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Dutchman Grave Trail #22 - Mazatzal - 8 members in 18 triplogs have rated this an average 3.4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jan 18 2021
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Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
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1st trip
Decided to venture out into the Mazatzals from the Verde River side. Fun 2.5-3 hour drive there, then a 10am start. The flat part of Dutchman Grave trail is straighforward and easy. Past the springs, route got more overgrown. Not terribly hard to follow in most areas, but scratchy.

Got pretty old on the way down Willow Springs Trail when I kicked a prickly pear and had to remove a spine from my big toe. They're always harder to take out than they are to put in.

Took the spur down to Willow Spring to refill water. Couple of big pools with some flow underneath a bunch of leaves. Nice spot.

Once in the flat area, it was actually possible to run again. Only saw one person all day, a bow hunter up near Mountain Spring.

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Trickle near trail crossing, might be better farther down.

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Only water is at Willow Spring and below Mountain Spring

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Didn't find the actual spring, but could hear water.

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Tank is full, but little if any flow. More water in the creek below the spring.

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Lots of discharge into the Verde River. Dry at creek crossings in the upper forks.


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Mar 07 2020
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Dutchman Grave Trail #22 - MazatzalPhoenix, AZ
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I finally made a return to the bridge. I was looking to push the knee a little without a ton of AEG, but wanted something more than a boring stroll in the valley. I decided on an out and back to where I remembered seeing flowing water the last time I was in this area. I was hoping for some wildflowers too, but they were not overly spectacular on the drive in, or during the hike.

The hike went pretty well. A little bit of a rocky, steep ascent to gain HK Mesa, but it was cruiser after that. There was a light flow where the trail crosses Sycamore Creek just before Dutchman Grave Spring, so we took our break there. I soaked my knee in the cool water for ten minutes, we let the dogs rest up and then we headed back the way we came.

We checked out some ruins near the bridge before leaving and then made the long bumpy trip back to Seven Springs. The last ten miles to the bridge is pretty rocky and miserable.
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Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
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This loop has been on my list a long time but I didn't want to do the drive to Sheep Bridge. So I started at Horseshoe Dam Thursday afternoon and packed north on FR479 to Sheep Bridge, day hiked the loop clockwise Friday, packed back to Horseshoe Saturday morning. Excellent loop, lots of greenery and nicely flowing water in several drainages. Typical west-side Mazzie "trails" but nothing too unpleasant.
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Midnight Mesa Loop - MazatzalPhoenix, AZ
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1st trip
This is one of those dayhikes that's usually done over two calendar days, right? :DANCE:

Willow Spring #223
Sheep Bridge was weirdly quiet for Labor Day weekend. Didn't see any other vehicles or campers as I headed over the Verde an hour before sunrise. Going was annoyingly tough for the first two miles, fresh grass was covering the tread and cairns, once the sky began to lighten things were easier. The tall hills in the east kept me in the shade for much of the climb to Willow Spring #224 spur. Thought briefly about checking out the spring and didn't.

I was dreading the next thousand foot climb, given how steep it is and everything, but managed to chug through it. Hamstrings started cramping on this section and slowed me down. The green growth in the Mazzies right now looks amazing compared to the dull brown on my last June visit, the hills are downright lush. Gnats are a less welcome result of the recent rains. Watered up at the very murky Mountain Spring before slogging up the next climb towards Lost Spring.

Lost Spring #279
There is a decent tread for a few hundred yards that devolves into brush and deadfall. A few game tracks swing below the thick nasty so I followed them. Reached the spring and startled a huge elk less than twenty feet away - wonder if it's the same one I saw out here a year ago. He was busy fouling the spring so probably didn't hear me. His annoyed bugles echoed around me as I checked out the views and water source. Returned about the same way and waved good-bye to the elk and his spa.

