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Jan 28 2023
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40 male
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 Chandler, AZ
Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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John10sTriplogs 346
Canyoneering16.43 Miles 1,670 AEG
Canyoneering16.43 Miles   10 Hrs   17 Mns   1.86 mph
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Canyon Hiking - Non-technical; no rope; easy scrambling; occasional hand use
A - Dry or little water; shallow or avoidable water; no wet/dry suit
I - Short 1-2 hours
 
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We started from First Water Trailhead just after sunrise on a chilly morning in the mid-30s. As we finished packing up to get on the trail, I could've sworn I saw the guy from Legend of the Superstition Mountains pull up and get out of a blue truck. Should've asked him for some gold-hunting tips...

We saw a few groups of hikers and campers on the trails early on, but the crowds thinned out quickly as we approached Parker Pass. All the water crossings had a steady flow of water, which was nice to see, and was a good sign for Needle Canyon later. The morning warmed up quickly once the sun cleared the mountains, though I had an early, hard-hitting collision with a barrel cactus hiding in some shadows while the sun was in my eyes that left spines embedded deep in my calf and a resulted in a steady flow of blood running down onto my boot.

Boulder Canyon Trail was fairly overgrown with catclaw in places, but we were only on the trail for less than a mile before turning east into Needle Canyon. This was our first time through there, and it was a really pleasant place to spend part of the day. From the beginning, there were plenty of deep pools, small waterfalls, and the constant sounds of the creek. Going through the canyon while trying to stay dry slowed things down a little...we spent a lot of time on the banks navigating through catclaw to get around some of the deeper pools, and the clippers got a good workout during that segment of the hike.

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The western part of the canyon has a lot more bends and turns than the east side and was also rockier, with more falls and pools. If we had more time, I wanted to leave the creek bed and hike up to Hill 2769 in Red Hills, but we still had a lot of miles to cover, so that I saved that for another day. By the time we got back on a trail, we'd covered just under three miles in the canyon from the entrance off of Boulder Canyon to the exit onto Bull Pass, and we'd managed to stay dry but certainly not scratch-free.

We decided to take a longer route back via Dutchman around Black Top Mesa and through East Boulder Canyon. As it turned out, taking the long route back might not've been the best decision...the barrel cactus pokes hadn't bothered me much up to that point, but as we left Needle Canyon, the leg started to tighten up with some swelling that made it painful to bend or straighten my leg...both of which are important for walking :). And so I ended up limping through the last eight miles...I've had plenty of run-ins with cacti over the years, but the delayed reaction was unusual, and this was by far the most painful I've had to deal with.

But the scenery in East Boulder Canyon was worth it. We took a food break near the creek, then paused briefly at Caballo Camp to check out some of the inscriptions (and graffiti) that we'd never paid much attention to on previous visits. We passed a few more groups along Dutchman on the hike out and finished just before sunset. A very enjoyable day in the Superstitions except for the cactus stabbing, which only felt worse after tightening up in the car on the way home. I realized I hadn't had a tetanus booster in a long time, so I got one the next day. I guess there's a certain irony that a hike to Needle Canyon led to a shot...
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Jan 22 2022
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 Joined Apr 13 2011
 Gilbert, AZ
Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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ddgrunningTriplogs 604
Canyoneering17.69 Miles 2,082 AEG
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Hit the trail from the First Water TH at about 6:50 a.m. There were about 10 other cars in the parking lot by that time. The sun was not up yet, but it was fine to hike without headlamp. Lots of cloud cover in the morning, and a brief sprinkle of rain right out of the gate.

I peeled off on the Dutchman Trail and was mostly alone, other than one more hiker who leapfrogged with me a time of two, as I stopped to take photos. Passed another backpacker or two and a group of trail runners before arriving at the junction with Little Boulder Canyon.

I know some don't like the Dutchman, but I'm a fan, especially since there was water flowing along the creek.

Turning down Boulder Canyon, the scenery and water features improved. The trail was sometimes hit and miss, but the direction/path was clear. Sometimes I skipped the path and just followed the creekbed anyway since there were some nice pools and flowing water.

The highlight was the route up Needle Canyon. Lots of water, but not so much as to make it too difficult to navigate. I enjoyed complete solitude along this stretch.

At the turn up to Bull Pass, I decided to continue on to the reconnection point with Dutchman a little further south, as I wanted to do the portion of the trail around Black Top Mesa. After circling the Mesa, I decided to climb up Bull Pass to see what I had missed and to hopefully get some good views. Nice little climb. Two tents on top of the pass, but the occupants were apparently out exploring. I decided to scramble up the nearby high point for more panoramic views, and was rewarded with a nice vista towards the Battleship. Next time I'm up here, I'll bag the peak of Black Top Mesa. It looked like there was a route heading up most of the way, and the vegetation didn't seem too gnarly. But I was already bumping up against a 17-miler and didn't want to add that much more work today. But, I bet the view from the top is very nice.

