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Verde - Wet Bottom - Highwater, AZ 
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Wow! What an amazing weekend. Loved it. :y:

We set out Saturday morning with options but no set plan. When I turned onto FR18 to head toward Red Creek, Karl honked the horn and decided now was a good time to mention that he'd really like to hike VR11 from Sheep Bridge. I might have misunderestimated the additional drive time to get to the bridge by ... double. It takes an hour to go 8 miles, not half an hour. Oh well.

We were on trail around 10:30 and began to cover new trail miles. Officially, the route begins on Willow Springs 223, before turning onto the start of VR11 half a mile in. We passed by the junction for Dutchman Grave and continued on northward. Right off the bat there was water in Sycamore Creek which was a pleasant surprise. Not that it's a factor being so close to the start, but raised the possibility we might find unexpected water elsewhere.

After descending into Dry Wash, we lost the route, despite numerous cairns in every which direction. Posted routes and map base layers did little to solve the dilemma, exacerbated by a maze of cattle paths. Regardless, this desert terrain provides minimal obstacles to travel and we all funneled into the defined route that climbs up the edge of the White Bluffs. (FWIW, the easiest route through the wash is to simply follow the wash rather than attempt to shorten the distance by finding a route on the bench above).

The view from White Bluffs is pretty impressive and necessitated a snack break. From there we continued north as the river flows out of view well to the west. Next we crossed Spring Wash, which showed signs of moisture from some seeps where the trail crosses. On Monday I would explore both up and downstream from the trail crossing and find some surface water. I wouldn't call it reliable, but during wetter seasons it was clear that there was a source of groundwater, and not just pools from recent rainfall.

The next 3 miles carried us through pristine rolling desert, winding in and out of shallow drainages and around small hills. Eventually we made the short descent into Wet Bottom Creek. Spring hasn't arrived yet so the canopy of shade trees in the creek bottom remained bare, leafless branches of huge trees reaching to the sky. With a refreshing flow of clear creek water, it was here we decided to set up camp for the night.

Karl and I decided to head upstream and explore into Outlander territory. I always appreciate the opportunity to visit some of the remote canyons he so eloquently wrote about, and this one delivered. While we had been unsure of the water situation in Wet Bottom Creek during this record-dry winter, we were pleasantly surprised to find flowing surface water for the entire length of our hike. There's no reason to believe that it didn't continue (and probably increase) the farther up it goes. The stream gauge indicated a fraction of a cfs, and I assumed that to be a ghost reading. In fact, it may have been real. The water depth read 3.5 feet, and that seems about right. I did also realize that 2.5 feet is dry. So be wary of that. As it turns out, despite virtually no precipitation all winter, Wet Bottom transitioned from its dry summer status to a light flow from a November rain event -- and has continued to flow all winter long, despite almost no additional rain or snow since then. Good to know for future visits.

After exploring the narrows around the stream gauge, Karl decided it was appropriate for a swim, while I didn't have an extra pair of pants for camp and opted to take the high route instead. After a break here we returned down canyon back to camp in time for sunset.

Sunday morning the others decided to head back to be home in time for America's Got Talent while I decided that this area was too special to settle for a 15-hour overnight. So I headed north to the Wet Bottom Trail and began the unexpectedly big 800-foot climb up onto the mesa. This trail gets much less use than VR11 and though some well-intentioned trail workers from at least 20 years ago built a whole ton of cairns, time has taken over and many of these rock piles are now hidden in prickly pears and tall grass, and few are connected by any semblence of a worn route. There's definitely no smooth tread anywhere. It is all a medly of golfballs, tennis balls, softballs, soccer balls, and a few beach balls for good measure. Good ankle exercise all day!

At the top of the mesa I was on the lookout for the junction to turn onto Highwater #20. This area was especially difficult to find a route and I wandered aimlessly until I caught a glimpse of what looked like a signpost in the distance. Sure enough, a signed junction. If grass and prickly pear can junct. I proceeded northward sloping downhill, attempting to link cairns together, finding occasional stretches of visible use path, until suddenly there wasn't. The weather was great and I was enjoying all of it :)

I ran into a cowboy who was wrangling feral cows, an activity contracted by the FS to remove all the cattle which has slowly encroached into the protected Wild and Scenic River corridor. They asked me to give them some space and 10-15 minutes, so I climbed a nearby bluff and watched them do their work. A pack of dogs aided as they roped the cows and secured them to their horses before leading them down the trail all the way back to Sheep Bridge!! For all the things Tonto NF doesn't do, I was happy to see them doing this (though from the cattle paths witnessed along the river, one wonders for how long they've let it go on before getting to the point of removal?)

After a bit I was finally able to safely pass without getting gored by a wild bull and continued on to the north. As the trail descended to the Verde again at the white cliffs across from Canoe Mesa, I made a decision to shorten my day and skip over 3 miles of desert wandering along the mystery trail that previous hazzers @jacobemerick, @joebartels, and @the_eagle reported to be undefined, at best.

My first crossing option proved to require swimming, but not far upstream along the bank I found a very nice option that turned out to be not much over knee deep. I had seen some cattle paths on satellite here and in reality, this two mile jaunt across Canoe Mesa turned out to be the nicest, easiest hiking of the day. Lol. It's the only part that wasn't actually a trail.

My route brought me across the the top of some cliffs just about a quarter mile downstream of the actual VR11 crossing point, and some of the best scenery today. It was beautiful. I could have followed the bank north to the trail but opted instead to climb up a drainage to the west and meet up with the trail above the cliffs. It was a dense mesquite bog down below but I found a steep wildlife route (def NOT cattle) that proved to be a suitable option.

Once reaching the official route for VR11, it became an whole new exercise in connect-the-cairns as I now headed south toward Red Creek. I startled a huge bull, and with newfound appreciation for the work at hand, marked a waypoint and relayed the location to the cowboy wranglers the next day.

