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Deer Springs Trail - 7 members in 9 triplogs have rated this an average 4.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Sep 01 2025
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 Tempe, AZ
San Jacinto via Fuller Ridge, CA 
San Jacinto via Fuller Ridge, CA
 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking16.76 Miles 4,505 AEG
Hiking16.76 Miles   7 Hrs   4 Mns   2.65 mph
4,505 ft AEG      44 Mns Break
 
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It's been 10 years since I stood atop Sanjay and while I was a completely broken man that first time, I figured a more moderate route from the Idyllwild side would be a nice change of pace.

Car camping on a holiday weekend and fairly warm temperatures at the lower elevations made the decision of which of the four west side route options an easy one for us. Fuller Ridge it would be! While the starting elevation for this one is a little bit higher, the ridge trail features a number of ups and downs, so you end up climbing most of the elevation you would have gotten starting from the trailheads down closer to town.

We set out around 7 with a temp of 59. It wouldn't get over 65 until we were well on our way back down, making it a near-perfect day to be doing this one. The first mile or two heads east, so the morning sun occasionally broke through the trees right in our eyes. Luckily the canopy was dense enough to limit those occurrences.

Early breaks in the trees provided excellent views north to San Gorgonio, and eastward scenes down into the Coachella Valley. We passed the wilderness sign about 1.5 miles in, though strangely it was nowhere near where the wilderness boundary is shown on maps. The trail began a steeper climb — and finally welcome switchbacks — as we approached Castle Rocks and the top of the ridge.

From here, views that had been only north and east, revealed the terrain on the south and west side of the ridge. We descended a bit to traverse below the rugged ridge above before climbing to the crest once again. After a short stretch up high, the trail again descended on the west side into a magnificently wooded old forest. The trail construction here was as good as you'll find anywhere.

About a quarter mile before reaching the Deer Springs junction, the trail crossed the North Fork San Jacinto River, where we took a break and enjoyed the sound of flowing water. From the Deer Springs junction, we headed uphill toward Little Round Valley, where there was barely a trickle of water. This is a popular camping area and I noticed a tent in the distance, but saw no other signs of activity here.

Above LRV, the trail follows some very moderate switchbacks and despite the grinding elevation gain, it was easy to set a comfortable pace and stick to it. Three hours and over seven miles into a Labor Day hike, we encountered our first other people, a group of backpackers who had camped at LRV and were making their way over the pass en route to their tram ride home.

At the summit junction I took a short breather and met up with a trio that had started at Marion in the predawn hours. A few minutes later, we were on the summit, along with a handful of others, most of whom had come up from the tram.

We took the requisite photos and had a snack break before returning the way we came. We passed by two groups on their way up, but otherwise that was it for people today. The last 5 miles was pure solitude; PCT, cool weather, holiday weekend; no matter!

There's about a half mile stretch south of Castle Rocks where the trail traverses the west-facing slope of Fuller Ridge, and it's a bit exposed. The afternoon sun made its presence known, though a couple of clouds tried to help. After that, the last 2 miles are completely shaded so the 72 degree temperature was still very tolerable.

We were down the mountain and on I-10 in under an hour, and back home in under 6 total, including stops for fuel and dinner. This was a great way to round out a Gorgonio-Jacinto twofer weekend and a perfect way to kick off September!

I really enjoyed the Fuller Ridge trail as it made it more of a regular hike and not just a straight up and then straight down peak bag. Highly recommend!
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Aug 29 2023
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mount San Jacinto, CA 
Mount San Jacinto, CA
 
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Hiking14.65 Miles 5,464 AEG
Hiking14.65 Miles   8 Hrs   54 Mns   2.07 mph
5,464 ft AEG   1 Hour   50 Mns Break
 