Willow Spring #223 - continued
Steady grade through the dead forest that opened up to epic views on top. Those views included a few big monsoon clouds in the east. More on those later. Paused here for a needed break before dancing along the narrow connecting ridge to Midnight Mesa. Trail was harder to follow along the side of the mesa than I remembered. Quick drop down to the Midnight Trail junction, where I briefly thought about bailing - was running low on time and energy. Decided to push on and instantly regretted it.

Midnight #272
The few cairns did little to ease the pain of deadfall, rolling rocks, and thick brush. Once the trail enters unburnt forest things do get easier. Plus each drainage, including Wet Bottom Creek, had fresh water running. A pleasant corral next to the creek has some Fuller Seep campsite vibes. Trail changed dramatically on the north side, with wide tread and large cairns. My legs hated the climb up to Red Hills. On the way I passed some discarded camping equipment that made for an eery foreshadowing.

Red Hills #262
Drop to Wet Bottom Creek is getting downright easy. Was able to track tread and cairns the entire way down, though I chose to tumble down some sections instead of following trail. Reached the creek and it was magnificent, tons of water. While I was down here, filling up to capacity, I checked in with wifey about the weather situation - there were now three storms surrounding me, all rumbling and dark, and I really didn't want to be caught in a storm while up near 5601'. She assured me they would miss me so I hit some roctane for the haul up.

Cairns and tread were well-defined for half the climb, then deadfall and manzanita hide any trace of a trail above the 'throne'. Those storms gave me plenty of shade and cool breeze for what could have been a real slog. I hit the top just as a quick downpour caught me, just enough to convince me to haul out my poncho. The rain passed but the shade and breeze lasted for the rest for the day.

Trail was shockingly well-defined and I cruised alongside the summit of 5601', enjoying the views of Midnight Mesa and Cypress Butte. Things got a little sketchy in the drainage on the far side and I focused on speed instead of hunting cairns, zipping under the pine trees and hopping in the drainage. Did see a few stretches of tread on the banks, found them to be mostly overgrown and not worth the effort. Trail got much easier to track once it climbed up the saddle and left the drainage for good.

The sun was setting as I looped around by 4927'. Cairns got harder to find in the waning light, especially since some of the rock piles were marking old mines instead of route. Once I reached the sharp bend down to the last descent I had to stop and weigh my options. 9 miles left, 3 of them on new trail, and I was exhausted. If I pushed on I would be risking injury and for what - just so I could nod off during the drive? I still had 3L and a few snacks, might as well bivy out here.

Picked a shallow mining exploration that was about 5' by 3' and cleared it out. Collected a large stack of firewood and broke it down, then stretched poncho over half the pit. Got everything squared away inside and immediately fell sleep in a curled-up position on the rocky ground... Did I mention I was exhausted? Woke up two hours later from the cold and began the cycle: start a fire, build up to larger sticks, nod off, then wake up an hour later to a bed of coals for starting a new fire. It never really got that chilly, the fire was just enough to keep comfortable and the smoke kept the mosquitos (mostly) at bay. When I finally got up around an hour before dawn I felt surprisingly refreshed.

Initial drop from the ridge was sudden and rocky, then more mines and tailings show up to make for an easy descent on the north bank of the drainage. Quick rock-hop and a tread picks up on the south bank and makes for a very easy walk. I had some trouble following the tread after it swings south, likely due to the recent rains smoothing out the dirt, so I spent more time cairn-hunting than I wanted to. A few overgrown sections and then this trail was done.

Dutchman Grave #22
Paused at the lower spring for water and to finish off the last of my food before making one last push. The spikey trees are just as spikey as my last visit and each little climb felt harder than it should have. HK Mesa was wonderfully green. Had one good fall dropping into Sycamore Creek where a rock rolled underfoot, glad it happened within a mile of the bridge and not further out. Hobbled the rest of the way to a still-empty Sheep Bridge.

FR 269 has some deep ruts that require extra care, and the storm on 9/3 did some noticeable damage to the rockier sections (they're more rocky now).

Mazatzal Miles: 233.1/275 (85%)
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Two separate sources next to each other, both fouled by elk. One of them I'd consider pulling, though it'd take some patience.