As with the northward travel on the east side of the river, the southbound route meandered up and down, over and around a number of geographic features and provided beautiful views and some scenes of the river and surrounding mountains that are unique and really awe inspiring.

Within a mile of Red Creek, I saw a plane with his landing lights flashing. It circled over me and surveyed the situation at Red Creek International before looping around and making the landing. I was not in view of the airstrip at that time so I missed the touchdown. But when I crested the next hill, I noticed that it was a busy day at RCI, with two fixed wing aircraft and a helicopter enjoying the afternoon.

It wasn't on my itinerary, but I made my way up to the airstrip and was able to watch a Cessna take off and chat with the helicopter and Cub pilots for a bit. I wanted to watch the Cub take off but the pilot went for a hike and I had no idea how long he'd be gone. Ready to get back to camp I crossed the Verde as the helicopter departed, and was about half a mile away when I saw the Cub flying away. It was pretty cool to experience these aviators in action!

Tired from my 16 miles along the Verde, I was a little bit annoyed to find that the cowboys had tethered three capturees to trees along the bench near my camp. One of them was not happy with my presence. It was clear that they would be spending the night awaiting their Monday escort to the ranch so I gathered wood and started a fire hoping they'd settle down.

Before long I was shocked to hear two backpackers approach from the north. (It wasn't Emerick so that ruled out the only other person I could envision being out there!) They had started from Sheep Bridge on Friday and set out to go to Doll Baby or something up near Twin Buttes, but hadn't found the trail conditions to be amenable to that kind of travel. They did make it to the East Verde before heading back. They reported that the north crossing of the Verde on VR11 at Petes Cabin Mesa was a bit treacherous, though both accomplished it below waist deep.

I offered them 9L's campsite since their chosen spot on the other side of the creek was not ideal. They took me up on the offer and spent a couple of hours around the campfire chatting about hikes and adventures across the state.

Monday morning JD and Travis headed out about 30 minutes before I did. Cloudiness and cool temperatures made the 8 mile exit mostly enjoyable, even though it was returning over the same trail as the hike in. I took a side trip down Spring Wash and chatted with the cowboys again but arrived at the bridge in just a couple of minutes over 3 hours.

On the bridge I was treated to the unbridled delight and joy of a river otter frolicking in the bamboo. Is there anybody who doesn't think otters are awesome? I took a shot at driving across the Verde but it was a no-go in the Taco, so I spent a couple of minutes in the hot spring, which I had not previously visited. Nice spot, but too accessible to be peaceful very often.

Some final thoughts: This area is absolutely great. If you're not expecting a paved trail, and have maps and gps routes in hand, it's really pretty amazing. It's not easy, but if easy is what you want, you probably won't be reading this at all.

I wouldn't attempt any of this if the weather in PHX is forecast to be over 85. There is basically zero shade. Though you are along the river, you don't frequently have actual access to it. There are not many reliable sources of non-Verde water, and in the dry season there might be none. This trip was done in the end of winter. It would be nicer once the sycamores and cottonwoods leaf out and provide shade along the river, but by then it would also likely be too warm for most people. In the fall you might find the changing colors of the season to be inviting, but depending on summer rains there may be no water in the side drainages. In a year with winter rain, spring wildflowers might be popping by this time of year, but then there might be too much flow to get across the Verde. There's beauty in the complexity of the logistics!

Speaking of the river, crossing would have been no problem anywhere if you wanted to get wet or swim. Tangle Creek was reporting about 230cfs. As the flow increases, the ability to wade across with less than waist-deep water decreases. And current can be an issue in some places even if you want to swim or float. Don't be afraid to deviate from the actual trail crossing location to find a spot that's more suitable or safer to cross. Water always wins.

The Verde River is generally pretty clean, but you should definitely treat any drinking water taken from it. During runoff it can be quite turbid and this would also lead to increased risks from contaminants upstream where there agricultural and livestock farms along its banks.

There isn't even a ghost bar of cellular signal in this whole stretch. As phones begin to have satellite capability this will be less of an issue, but plan on having no connection to the outside world along this entire stretch.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Canyon Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Dry at trail crossing. Pools upstream about 300 yards.

dry Dry Wash Dry Dry
Living up to the name

dry Horse Creek Dry Dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Hot Spring - Sheep Bridge Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Hot and wet.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Red Creek Rapids Light flow Light flow
Appx 220cfs, crossing was above the knee.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Spring Wash Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Muddy seeps near trail crossing. A few pools in bedrock downstream.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Sycamore Creek Light flow Light flow
Nice clear flow.


water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Wet Bottom Creek Light flow Light flow
Light flow of clear, cold water. Near record dry winter, so this was a pleasant surprise.
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I guess 3 mile road walks prior to starting hikes are the theme for me the last couple months. Made it until about .7 from FR18 before deciding to walk the rest. Creek was flowing nicely and lots of fall colors out there still.
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Picked this one out after remembering reading about this creek to the Verde River a few months ago. I figured after out rains this would be suitable for a hike with Luna. The good news is that there was steady, light flow throughout the entire hike except a short section. That bad news is that the roads sucked.

I got a late start and left downtown Phoenix at 9:30. This a long drive so I didn't make it to the trailhead until noon. FR 24 is ok up to 51 Ranch, but after that not so great. FR 269 and FR 18 are much worse. High clearance is a necessity and 4WD probably makes sense to be safe.

The temperature was 90 degrees at the start. I walked in the creek most of the day as did Luna. First in my trail runners, then barefoot and finally in my water shoes most of the day. Luna had fun splashing around in the water and kept cool even though things were on the hot side out of the shade.

