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Bright Angel - Nankoweap Loop, AZ 
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Trip report: Bright Angel - Nankoweap loop via the Butte and Vishnu faults, 12/25/2024 - 1/1/2025.

This was my second trip to GCNP, following last year’s Phantom-Crystal loop in the same Christmas-New Years week (a great time to be in the canyon!). For the second time, I’m left awe-struck by the canyon’s variety, and by how all of its different aspects are each, in their own way, beautiful and fascinating.

There’s a good bit of beta online about this route. Bill Ferris’s wonderful reports are so detailed as basically to serve as guides. Bob Bordasch has a good set of maps. I know of two GPS tracks for the off-trail portion: Peter Bakwin’s (from his trip with Buzz Burrell; see his report on HAZ), and the waypoints from Will Petty’s 2011 speed run (shared in the Grand Canyon Hikers Yahoo group). When they diverged, I tended to go with Petty’s: he had rehearsed the route extensively, and he also seemed to like it more the Bakwin and Burrell did, which suggested to me that he might have avoided some less pleasant bits.

12/25. South Rim Visitor Center to Cottonwood. The shuttle wasn’t running at 7am, and the cab service wasn’t picking up the phone on Christmas morning, so I began with the Rim trail. This proved a nice way to see the sunrise. The walk to Cottonwood was pleasant. I had the wildlife highlight of the trip when my campsite was ambushed by a pygmy owl just after dusk.

12/26. Cottonwood to Saddle Mountain trailhead. I hemmed and hawed over the Old Bright Angel vs the North Kaibab, and went with the latter; the deciding factor was that I could get water at the North Rim admin building, and I needed a lot since I was headed into a dry camp. I then hemmed and hawed some more about the Ken Patrick trail, and ended up taking the road to Point Imperial instead, mindful of the need to make it to Nankoweap creek by the following evening. The roadwalk was mentally taxing (the aspen groves are pleasant, but three hours of them was a lot), and I occupied myself by composing a limerick about our labradoodle. The rim-side sites at Saddle Mountain are stunning, but I took the forest site in the (forlorn) hope that I could protect myself from the wind. It was a frigid and mostly sleepless night, and my water was about half frozen in the morning.

12/27. Saddle Mountain to Nankoweap creek. The Supai traverse lives up to its reputation for exposure—I can’t think of a comparable named trail anywhere. But the exposed bits all have secure footing, so it never felt dangerous—just required focus. The descent from Tilted Mesa was a toenail-buster. I got to the creek in midafternoon and considered moving on, but wasn’t sure if I’d find a good campsite before Kwangut (which I wouldn’t be able to reach in daylight). As it turns out, there would have been plenty of good dry camping spots on the ascent to the saddle. But it was still nice to have a warm campsite by the creek.

12/28. Nankoweap Creek to a site on the descent toward Sixty-Mile Creek. This was a big day, physically. I followed Petty’s route via a drainage a bit upstream from the end of the Nankoweap trail, rather than the more direct drainage Bakwin and Burrell used. This worked well, and the route showed signs of travel—including a nice hat someone dropped! (Let me know if it’s yours...) I descended to Kwangut following the drainage on the right, which had just a few minor obstacles to bypass. I picked up 8 liters at Kwangut. On the way up to the Kwangut-Malgosa saddle, I started by following the ridge Petty used, but it required boulder-hopping that was awkward with my heavy pack, so I dropped to the slope on the left. This was probably a mistake—the slope was loose and slow, and I couldn’t get back to the ridge. After the Kwangut-Malgosa saddle, route-finding through the Fault gets simpler: just follow the drainages through the fault and use the slopes on their sides when the drainages have obstacles or brush. The Butte Fault area is a huge rubble heap, and I sometimes wondered if I was missing better views on the river route—but it was very cool to see the faulting, and the Supergroup rocks underfoot were interesting and varied. In the context of the whole route, I’m glad I took the Fault for the contrast it provided (and I gather the river route has its own challenges). The coyotes in Sixty-Mile held a dinnertime conference call, just like the dogs in our neighborhood at home.

