Art.  Near what looks like a fire pit is even better art that benefited from the fire that creates black images.

Our next docent, our least favorite but very nice, took us by: The Bear Alcove (most elements made by Yavapai or Apache 1300-1890), The Spring that used to provide water for the valley farmers, Water Catchment created by Charles Willard, the first homesteader in the area in 1879.  His grandfather was a member of the Lewis and Clark Expedition.  The Charles Willard story is really quite incredible as he was 60 when he came here, died at the age of 99.  He planted 500 fruit trees near the VC.

And then we arrived at our destination, the Agave Roasting Pit.  It is believed to be the largest intact agave roasting pit in the Verde Valley.  It has been used for 8000 years :o , hard to fathom!  The story of cooking agave is interesting too considering if a cut leaf hits the skin, it causes blisters.  Yet, they somehow figured out that roasting it had worthwhile benefits!  The agave hearts weighed 20-25 pounds. 
And, of course, near the Roasting Pit Alcove there is more Rock Art (archaic, Sinagua, Yavapai, Apache and maybe Hopi).  There are a couple rock art shields that are painted over and are thought to be the southernmost known occurrence of the Barrier Canyon Style.  There is also some charcoal art including the hump-backed flute player of the Hopi (quite the lore about that flute player and debate about its two names, Kokopelli/Lalenhoya).

With all this knowledge dancing in our heads we made our way back to the VC where I bought the booklet on the three heritage sites in this area (V Bar V and Honanki) so that I could add info to my photos and videos.  It was also late enough, since we did the unexpected Agave Pit tour, that we decided to have a picnic lunch before heading for our afternoon hike.  They have picnic tables here so that worked out well and it was nice to eat in such a historical environment.

I spent a lot of time researching information for these videos, which took many hours.  It seems there's lots of information but it's scattered all over the place.  Hopefully these videos will pull some of that together.
Palatki Ruins [ youtube video ] Also, I found this video where they filmed the ranger talking at the Ruins, it's pretty good [ youtube video ]
The Grotto, Bear Alcove, Agave Roasting Pit (Rock Art)  [ youtube video ] (ended up re-making part of this one, thus the delay in posting).

FYI - I'm still liking this Filmora 12 software plus I love all the new music among other things; it's so much easier to work with than Adobe Premiere Elements.
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Jan 29 2018
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Palatki Heritage SiteSedona, AZ
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Thoroughly enjoyed Palatki Ruins. Palatki and its sister site, Honanki, were the largest cliff dwellings of the Red Rock Country between AD 1150 - 1350. They also exhibit extensive rock art. The sites were first described by Dr. Jesse Walter Fewkes, famous turn-of-the century archaeologist from the Smithsonian Institution, who gave them the Hopi names of Honanki (Badger House) and Palatki (Red House). The Hopi, however, have no specific names for these sites.

Currently managed by the U.S. Forest Service under the Red Rock Pass Program, the site is open to the general public for visits seven days a week (closed Thanksgiving and Christmas). A small visitor center and bookstore, run by the Arizona Natural History Association, is located a short distance from the parking lot.

There are three trails at Palatki Heritage Site, one trail that takes you up to the Sinagua cliff dwellings, one that takes you to a view of the dwellings and a third that goes to the alcoves that shelter the painted symbols, or pictographs from every native culture to ever occupy the Verde Valley. These trails, each ¼ mile one way making the round trip distance one and one half mile, are fairly easy but they are not accessible to most wheelchairs.
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Palatki Heritage SiteSedona, AZ
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Palatki Heritage SiteSedona, AZ
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We made an appointment for the first tour of the day. The roads are easily manageable for passenger cars even after the rain the day before. The ruins are impressive and the site stewards were very knowledgeable, but it's definitely the rock art that stands out at this location. And the grotto area really does have a sacred feel to it.
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Palatki Heritage SiteSedona, AZ
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With Judy and daughter Amie's family. 6 and 10 year old girls liked the docent talk at the ruins. Good history lesson. People lived here before Columbus discovers America. Also went up the road to Honanki Ruins.
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I was dropped off this morning at the Bear Canyon Trailhead and ran out to the Palatki Ruins on FR152. Then I ran back to the Fay Canyon Trailhead and hit the trails back to 89A near Dry Creek Road.
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We had just enough time after Devil's Bridge to check out these ruins, but only the pictograph section since we got there 5 min before it closed (3 pm??!!) and anyway, apparently reservations are necessary if you want to see the cliff dwellings. The pictographs and cave the old homesteader lived in in 1923 were pretty interesting to see. The guides who work there were extremely polite and accomodating to us and several others who arrived late. Planning on checking out Honanki and Fay canyon arch tomorrow.
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Palatki Heritage SiteSedona, AZ
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Went with my uncle and his so. Visited Grotto and ruins path. Due to either unstable rocks or wall actually they have a viewpoint set up. Unclear when tours to the dwellings will resume. :(
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I had the need to go see some Indian ruins and after checking the HAZ site, I found this hike along with the Honanki Ruin hike. Before you decide to complete this hike be sure to call te Forest Ranger station @928-282-3854 to make a reservation. However, the ranger told me tat te reservation process is pretty "loose". Also, be sure to purcase te $5.00 daily pass required for all autos.

At the parking lot, take the trail first to the cliff dwellings. The dwellings are impressive and the trail allows you get very close to the actual dweelings. After viewing the dwellings, take to the trail back to the visitor center and follow the trail to the Rock Art Trail. A very sort hike takes you to large area set back in the cliff walls adorned with a large selection of Indian rock art.Cool!
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Not knowing that I needed a reservation to see the ruins (I guess it pays to do your homework), I arrived at the visitor center eager to explore. "What, you don't have a reservation?! Well, we're not too busy today, so we'll let you in this time." D'oh! :doh:
Anyway, I got to see outstanding ruins and prolific rock art images in a beautiful red rock setting. It was definitely worth the drive!
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Quick trip to Palatki for photos with friends, then to Honani for more photos. Said goodbye to the friends and followed clues to a cave outside the site--climbed up and found it! The locusts got a 1/4 liter of blood from me, but it was worth it. Pictographs and 'glyphs, a view to die for. Saw a cottonwood tree, stopped the truck, walked in and found a spring-fed large pond full of goldfish!
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Did the ruins tour with the family on our last day out of Sedona. Palatki was pretty cool and I liked how raw they kept the site and how well hidden the ruins were.
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I called Palatki this morning to see if they had scheduled a viewing of the Agave Roasting Pit site/pictographs. They said to be there at 1:30 and to round up anyone who wanted to come. By the time the 5 of us arrived, there was about 20 people who got to see this seldom scheduled part of the Palatki site. A short trail along the cliff bottom led to the "Bear Cave", named for the bear pictographs. The two docents kept the group going, barely giving all of us with cameras the time to take pictures. Further up the trail is the "Agave Roasting Pit" site. The docents didn't tell the whole story about why this pit was never dug up and eaten (some historical reference to a massacre of the Apaches by the cavalry).
Anyway, the rock art is fantastic. Back down, after trying the docents' patience taking too long for photos, then down to the ruin site. We were the last group of the day and that docent was none too eager to let us linger.
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Nice site, enjoyed the guides' commentaries.
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Spent the day in Sedona and visited these ruins with friends from Atlanta hanging out with us for FBR Open weekend.
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Completed all trails including aguva roasting pit hike. :sweat: Great pictogrphs and ruins.
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