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Mar 16 2013
ZCore13
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53 male
 Joined Jul 24 2010
 Prescott Valley,
Butte Creek Trail - City of PrescottPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 16 2013
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Hiking2.60 Miles 345 AEG
Hiking2.60 Miles
345 ft AEG
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Pretty easy hike. Not exactly sure if I ended at the PNF boundry or not. I hiked to a triple waterfall. Waterfall was flowing nicely and creek had a few inches of flowing water all the way. To get to the waterfalls there was some boulder climbing and a couple of times where you will have to get a good hand and foot hold to pull yourself up a small drop off.

All in all a relaxing hike to start the season.
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Aug 12 2012
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 Prescott Valley,
Gaddes Canyon #110Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 12 2012
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Hiking5.10 Miles 1,956 AEG
Hiking5.10 Miles   3 Hrs   50 Mns   1.33 mph
1,956 ft AEG
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Did this one this morning. Started at the top of Mingus off of 104B as described in the directions at the bottom of the info page. Nice and easy down. We were just talking and having a great time. Nothing special at the bottom. I prefer hikes with a little reward at the end (creek, swimming hole, look out tower, etc), but nice views all the way down.

Pretty good incline at some points getting up. Slight issue occurred. We got to the fork where there was a sign that said 110 to the right and a road to the left. We went right and walked for 10 minutes or so and then came to a huge downed tree with all the roots pulled out and sticking partially into the road. Neither one of us recognized this tree from the way down. How do you miss a HUGE downed tree partially blocking your path on the way down? This made us think we went the wrong way, so we turned around and went down the road. 10 to 15 minutes down that road and we saw some trees and rocks we didn't think we'd ever seen and the road just didn't look like the path we had taken. Back the other way and up toward the downed tree on 110 again. We get to the downed tree to exam it and see down into the canyon. We don't recall really noticing the bottom of the canyon on the way down. Back again to the road!! We walk up the road again, this time for about 20 minutes or so, past the unfamiliar part we stopped at last time. This time we get to some vehicle tracks through some mud. Good amount of mud. No way we could have missed that. We would have had to purposely avoid it or we would have fell in. Holy crap!! Back again, this time past the 110 sign to make sure we didn't miss any other trails.

We finally backtrack to a point that I remember seeing and turn around from there. No other trails. We get to the 110 sign again and decide we are taking this path and we are either getting to the truck or calling for help when we get to the top of wherever it's leading us. Turns out it was the correct path the whole time, but we were talking so much on the first half down that we missed pretty much all of the scenery, including the canyon, downed tree and other stuff. Quite a conversation I guess!

So all in all we turned a short 5 mile hike that should have taken less than 3 hours into about a 7 mile hike and 4 hours. We figure we were "lost" for about an hour and a half. Now I'm a little tired, a little sore and feeling stupid as I type this embarrassing description, but I do it in the hopes that it saves someone else (not likely anyone is as dumb as me) from the same issue.
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Aug 08 2012
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53 male
 Joined Jul 24 2010
 Prescott Valley,
Mount UnionPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 08 2012
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Hiking4.00 Miles 1,099 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   3 Hrs   15 Mns   1.23 mph
1,099 ft AEG
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After 2 years I made it back. This time I made it all the way up to the Forest Tower and it was worth it. About an hour and forty five up (with a few quick breather stops) and we were there. There was one difference from a two years ago. The last time there were multiple postings of active mine claims and you could see an old mine shaft through the trees at one point. This year I saw no mining claims and the trees and brush has overgrown the area where I could see the mine. I think I barely saw it just by memory of where it was last time, but if you didn't know it was there you'd never see it now. We did see a few squirrels and horned toad lizards, but no other wild life.

When we made it to the top there there was a gentleman in the Forest Service look-out tower. He waved and said hi and asked if we'd ever been here before. We said no and he said "I'll tell you the two best places for the best view. The best is up here and the second best is behind you on the helicopter landing pad." I thanked him and asked if we were allowed "up there"? He said yes and we climbed the tower as he opened the trap door in the floor to let us in.