Things are really green out here. Much of the hike is downright beautiful under the Sycamores and Cottonwoods. The grand finale is the Verde River which is really flowing. Red Creek Rapids were solid class 3 with a lot of water moving downstream.

I saw 4 UTV's and no hikers all day. Finishing up the temperature was 92 degrees which surprised me as it felt warmer. Although I didn't drive to the creek on FR 18, I think it is doable if you made it the rest of the way.
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Took some buds to the airstrip for the afternoon. This is one of those hikes where the drive is longer and tougher than the hike itself. Super easy stroll along the creek bed or side road down to the Verde. Tons of animal tracks. Nothing was green due to the season, but it is still cool to be walking in the wetland area and have all the saguaros and desert up above you. I forgot how funny it is the 'road' just pops out of nowhere sometimes. The creek was flowing the entire length to the Verde this time due to all the rain we had recently. Tons of animal tracks. The Verde was seriously flowing. No way would I cross on the trail here. We estimated it to be perfect kayaking flow. Didn't see any wreckage from recent plane crash, but we didn't expect much anyway. Got 2 ringers on 5 throws. On the hike back we saw ATV tracks over our steps about 2 miles from the TH indicating someone was back there with us, but we didn't see or hear anyone the whole hike. Tons of animal tracks. Didn't see one single animal either, not even a bird, a bug, nothing.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Middle Red Creek Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Red Creek Rapids Heavy flow Heavy flow
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Two humans and two mutts made this trip. We truck camped on the hill on the west side above FR18 right where it makes the big drop off. There was one imported SUV at what I believe is considered the parking area before the road gets too rough. They did a good job navigating that rig up FR18 and spent the night somewhere out there as the rig disappeared in the morning right before we started our hike.

We passed 5 or 6 or 7 4WDs soon after beginning our hike. These were the last people we'd see all day. The walk was awesome. Enough water in Red Creek to make it interesting but easy enough to hop over every crossing (there are lots of crossings.) We wandered down to the Verde River for lunch, then came back via the landing strip compete with picnic table and horseshoe pits.

One bummer of the trip was that we found a still smoldering campfire along Red Creek. I didn't have a cup or anything so used my hands to extinguish it with wet rocks and dirt from the creek bed. I can't believe someone couldn't be bothered to put it out themselves; it wasn't at all difficult since there was plenty of water ten feet away.

I know a lot of folks may skip this one because it's a 4WD route but I'm glad we did it. Amazing desert scenery and plenty of water in all of the drainages. Definitely worth the long drive to get there.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Middle Red Creek Light flow Light flow
Plenty of water for drinking and ambiance but easily hoppable by foot.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Red Creek Rapids Medium flow Medium flow
I didn't ford the river but it looked challenging but doable.
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Running Red Creek..... to Verde River or bust. This is a challenging 4x4 run. At least 35" wheels and skid plate advised.

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Red Crk - Wet Btm - Highwater - Verde 11, AZ 
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Took a page from the godfathers' book on this loop. If you haven't read their triplogs, check it out; I personally think the Eagle's video of Joe crossing at Red Creek Rapids is some of his finest work.

FR 18/Red Creek
Hope was to drive all the way to the Red Creek gate. The new Jeep, stock Renegade Latitude, was not enjoying FR 18, so I gave up halfway and walked a few road miles by headlamp instead. Didn't want to risk my ride out. Dropping into Red Creek felt like slipping into a cold bath. Always enjoy seeing my breath during a hike - reminds me I'm still kicking.

Red Creek was a fun walk, especially as the day slowly woke around me to reveal spots of color. Guessing two more weeks for the real show. Flow seemed normal, though there was visible trickle that started at the airport and flowed to the Verde, which I haven't seen before. Passed by one camp and one backpacker, otherwise a quiet morning. At the base of the creek was a gaggle of Jeeps and sprawling camp. They were nice, offering me breakfast and coffee and advice on crossing the Verde, so I felt a little bad when I had to cross the Verde in front of them clad only in boxers and shirt (water was about thigh deep).

After crossing the river I ducked into the reeds to dry off with some dignity before heading over to a short section of Verde River Trail. Already did this section of trail a year ago, so there wasn't anything terribly exciting. Awkward shuffle to find the start of the trail along the bank, steep climb up loose rocks, and then the sign for the start of Wet Bottom. It was a quick half mile.

Wet Bottom #269
Loose rolling rocks faded into solid tread and huge cairns which, coupled with the waking views, made for a dreamy section of trail. Lush green growth along the way made it all the better, even when it tried to hide the route. The climb passed too quickly and, upon reaching the junction with Highwater, I had a hard time turning away. An in-and-out to Bull Springs, with Racetrack Mesas and Limestone Hills to ogle the entire time, sounded so much more fun than playing along the Verde.

Highwater #20
Had a hard time getting into the groove of this trail. Tread was initially difficult to find, and the cairns, while big, had a tendency to shyly duck behind prickly pear and brush. Once it dropped off the mesa things got better and the northern views got more awesome. In fact, the trail was overall well-defined and in good shape (that drop into Canyon Creek was a work of art), although every wash was your typical Mazzie route-finding challenge. Pete's Cabin Mesa was some of the most verdant green I've seen in the lowlands and, as the trail entered this area, I was walled in by vegetation that felt more like an immature Midwest forest than usual open desert. It was fantastic.

The hike got less fantastic after this. Started when I tried to cut over on the 'bottom leg' of the triangle connecting Highwater and Verde River, which is the same route that Joe & Eagle took. Safe to say there's no trail here. There used to be, found some old cairns and tread, but everything is terribly overgrown by palo verde and prickly pear decades old. Should have continued north and done the 'top legs' of the triangle instead, maybe I would have seen the trail junction sign.