12/29. Sixty-Mile to upper Lava. A day with two distinct halves: hot and arid through Carbon, then lush and wet through Lava. There are pour offs in the descent from the saddle that require significant bypasses. I found the crossover to Lava unintuitive to navigate and ended up using GPS a bit. Lava was gushing all the way up to its source spring. I ended the day by visiting Juno ruins, a few minutes beyond the spring, and scoping out my route for tomorrow. My campsite had lots of wolf spiders … eek. I used my tent (just the bug net) for the only time on the trip.

12/30. Upper Lava to a site a little below the Freya-Vishnu saddle. The day began with the notorious Lava-Unkar saddle. While I haven’t tried the other routes people use, I’m very glad I followed Petty’s waypoints—I think he helped me avoid trouble others have run into. I began with the Tapeats break to the left of the abutment across from the ruins (I think most people use the wider break on the right). This is a steep and narrow slot, but it’s direct and not brushy, and though it looks tough from afar, it isn’t exposed and is just a stiff class 2 or easy class 3. I then contoured and descended over to the main drainage (perhaps descending too quickly), and turned uphill at about the 5000ft contour (others report turning at 5200ft), ascending straight into the Muav. All the way to the saddle, to borrow a formula of Steck’s, I went up when I could and left when I couldn’t. There was minimal brush during the ascent, and a deer trail helped during both the ascent and traverse. All in all, I didn’t find the ascent nearly as bad as I’d feared: a calf-burner, but not much of a thrash, and not dangerous. The descent to Unkar is easy. When I got to the main creekbed, I needed water, and found a very small trickle 10 minutes downstream from the junction. I dredged this out until I had a puddle large enough to scoop water from. (The situation amused me. Do my students imagine their professor spending his free time dredging a mud puddle?)

12/31. Freya-Vishnu to below the Redwall on the descent from the Wotan’s Throne-Angel’s Gate saddle. Today began with a boulder hop up to the Freya-Vishnu saddle. At the crux, where there are several options, I took the ledge on the left, which is a simple scramble and more protected than it seems from below. The initial descent is steep and loose. The traverse at the bottom of the Redwall is facilitated by a deer trail near the wall; staying high limited the feeling of exposure. The talus descent after the traverse is miserable: steep and very loose. I nervously tiptoed one step at a time. Vishnu had lots of water, including a convenient water-bottle refilling station: a spring that dripped directly into my bottles. The ascent up to Hall Butte-Wotan’s Throne saddle was, for me, the hardest feature on the route. It’s very steep and very loose. I went up way to the left and then zigzagged over to get around the Muav cliffs, but I’m not sure that’s a better option than a more direct route: it took ages to contour through all the loose terrain. The spectacular traverse to the Wotan’s Throne-Angel’s Gate saddle was a welcome reprieve. I occasionally tried to follow a use trail that comes and goes, but the terrain is easy enough that it didn’t matter if I wasn’t on it. The descent that follows is a hoot. It’s the most exposed portion of the route, including three 10-15ft pitches of down-climbing that will be easier if you lower your pack (30ft of webbing sufficed). While at times near-vertical, the rock is excellent, the route-finding straightforward, and the climbing is easy, no harder than climbing down a step ladder. I was hasty lowering my pack on one pitch and it slipped the last few feet, smushing a water bottle and soaking some warm clothes. Whoops! As a result of the mishap, it was a chilly night and I didn’t have enough water for coffee in the morning (mixing the grounds with my granola was a desperate mechanism for caffeine delivery).

1/1. To the South Kaibab trailhead. The Tapeats break into Clear Creek requires a bit of zigzagging to find ledges that connect. There was plenty of water in East Clear Creek. There were mule deer on the Clear Creek trail. I was tired and depleted as I started up the South Kaibab, but as I got moving and the temperature cooled, I was happy to be able to finally turn on the jets after days of painstaking tiptoeing. Blasting through the Muav in about five minutes, after spending a tough hour working that layer the previous day, was like riding a magic carpet. I topped out in 2:55, and in tears of gratitude. What a week it had been.
 