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In 2015 we hiked San Jacinto Peak for Cactus to Clouds from the Palm Springs side. After that hike I was looking at the map thinking it would be fun to summit from the opposite side. Finally setup the hike and decided on starting from Marion Mountain Trailhead. There is a sign at the trailhead that says 5 1/4 to the summit but that's is clearly incorrect based on our mileage and what nearly every other post that we read indicated. So we just assumed around 15 miles for the day. :)

Started hiking about 6am up the pretty steep climb right away. This hike is front loaded so the steepest stuff is in the first 3.5 miles. It's also chewed up in spots from erosion and the lack of trail construction doesn't help. However, if needing water there were several really good creeks to filter from. Eventually we reached the PCT junction which changed the trail into a super highway. Unfortunately we were only on the PCT for about 1/2 mile. We took a break at the junction to refuel for the second half of the climb.

After the break the trail was definitely better from the lower section. At around 5 miles we reached Little Round Valley campground which had some nice campsites. The campground is pretty high at about 9800 feet and we didn't see anyone camped although later we ran into a woman who said she was camped there. From Round Valley the trail was pretty nice up to the junction just below the summit where the trail intersects with the Tramway side.

Another 15 minutes or so and we reached the summit. Up to this point we had seen very few people but it was a Tuesday. Even better on the summit we had it all to ourselves. We spent a good 25 to 30 minutes break on the summit expecting someone would show up but that never happened.

After the break we hiked back down the same way we came up. We encountered a few more people still ascending but not many. Took one more break on the descent at the PCT junction. Overall great hike and happy that we were able to summit from the Idyllwild side this time.
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Suicide Rock, CA 
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Hiking7.15 Miles 1,845 AEG
Hiking7.15 Miles   3 Hrs   42 Mns   2.31 mph
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Off day from doing SoCal peaks we decided to check out Suicide Rock from the Deer Springs trailhead. It's pretty close to the town of Idyllwild so a good jump off point to explore many other trails. We got a late start and it was already warm even at 6,000 feet. Gnats were also an issue being lower down but they did get better higher up. The trail climbs through mixed oak and conifer forest until it reaches the junction with Suicide Rock Trail at about 2 miles.

From there followed Suicide Rock trail a mile to the rock overlook but we passed a few drainages with flowing water along the way. At the overlook we had nice views of the San Jacinto Wilderness and the town of Idyllwild below. Took a long break as we had no time schedule to keep. Good breeze kept the gnats away and cooled things off a bit.

After the break it was back down the same trail. There is a great network of trails on the Idyllwild side of San Jacinto Wilderness. The PCT also goes through area but the trails and multiple backcountry campsites make it a fun area to explore!
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 Tucson, AZ
Suicide Rock Trail - 3E33Big Bear - Jacinto, CA
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fricknaleyTriplogs 4,124
Hiking7.50 Miles 1,808 AEG
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we did the classic suicide rock hike from deer springs TH.

great hike through and through. beautiful forest ascent, then some outstanding views over idyllwild and of tahquitz from the slabs of the summit. had a great picnic up there. hardly anyone up there despite a popular hike. weather was unbelievable - a few sprinkles then mixed sun and clouds. mid 70's :)
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Jun 22 2019
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Loop Hike to Mount San Jacinto, CA 
Loop Hike to Mount San Jacinto, CA
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking19.60 Miles 5,404 AEG
Hiking19.60 Miles   9 Hrs   49 Mns   2.62 mph
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What a great and amazing hike that this one turned out to be!

This is a clockwise lollipop loop hike that starts and ends at the Deer Springs TH, which is about 1 mile from the center of the neat little town of Idyllwild, CA.

The hike goes up the west side of Mount San Jacinto, which is nice since you avoid the crowds coming up the mountain from the Tram on the east side. Mount San Jacinto has just over 8,300' of topographic prominence, making it the 6rh most prominent peak in the continental US.