Verde River #11
Second frustration happened when I saw the humble state of the Verde River Trail. Tread was almost invisible, cairns were tiny and easy to miss, and everything was wildly overgrown. Compared to the other two trails of today this was by far the hardest to track. I'm not sure why there is such disparity between this and Highwater, both in the same general area - maybe this one is older and hasn't gotten love in a few centuries or something. Anyways, following it south offered good views of the river below and Canoe Mesa beyond and was mentally exhausting.

As soon as the route dropped below the upper banks of the river I was left trail-less so I ambled in the general direction of rapids. Thick reeds masked the way forward so I spent some time doing recon, hacking through to peer up and down just to backtrack and do it again. Confirmed the island was still there and that the upriver side would be easier to wade around than downriver, so I switched footware and hopped in. Water was deeper and slower this time. Got to the other side, filtered out some water, hopped on the bank, dried off and packed up, then walked a hundred feet just to bump into another channel and the realization that there were two parallel islands here and I had to do the whole ritual again. Third frustration. All told it took me 90 minutes to finally get to the western bank.

The haul up the other bank was quick and well-defined, if overgrown, and I welcomed the chance to move in a single direction again. Views from the top were sweet, always nice to look across at them Mazzie hills. Then the trail got, again, hard to follow, with small cairns and barely-there tread. Not quite as bad as the east section, still annoying. When the route followed the contour of a ravine or dropped down a hillside it was easy; flatland and saddles were difficult. The old two-track that picks up before Table Mountain was a most welcome sight.

Oh, and there were tire tracks along most of this section, complete with dug-up tread, knocked over cairns, and uprooted growth. Two tires, in-and-out, guessing it was motorized by the tracks and fresh enough to have happened this weekend. Depressing to see in the wilderness.

Red Creek/FR 18
It was nice to see this pretty section of trail with more light. It was even nicer to see my vehicle at the end.

Mazatzal Miles: 245.7/275 (89%)
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Yellows are starting to yellow. Another few weeks and Red Creek and Verde will be popping.

dry Canyon Creek Dry Dry
Dry at trail crossing, thought I heard something further upstream, didn't check.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Middle Red Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Nice and clear. Only one section of dry bed, otherwise flow all the way to Verde River.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Red Creek Rapids Heavy flow Heavy flow
Over 2' deep, challenging to cross.
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Verde River / Red Creek, AZ 
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Last time I tried this area I got two flat tires on Lockwood Mesa. This time I went slower and reached FR 16 in 3 hrs (from south Gilbert). Glad I pulled a fresh audiobook beforehand.

FR 269
Not terrible for a road walk. Probably could have driven down it, was no worse than FR 24 with how dry it is, though that would have ruined my planned loop. Tangle Creek crossings and watching the sun light up East Cedar helped pass the time. Only two vehicles to deal with, quiet morning. Last three miles dragged, couldn't wait to get to the bridge. Saw a handful of tents along the river.

Verde River #11
Tons of prints and wide trail to Sycamore Creek, and then nothing. As expected, this (and almost every other) wash meant hunting for a trail on the other bank, because the Mazzies don't believe in straightforward crossings. Was really impressed by the scenery at the wilderness boundary, with the verde Verde supporting lush trees, White Bluffs just coming in view, and dry desert filling in the gaps. Trail got faint in Dry Wash, ended up just aiming for the bluffs and picking it back up there. Good views from atop the bluffs. Then things just kinda rolled on until Wet Bottom Creek, which was pretty yet quite dry, and then the Wet Bottom Trail junction, when it was time to headed down to the river. Trail gives up there so I rock-hopped to Red Creek Rapids, hung my boots around my neck, and crossed in thigh-deep current. It was surprisingly strong.

Red Creek
Got buzzed by a landing plane (so cool) while eating a luxuriously slow lunch and rehydrating. Eventually got my feet back under me and started up Red Creek. I'm not sure if I enjoyed this part of the hike - it was ridiculously pretty, and I kept tripping over my jaw, yet I was running low on energy and the frequent water crossing / climbing up on banks was tedious at best. Maybe two weeks for color, still a lot of green. After leaving the creek it was four dusty miles back to the van just so I could start the slow drive back in evening light.

Another quiet day. After leaving Sheep Bridge there was only the plane to break the solitude.

Mazatzal Miles: 172.3/275 (63%)
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Scattered yellow, mostly in Tangle. 99% green in Red Creek.

dry Dry Wash Dry Dry
Like, super dry.

dry Horse Creek Dry Dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Middle Red Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Surprisingly clear and robust flow along the length.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Red Creek Rapids Heavy flow Heavy flow
Over 2' deep in middle, challenging to cross.

dry Spring Wash Dry Dry
Some huge sycamores, but no water, at crossing.