Jul 09 2022
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Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Shared my 200th Grand Canyon trip with Kriket. :D This was our first hike of my week spent at the North Rim.
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Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Didn't have much of a plan, so just decided to drive out to Saddle Mountain TH and jog down to Point Imperial. Friend originally planned on doing a gravel ride but decided at the last minute to join for the jog. Considered maybe adding on a little if I felt good. Pretty mellow trail through a big burn scar, the southern edge has more new aspen growth. Enjoyed the view from Point Imperial (hadn't been there since I was a kid). Knew the owners of one of the four or so vehicles in the lot (wild coincidence), so stopped and chatted with them about their recent adventure for awhile.

After we got back to the Jeep, decided we were tired and hungry, so headed to the AZT trailhead and cooked up some lunch before heading back to town.
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Butte Fault Loop, AZ 
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Disclaimer: This is not a very good route, and I do not recommend it. It is of course incredibly scenic and geologically (and historically) fascinating, but there are long sections of unpleasant hiking due scratchy brush and lots of loose, sharp rocks. I like hiking off trail as much as the next guy, and have done a lot of it in the desert and elsewhere, but this is non-terrific. IMO, this route if for Grand Canyon aficionados only. Also, there are long distances between reliable water sources. Buzz & I are strong, experienced hikers, and were able to camp at water every night. Others may have to dry camp at times. As always, YMMV.

The GPS track to this trip is attached. It is also available here: https://caltopo.com/m/78G3
These are from Buzz's Strava https://www.strava.com/athletes/184882, edited somewhat to remove GPS errors and such. You can also view more photos on there.

I read whatever trip reports I could find for this route and studied it carefully to come up with a track to load into Gaia on my phone. This turned out pretty well. We did find some of the route descriptions to be confusing and sometimes just wrong. So maybe our GPS track will help future hikers.

April is the best time to do this hike due to good weather, long days, and not too much snow on the North Rim. Unfortunately, the North Rim is mostly inaccessible in April. We simply added a bit of on-trail hiking by starting at the South Rim and making a lollipop loop. There are certainly other, shorter ways to do this, such as by starting at the Nankoweep TH and ending on the South Rim, which of course would require a shuttle. We figured a little extra hiking was simpler than dealing with logistics.

We didn’t want to camp on the North Rim, which would have been at least 15 degrees colder than anywhere else on the route, so we took a short first day and hiked the South and North Kaibab trails ~14 miles to Cottonwood CG.

Leaving camp at 6am on Day 2 was the last time we saw any people for over 3 full days. We decided to go up the Old Bright Angel trail, since neither of us had done it, and it seemed more in character with the route we were doing. Though easy to follow, Old BA is very overgrown in many sections and kind of a thrash. Buzz commented that in 5 years it will no longer be a viable route due to the brush. Though I think ~ 3 miles shorter I believe it took longer to go this way than just following the main trail. There was some post-holing on the Ken Patrick Trail, and we just did a short bush-whack up to the main paved road on the North Rim. Hiking on the closed paved road was of course fast and pleasant. We were relying on finding water at Neal Spring, which is on the USGS map, but it turns out the spring does not exist in real life. Which left us facing a very long stretch with no water, since we had not carried extra water up from Bright Angel Creek. Fortunately the weather was very cool (40s) and we found patches of snow that we could eat to sustain us passably well. Going down Nankoweep Trail the ephemeral spring near Marion Point was bone dry. Having made a really dumb route finding error earlier in the day which cost us over 90 minutes, we finally reached Nankoweep Creek ~ 90 minutes after dark. About 24 miles for the day, mostly on trail.