WOW! What a view. The Ranger was so nice. He pointed out so many things in the distance. Four Peaks, Crown King, Chino Valley, Prescott, etc, etc. I can't even remember everything you could see so much. Amazing! He also mentioned that we were at the highest spot in Yavapai County.

Back down was a very easy 45 minute descent. I would call the hike up moderate and the hike down very easy. I'll definitely return in less than 2 years and take some more pictures. This hike helped me decide that I think I need a regular camera rather than just the cell phone camera.
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Feb 12 2011
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53 male
 Joined Jul 24 2010
 Prescott Valley,
Turkey Creek Trail #92Sedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 12 2011
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Hiking7.00 Miles 700 AEG
Hiking7.00 Miles   3 Hrs   15 Mns   2.15 mph
700 ft AEG
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Very nice hike to get back into the swing of things after the winter off. Well marked and a leisurely walk for the first 3 miles. Then a decent little climb up the side of House Mountain. Look around as you ascend as their are incredible views. Very enjoyable day!
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Sep 12 2010
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 Prescott Valley,
White Box & Hanging Gardens of WCCCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
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Canyoneering3.60 Miles 540 AEG
Canyoneering3.60 Miles   1 Hour   15 Mns   2.88 mph
540 ft AEG
Canyon Hiking - Non-technical; no rope; easy scrambling; occasional hand use
B - Up to light current; wading/swimming; possible wet/dry suit
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I can guarantee you 3 things about this hike.

1. Getting to it might be the worst road I've ever seen. An hour and fifteen minutes to travel 6 miles. Do not attempt to get to this hike if you have a stock car or 2wd truck. Even a stock 4wd truck will have some troubles. My truck is lifted 3" and I still hit bottom a couple of times. I would highly recommend a 4x4 with a lift.

2. This is not your standard beginners hike. If you are afraid of heights, slipping on loose dirt, insects or water animals (fish, crawdads, water spiders, etc), this is not the hike for you. For the beginning hiker. there are places on the hike down that you will probably have to scoot your way down on your butt. There are also spots that are very narrow. On the way up there is some tough footing and areas you may have to pull yourself up a little or at least brace yourself so you don't slip. I do not consider the hike down or up terribly dangerous, but it's not your normal day hike. I'd call it more of a mountain descent and ascent.

3. This has to be the greatest destination in Arizona. With everything said above, it's worth it. This place is incredible. The mix of the climb up and down, the rock hopping to move down and up stream and the swims/floats are INCREDIBLE! I recommend everyone take this hike next Summer, you will not regret it.

Now to the actual hike. Let's start first with how to get there. It seems some of the Forest Roads have changed since the driving directions on the main page of this hike. To save you from having to waste any time being lost like I was, here is an update to get yourself to the hike.

When you exit Highway 260 onto FR142 you will be on a dirt road and will immediately encounter a few other dirt roads. FR142 goes to the left. Do not take the first road you see on the right and do not continue straight. You will go to the left, even though it is unmarked. Eventually, when you are on FR142A you will see a sign for FR142J. FR142J is blocked by a HUGE tree. At the time of this writing, you can not get past it. Continue on 142A another 20 yards or so and you'll see an unmarked road. Take a left on it to bypass the downed tree. I never saw any signs for FR142B. As far as I can tell I went straight from FR142A to the FR142J bypass and then on to FR142J after getting by the large downed tree. Take FR142J all the way until it ends. It ends right at a camping spot with a camp fire on your left.

Now to start the trek down. The description on the main page says that the start of the trail down is slightly to the left. We looked left and couldn't find anything, so we decided to just start making our way down. We ended up traveling about half way down off the marked path. It seemed kind of strange, but we actually slid down slowly where the water runs down the mountain during/after a rain. We just didn't know any better. Later when we climbed up we followed the cairned path all the way up and ended up almost dead even with our truck. So if you park right at the end near the camp fire, just walk straight toward the canyon to find the start of the path.