The hike began by taking the Deer Springs Trail. After about 4 miles we came to Strawberry Junction, and began the loop part of the hike. After 9 miles or so we came to a junction of the Deer Springs Trail with the Peak Trail-Mount San Jacinto. This junction is 0.3 miles below the summit, and from there we took the Peak Trail up to the summit. It is a fairly easy hike on the Peak Trail up to the summit, and just below the summit you pass an emergency shelter that was built by the CCC in 1933. There is a bit of easy class 3 rock scrambling just below the summit, but there is no exposure.

On the way back, we took the Peak Trail to the east to Wellman Divide. The Peak Trail is fairly busy because it is the route up the summit for hikers that take the Palm Springs Aerial Tramway up to the Mountain Tram Station. From the tram station it is an 11 mile round trip hike to the Mount San Jacinto Summit.

Once at Wellman Divide we took the Wellman Cienega Trail to Saddle Junction, and then from there we took the Strawberry Cienega Trail back to Strawberry Divide, thus completing the loop.

The Deer Springs Trail was the champion of this hike, and it is one of the nicest trails that I have ever hiked on. There are lots of wildflowers, interesting rock outcroppings, huge boulder, and lots of huge trees in the dense forest-- black oak, white fir, ponderosa pine, Jeffrey pine, and sugar pine, among others.

This hike is a keeper for me -- it was nice avoiding the crowds by going up the west side of the peak. Coming down the east side had some awesome views, although the trail was a bit crowded until we got past Wellman Divide.
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 Gilbert, AZ
Deer Springs TrailBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
Big Bear - Jacinto, CA
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Backpack16.00 Miles
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Wanted to do a quick backpack through the San Jacinto mountains while I was in California for a short time. Didn't get to begin my hike at the trail head at Idyllwild until 11:30 on Friday. It took me 5.5 hours to get to my destination, which was Little Round Valley campground. The elevation gain combined with the heat of the day and a lack of sleep caused me to move a bit slow up the mountain.

The scenery was incredible. The granite boulders were white, contrasted with gorgeous massive trees. The trail was very well marked, and the views were amazing. There were plenty of water sources along the way, especially past the intersection with Seven Pines Trail. I passed a Conservation Corps crew working on the trail, and they called out HIKER!, then asked my name, and called out my name. Very friendly people working very hard to make an excellent trail.

I loved the campsites at Little Round Valley. Each required a trek past the horizontal sign to find the vertical post. My site was beautiful and comfortable. A stream ran through the middle of the camp ground.

Made the trek down in 3 hours and 40 minutes. Passed probably 40 people coming up the mountain. Short trip, but loved every minute of it!!
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Deer Springs TrailBig Bear - Jacinto, CA
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Hiking10.00 Miles 5,000 AEG
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My original plan was to do Cactus to Clouds. Wednesday night, all ready to go, parked at lot across the street from the Palm Springs art museum, set to crash for the night and wake up early to get started up the Skyline trail. I decided to double check the Tram schedule, and..."CLOSED for annual maintenance", "Tentative" opening on Saturday. ](*,) With that bit of bad news, I needed a plan B. I was not going to hike 10,000 AEG and then back down into the heat. A quick internet search of alternate trails up to Mt. San Jacinto peak and I was driving around the mountain to Idyllwild. I parked at the trail head and slept in the back of the truck and got started at 7am. Great trail and perfect weather! I came across a Conservation Corps crew building a new trail about 3/4 the way up, chainsaws and jackhammers were not the sounds I expected to hear on my way to the top. Then around Little Round valley I ran into a very nice couple from Australia on their way back down after summiting. I got to the top at 2:30 pm after 7:30 hours :y: . Cool and breezy up top with views to die for. Simply amazing 360 degree views of Palm Springs, Banning, San Bernardino, Idyllwild, Salton Sea etc. I had the summit to myself for about 15 minutes then I was joined by a gentleman who was doing the day hike thing. After numerous photos and standing on top of the world, I went back down to Little Round Valley and set up camp. I forgot my thermometer, but based on internet weather search I'd agree it got down into the low 40's. With nice down top and bottom quilts, I was warm in my hammock. Despite my warmth, I didn't sleep well, I am assuming due to not acclimatizing to the altitude. Kept waking up feeling short of breath. Anyway, woke up and got started back down around 9am and made it back to the truck by 12:30. A lot of folks heading up, met some nice people whom I might hike with soon. Over all a great hike with awesome views! Highly recommend it!
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Turkey Creek Trail #34Tucson, AZ
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Hiking12.94 Miles 4,825 AEG
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This is actually part of a two-day backpack, I split it into two triplogs because I wanted to keep track of monthly mileage.