dry Sycamore Creek Dry Dry

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Wet Bottom Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Only saw one small pool at trail crossing, no trickle.
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This was my first time out to Red Creek and only managed to get part of the trail completed - didn't get to the Verde. :( Mainly due to a late start. But in any case, trail is awesome. Very beautiful walk along and in the creek and under large cottenwoods. Many campsites along the creek for backpackers to take advantage of. There is a lot of walking in the creek, often times it is simply the easiest route, so definitely recommend doing the hike with water shoes and carry regular shoes and socks in your pack. The creek was flowing pretty good, presumably from the recent rains. Along the trail the evidence of those rains was clear from grass/reeds laid flat and high water marks that suggest the water got to be 6' high in places. I highly recommend this trail, and will most certainly be back to complete it!
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Little yellow flowers - that I don't know what they are called - were popping up along the hills. In probably another 2 -3 weeks will be all over the place.
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Family went to Michigan so I had free weekend. I called up cousin Stephen and we made it happen. I have been wanting to do this hike for some time and it definitely lived up to the expectations. On the drive in from seven springs we saw about 6-7 mule deer. We parked about a mile away from the creek and walked the rest. That road gets real gnarly as it descends to the creek. We did not see anyone at all past the Tangle Creek road. The hike down Red Creek was real nice even though its mostly just a road. There are some real nice lush areas through there and the whole time cactus stand sentinel above the canyons walls. Saw some of the biggest saguaros I have ever seen. Some had arms on arms on arms. Stevie spotted a "funny looking lizard" which was a gila monster crossing the path. Made it to the airstrip in 2 hours and enjoyed some moon juice. There are tools to keep the runway clean, a bottle of lighter fluid and we noticed the fire pit was still warm with some coals still burning so this 'airport' must get regular use (apparently by people who dont know how to properly extinguish a fire). The plan was to cross the Verde and hike a short ways down to Wet Bottom Creek and find a camp spot some where near there. After bushwhacking through bamboo for about an hour and getting nowhere, we decided to go back and camp on the other side of the river. Instead of bushwhacking back, we opted to climb a small hill to try to find the actual trail. We did find the Verde River Trail and followed that back to the rapids and the crossing. I'm not sure why we wanted to go across anyway because that spot right at the end of Red Creek is preemo, one of the best spots I have ever camped at. If I brought a good book and a fishing pole, I could have stayed there for a week or longer. I have never seen so many birds in my life. Literally hundreds of them flying all over the river. Gabby dog had a great time playing in the water. Stevie Wonder and I had a great time just relaxing at this wonderful destination and enjoying the finest $10 bourbon. Got a little sprinkled on but nothing much. Hiked back out the next day and decided to take Bloody Basin Road instead of Cave Creek Road. In the future I would take Cave Creek Road anyday over Bloody Basin Road. I also lost my favorite DBacks cap on that road as we stopped to let the dog out for a while, so if anyone happens to spot it out there, get at me!! We also just missed a pretty bad wreck on the 17 coming back to Phoenix, so just another reason to go Cave Creek Road instead. Overall a great trip and will definitely come back to that spot again!
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So the Wife tells me her sister is visiting and wants to go camping with us. Hmmm, how many ways can that go wrong? So I let them pick the place – Red Creek, one of our favorites.

Loaded up and headed out on Friday. It’s a long bumpy drive out, but luckily we couldn’t fit 3 people plus the luxury camping items in one vehicle, so I got the Jeep all to myself. Found our favorite site empty. Actually, we wouldn’t see another human all weekend.

Camp went up quicker and less painfully than I had imagined. Gathered enough firewood for the entire weekend thanks to some nearby dead trees and my newly acquired chainsaw. Was way too warm for March, but a cloud brought a sprinkle of rain and a much appreciated ten degree drop in temperature late in the afternoon. A pair of ravens nests nearby and kept us entertained with their squawkings and spy flights over our camp. Luckily they never found anything loose enough to steal from us.

Steaks, sweet potatoes, and veggies, all done over the fire, topped off with peach cobbler out of the Dutch oven made for a good dinner. One of the dead trees turned firewood was a mesquite and so the coals were perfect. The sister-in-law really liked the sweet potatoes, but who doesn’t like warm cinnamon smelling things? And anything made in a Dutch oven is twice as nice.

The girls’ dorm was cots in our tent on the FAR east side of camp while my modest (and much quieter) lodgings were up creek to the west. I slept well.

Woke a bit late to confusion in camp. They were on their third attempt at cowboy coffee in two different pots. The fire was going nicely though. Got the coffee situation straightened out. Took the 5 layers of tin foil off the quiche she had prepared at home so at least it had a chance of warming up over the fire. And soon we had a good breakfast. Secured camp and headed east along the Red Creek trail to the Verde.

On our last camp on the Red, a large cottonwood had crashed down near our camp in the middle of the night. With the Fall and Winter floods the remains of the tree were 500 feet downstream and wedged pretty well spanning the creek. Very impressive display of the power of water.

The girls chatted a lot along the hike but enjoyed beauty of the place. We made a side trip to the Red Creek airport, but yet again there were no flights in or out scheduled for the day. Worked down to the Verde for lunch. The picnic table that was once there is gone, a victim of the high water this year. So we sat in the sand along the Verde’s edge eating a light lunch and admiring a wild river in a wild land.

The desert is very green right now and flowers were in bloom everywhere. The Red was really strutting its stuff. Luckily, we all brought along hay fever medications for the abundance of pollen. Even beauty has its drawbacks.

Back in camp we munched and relaxed. The sister-in-law dug out a pool in the creek and got wet. I played with toys I’d brought and set an upside down fire lay for later in the evening. I’d pieced together a gravity water filter from a Sawyer Mini and some various parts lying around the shop. Worked far better than expected, filtering 2 liters in 3 minutes and 40 seconds. Of course the Red is spring fed and almost totally silt free. But the little rig kept us in plenty of water. The shower we’d rigged up the hill from camp was a hit since the afternoon was warm.

Dinner was a dehydrated meal brought back to life. Mary Jo has become pretty proficient at making these since neither of us are fans of many of the commercial meals, but we also like the simplicity of a quick hearty meal after a long day of hiking. The chicken alfredo totally worked.

Later, I used a piece of flint and the side of a file I’d smoothed down to throw a spark into some char cloth. The ember in the char cloth then lit a fluffed up nest of cottonwood bark which set the upside down fire to blazing. Two hours later we still had a nice fire and hadn’t had to attend to it once. The clear sky meant the evening cooled rapidly once the sun set and thus we appreciated the fire. Video below of the process.

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The campfire conversation was scintillating. Blonde #1, “While I was on the crapper (we bring a fold up to put over a deeply dug hole), a bee landed on my boot.” Blonde #2, “Was it the same bee that was buzzing around me up there earlier?” You just can’t buy that kind of entertainment on iTunes.