As mentioned, the first half we made our own path down. It looked like others had gone that way before, but it definitely was not the main route down. No worn trail and no trail markings. About half way down we ran into the actual path and took it the rest of the way. Because of the slow going during the first half with not having an actual trail it took us about 45 minutes or so. It probably should take less than 30.

Once we made it all the way down, the scenery was beautiful. Huge rock walls around us and flowing water at our feet. When you first get down the water is very sparse. You have to walk/rock hop down steam about 10 minutes or so to get to the parts where you have to cross water and swim/float. Because of the water, I would recommend June/July/August as the times to go here. The water is probably about the same anytime, but the hot weather would be helpful to balance the cold water. We got out of the house too late, got lost finding the correct forest road and then didn't plan on taking an hour and fifteen minutes to go 6 miles, so we didn't make it to the end of the creek and the hanging gardens. We did a few swims with our tubes and then had to head back before it got too dark.

There is no doubt I will return next Summer with an earlier start and better knowledge. Hopefully my description will help others get to it with less problems and allow you to enjoy the area for a full day. A 9am or 10am start time would probably be ideal. You will also want some sort of water shoes, at least when you get down to the creek. Something like Teva's or the like that has a solid sole, but can be in the water when you are swimming/floating down stream. Taking off and putting on shoes would be a real hassle. Also, be VERY careful with slippery rocks. Consider every rock slippery and be prepared to slip/fall when walking through shallow parts of the creek. I would also suggest a water proof bag. We found a large one at Walmart for about $10 or $15. It was great. You throw your stuff in it and it keeps everything dry and it even floats on the water if you let it go or drop it.

In conclusion, add this destination to your wish list! You will not be sorry. It's well worth any hassles to get to it.
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Sep 05 2010
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53 male
 Joined Jul 24 2010
 Prescott Valley,
Marshall Lake to Fisher PointFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 05 2010
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Hiking12.00 Miles 570 AEG
Hiking12.00 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.18 mph
570 ft AEG
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A little late in posting this hike, since I did it 3 weeks ago, but better late than never I guess. To start with, the main page of this hike says it is 5 miles each way. It is actually about 6 miles each way. It is 4.7 miles from the Marshal Lake trail head to the bottom of Walnut Canyon, then another mile to either Fisher Point, or about 1.2 miles to the caves, which is where we went.

The hike from Marshal lake down is very easy. You follow the Arizona Trail and it's a dirt/rock trail all the way. One little strange thing we found though, for some reason the trail is rougher to walk on in some places then just walking off the trail into the grass. There are places with an uneven walking area or lots of rocks, just walk right next to the trail in the grass for a second and you'll get right around.

We started our hike around Noon and were disappointed we saw absolutely no wildlife at all the whole way. The wildlife is why we decided to take this hike, hoping to get some pictures of elk or deer. No animals for the full 6 miles down, although we did see some people coming from some camp grounds at the 4.7 mile mark. Some very nice views here and there, but nothing really special.

We arrived at the Fisher Point area, which is a short climb to an elevated area, which I assume just give you a good view of the canyon. Rather than do that, we continued to the right and found a few caves, including one that was a natural air conditioned cave. Much cooler and breezy on the inside than on the outside. A nice place to rest before the trek back.

The walk back was a little tougher. Uphill for most of the 6 miles. The one good thing was by the time we got to about 5 miles it was getting to be sundown and the wildlife was coming out. I guess the best time is either very early in the morning or at sundown. We saw 2 squirrels, 3 deer and about 6 or 6 elk. Our dog thinks squirrels are our cats and deer and elk are other dogs to play with, so she scared everything away before we could get any pictures. She stays home on the next hike with wildlife picture opportunities.