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Multiple deep pools for filtering, flowing from one to the next.

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Murky, unpleasant taste and odor. Probably the worst I've seen it.

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Looks great at Verde River #11 crossing.


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Amazing.
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Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
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jacobemerickTriplogs 233
Hiking24.13 Miles 4,961 AEG
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1st trip
Drove up the night before with sister and her dogs. Half hour of daylight left when we got there, enough time to setup camp and check out the location of the hot spring. Used hammock w/ underquilt and was ridiculously comfortable. Quiet night except for some very curious and brave coatis.

Dutchman Grave #22
Hiked the first four miles by headlamp and moon-sliver and it was so easy. I was a little nervous, doing a new trail in the remote western Mazzies in the dark, but it's well-cairned and the tread is easy to follow. Spent a little bit of time hunting around by the HK Ranch turn-off. There's a yuge cairn marking the "junction" and nothing else, no tread or cairns heading down to Sycamore Creek. Further exploration will have to wait for daylight. Lots of morning birds down there. Temps were warm before the sunrise and that first healthy climb worked up an annoying sweat. Trotting into the valley on the other side and felt a significant, and welcome, temperature drop.

Dutchman Grave Spring area is beautiful. Both springs had (some) water, the campsites were tempting, and the trees were large and shade-y. Definitely one of the more appealing locations in the western Mazzies. Then there's the climb on the other side. After a well-marked climb the trail dances along the side of 4165' and dozens of game trails start to confuse the route. There aren't a lot of cairns on this section, either. It clears up near the 3811' saddle.

This section of the trail was fantastic. The views of Cypress Butte, Midnight Mesa, and the deep cut of Granite Basin feeding into Sycamore Creek were ridiculous. There are even a handful of junipers spared from the fire, some of them right along the path! Tread was great and cairns were large. The last climb was tough, mostly because it was after eight by then and the temps were moving further into furnace realm. The switchbacked grade was reasonable. Trotting into Mountain Spring felt like coming home.

Willow Spring #223
Easy going until the trail zips up the side of 5163'. My legs were promised no more uphill. Trail was easy enough to follow, red rock steps and cairns, reminded me a lot of 6351' further up the trail. Heh, even the digits are the same! Anyways, the trail drops sharp on the other side, switchbacks and ridges, big views and occasional trees. Took a quick trip down to Willow Spring along #244. There are at least a dozen trails leading down to the spring, only one w/ a few cairns. Spring itself is beautiful, much cleaner water than Mountain Spring.

The next few miles were very pretty, with some of the descent through a well-vegetated drainage. There was a slight breeze picking up to help deal with the temps. After the drainage things got progressively hotter and more boring. For the last six miles even the breeze turned against me, feeling more like the rush of hot air from an open stove than anything refreshing like it did in the hills. Trail felt slightly harder to track in the flatland, tread fading away and brush hiding the cairns, and all the little hills ahead blended together. Reached a busy Sheep Bridge after two and trotted over the bridge and through the throngs to the waiting cooler.

Mazatzal Miles: 220/275 (80%)

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Several medium-sized pools. Water had an ugly slick on it.

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Full, steadily splashing out of the overflow. Lukewarm and clean.

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There were a few holes that you could squeeze a cup in. Had to hunt to find them.

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Cement trough was 3/4 full of green, stagnant water. Taste was hard to get past.

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Several pools trickling into each other. Water was clear and tasted great. Lots of water bugs, bees, wasps, and hawks to share the space with.
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Sheep Bridge / Mountain Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
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1st trip
I could not make up my mind this weekend on something to do and was all over the place when this backpacking idea popped into my conscience, as a lighter alternative to the Midnight Mesa Loop, which had been on my to do list for a long time. I got some last minute details from Joe, which included a good review of Dutchman Grave Trail, and an assurance that I could not go wrong with the Western Mazzies this time of year.