On Day 3 we hiked ~16 miles (all off trail) to upper Lava Creek. The only water between Nanko and Lava was in Kwagunt Creek. We carried plenty out of Kwagunt, but the day was cool enough and we didn’t have a problem. Route finding is easy – you’re just following along the obvious fault – and there were no technical difficulties. There don’t seem to be great (or any) established camp sites in upper Lava, but we found a very reasonable spot.

The hike from Lava Creek to Juno Saddle is definitely the technical crux of this route. It is brushy, steep, loose and I’d say dangerous. We started by heading up Lava Creek past the source spring. There is a large Tapeats abutment on the south side of the Lava Creek. We went just past the abutment and found an easy (though very brushy & steep) route up through the Tapeats. From there we continued up a bit and then descended into the main creek just below the junction of the 2 major arms of this drainage. We then turned up the (hiker) left drainage. Everyone says don’t miss this drainage, but it is obvious. The trouble begins after this point. You are not going all the way to the head of this drainage. Instead, at some point you will turn right and head up the slope out of the drainage, which is very steep, loose and overgrown. We turned out of the drainage at around 5200’, heading for the right side of an obvious tower (which turns out to be more of a fin). This was a lousy route, but I don’t know if there is a better one. About 100 vertical feet lower than where we left the drainage there is an obvious chute entering from the right. I would think that would be a better route, but since the route description we were following didn’t say “take the obvious chute at 5100 feet” we didn’t go that way. Anyway, we just kept thrashing our way up and eventually found ourselves on top of the Redwall and had an easier walk over to the saddle at 6012’. Descending Unkar was straightforward. At 4700’ there’s a cairn marking where you have to exit the drainage hiker left to bypass a dryfall. Going up the southwest arm of Unkar you will bypass a similar dryfall by climbing out of the drainage hiker left. The ascent up this arm of Unkar is straightforward with a lot of boulder hopping/scrambling but no route finding issues. The descent from the Redwall saddle into Vishnu is also obvious. Just head down (steep & loose!) into the drainage. After several hundred vertical feet you will encounter a huge dryfall, and you can scoot out right on Muav benches for a ways until you can find an extremely loose and annoying (SHARP rocks!) descent into the north arm of Vishnu. Just awful but mercifully short. From there we walked down Vishnu, through the lovely narrows to a nice campsite at a huge undercut just after the small, steep side drainage where you want to leave Vishnu for the next section. There was water at this spot, but it was relatively stagnant. Our Day 3 was about 12 miles, and we arrived at camp pretty early.

We got up early anticipating a long last day. There was a little scramble leaving Vishnu via the side drainage just above the undercut camp spot. Following the drainage up, then aim to go pretty far left to get around the Muav layer. You can try to find a more direct route through, but probably like us you will just wish you had headed left in the first place. From above the Muav just angle right to an obvious break in the Redwall (which seems to be a fault) just north of Hall Butte. From the saddle you follow the top of the Redwall layer mostly north for quite a long way (2 miles?) There are vague signs of past use. The climb down through the Redwall from the saddle between Angels Gate and Wotans Throne is the steepest, most exposed climbing we encountered, but the rock is relatively solid. Continuing down the drainage toward the east arm of Clear Creek, you must leave the drainage (heading west) just above a huge dryfall in the Tapeats layer and after a short way find a use trail down into the drainage, where you will encounter running water. I think it may have taken us 6 hours to hike the 7 miles from Vishnu to Clear Creek CG. From there we just motored out, happy to be on excellent trails finally. Capping a ~23 mile day, we reached the South Kaibab TH at 7:30pm, just before headlamps would have been needed, and just in time for the last shuttle bus.
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Mount HaydenNorthwest, AZ
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Pro: Might be able to do with less, but we brought a double rack BD .3-3, a single 4 and a set of stoppers.
Pernell and I were not sure if it was crazy to try to knock this out in July with a south facing route, but we gave it a go with my friend Shelby anyways.