The second night passed peacefully and the coffee making was far less a taxing chore the next morning. The sister-in-law was getting pretty good at coaxing the embers of the night’s fire back to life for some morning warmth. After breakfast we did a short hike upstream. Let’s say it was prettier and far more eventful than the previous day’s hike downstream. Separate triplog coming on that one, as I think this hike deserves a designation all its own.

We broke camp on return and did the long slow drive back home, all wishing we’d had just one more day on the Red.
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Nate and I hiked the Red Creek down to the Verde Regional Airport. We were going to have lunch on the picnic table but Nate wanted to maximize his rock throwing time, so we had lunch at the Verde.
The Red creek was flowing stronger than last December.

Nate’s a big fan of the survival shows so he keep looking shelter spots and keep me informed on survival skills. We saw two deer’s running down the creek. There was no black or red hand prints spotted anywhere on this hike.
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The Red Creek / Western Verde River trail been on my must do list for a while. I had a day off so off I went.

I started at the FR269/FR18 intersection.
Red Creek is a cool place. The creek reminds me of rural Ohio. It was a treat to be walking in the tall trees.

The gate at the corral is open. I’m not sure if it’s related or not, but there was shotgun shells by the open gate. There’s a newer fence blocking an old jeep road that leads to the Alkali seep.
I didn't find the pilot log book/ammo case. I think the airport is closed for maintenance.

Next I hiked the western side of the Verde River trail. The trail is an old jeep road for the first 2+ miles. Then it’s a trail that crosses many washes/drainages. I did a quick side trip to the top of Mule Shoe Bend Mesa ( I made this name up) for views of the Verde.
The northern section of the Verde River trail is a mess. The trail is faint and the cairns are scarce. It seems like the forest service gave up by the Pete’s Cabin Mesa crossing. They just put up a ~20 foot pole and let you figure out the rest.

The moon didn't come until I was near the jeep. So much for a moon light hike :cry: . The temps were perfect. With a 77degree forecast, I was expecting it to be warm. The only time it felt warm was when I was climbing the “Mule Shoe Bend Mesa”

I didn't see or hear another person the entire day. I had the entire place to myself!
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Noel wanted nothing more for her birthday than to blow town and get a break from family and meetings. I've done Red Creek 3 times in the spring/early summer times and figured it may be worth a later in the year experience. It panned out well and there was some nice yellow and orange color going on along with the good creek flow. We drove in and wheeled the harder first part through the root and rock and stopped at the raised camp I'd stayed at before.

We hiked back top the root rocks and Noel read and did some book sketches on a rock in the creek while I explored a bit. After lunch I set the hammock up and she read some more and napped while I hiked out and above the creek to see what I could see. Met a Gila Monster along the way.

The next day we hiked the creek in both directions. Found some nice camp spots to come back to and some Indian pottery shards.

We eventually had to come back to town to meet her parents for her birthday celebration dinner.
On the way back, going fast on the gravel road we hit a couple whoops pretty hard and on the other side I realized my steering was gone. No steering wheel to box connection. In the quick moments ahead I resolved not to stomp the brakes and lose traction control and risk the tires choosing a new path and rode it out while trying to slow. I yelled "brace yourself" when the ditch came and I tried to finish my pedal push. The soft desert was forgiving and the small shrub helped stop us completely with out flopping or the rear end popping up and over (which I figured would be WCS). I jumped out and saw the column disconnected at the shaft splines. It was able to pull back that far and come off somehow even though the collar was still tight.

A couple ranchers came by and their big pry bar quickened the fix and we were back on the road in no time.

Another great trip down there. We let 3 Toyotas pass on the way down the creek that were headed to the Verde to camp with generators. Other than the passing we had the trip and the sounds of the falling leaves and bubbling creek to ourselves.
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Late spring along FR24 to Bloody Basin - Cave Creek NE

Seven Springs and Roundtree Canyon are two lush perennial scenic gems along FR24 to Bloody Basin. I love places like this. A true oasis in the desert. This part of the state has so much flowing water. Seven Springs, Lime Creek, Roundtree Canyon, Red Creek, and Tangle Creek are the primary candidates. This is a special area of the state with great beauty just beneath the surface.


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Red Creek - Tolkien Camp

After camping and hiking Red Creek last month, Mary Jo and some friends really wanted to experience Red Creek. I needed a camping trip to shake down some preps for an upcoming 12-day Grand Canyon raft trip. So the 4 of us headed out with 2 dogs and 2 trucks full of camping gear. Its about 35 miles after you leave pavement coming up through Seven Springs. The last couple of miles are pretty bumpy and the last couple hundred yards are really fun. But the friends did a great job of maneuvering the bad spots.

Camp went up quick enough. Secured enough firewood for the whole camp from some dead trees nearby and their chainsaw. Had some time to explore a little around the trailhead as well as relax and catch up over a few beers. Steaks, sweet potatoes and veggies grilled over the fire made for a great dinner.

Slept well but there was a very very loud crash in the middle of the night. Later we discovered a large live cottonwood about 200 feet away toppled across the creek. The sun rises a bit earlier these days. I could hear rustling around the kitchen, but that was ignored easily enough. However, Bear, the friend's 1 year old Border Collie considers me his favorite stick thrower. So pretty soon, stick in mouth, Bear was bumping against my sleeping bag wondering how I could be so still when his latest favorite stick needed throwing. At least Bear's owners had the coffee pot going and had rekindled the fire from last night's ashes. I seriously tried to put the stick in orbit after a few throws, but it kept coming back with a dog attached. Love that dog, even more after about 8'ish and a second cup of coffee.

