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Aug 02 2025
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Drew - See loop, AZ 
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Katie wanted to hike on the Rim today, so we opted for the Drew-See Canyon loop. East on Highline to start. Warm. Zero breeze. Saw an Arizona Black rattler. Katie wondered why the only time she sees rattlers, I am present. It’s a mystery.

Took our time up Drew trail. Still no breeze. Once up top, we went north of the campground and headed west on Aspen, Carr, and General Crook. Finally, a nice breeze. Saw a horned lizard and a coyote.

Warm hike down See Canyon. The trail is in rough shape in places, and a fair amount of deadfall. Lost the breeze again. Skipped the spring. Some water in the creek, but not much. Nice loop, and good to catch up with Katie.

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Loop via Highline - Drew - GC - See, AZ 
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With some slightly cooler weather in the forecast during the week and some time on my hands, I figured I'd pop up to the rim country for another hike. I'd initially planned on hitting up one of the more popular hikes I haven't done (Derrick-Highline-Horton), but with rain over the weekend and recent triplogs mentioning sticky mud post precipitation on Derrick, I pivoted to another nearby hike that I anticipated might also benefit from a weekday visit. With my general preference for loop hikes, I saw that some had made a loop out of the See Canyon Trailhead, and I figured I'd follow their example.

Met up well after sunrise to make the uneventful drive up to the rim - spotted a few folk camping out on the road to the trailhead and arrived to find two other vehicles parked in the lot. There were some low clouds perched atop the rim when we arrived, and a chance of thundershower activity in the forecast for mid afternoon. With the recent rains and additional precipitation in the forecast, it was a bit sticky, but the temps were pleasantly cool.

Heading out from the parking area, we walked a short distance before crossing the creek to the See Canyon/Highline junction - opting to do the hike counter clockwise, we started our gradual climb up towards the rim - I imagine fall colors must be quite beautiful with the mix of oak and maple along with the evergreens. The initial climb went by relatively quickly with occasional views through the trees before we found ourselves at the barbed wire gate and the junction with the Drew Trail (marked with blue diamonds) where it was evident there was still more climbing to be done with the top of the mogollon still high above us. After a brief respite from the climb with some open views, the trail took off again at a steeper grade, surfacing on the rim near a camping area and crossing a dirt road. Once on the rim, the Drew continues through heavily thinned forest (turns out all the orange on the trees was to denote "leave tree" for logging operations - at least this is the convention used in Coconino NF) before hitting the General Crook Trail (marked with white chevrons). Walking along the General Crook started off as a nice single-track path, which eventually devolved into following an obvious old dirt road. While the track was easy to follow, the walking was decidedly mundane. The trail eventually reverted back to more of a walking path (marked with a combination of chevrons on trees and pink flags in the ground) while paralelling the Rim Road before departing the General Crook to start dropping quickly into the Christopher Creek Drainage via the See Canyon trail.

Aside from the steep descent, the hike back to the parking area travels through some really lush, wonderfully green forest (be aware that there is poison ivy in the area adjacent to the trail). The canyon was dry in the upper reaches, but we eventually passed an area where water could be heard (and seen below). Continuing down canyon, the water seemed to disappear briefly before resurfacing again. When we passed the junction with the offshoot to See Spring, neither of us was particularly interested in the detour, so we continued on back to the car.

During the hike, the clouds lifted off the rim, but looked to be building again as we were starting our drive back towards the valley. Thanks for joining me and driving, Wally! It was good to squeeze in another moderate-distance hike before the heat severely hampers my hiking.

Other hikers: one backpacker coming down the highline trail, one trailrunner along the general crook trail.

Wildlife: Heard an owl, got sassed by some fat squirrels, chased some butterflies (but didn't get any photos), photographed an uncooperative horned lizard, heard plenty of birdsong, and spotted a few deer on the rim.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Christopher Creek @ Highline Trail Medium flow Medium flow
Rock hop your way across.
The springs in the canyon must be flowing, though volume is unconfirmed (didn't go and check actual spring locations). Higher up in the canyon, the drainage is dry - the water surfaces, then goes underground, then resurfaces again.

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Loop via Highline - Drew - GC - See, AZ 
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Stephanie planned a loop on the rim and I went along to enough some cooler hiking. Highline/Drew trails went up, up, up. General Crook trail went up about 200 feet but seemed level. See Canyon went down, down down.

Stephanie took an inventory of the flora along the way. We saw 3 deer up on the rim. We only passed 1 hiker and a trail runner on the hundred flower loop. A breeze and some cloud cover helped with the humidity.