We drove up on Saturday and found a creative hack for camping very close to the trailhead legally to set us up for a first light start Sunday morning. The approach has a nasty reputation, but I think for most canyon vets it would be regarded as pretty par for the course. The approach humbled Shelby a little, but she was able to leave her comfort zone a little and tough it out. Nevertheless, we were all a little beat when we got to the base of the climb. Because time was of the essence, I Immediately started to rack up and get ready to start us off on the first pitch. The first pitch has a heady little start and does not protect well for most of the first 30-40 feet so it took me a second to get going, but I was able to quickly shake off the first pitch jitters and cruised about 90 feet up to what I felt was the best spot to end the first pitch and start bringing up Pernell and Shelby. I swapped leads with Pernell at the top of the first pitch and then he took over for the easy second and the link up of the crux third pitch. We both followed shortly after. From there we turned the lead over to Shelby who topped us out after leading the short fourth pitch and the 20 foot, 5.5 dihedral that offers access to the southwest corner of the summit.

The pool table shaped summit was spectacular with big exposure around most of its edges. After enjoying the summit some, we began the second half of our adventure, rapping down. We rapped off the north face of Hayden down the famed Pegasus Route. The raps were big, steep, airy and fun. Although, it should be noted that a 70m rope will not get you to the ledge on the third rap coming down. We had to be creative to remedy this issue.

After catching our breath and drinking for the first time in awhile for all of us, we began the tedious "hike" back to the car. The climb out got very warm towards the end, but we did it pretty efficiently and without too many hang ups. We ended up being around 11 hours car to car.

These Canyon summits just keep becoming more special and fulfilling to me. It feels so nice to finally be knocking out the technical ones and completing them in good style and most importantly getting some work in on the sharp end of the rope and not just relying on someone to drag me up on top belay.

Grand Canyon summit #23.
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Jul 01 2019
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Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Aug 31 2018
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Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Hiking2.60 Miles 277 AEG
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North Rim beauty. Sitting at 8800 feet with views of the eastern canyon and beyond.
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Jun 04 2018
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Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
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The plan was to start this hike right about sunrise from the Point Imperial side. I started my drive early enough but come across a heard of Bison which was a real treat for me. Second day seeing them but a little lighter out today. I had to sit and watch for a spell. Between the adults attitudes and the young ones prancing around it was a real hoot. I still got to Point Imperial for some good views before the glare. The trail was pretty good for the first 1.8 miles I believe.Some nice sections of 10-15 foot Aspen in this area. That's when my phone changed times and Route Scout went to a straight line. From here the Locust are overgrowing the trail a bit around knee to thigh high. I got scratched up a bit and lost the trail a few times. When I got to the Grand Canyon boundary and the forest road I started Route Scout over for the hike back and it was fine. seemed faster going back too. :D
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May 25 2018
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Ken Patrick TrailNorthwest, AZ
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From the Saddle Mountain trailhead at the end of FR610, took KP over to Point Imperial and down to the N Kaibab trailhead, then NOBO on AZT39. Mountain bike shuttle back to the start. KP has a few stretches of overgrowth and downed trees, but its mostly in good condition. AZT39 is all forest, all the time. Nice breezy day, and the North Rim is still relatively green.
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Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Hiking6.40 Miles 758 AEG
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This was Day 9 of my car camping trip to the North Rim Grand Canyon and my second day camped at the Saddle Mtn trail head at the end of FR610. The guys camped nearby told me they had hiked the Point Imperial Trail the day before and that the TH was near camp. It sounded like a nice easy hike for my last day in the area. Tomorrow I planned to start the drive back to Phoenix stopping overnight at the Lockett Meadow campground in the San Francisco Peaks area. I added a little distance to the hike by going about a half mile down Trail #57 to take a selfie with the Saddle Mtn Wilderness Sign. When I was there the day before I didn't have a camera tripod with me.