With a great breakfast of quiche Mary Jo had cooked ahead of time (warmed over the fire) and bagels and a lot more coffee, we all set off down Red Creek towards the Verde. This is a gorgeous hike and everyone was enjoying themselves. I love the ancient trees along the creek with huge exposed tangles of roots. I always expect some mythical creature to emerge and demand to know why we are invading his territory. There are bright sunny places and deeply shaded dark places along the Red. Somehow it always seems to have this Tolkienesque quality to me. I found myself silently reciting a favorite verse from The Fellowship of the Ring:

“All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.”

Little things along the hike and at the camp kept bringing me back to that verse. Mary Jo has a habit of naming our camps, so soon this became Tolkien Camp.

We visited Red Creek International Airport, but no flights out today. There was a suspicious 777 parked near the end of the runway. Not sure what that was all about.

Had lunch at the confluence with the Verde. There is an old picnic table there and great views of the River. Unfortunately some inconsiderate off roaders had left a bunch of garbage and other disgusting things. We'd seen fresh tracks in and out on the jeep trail that runs in and along the Red on the hike in. Karma is a wonderful thing. We'd noticed a rock with a nice strike mark from what was probably a differential and a big streak of oil trailing outbound. Pack it in. Pack it out. Be respectful. It might keep your gears turning.

Dinner was hosted by the friends -- some great Polish sausages grilled on the fire with braised cabbage. The Hobbits never had it so good. And no falling trees disturbed our sleep.

While the hike down the Red is amazing, I really love the hike up the Red. I'd saved that for our last day. Deep groves of river trees, waterfalls, caves, fern draped seeps in cliff sides, ancient cottonwoods and sycamores, and interesting geology had my group in awe and singing praises of the Red all morning.

Too soon it was time to pack up camp and depart my Tolkien fantasy along the Red for the uncivilization of reality. I swear I spotted Frodo and Gandalf ambling along in my rear view mirror.

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Bacon Powered Red Creek Ramble

Day One

Riparian areas in the desert are always a treat. I’d been to Red Creek three times before, but only day trips. The 120 mile round trip, most of it rocky or washboard dirt makes a day trip less desirable. So this time I packed the Jeep with some camp gear and headed out midweek hoping for some solitude. I had big plans for lots of hiking, enjoying a solo camp, and polishing some bush crafting skills.

Drove the washed-out last few hundred yards of FR18 to discover a group of young people scattered along the Creek. Made my introduction and discovered they were part of the Anasazi Foundation, a group that uses nature and primitive living skills to help young people. I’d seen a group from the Anasazi Foundation on a previous trip to Red Creek. It was fitting that many of the skills they were using were ones I planned to practice in my camp. They were on the last night of their seven week “walk”. Later on my hikes I found faint traces of their camps. Most people would have walked right over them and not known anyone had been there. I was impressed.

Spent some time scouting for a good camp spot and resources, but mostly enjoyed the sounds and beauty of the creek. Settled on an easy spot to make camp, gathered some wood, set up my sleeping arrangements. Busied myself by making a bow saw and charred some braided cottonwood bark, punk wood, and yucca for my tinder kit.

I like to eat well, so tonight was going to be steak, corn on the cob wrapped in bacon (an experiment), and home baked bread. The cook fire was split sycamore started with cottonwood bark as the tinder and brought to life with a spark from my fire steel. The steak was fantastic and I heartily recommend bacon wrapped roasted corn on the cob.

After securing camp for the night, I settled in to read “Woodcraft and Camping” by Nessmuk (pen name of George W. Sears, a writer for “Forest and Stream” magazine) first printed in 1884. While familiar with Nessmuk’s teachings, I’m sorry to say I’d never read “Woodcraft”. Usually I do not imbibe on solo outings, but the thought of reading the Old Master’s work by a fire along a remote stream definitely called for a beverage well aged and very cold. A few pages in and I realized to have read this book in any other setting would have been a sacrilege of the direst proportion. The fire, the drink, and the words were most pleasant, the words the more so.

“Ten o’clock comes. The time has not passed tediously. You are warm, dry, and well fed. Your old friends, the owls, come near the fire-light and salute you with their strange, wild notes: a distant fox sets up for himself with his odd barking cry and you turn in.”

Day Two

Morning broke cold, but not uncomfortably so. Always first, a quick fire and a kettle for coffee before I attend to my person. Bacon laid across the grill as bannock baked in a makeshift Dutch oven using the lids of two cook pots, the larger inverted on top and filled with coals. I experimented with cooking an egg in the empty rind of an orange. While not a failure, I give the process low marks. The rind held but one egg and was cumbersome to put in the coals without either burning yourself or spilling the egg. If you ever find yourself stranded in an orange grove with a laying hen and nothing else, then by all means try it. Otherwise, perhaps not. The bannock, orange juice, and coffee were good; the bacon spectacular.

Secured the camp and packed my day bag. Meandered downstream taking in sights remembered from my last hike here. Bumped into some of the Anasazi group. We shared politenesses and I moved on so as not to intrude. Creek crossings are too numerous to count along the Red, but it is seldom more than a several inches deep and there are many well placed rocks. My feet were never wet. The cottonwood leaves shimmered a light bright green against the dark bark of the tree. In contrast, the sycamore limbs were sun-bleached bone white and the tree nude of leaves. Mesquites were ever present with their black tangle of confusing growth. Periodically sedge and cattails lined the Creek. Saguaro and Palo Verde looked on from above.

The Creek goes underground but springs back to the surface before reaching the Verde River. While traversing this dry section I diverted south to visit the Red Creek International Airport. The Terminal was abandoned; must not be a big travel day on the Red, so there was no one to pitch horse shoes against or to join me at the picnic table. I strolled down the center of the runway (listening for an engine whine just in case) to visit the wind sock which looks even more out of place here than I do in a Scottsdale night spot. Looking down the very short length of the runway, I thought this landing here is different from landing the 737 in Burbank only in that the Red’s surrounding neighborhood is more civilized.