The whole hike was pretty uneventful compared to the other hikes we've taken. It was a challenge to do the longest hike we've done, but other than the few animal sightings, a nice meadow and a couple of nice picture moments, it was just an average hike for us.
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Aug 22 2010
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 Joined Jul 24 2010
 Prescott Valley,
Bob Bear Trail #18 - Fossil CreekCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 22 2010
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Hiking8.75 Miles 1,785 AEG
Hiking8.75 Miles   4 Hrs      2.19 mph
1,785 ft AEG
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We started the day thinking we were going to hike down Pivot Rock Canyon, but ended up finding Fossil Springs as a backup plan. When we got about half a few minutes into the Pivot Rock hike we found it was a very steep trail down and it had been raining a lot during the last few weeks. The trail down was wet and it didn't look like a good idea, especially with the dog. We heading out after only about 30 minutes in the area and went to look for somewhere else.

Luckily, the handy dandy cell phone with internet and HikeArizona.com available and we were able to find a close hike that looked interesting. Fossil Springs.

The 1300+ foot descent starts out easy, following a wide, easy road. The whole way down is pretty easy and we even mentioned the hike was a good hike for beginners. We saw 4 or 5 groups/families on our way down as they were heading up. We smiled and said hello, but none of them seems so happy. We would find out why later. The hike down took about an hour and a half with a few short stops for water and a breather. It was easy, but it was getting pretty warm. I think it got to the mid to upper 80's.

Once down to the springs it was very nice. Cool running water and some shady areas to sit. We only saw 2 other people there during the hour or so we spent. Sahara (the dog) loved the water and jumping around in it. I shoved her into a deeper area to cool her down and she swam out to the side. This is a very nice area and on a cooler day with more time we could have easily spent hours walking around and swimming.

Now to the hike out. I nightmare! Because we originally didn't plan on this hike, we really weren't prepared. We had only 6 bottles of water for the two adults and dog combined. By the time it was time to hike out we probably had 2 or 3 left. We did fill up a couple of bottles with the spring water, but it really didn't look like it was too clean. But in an emergency, I'm sure it would do the job.

The hike out was the complete opposite of the hike down. If I was smart enough (or experienced enough) I would have figured this out earlier. 1300+ feet down means 1300+ feet up later. With minimal water and the temperature at its peak, it was not fun. A little more than half way out and we were out of water, including the spring water that we gave to the dog, and I was getting cramps in my legs. After a couple of stops to try and get the legs cramps to stop, we remembered we had Propel powder in our bag. I ate a dry powder pack just to get the potassium out of it. It seemed to help a little, but the next steep climb area got the cramps going again. After two and a half hours we finally made it out, but it was not easy.

All in all it was a very nice hike and destination. I would caution others, especially beginners like us, to be prepared for this one. This is not a hike for out of shape people and probably not the best for the Summer heat. Spring and early fall would be my recommendation. But most of all, bring lots of water. We will definitely return more prepared.
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Aug 08 2010
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53 male
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 Prescott Valley,
Bixler Saddle Trail #72Flagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 08 2010
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Hiking4.00 Miles 1,050 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   2 Hrs   30 Mns   1.60 mph
1,050 ft AEG
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Our third hike and for the second time out of three, we didn't make it to our hoped for destination. We started this hike too late in the day and ended up at Bixler saddle just as storms were starting to roll in and we were afraid it could start to get dark if we continued. Hopefully we'll get smarter as we get more experienced.

The hike started out nicely, with a view of our final destination from the trail head. A nice peaceful walk for the first 30 minutes or so turned into quite a scare when our dog, who always leads the way, suddenly stopped, looked into the wooded distance, heard a noise and then ran the other way. I also heard the noise. It was like a hissing noise, maybe like a cat would make, but it wasn't a cat. It stopped me in my tracks too. Sahara (the dog) was on a leash, but she pulled me in the opposite direction and would not continue. I looked into the woods as my wife backed away, but I couldn't see or hear anything. We were just a few days away from getting our first gun, so no protection at all if something were to come out. I waited for a minute or two, scanning the entire area, but still couldn't see anything. I tried to pull the Sahara, but she planted herself and she refused to continue. My wife said she wanted to stop and go back, but I didn't want to end our hike after 30 minutes. It took 2 1/2 to drive there!