Joe was definitely right, the western Mazzies are a special place right now. One could get away with charging admission to the Dutchman Grave Trail right now; perhaps the desert at its finest and with the rugged ridgeline of the Mazzies as a backdrop, hard to beat. Similarly, the trail itself was in pretty good shape too. There are some faint areas and a few areas where a second look may be necessary, however, it is generally pretty easy to follow and marked well with some very tall and well constructed cairns. The final stretch into Mountain Spring is a little strenuous, but very scenic, maybe one of the nicer stretches of trail in the entire wilderness in my opinion. The strenuous part was the 670 feet climb from mile 11-12 that just seems to come out of nowhere, just when you think you are almost to Mountain Spring, oh if only we hiked in the manner the crow flied, sigh. Mountain Spring was an excellent spot to camp and there was plenty of water in the cement trough and adjacent creek bed. I enjoyed a nice fire and a perfect night for sleeping.

The hike out on Sunday went pretty quick and I was back to the TH in less than five hours. I made a detour down Willow Springs Trail #244 to Willow Spring on the way out and was very impressed by the area. It may be one of the nicest destinations in the Mazzies right now. The creek is flowing nicely through there right now and there are a few nice cascades and swimming holes in the spring area. The trailhead area was bustling when I got there, but I saw nobody on the trails all weekend. A really awesome area and I left feeling very satisfied with my hastily planned venture into the western Mazzies. In fact, I would not mind returning for a multiple day and night trip to do some more exploring of those trails and areas in the interior I still need to get to, one of my more memorable Mazatzal destinations. Thanks for the last minute beta and good call @joebartels.
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More significant on the drive in, as large swaths of yellow have taken over many of the hills on the way to the TH, but some pretty good action along some sections of Willow Springs Trail too...

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Midnight Mesa Loop - MazatzalPhoenix, AZ
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After the seemingly never-ending drive to the trail-head, we set off on the faint, but fairly easy to follow Willow Springs Trail, making it to Mountain Spring before nightfall. Unbeknownst to us, a mountain lion had made a deer kill within the last week about 10 feet from where I had setup my tent, and some critters, including a fox, visited during the night to try to snack on the little that had remained.

The next day was mostly a pleasant surprise, trail conditions were pretty good, to nearly highway like, along the remainder of the willow springs trail and the midnight trail. There are only two areas where it gets bad: the first is the area where willow springs trail intersects the midnight trail. The fire heavily damaged this area, and the beginning of the midnight mesa trail is not clear. The second is where the midnight mesa trail first meets Wet Bottom Creek. Though I was sure we were on the trail, the 6 ft tall bushes we had to wade through suggested this 100 ft span has already reverted to its natural state. A large camp was found setup at Wet Bottom Creek, and presumably this group had done the maintenance on the remainder of the Midnight mesa highway to its junction with Red Hills. :thanx:

The Red Hills trail from here on is pretty much a disaster, and is pretty much non-existent in several places, and overgrown (badly) in the remainder. Other than the nice part where it crosses Wet Bottom Creek, it was not enjoyable.

Thanks Fan for joining me! The 3 days went by quickly. The fact that some of the crazy people on this site hiked this in a day is mind-boggling. And from their GPS tracks, they only did about 70% of their loop on the actual trail.
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The reservoir and the cattle tank were both pretty full, though I didn't observe how much was truly flowing. The main reservoir was several feet deep and looks to be pretty reliable.

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The lower part was raging, though it was not clear where the water was coming from since it was bone dry a few miles upsteam.


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Good flow here through the creek. There is a large, pond like portion where the trail crosses, though it is not very deep.
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Midnight Mesa Loop - MazatzalPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking32.01 Miles 7,758 AEG
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1st trip
Up at 3:15am, off by 3:45. Meet Joe at 4:30, hiking by 5:40.

Todays fantastic journey included:

The Sunrise

A Skunk that Joe thought was the Travelocity Gnome

A Hawk with fresh prey in it's Talons

Flowing water (that I drank 3 times)

A Gila Monster

Killer views ALL day long

The Sunset

Sheep Bridge

And Great Company....