I backtracked down the Bull Pass Trail and then finished out the hike on Dutchman.

When I got back to the TH around 2 pm, the lot was full.

A solid day in the Supes and bonus to check of some trail I hadn't been on before.
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Oct 13 2018
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 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking14.01 Miles 2,015 AEG
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Not sure how this defaults to a canyoneering trip, but whatevs. (I mean, I guess it does go through a canyon :-k )

Despite the forecast we headed out for a day in the desert, with plenty of appropriate gear. The rain began shortly after we started, and lasted for a couple of hours before slowing. We managed to complete the hike just before the skies opened up again. Saw two other hikers who also have the same immunity to rain that apparently causes immediate death in the rest of the population. Basically a fantastic day out there!!

Best part of the day ... 9Ls Jeep drove on a dirt road. While it was raining!!! : rambo : :o
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Plenty of big pools wherever there was bedrock.

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Oct 13 2018
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 Joined Mar 28 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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Tough_BootsTriplogs 755
Hiking14.01 Miles 2,015 AEG
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Fun day in the rain.
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Oct 13 2018
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking avatar Oct 13 2018
John9LTriplogs 1,647
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I met up with Kyle & Chumley for a rainy & fun hike in the western Supes. We wanted to get out for a few hours and expected rain so we came up with Red Hills Needle Canyon. It seemed like a good option & Kyle and Chumley never hiked it before. We left First Water lot around 8am and headed in and cruised down the Dutchman Trail. There were around 15 cars at the TH but we saw very few people out. A light rain started falling a few miles in and would last for several hours as we connected to Red Hells and hiked up the canyon. The going was a little slow due to all the water and sections of heavy brush. We kept at it and stopped to eat lunch at the junction with Bull Pass. The rain let up at this point and we enjoyed the solitude.

After lunch, we climbed over Bull Pass and then connected onto the Black Mesa Trail. From there it was steady going as we passed Yellow Mountain and headed to the high point. The trail was very muddy & slowed us down for a bit. We eventually connected onto the Second Water Trail and arrived back to the jeep soon after. The rain held off the last few miles of this hike but the skies opened and it poured minutes after driving away. We timed this hike just right.
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Dec 26 2015
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Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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John9LTriplogs 1,647
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Nice hike on a relatively cool day. We started hiking from First Water Trailhead at 9:15am and made good time down the Lost Dutchman Trail. These section of trail is a chore but goes by quick. Along the way I took off my fleece and stowed it in my pack. Two women dressed for snowshoeing in Flag commented that we were from out of town. I told them we're locals. :lol:

From there it was easy going as we connected into Boulder Canyon where there were some good pools of water. We headed north and connected into Red Hills. The going was relatively easy as we made our way up canyon. There were more pools of water but nothing flowing. We eventually connected back on trail and headed west over Bull Pass and took a lunch.

After lunch we followed the Black Mesa Trail and made good time as we dropped into Garden Valley. We decided to continue straight and passed Hackberry Spring. We continued hiking and headed past the old corral on our way back to the road and we were back to the jeep a little after 3pm. This was a nice and chill multi-loop hike.
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 Tempe, AZ
Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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clairebearTriplogs 163
Hiking14.93 Miles 2,100 AEG
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We set of from First Water trailhead on a cold morning and watched a guy in shorts/ tshirt combo walk off ahead of us. Although 9L had shorts on, I guess since he had a fleece with him he was comfy. We hiked up the familiar Dutchman Trail and then turned onto Boulder Canyon trail for a bit. We took a chilly break and I ate part of my sandwich and decided that we would continue on to Red Hills Needle Canyon. Decent pools of water and scrambling in some areas to stay dry. I got my foot wet when a rock wasn't quite as stable as I'd hoped and slipped into the cold water :( After Red Hills we found the Bull Pass trail and hiked out. After the high point we dropped down and found the large yellow Boulders 9L likes for our lunch break. We connected to Black Mesa Trail on to Garden Valley decided to continue on the Hackberry in order find the old corral.
The hike flew by pretty quickly and we passed many familiar trails. I really enjoy the Dutchman trail and Garden Valley has always been a favorite spot.
It was cool to see the old corral again- having hiked there a few years ago after randomly picking out a Garden Vally/ Hackberry loop from the Supes Hiking book. Another good day hiking in the Supes ^^^
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Feb 21 2015
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Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Canyoneering15.33 Miles 2,645 AEG
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I had a few things to search for and then got distracted and ended up going through the Red Hills but not on the old trail. The first order was to look for Peg Aylor's inscription at Caballo camp and the up on Black Top Mesa to look at the Fay Ward inscription. After hiking down from BTM I hiked down to Needle Canyon and got redirected down the creek. I noticed Malapais Mountain in the distance and thought, Why not?, then decide to go cross country toward Cavalry trail instead of backtracking. I soon found on old camp, some claim markers and a prospect hole. There is also a quartz peak in there too. I had planned a trip up old squaw canyon but opted out for another day. I was in cruise mode going down cavalry trail and saw a small gila monster coming toward me. I took a few photos and continued down to Boulder trail. I first saw a few hikers enjoying the boulder creek and about half way to the junction of Second Water trail I hiked up on some naked swimmers. I stopped a minute to let the lady get some cover and then continued on. There was a large group of campers near the Second Water/Boulder Creek junction so I think the swimmers may have been with them. Once on Second Water trail I strolled to the trailhead and exited about 2pm. You never know what you may find in the Supes.
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Canyoneering15.56 Miles 2,587 AEG
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Clockwise Loop. Will add more details later
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Battleship Mountain - SuperstitionsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Day 1: First Water TH to Battleship Mtn summit via the standard route, carrying 8 liters of water total (3 in reservoir) and camped on summit area. Beautiful sunset and next morning sunrise from summit. I saw some standing water up on the summit plateau.
Day 2: Descended from summit and ran into Van and Josh (?) "Devils Mountain" who were just starting up. I continued down to Cavalry and then into to Marsh Valley to camp. There is plenty of water in Marsh Valley and it was a chilly, damp night and morning until the sun made it over Black Mountain about 9 am.
Day 3: Headed out to Dutchman's, then a short ways on Bull Pass, then down Red Hills Needle Canyon as I wanted to look for the camera I lost in the canyon last year. No luck. Connected with Boulder Canyon to Dutchman's and back to First Water TH.
A very enjoyable trip.