The confluence of the Red and the Verde is marked by rapids and fast water. Fording did not look advisable. The Verde is a truly wild river in this stretch. Someone has left a picnic table here, so that was lunch. Took a short side stroll up Verde Trail 11 and then back tracked to camp.

Celebrated the hike back at camp with a Kilt Lifter and some salted almonds. Hadn’t noticed the slogan on the Kilt’s can, “Pack it in. Pack it out.” I like this stuff.

Spent the afternoon puttering around camp. My inflatable mat had uninflated the night before, so I built a simple shelter over a debris bed of leaves. Would have liked to top it off with “fine Hemlock browse” as Nessmuk described, but we don’t have Hemlock in Arizona, so my mattress topper was salt cedar. Constructed a fire reflector and knew I’d sleep warm with my wool blanket. Tested some of the charred material from the night before by creating an ember in it and then blowing a flame in cedar bark. Some people like making trouble. I like making fire. Played with the bow saw I’d made and then crafted a bucksaw and tried it on wood for the night’s fire.

Dinner was brats, sauerkraut and hoe cakes, or corn pone if you so desire, all cooked over a cottonwood fire started with fat wood shavings and a scrape of Old Sparky, my trusty fire steel. I’d brought along spicy mustard for the brats and honey and butter for the cakes. Finished the last of the beer with dinner.

Cleaned and secured the camp and myself before setting in to finish both the whiskey and “Woodcraft”, not that there was much left of either. I had planned to roast an apple with its core filled with brown sugar and cinnamon, all of it wrapped in tin foil and set in the coals. But I had misplaced the foil and thought I’d left it home until later I found it cowardly hiding behind the seat of the Jeep. But I’d brought along a large bag of peanut M&Ms. As a kid I was not a particular fan of the candy. But while attending SERE (survive, evade, resist, escape) school as a fledgling fighter pilot, our instructor brought a large unopened bag of the stuff to our camp each morning and took it with him each evening, still unopened. We were out for a week or so and had no rations and all the game for miles had been frightened away. When we loaded up to leave the area, he tossed the bag back to us dozen or so starved and dirty young men. Since then I’ve been rather partial to them. And the apple would keep, so it was no loss.

With fading eyes I finished “Woodcraft” and on his final page Nessmuk bid me good night with

“Wherefore, let us be thankful that there are still thousands of cool, green nooks beside crystal springs, where the weary soul may hide for a time, away from debts, duns, and deviltries, and a while commune with nature in her undress.”

And I turned in to my forest bed and slept well only rising to stoke the fire now and again.

Day Three

Awoke and tended to the normal routine of fire, coffee, cleansing and breakfast. This morning was a simple fare of oatmeal, a toasted bagel with cream cheese, and a banana. Breaking down camp is a chore but necessary of course. Packed up everything and cleaned the area of my presence.

Hiked upstream this time, as opposed to yesterday’s downstream. Frost came to mind. “Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, and sorry I could not travel both and be one traveler, long I stood and looked down one as far as I could.” But the beauty of Red Creek is that the trails each way are short enough that no choice is required. Simply take them both.

The upstream hike is easy enough and there is no jeep trail along this part of the Red. A faint footpath can be seen along portions of the creek. A mile or so up is an impressively noisy fall and then beyond that is a very large cave along the northern bank, maybe 75 to 100 feet high and more across. It has a colony of bats and bee hive high above the west entrance. It has obviously been a camp but the room sized boulders that have calved from the ceiling might make a restful night difficult for a cautious man. I saw no sign of glyphs. Farther along on the south bank are numerous smaller caves, large enough for a camp and one had recently been used.

Glorious rain began about this time. While just a gentle sprinkle, this area is renowned for impressive flash floods and I was in an area of steep side walls. Seeing debris high above me was enough to remind me that both life and wonderful adventures must end. I chose to end the adventure and return to the Jeep and the now slightly less dusty roads leading home. A few hours later I was greeted by a hand written sign on the door leading in from the garage commanding that I leave my filthy clothes and toys outside. I’m sure Mrs. Nessmuk had a similar sign.
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Mar 10 2013
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79 male
 Joined Dec 07 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Red CreekCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 10 2013
Oregon_HikerTriplogs 626
Hiking5.00 Miles 870 AEG
Hiking5.00 Miles
870 ft AEG
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A beautiful spring day for a hike down Red Creek to the Verde River. I had forgotten about the heavy rain earlier this week and had to 4x4 it through a few mud holes on the road past Seven Springs. There was water flowing across the road in numerous places but no more that a few inches deep. I drove in on FR18 to Red Creek and parked at the top of the grade where it drops into Red Creek Canyon. Red Creek was more like mud creek due to the recent rains and I soon found I had to wade in water higher than my boot tops to follow the creek down to the Verde. Having wet feet was OK but the gravel carried into my boots by the water was painful. The cotton woods were starting to leaf out but the Sycamores were still bare. There were some patches of yellow poppies on the south facing hill sides. I ran out of time before getting to the Verde due to getting a late start and taking some time to play with my new camera. So I had to turn around short of my goal and head back to the car. Made it home just in time for dinner.
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[ checklist ]  Mazatzal Mountains
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Dec 24 2012
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69 male
 Joined Jan 23 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Red CreekCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 24 2012
AZWanderingBearTriplogs 700
Hiking5.00 Miles 870 AEG
Hiking5.00 Miles   2 Hrs   15 Mns   2.22 mph
870 ft AEG
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Been wanting to hike Red Creek for a while. Brought the missus and a friend out today for an early Christmas Eve hike. Creek had a nice flow. Gorgeous area. Will come back for a backpacking trip someday.
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