The Point Imperial trail followed the ridge top from FR610 out to the point. Some nice scenery along the way. Most of the ridge top was severely burned by a forest fire many years ago and trees have still not started to grow back. The foliage is lush along the trail and a few New Mexico Locust bushes try to scratch your legs as you pass by. Encountered quite a few hikers who had started from the Point Imperial parking lot. There's only a couple minor ups and downs so the AEG is low - At least half was from my quick jaunt down Trail #57 for the photo session. Nice views from the point - it's the highest car accessible view point in the park at 8803 ft. Had lunch sitting on a bench at Point Imperial while watching the tourists - some European language I didn't recognize but mostly Americans. Had my first outhouse experience of the trip - It stunk, I prefer the bush. Got back to camp and decided to move to a campsite a couple hundred yards away with a great view of the canyon below for my last night. Had an enjoyable evening cooking (and eating) a spaghetti dinner with views of the canyon as the evening light started to fade. The next morning I awoke to a beautiful sunrise visible through the rear side window of my FJ as I lay in bed. A nice way to end my visit to the North Rim.
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Sep 29 2014
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Nankoweap TrailNorthwest, AZ
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This was our first hike out on the Nankoweap trail. Started at the Point Imperial trailhead in the snow and 34 degrees! Almost 3 miles later with the snow gone picked up trail Nankoweap #57. I thought this trail would just drop down into the Nankoweap trail, which it did, but to my surprise the was much elevation gain and loss. Once on the Nankoweap trail we hiked down the 'shute" and began our traverse across the narrow and exposed trail. Ran into a Ranger about halfway out to Marion point who had camped the previous night at Marion Point. About 5 minutes later ran into 2 guys who spent 4 days on the trail and 2 of those days down by the river. Our goal was to hike out to Tilted Mesa, but when we got to the Marion Point camp area took a short break and headed back. Would have love to have made it out to Tilted Mesa but just ran out time. This was great hike and would do it again.

I was concerned about the exposure (previous triplogs and pics) on the Nankoweap trail, but was really ok with it. I had to just remain focused on the trail going across the traverse. I guess the real pressure was meeting Chumley and 9L at the rough rider saloon(North Rim)and promising to post my 1st triplog at 9L's request!
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Nankoweap TrailNorthwest, AZ
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Started from Point Imperial. Cold and windy at the top. The first section of trail was wet from the previous day's rain. Walking through the tall grass and vegetation made my pants and sneakers wet. No bueno.
The trail is interesting and easy to follow but I didn't find anything scary. Once I got down to Nank Creek, there was no trail and I had to boulder hop and jump the creek many times to get to the bottom. Checked out the granaries and then headed back up. Ran into Ranger Foss, the same ranger Joe and I met out near Pasture Wash a few weeks ago. He started on Tuesday and was to come out on Monday. That's a long time down there!
Got sprinkled on a few times on the way out. Luckily the predicted t-storms never happened. Finished in the dark. Cold and windy again on top. Brought 6 liters, cached 3 on the way down, drank 4 total.
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Sep 18 2014
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52 female
 Joined Apr 02 2007
 Scottsdale, AZ
Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Crzy4AZTriplogs 615
Hiking0.50 Miles 20 AEG
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GI Jones
Didn't really hike - just walked around a bit and enjoyed the overlook and views.
Aspen changing color on the road to Point Imperial were impressively beautiful.
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Road to Point Imperial had explosive aspen color
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Aug 30 2013
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69 female
 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 30 2013
tibberTriplogs 1,570
Hiking2.60 Miles 277 AEG
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desertgirl
a quick stop at Point Imperial before doing our Cape Final hike. The rain threatened for our drive up. We got out of the car and started eating our sandwich when it decided to rain of course. So we finished our lunch in the car. Still had a bit of a view of Mt Hayden which is pretty cool. We didn't have to wait too long for the rain to subside.

We walked back and forth to the various sides of the Point and down to the railed section. The weather would continue to threaten but the sun did come out for a little while. There weren't too many people out. The views were exceptional as usual :DANCE: . Hopefully next year I will actually do this hike.