Couldn't ask for much more. Oh yeah the weather was perfect from start to stop as well.
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Midnight Mesa Loop - MazatzalPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking32.25 Miles 7,800 AEG
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Ken and I knocked this out two weeks ago. I really enjoyed what I saw. Unfortunately 9 hours was in the dark so I didn't get to see half of the hike.

jj and I started out 40 minutes before sunrise with just enough light to avoid headlamps. Well at least I thought so until the Travelocity Gnome scared the crap out of me. On closer inspection I was looking at the vertical attention of a skunk's tail. Lucked out and moved on.

Dutchman Grave Trail #22
Still the trail I fell in love with weeks ago. Not as many yellow wildflower varieties, just green green green everywhere!

Red Hills Trail #262
The first few miles are outstanding. Experience paid off on this bad boy. Navigation was easier. I can now say this one takes the most time in route finding having done the others in daylight. Still unique and worth it once for those that haven't checked it out. Well at least the portion in this loop anyhow.

Midnight Trail #272
Not on my favorites list for the Mazzies. Yet easier to follow in daylight. The best part being my two planned bushwhack detours worked out great. Willow Springs Trail came quicker than anticipated.

Willow Springs Trail #223
The moment of truth. Ken & I had a heck of a time negotiating the 0.5 miles of trail around Midnight Mesa. Today in was still sketchy for a tenth of a mile. Yet easier to see, negotiate and didn't look so steep in daylight. That's it right? Head down and it's over.

Not so fast. The hike down was phenomenal. Perhaps the weather. Perhaps the stunning views all the way down. I really enjoyed this trail in the daylight. Nice backside views of Peeley, Sheep and Saddle Mtn too!

Second scare of the day was looking straight down the purple throat of a gila monster. I'm beginning to notice a pattern after a week of three snakes, a skunk and a gila monster at close range... jj is in the back wolfing down taffy!

How it panned out
I felt better on this loop. 20 hours was outta my comfort zone. JJ would probably knock off an hour or two without me and I'd probably add an hour two without him. So a nice medium. I hit 40g protein, 3 quarts of water, 2 Qts Gatorade, four ibuprofen, sunflower seeds, pistachios, half a pepperoni beef stick, 1 large chewy yet crunchy sweet tart. Feel great now a few hours afterwards. Of course jj survived on unfiltered creek water and his typical plethora of sugar treats...lol Also tried one super anti histamine to ward off the quickened paced snots a couple hours in. Yeah that worked for maybe ten minutes.
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Hiking33.60 Miles 8,400 AEG
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The inner Mazzies have intrigued me since 2001 when I created a FLASH map of the wilderness. Ken suggested this loop. I spent a solid twenty minutes throwing it together with his previous routes. Posting my gps route realized Richard did this loop CCW as a 4 day backpack. I should have known... lol!

Driving across the Verde shaves about 1 hour off the drive to Sheep Bridge. Even with Horseshoe releasing 5 cfs the Verde was bone dry. We started the longest day hike of my life at 8:05am. "Wow" expectations where pretty low for this hike. If there is a cool hike in Arizona surely I know about it... right? Storybook temps albeit breezy set the stage.

Dutchman Grave Trail #22
Enjoyed this trail the most. Spring was dancing and changing tunes along the way. Healthy, out of idiot range, saguaros cover the hills.

Red Hills Trail #262
Some of the coolest mazzie terrain. Notably in two less burned creek areas and one mine area. Finding the trail is difficult. Year 'round water in the pools? One of 'em seems likely...

Midnight Trail #272
Welcome to the show. Dreams are filled with ridiculous access trails in the middle of large wilderness. The sun was setting and a full moon rose as we stepped into dreamland. The 2004 Willow Fire has destroyed a majority of the route. Extremely difficult to follow at night. Probably easier in daylight. Considerable amount of cairns. Unfortunately most are spaced out of view leaving no clue, aside from gps, which direction to go.