The trails up and down were well defined but the General Crook trail had a few direct roads and grass filled trails sections that made a GPS useful. It seemed the upper area was open and scenic but no elk were out and about.

The drive through Payson was easy and the road were not busy. Last tine through there was much more traffic. Thanks for the hike Stephanie and the nice triplog with the details.
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Normally I would go up to See Canyon to check out fall foliage earlier in the month than this, but with the fall foliage being later than usual up there this year I decided to wait until today.

From the See Canyon TH we went east on the Highline Trail towards Drew to an area 1.5 miles or so from the TH that has a concentration of bigtooth maples for about 1/3 of a mile. Then we went back to the See Canyon Trail and went up to See Spring. After that we went back to the See Canyon Trail and went up the canyon to about 7,000 feet of elevation.

The maples were really nice at the target destination on the Highline Trail -- I would describe the foliage as "substantial" or possibly even "extreme" in this area. The bigtooths are definitely in full bloom here!

We saw some nice color going up towards See Spring, but I would describe them as being "moderate" -- a lot of leaves were still green and there wasn't the abundance of color that I have seen there in the past.

While there were some maples "blooming" around the TH, the color was fairly light for the most part on the lower portion of the See Canyon Trail. However, as we gained elevation the fall foliage got much better. Once we got to about 6,700 feet or so the colors started to explode, and I'd once again describe the foliage in that section as "substantial" right now.

As the weather cools off I would think that there will be more color in the lower part of See Canyon in the coming days, but who knows.

The temperature was 36 at the start of the hike and it was 54 when we finished -- in other words a really nice day for hiking!

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There is some nice fall foliage in some parts of this hike, and I am glad that I went up there today.
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Foliage ranged from light to substantial/extreme depending on which part of the area you go

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Spur of the moment early morning hike and was surprised with some the prettiest fall colors I’ve seen in a long time. Unfortunately this formerly quiet trailhead is no longer quiet as evidenced by the hoards of people coming in while I was leaving.
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Bear Canyon Lake via See Canyon, AZ 
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Two separate bear encounters on the canyon descent to the lake from the rim road. Neither one ran or seemed to care I was there. Also like yesterday, a big group of turkeys were in one of the meadows. A more peaceful lake than Woods Canyon, but as usual, lots of trash along the shorelines.
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This was my first time doing this loop and it was enjoyable. We hiked up Drew and down See. We started at 7:15 to a basically empty trailhead.

Nice pleasant hiking along the Highline and up Drew. Some great forest through there. A lot of stately white pines, ponderosa and firs along the way. We lucked out with a few relatively deep mud puddles along the rim for Dot to lay in. The upper portions of See were excellent, but there was a bit of deadfall here and there. The trail started to feel pretty hot and humid for a bit and it dragged on some, as Dot and I waited patiently for her to get to some nice flowing water. The flowing section was a treat and Dot took several opportunities to cool down after that. A packed trailhead when we finished and a warm 86 degrees. Route Scout tracked a little high today, not sure why, but the miles seem high. We stirred up a Black Rattler along See.

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First trip up north in awhile. The elevation usually gets me above 7000 feet. Today was no different.

I hiked out to a point that I’ve been to before. I wanted to do the loop with Drew, but I didn’t bring enough water (it was warmer than expected). I returned the same way.

81 degrees at 2pm when I finished. Didn’t see many people out.
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Got started from the See Canyon trailhead around 0745 with Bruce & Chris. East on Highline. Lots of dried mud on the trail, must’ve been a mess a couple of weeks ago. Up Drew Trail. I always like ascending Drew thanks to the mostly moderate incline.

Once up top, we walked thru the campground to Carr Trail. Nothing exciting there. Carr & General Crook are just a walk thru the pines. Lots of downed trees. Cool breeze. I was happy to see some clouds forming.

Descended See Canyon, which was in relatively decent condition—better than the last time I was on it. Two tiny patches of snow near the top. A couple of water crossings lower down. One little boy gave me a flower, cute. More clouds made for some nice intermittent shade. Only really saw other hikers once below See Spring.

Nice easy hike, good conversation and banter.

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Linda invited me to join her and Chris so they had someone to pick on all day. We did an old favorite CCW from the See Canyon TH. We were the first car in the lot, that was near full on our return.

Perfect weather heading through the green maples along the Highline with only a few MTB'ers encountered. The climb up drew was relatively easy.

When we reached the rim to the Fr 9350 Campground (which I was shocked to find out was a no-cost campground) , the smell of campfires and breakfast was in the air.