Last weekend we did Rincon Peak, which got us into a mood to explore more of the Rincons. Plus what a better way to follow-up one tough hike than with a tough backpack!

We car camped at the trailhead on Friday night so that we wouldn't have to get up really early to start hiking. In the morning we were greeted by a few turkeys - which is appropriate since the Trail is called Turkey Creek. The first half of this hike is in juniper/grasslands and a burn area with scrub oak and manzanita. Therefore, it can be quite hot. We lucked out because it was windy this weekend which kept the heat at bay.

The first 1.5 miles is on a jeep road which has several steep sections as well as uneven tracks which means we didn't want to take our Outback on it. Instead we hiked. Once the road ended we headed off on the trail which followed a ridge line and the skirted around a hill to the Saguaro National Park boundary (3 miles). After another quarter to half mile, we signed the Park registry and then started the steep ascent. For about another mile, we were in the old burn area, so we didn't want to take a break. We waited until we finally reached some tall trees and then we rested for a bit. From there it wasn't too far to Mud Hole Spring, which surprisingly had about an 1-2 inches of water in the catchment. From there it is a very long and steep 1 (or 1.2) miles to Deer Head Spring through juniper and pine forest. Deer Head Spring did not have any standing water. There was no catchment, which might explain why there wasn't any standing water. The ground was slightly wet. From there it was just a little bit up to the Deer Head Springs Trail which we took to the cut-off for Spud Rock Springs Campground.

Spud Rock Springs Campground is one of my favorite in the Rincons. Both times we've stayed here we haven't encountered other humans. Campsite #1 is great for larger parties. However, it is close to the toilets. The old one is still in operation, while the new one might be ready to go if you don't mind exposing yourself to your companions. This particular site has many nice flat areas and you could easily get far enough away from the toilets to enjoy the peacefulness of the campsite. The other two sites are near to the spring but the do not have many flat areas. The Spud Rock Spring catchment did have water in it - about 12 inches.

After we assembled our camp, we decided to for-go lounging around camp. Instead, we did a loop day-hike going up the Switchback trail to the Fire Loop trail. From there we took the shortest route to Manning Camp. We saw a few deer near the pond and then later they were in the mule corral. We took some time to play with the rope swing. From there we headed over to the Devil's Bathtub. This was the lowest I had ever seen the water and we actually could really make out why it has it's name. There is a tinaja which is as large as a bathtub, but it's right on the edge of a cliff. You'd be playing with the Devil if you decided to take a dip. From the Devil's Bathtub, we continued on taking the shortest routes to Spud Rock Campground.

As we approached camp, we found several colonies of Tent Caterpillars in which the caterpillars were actually outside of their tents. The larvae of the tent caterpillars construct silken tents on branches that are used for shelter and molting during the daytime. At night, caterpillars feed outside of the tents. Source: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/resources/health/field-guide/fid/tent-caterpillar.shtml

We did finally get to lounge around camp. We made our dinner - mine was a burrito filled with rehydrated carnitas and veggies. Yum!

What a wonderful way to spend a Saturday in Southern Arizona!
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The ground is wet but there is no standing water.

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Water is present but not much flow over the edge.

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It's impossible to say exactly how much water is coming out of the earth - however, it was at about 12 inches which concurs with reports the NPS had from mid-March and April 21.
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