Wind was really cranking. Plenty of water. My growling stomach was so loud it sounded like it was digesting internal organs. Ken whipped out the best mint chocolate Cliff bar I've had in my life. Then came the cherry on top. Literally too! A BAG of dried cherries. Wow, wow, wahoo! Christmas isn't usually this good!

Willow Spring Trail #244
Back to reality. #244 skirts the ESE side of Midnight Mesa proper for a half mile. Either we missed the trail or it is gone. Ken was not liking it. He slipped down and started yelling in Stiller tongue. A little further, then he slipped in a precarious spot. Looked like Luke hanging onto the edge of the weather vane under Cloud City. The situation called for some emergency jedi training. Ken used the force and denied the wrath of the dark side. Yoda would have been proud.

We made it to some cairns rounding out the final third of the half mile skirt. Perhaps we just missed the rest. From there the majority of the trail down is easy to follow. Night hiking under a full moon is cool. Even better when the wind stopped.

Horseshoes - 6
Mylar Balloons - 1
Crested Saguaros - 1
Gila Monsters - 1
4am Finishes - 1

Carried 5 quarts, consumed 6

Anyone interested in a predawn start at a quick pace or jog a few flats hit me up for a redo!
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
predominantly along Dutchman Grave Trail #22
Blackfoot Daisies are abundant 2200-2700ft, crazy hopbush for a half mile, claretcup, strawberry hedgehog, Dichelostemma capitatum, poppies, lupine, Dudleya, Cream Cups, Desert Anemone, Desert Phlox, Verbena, Dune Primrose, Filaree, Narrow-Leaved Popcorn Flower

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Wet Bottom Creek - Red Hills #262 Light flow Light flow
No snow melt this year, still plenty of water in the trickling pool for a small army.
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Joe's summed it up well.

I've finished the Red Hills and the Willow springs trails.

I doubt I’ll be back on the Midnight Mesa / Willow Springs junction. That area is just too much rock scramble / climbing for me :scared: .

I brought 6 liters of water and filtered 3 more for a total of 9 liters consumed.

It was way too cool going to Richard’s avatar spot.
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I left Sheep Bridge on Willow Spring trail on 12-21-2013, and returned to the bridge via the Dutchman Grave trail on 12-23-2013. The scenery was awesome, and I saw quite a bit of wildlife. Didn't see another person the whole trip except at the bridge. The country is pretty rough, and the trails can be nearly impossible to see in many places. The Willow Spring trail was not too difficult to follow, especially with the help of numerous large cairns. The Dutchman Grave trail is a different story. In many places I could not see a trail at all, and many of the cairns are small, widely spaced, and often obscured by vegetation. Several times I had to comb the hillside to find the next cairn before proceeding. If you aren't familiar with the trail and just try to head the way that you think the trail should head without finding a cairn, you could end up a long way off course. The trail does not always go the way you might think. There was plenty of water at Willow Spring, and in Sycamore Creek. You could descend off trail to Sycamore Creek to get water above Dutchman Grave Spring, or wait until the trail crosses the creek farther down. Overall a very enjoyable hike. I recommend finding a good detailed trail description and map for anybody new to the area.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Dutchman Grave Spring Dripping Dripping
Standing, stagnant water, no visible flow.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Sycamore Creek @ Dutchman Grave Trail Medium flow Medium flow
Recent heavy rains.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Willow Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Good clear flow at the Spring; it had rained heavily about 1.5 days before I was at the Spring. A small side drainage as I approached Willow Spring had a trickle with pools large enough to filter water from.
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I really like the Sheep Bridge area, but the drive is a pain. The road from the 24/269 intersection was in better shape than the last time I took it. A lot of the minor rock steps were gone. I think the recent rains deposited a lot of dirt on the road and evened out the rock steps. The Tangle creek was flowing a bit higher than usual.

Two unusual/interesting/weird events happened this day. One was at the start and the other was at the end of the hike.