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Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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Canyoneering13.40 Miles 1,422 AEG
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Been wanting to check out Needle Canyon in the Red Hills area so off we go on a perfect weather day in October. Lots of standing water in the canyon, we even saw small traces of running water as well. The first mile or so in the canyon was really easy to trek through, then we hit what I will call a "marsh area", lots of water, high grasses, and mud which made trying to stay dry difficult as we zigzagged from side to side. We saw lots of frogs/toads, found a couple of rusted cans/containers, and even some graffiti. Bull Pass trail was a little overgrown but was a nice change following the boulder hopping through the canyon. Started seeing other hikers on the Dutchman Trail once we hit the Black Mesa Trail marker.
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8 miles of this hike is on the Dutchman Trail and pretty smooth sailing. The rest requires a little more effort.

The brief trek in Boulder Canyon before you reach Needle Canyon was an ankle twisting rock hop. If there is any kind of a trail there, I didn't see it.

I was surprised at how much water was in Needle Canyon, considering how little rainfall we've had over the last year. It wasn't flowing, but there were many deep pools with decent looking water in them. Judging from the waterline, this place can hold a lot more. I imagine during a rainy season it's quite spectacular, although, I don't know how you'd trek your way through it. There were a few sections of (reasonably) barrier-free trail along the sides and I took advantage of these wherever I could find them. But mostly, the creekbed was my only option and, even without water, it was very slow going.

Humping it up and down Bull Pass wasn't as hard as I was expecting, or maybe I was just so glad to get out of the canyon and away from the endless rock hopping that I didn't mind the climb. I think this was actually my favorite part of the hike. It definitely had it's share of cardio moments, but there were some great views up there and the trail itself was varied and interesting. I might be overstating it's appeal, but I enjoyed it.

It was a beautiful day for a hike, but beyond the first quarter mile from the Trailhead, I didn't see a soul all day. Now, that's how I like to roll!
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Jan 01 2010
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Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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Canyoneering17.20 Miles 2,800 AEG
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Tour de Western Superstitions.

Time includes off-trail exploration, searching for Spanish petroglyphs, stopping for first lunch, and stopping for second lunch.

Neither Boulder nor LaBarge Creeks are running, there is water sitting stagnant in rock catch basins thoughout Needle and Boulder canyons, due to lack of full exploration of LaBarge, all I can say is that it is completely dry where I hiked by it.
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Dec 04 2009
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Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
Hiking13.40 Miles 1,422 AEG
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This is a nice loop. I went down Needle Canyon as opposed to up it. I came across a group of coatimundis at one of the bigger pools. They ran off pretty quickly and bounded up the canyon side before I could grab my camera :doh:
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Red Hills Needle CanyonPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.40 Miles 1,422 AEG
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Finding info on this area is difficult because of inconsistent naming. There are other routes through the Red Hills and a Red Hills trail in the Mazatzals. There's another Needle Canyon nearby at Weaver's Needle. The trail on the south end of Black Top Mesa used to be called Needle Cutoff Trail. Now it's just a section of the Dutchman Trail.

I probably should have named this hike: Red Hills Needle Canyon - Superstitions
Al Morrow's mine may have been in the other Needle Canyon

Whatever this hike is called, it's a great hike when there's water flowing and it's not too cold to get wet!
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