We made our way west on the Aspen and General Crook trail to See Canyon. There are some downed trees along this section that were easily navigated. I pointed out the Promontory V63 tree to Linda and Chris.

See Canyon trail was easy going, even with some blowdowns from the winter. We passed 2 women going up, until we hit the onslaught of people starting at the See Spring intersection.

Good hiking with Linda and Chris again, even though they picked on me unmercifully all day long. I'm not sure what I did to deserve that.

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See Canyon Trail to Bear Canyon Lake, AZ 
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On Saturday 4/21, Milo and I took a 15 mile day hike up See Canyon Trail to Bear Canyon Lake. The forest road to the TH is a little rough for first 0.5 miles, but then it becomes much better. Easily accessible with passenger vehicle, just need to drive very slow.
There is still a fair amount of snow up on the rim, but it is patchy (depends on tree coverage and which way slopes are facing). Will probably be another two weeks before everything melts and roads are completely passable with cars. We had to cross about a dozen creeks (some of them wide) and the lake outlet. I had to pull Milo through the first two crossings, after that he was fine. Our feet were wet/dry all day.
We left TH at 7:20 am. First 3.5 miles is all uphill with about 1,600 ft elevation gain. There are no trail markers of any kind for the first two miles, but the trail is very easy to follow. There are tree markers after first two miles (probably since there is snow coverage from that point forward in the winter and it lingers well into April). The trail has very good tree coverage, which is nice in the summer to provide lots of shade for almost the entire uphill. However, the downside is that there is still some minor snow on the trail from about miles 3.0 to 3.25. Took us just under two hours to get to the rim, but we didn’t stop at all and didn’t even drink anything. We took a short 20 min break to have a snack and drink at the top and then headed towards the lake via FR300 and then FR89.
It was nice not having any vehicles on the road and the forest roads would be very easy to follow even in the winter. It was another 3.5 miles to the lake that took us about 1:30 including our 20 min break. Spent about 30 minutes eating our lunch at the lake at the bench (it is the only one, so I am glad we did) and left at around 11:30 am. Then we followed the trail around the west side of the lake for 1.5 miles (easy to follow with blue reflectors) to the southern end where a creek feeds the lake. It was another 0.5 miles to get to the farthest southern end with the small island outcropping. There is still snow covering trail on southern end, but easily navigable with the blue tree markings.
We were going to take Trail 208 from southern end of lake to FR208, but there was still lots of snow here. It would have been difficult to find the trail, so I just decided to go off trail and aim for FR208. After about 0.5 miles, we came upon FR208 as expected. We followed FR208 for 1 mile and then went off trail again for about 0.25 miles to cut off 0.75 miles and meet back up with FR300. I think next time, I will just stay on the forest roads because the shortcut was down/up/down/up through some fairly steep terrain (especially in winter with snowshoes, it would be much harder). Aimed for off target to the west side so that we could easily find See Canyon trail by turning left.
It was another 3.5 miles back down See Canyon to TH. We left the top around 1:40 and made it back down in about 1:40 at around 3:30 pm
The 15 miles took us 7:45 that included about 1 hour of breaks, a little route finding through the snow, a little backtracking to find optimal places to cross creeks, and stopping for pictures. Would definitely do this hike again (in the summer and winter), but I think I will go counterclockwise especially if I go in the winter so that it is easier to follow trail from FR208 to the lake and it would be shorter (3.5 + 2.7). 15 miles in winter with snowshoes would definitely take more than 8 hours, so it might be just a trip to southern end of lake and then back out the same way. I included picture of our actual route (red) and the trail route (blue) had we not went off trail.
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Kriket finally got to see, See Spring. : wink :
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john picked this loop from a couple of fall color options today
we got going around 0800
mid 30s to start, no breeze, very nice hiking conditions, maybe mid 60s when we finished
east on highline, up drew, northwest on a combination of roads and trails, down see canyon
a few maples on the drive in, around the trailhead and along parts of highline
past prime oak and aspen up on the rim
we took a break about halfway along the upper section
see canyon was nice once we got down a few hundred feet
lots of prime maple trees
kind of hard to gawk while watching footing
we did not go to the spring today
saw one hiker near the finish, and quite a few people around christopher creek near the trailhead
well worth a visit to see canyon
thai food in payson on the way home
nice day, thanks john :)
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Kelly wanted to do an "interesting" hike, so I chose this from several of her options.
The hike up to the rim warmed us up from the mid 30's morning temps. Hiking the few miles across the rim was a little uninteresting, but nice and quiet.
Fall colors were past prime in most areas, but still very pretty.
Didn't see anyone until the end of the hike.
Fun day. Thanks for lunch Kelly! :)
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We went looking for fall colors, and were not disappointed. We took the last open parking spot at the trailhead. Many people were within 200 yards of the trailhead, taking in the fall ambiance. The colors were sporadic during the first mile, with a mix of green, yellow, and orange. The See Spring trail had scattered clusters of maples with vibrant colors. We then returned to the See Canyon Trail, and the colors became more impressive as we ascended. Some areas were fully saturated, with brilliant red, orange, and yellow leaves permeating the trees as well as carpeting the ground. We had to turn around before we reached the top, as we had to return to Phoenix early for other obligations. We definitely were pleased with the abundance of color. The creek was flowing nicely. There were 3 easy creek crossings each way.