Just as a started hiking on the bridge a helicopter landed on the beach!! At first I was thinking it was a rescue, but the helicopter was not police or SAR. Neither the pilot nor the helicopter had any official markings. The pilot stood in the river with some device taking readings or pictures. I thought about asking for a ride to a remote spot in the Mazzies, so I could do a one-way hike back :sl:. Maybe the other end of the Verde River trail.

Now for the hike:
The original plan was to hike to the Willows Spring / Midnight Mesa intersection as an out and back. The Willows spring is well defined and in good shape, but now it's obscured with the tall grass. It took me much longer than expected to reach the Mountain Spring area. I checked out the Mountain spring and the water looked yucky :yuck: with algae. The spring itself is shaded with tall trees.

The Willows spring trails gets nicer past the Mountain spring. There were 5~6 foot cairns leading the way up a saddle. The Mazzies make you work hard, but they reward with amazing views. I was past my turn around point, but the trail and views were so nice that I couldn't bring myself to turn-around ;) . I'm pretty sure I turned around at the Lost Spring trail. I either missed the sign or the sign was missing.

Since I fell short of hitting the Midnight Mesa trail ](*,) , I returned on the Dutchman's Grave trail aka the Mountain Spring loop. About a 1/2 mile down the Dutchman's grave, I found a 5 point elk antlers by a tree :) .
There's a little bit of route finding on the Dutchman's grave trail. I personally like the Willow Spring trail better.

I returned to the Sheep Bridge in the dark. I did notice that most all of the creek was dry. I was hoping to see waterfalls and gushing water like people have been seeing by Eastern side of the Mazzies.

Now for the 2nd unusual/weird event of the day. As I got closer to the Verde River I could see a pair of tail lights on the road. They were parked for a long time. At first I thought it was someone setting up camp. After a bit the lights moved a bit. Then the road was out of sight and then I stopped seeing the lights. When I hit the sheep bridge, I saw a pair of tail lights right next to my Jeep. Something seemed odd about the tail lights. Then it dawned on me, it was a sedans tail lights! It was a Nissan Altima!

When I got to my Jeep, a young kid came out with a crude hand drawn map of the Verde River. He asked if he could hike on banks of the Verde. I was tired / confused and weird-ed out. I told him to wait till morning and just hike on the Verde trail.
He told me that it took him all day to get to this point. He had tried to drive over the Horseshoe Dam and was turned away. He was going to spend a couple of days at the Sheep Bridge.

Then it gets better. All of a sudden he starts yelling *!?* :tt: , *!&@ :tt: . He locked his keys in the running car. He had to bust out the passenger window to get back in the car.
There's more, but I digress... :out:
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The drive feels like the longest part of the trip driving in on Seven Springs Road to Sheep Bridge. One the way out we took Bloody Basin to I-17 back to town and surprisingly it was only 12 minutes longer.

Starting at the Sheep Bridge about 8am we soon hit the junction of Willow Springs trail and Dutchman Grave trail and then headed up the Dutchman Grave trail. The first 5 or 6 miles is relatively flat and easy although the trail has deteriorated so we had to watch for the cairns. There are some really nice big cairns along the trail especially at some of the creek crossings around Dutchman Grave Spring and Sycamore Creek which all had nice seasonal flow. Eventually the trail gains elevation over a series of ridgelines and saddles before arriving at Mountain Spring. Much of the area burned during the Willow Fire but some of Mountain Spring survived to include several large Oaks. There is also an old trough which was full of water at the time.