A video showing 2013 (cloudy and rainy) vs 2012 (sunshine and poofy clouds)
[ youtube video ] (around 5 mins)
A video of our sunflower excursion at Sunset Crater Volcano Natl Monument: [ youtube video ]
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Sep 01 2012
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69 female
 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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writelots
We stopped at this Point to have our lunch on the way to Cape Final. We took the tourist walk down to the overlook and then came back up to the top. We walked around a bit before having our sandwiches and a beer. Such a wonderful lunch vista :y: . There were big puffy clouds and the vistas were pretty clear. There were storms to the south but nothing threatening.

Here is a 3:45 minutes video of our time at Point Imperial: http://youtu.be/hpXZJ7nIcoc
Oh, may I suggest you change the quality on youtube to HD1080. You can find that setting next to the minutes just below the video screen (or next to the clock icon)
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Sep 01 2012
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 Joined Nov 22 2005
 Tucson, AZ
Cape Royal Exploits, AZ 
Cape Royal Exploits, AZ
 
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writelotsTriplogs 341
Hiking5.81 Miles 768 AEG
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tibber
After we hiked the Uncle Jim trail, the plan was to wander out to Cape Royal - taking all the little side-hikes we could fit in - and have a sunset/moonrise picnic out at the point. It was a delightful plan that (for once) went pretty much as expected. Shocking!

We started out by driving out to Point Imperial for lunch. Imperial is the highest point on either rim, and it's lofty vantage gives some real perspective. You can see the flat of the plateau on the South Rim like nowhere else, and it's a straight shot right down the middle of the Little Colorado River Gorge if you have a strong enough camera lens (I don't). The countless spires, temples and points that make up the north rim are all outlined in great relief here, especially when there are summer thunderstorms rolling through the canyon as there were that day. Not a bad spot for lunch!

Then we hiked out to Cape Final. This trail was an unexpected gem, it was easy hiking but had very nice forest, some fantastic views and not many tourists to get in the way (well, except for us). The trail leads out to a point with amazing views of the east portion of the canyon, including the infamous Supergroup formations of the Escalante. We picked up one of our scattered hikers along the way, which added even one more pleasant surprise to the trip. I would definitely do Cape Final again, particularly if I needed a nice place to get away from the crowds of Cape Royal and Point Imperial.

Then we explored the Cape Royal area, including the 'Wedding' site and the picnic area where we had an amazing dinner spread out. There's no denying that the ABC group eats well when they get together, and this was certainly no exception!

By the time the moon was rising, we were tired and ready to head home, so I didn't get to spend much time moonlight gazing. Clouds would have made it difficult anyhow.

Another great night with fun people, and an easy day to get us ready for the big attempt on the old BA in a couple days!
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May 20 2012
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67 male
 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
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jhelfers
After AZT #39 we drove over here to soak up the views. We met 2 guys doing a "200 mile GC trip". Down Nanko, hitch a ride, Beamer, entire Tonto and up Royal Arch. They were looking to top off all their water so we gave them all we had left.
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Sep 20 2010
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 Phoenix, AZ
Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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desertgirl
This was our first stop on the "Winding Road" tour at the North Rim that would include 4-5 stops. Here we just walked along the side of the rim bordering the parking lot from the south to the north ending at the point where you walk down to get a closer view. We didn't have time for all of the full trails so this one was put on the "next time" list. There are several trail options along the way to Cape Royal at the end of the winding road to the east of the main Park highway.

We walked around the area and captured some great photos of the haze that inherited the gorge this fine morning. It really was very artistic looking. There were a few condors flying around on the north side of the point. I think I have a picture of one on a ledge and one in the air.
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Sep 20 2010
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 Joined Mar 31 2002
 Chandler, AZ
Point Imperial TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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desertgirlTriplogs 451
Hiking4.40 Miles 300 AEG
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Jul 24 2009
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 Joined May 16 2005
 Scottsdale, AZ
Ken Patrick TrailNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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Al_HikesAZTriplogs 243
Hiking11.00 Miles 1,100 AEG
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I headed to the North Rim for a long weekend.