There were numerous people (and dogs) along the first mile and throughout the See Spring trail, with occasional trash (including used dog poop bags along the trail). Beyond the intersection of the See Canyon and See Spring trails, we saw only 2 other groups of people.
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Not yet peak foliage within a mile of the trailhead. Maples at peak along the See Springs Trail. Foliage at or just past peak along ascent up the Rim.

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I wanted to check out the fall foliage on the See Canyon Trail, so I decided to do a clockwise loop hike that basically went up to the Rim on the See Canyon Trail and came down off the rim on the Drew Trail.

Once up on the Rim, we made our way to the Drew Trail via the General Crook Trail and the Carr Lake Trail. After descending the Drew Trail, we made our way back to the trailhead on the Highline Trail.

Leaves were a mixed bag. There was a bit of color around the trailhead and on the See Canyon Trail for a short distance to the first creek crossing. Then almost all the maple leaves were green all the way to See Spring. Color started getting good on the See Canyon Trail about a mile past the See Spring Trail junction, and the maples were really nice from about 6,900 feet to 7,500 feet, or thereabouts.

On the way back on the Highline Trail, there were some nice colors also, but many of the trees along this section of the Highline Trail were past peak.

Synopsis
It was an enjoyable day in the Rim country, even if the foliage at the lower elevations of See Canyon weren't yet ready for prime time.

Route Scout added an extra 1.1 miles to the hike, so the stats above are those that I recorded the other time that I did this hike.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Foliage varied on the hike. Foliage was "substantial" on the upper part of the See Canyon Trail, but was "isolated" on the lower part of the trail and at See Spring.
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Promontory plus, AZ 
Promontory plus, AZ
 
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Hiking19.42 Miles 3,542 AEG
Hiking19.42 Miles   6 Hrs   51 Mns   3.01 mph
3,542 ft AEG      24 Mns Break
 
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Nice burn before the crazy monsoon deluge. Also didn't know that the Promontory area was closed.
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Carr Loop #412 - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking18.55 Miles 2,422 AEG
Hiking18.55 Miles   6 Hrs   36 Mns   2.98 mph
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This hike started out both cool and warm simultaneously because of the wind. The primary goal was the Carr Loop #412 on the rim, but I'm just not down with the fossil fuels rule cult or maybe just call me a lazy approacher. Those upper rim, forest bath loops just don't seem like a worthwhile drive, plus why not add some mileage and AEG. Similar to what The_Eagle described in his recent Mogollon hike, I also encountered a black bear, but in See Canyon early Saturday morning. A mile in, at dawn, the black silhouette was foraging within a rotted deadfall. At first, it didn't recognize I was there, then we locked eyes briefly, but fortunately it turned and hightailed up canyon. Of course, following the trail in the same direction I'm wanting to hike. I haven't had many wildlife encounters that get the juices flowing more than encountering a bear solo, eight feet eye-to-eye. Onward, you only live once! Regardless of what people have said about the See Canyon Trail being worked, this is still an obscure route. There are at least ten large deadfalls crumpled across the trail and a lot of overgrowing vegetation. The core part of this canyon seems even more wild than quite a few of Arizona's designated wildernesses. I'm all for multiuse trails, strongly believing each group can coexist. However, there's an Allfails route that lists See Canyon as a mountain bike descent route. Good luck with that! I think this one qualifies, similarly as the MLC in SoMo, in that please carry your bike elsewhere. The General Crook Trail section near the Promontory Lookout Tower has been almost completely destroyed by a recent logging. It is now obscure and difficult to follow in places. At least I thought this was the General Crook Trail, since both Allfails and HAZ route this trail section on different sides of the rim road. It's not a pleasant section to hike anyway, considering the hillbilly side-by-side action relentlessly producing noise and dust from the rim road. No clacking tree frogs yet either.

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