After leaving Mountain Spring we headed down the Willow Springs trail which has a bit of climb out of Mountain Spring but once over that it's all downhill to the Sheep Bridge. Wanted to check out Willow Spring but the sun was low in the sky and had to make tracks for the car. Considering the drive this is probably better as a backpack or car camp.
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I've wanted to check this area out for a couple of years. My timing has always been off. Due to the road, you shouldn't go during the rainy season and with the lower elevations, mid to late spring doesn't work out. I finally found my window. Armed with GPSJoe's track I headed out. I left my house at 5:15am. I made to the FR24/FR269 intersection by ~7:15. Now I started the 12 mile rough road. About 9 miles in, I started to hear a new odd sound coming from my front passenger tire :scared: . I jumped out and looked, but didn't see anything wrong. I went another mile before deciding to stop driving. I read reports that he last two miles of the road were the worst, I parked at mile 10 on FR269. This is where I started my hike. Without knowing what the road conditions were ahead, I didn't want to chance my Jeep breaking down. By this point I had driven 70 miles and it took me 3 hour to it.

I hoofed it down to the bridge. The remaining two miles on the road was OK. But still that new sound worried me. The views were awesome. I'm glad I brought my good camera. There was a bunch of people camping at the TH. There was one person camping on the beach. I headed over the bridge. The Verde River was flowing well. I started up the Willow Spring trail. It was cool looking at the eastern mountain range of the Mazatzal's. Typically I'm in the mountain ranges looking west at the Verde. I came across two backpackers getting water in the Horse Creek. As the morning heated up, I started to climb to the higher elevations and into the cooler temps. As I started my climb down, it started to get warm again. I pumped some water at the Sycamore creek. The Dutchman Grave had a couple of areas where I needed to refer to GPSJoes route. The trail gets obscured by grass and I wasn't paying 100% because I was taking in the views

At 4:30 I saw my first Gila monster for the year! I noticed that every Gila monster I've seen has been in the 4 o'clock hour. I also explored a little up the Verde River trail. I got back to the Jeep just at night fell. I took the drive back slow as to avoid that new dreaded sound. It took me four hours to get back hour.

This area is a new playground for me :y: It has numerous trails with a lot of connectors. There a lot of exploring to do! The only bad thing is the long slow drive out.
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Started from Sheep Bridge: Willow Springs - Midnight - Red Hills - Dutchman Grave - Sheep Bridge.

Day 1
Willow Springs trail was in good condition to Mountain Spring.

Day 2
Trail became sketchy at times beyond MS. Saw a deer just before the traverse around Midnight Mesa. Midnight trail was even harder to follow with just occasional cairns but not much sign of the trail. Lower down we did find some trail on the east side of the creek descending to Wet Bottom Creek. At the upper crossing of WBC the trail was a little clearer but after leaving WBC and going over the shoulder and into the next creek the trail disappears among a large burned area. We went cross county uphill to the Red Hills trail and followed it down to the lower crossing of WBC. This is my favorite place in the Mazatzals and it mostly survived the Willow fire :D

Day 3
Left WBC and followed the cairns and faint trail up hill for a mile or so and then entered another large burn where the trail completely disappeared. Found the trail at the ridge top and followed it okay for the next few miles. A couple of places you lose it for a little while. Descended down in the next creek and then up the other side towards Cypress Butte then along the mesas past some Indian ruins and the mine and down the drainage and larger creek to Dutchman Grave Spring.

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Straightforward hike out from DGS and along HK Mesa.
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Day 1
We took Willow Springs trail to, you guessed it, Willow Spring. I guess the Willow fire started somewhere near here. :(

Day 2
Short day. We continued along WS to Mountain Spring. We thought we had stumbled into a large work crew and so we camped downstream from them. They had a large canvas tent with tables and then about 10 or more dome tents scattered around. :o We assumed they were out working and would be back soon but we never saw or heard anybody so we never found out what the story was.
(Update: Next time back here in Nov 2010 there was no sign of any of the gear.)

We camped at a small clearing perhaps 100 yards down from the spring and there was more bear scat than I have ever seen in one place - although it wasn't recent... :scared:

Day3
We took Dutchman Grave trail to Dutchman Grave Spring. Saw 2 deer on the opposite of a canyon.

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Easy hike out to Sheep Bridge. Saw 2 javelina on the drive out.
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We took DGT out about 5 miles to the saddle above the spring and then returned.
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