DAY 1
I stopped by the Back Country Office and made some changes to my permit with Ranger Robin Roberts. Then I proceeded to the Lodge where I was able to get a dinner reservation. I drove to Point Imperial and the Ken Patrick Trail. Monsoons were threatening. I hiked north on the Ken Patrick Trail to the Saddle Mountain TH. Then back to Point Imperial and south on the Ken Patrick Trail for a ways. I cut it short so that I could get to Cape Royal and still make my dinner reservation at the Lodge. I had a very nice dinner of Utah Ruby Trout and a Cactus Cosmo - prickly pear vodka and cranberry juice. After dinner I hiked around the Lodge area and out to Bright Angel Point. I wish I had brought my tripod to get some great lightning strikes on the San Francisco Peaks. I drove back to Point Imperial. No camping is allowed at Point Imperial but there are permitted areas surrounding it. I hiked a few hundred yards into the Thompson Canyon use area and pitched my Copper Spur UL2. Shortly after sundown the gentle thunderstorm lulled me to sleep.

DAY 2
I got up for the sunrise at Point Imperial. Not particularly spectacular today. I used my Granite Gear lightweight pack setup today. I was going to take my OR Bug Bivy (16oz) and Integral Designs siltarp (8oz) but because of the monsoon threat I took my MSR Hubba (3lbs 6oz). I took my Esbit stove (4oz with fuel) instead of my Jetboil (1 lb 3oz with fuel). I headed to the North Kaibab TH and hiked leisurely to Cottonwood Campground. The campground was empty. I set up in campground 10 because it has the best shade and is close to the water spigot and toilets. The plan was to head to Upper Ribbon Falls and the granary ruins. I headed on my way. Halfway across the bridge my better judgement kicked in. It was about 102° and getting hotter. So instead of turning right and heading up the steep hill and the couple of miles to Upper Ribbon and the granary, I turned left and hiked the 1/2 mile to Ribbon Falls. I spent a couple of hours just chillin' and reading and headed back to camp. At 1600 I was still the only party at Cottonwood. I explored a little and found the special pool in Bright Angel Creek just west of the Ranger House. I relaxed in the pool for a while then headed back to my campground. An NPS volunteer came by to check permits and we had a nice talk. I thought he said his name was Clyis. He had been a teacher in Mesa but his contract wasn't renewed. So he had moved back to the Grand Canyon where he had grown up. He was hoping to get a position with the Park Service. I didn't realize it at the time but I was speaking to a legend. He headed back to the Aiken house. Around 1730 a commercial group of 4 backpackers Lawrence from Pigmy Guides arrived. I don't think these 4 had ever backpacked before. I helped them set up and learned some cooking tips from Lawrence. Around 1800 a group of 5 Aggies showed up. I went back to my camp to make dinner. Between my camp and the water I saw a pink buzzworm (Crotalus abyssus) crossing the trail. Just about the most docile buzzworm I have ever seen. I fashioned a sophisticated Flintstone windbreak for my Esbit and enjoyed dinner. A German couple showed up about 1830. So only these 4 groups for the 11 campsites at Cottonwood. No rain.

DAY 3
I slept in a little. I started my climb back to the North Rim. I made great time up to the Supai Tunnel. The mule train was ready to head out so I rested to put some distance between us. The thermometer at Supai Tunnel already was reading over 90°. At 7,200' with about a mile and 800' to go I started bonking. I would walk for a couple of hundred steps then find some shade to rest in while I caught my breath. I could tell I was getting close because of all of the tourons (a special breed of moronic tourists) on the trail. I got to my truck, set up my chair and savored the accomplishment.
I drove to the Visitor Center to buy a Bruce Aiken book of paintings. I found out that Clyis was Silas Aiken, Bruce's son and the lemonade stand kid. I wandered around the North Rim and Jacob Lake savoring every last second before heading home to the heat.
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