After about 5 minutes of mostly fear, I was able to slowly pull Sahara past the point where she stopped. She was definitely scared of something, but once we got past it, or where it used to be, she was fine. My wife followed and although very scared herself, we moved on and after a short while, the fear went away. I have no idea what the animal was, but I'm glad it somehow left without us seeing it. I was told afterward that it could have been a possum, but I have no idea?

The rest of the hike from that point until we made it to Bixler Saddle was very cool. Pines, Oaks, lots of green vegetation and some great views. It had rained 4 or 5 times in the last few weeks, so everything was green and a good part of the path had been overgrown. Not enough to need to cut anything back, but you can tell the rain has really helped the area. It also seems like this trail is not that widely traveled. We saw nobody on the way up or down and the overgrowth and a downed tree we had to climb over seemed to be signs of sparse use.

As mentioned above, the goal was to make it to Bill Williams L.O., but once we go to Bixler Saddle and the start of trail #21, we thought it best to turn back and try the full hike another day. We did look up the trail a bit and the rocks and trees were all mossy just as #21 starts. It looked like beautiful sceneory would have been in store for us had we continued.

The hike down was uneventful and took much less time then the hike up. We passed the scary point with no troubles and made it back to the truck and on the road just before the rain started coming down. We will definitely be back for the full hike with an earlier start next time!
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Jul 25 2010
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 Joined Jul 24 2010
 Prescott Valley,
Mount UnionPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 25 2010
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Hiking3.00 Miles 850 AEG
Hiking3.00 Miles   1 Hour   15 Mns   2.40 mph
850 ft AEG
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Well a day after my wife and I took our first real hike that wasn't just a flat path, we tried another. This time Mount Union with our newly adopted dog.

The hike up was nice, even for a July afternoon. Huge trees block most of the sun from coming through. It was in the upper 80's in Prescott and I would guess it was only upper 70's during our hike. As we got into the switch back section we saw an old abandoned mine through the trees to the right. There were great views of the forest, Prescott's trees and trees toward Phoenix.

When we got to about the 1.5 mile mark and approximately 45 minutes of hiking, there was a clearing and signs directing us to different directions for hiking path 284 or 285. 284 to the right is where the tower is supposed to be, but the factors of us and the dog being tired and the fact that we saw two of the largest piles of poo we'd ever seen scared us back down the trail. We decided that the revolver that we were going to purchase next week would have been a good idea today, if we were to run into some sort of animal like a bear.

A 30ish minute hike back down the trail got us up and down 3 miles in about an hour and fifteen minutes. Not bad in our opinion, but we will definitely go the full distance the next time.
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Jul 24 2010
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 Prescott Valley,
Camp Verde Cliff DwellingsCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 24 2010
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Hiking1.32 Miles 450 AEG
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450 ft AEG
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Fun hike, although a little too hot in July. This was our first ever hike with a climb included and my wife and I enjoyed it. Fairly easy most of the way, the last 50 yards to the actual cliff caves is a little tougher. You have to be in shape and not afraid of heights to make it all the way to the caves.

The recent rains seem to have eroded the top level of dirt of the last half of the trail, exposing pottery artifacts all over and around the trail. The caves themselves show signs of the old inhabitants, with smoke stained ceilings viewable in most of them.

What a view when you make it to the caves. You can definitely see why they chose to live in this difficult to get to spot. You can see for miles and nobody would be able to sneak up on them without them being completely prepared.

We did not attempt to go all the way to the top of the mountain above the caves. It didn't seem prudent for us at forty something. In my twenties maybe, but getting to the caves was rewarding enough.
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