Dutchman Trail #104, AZ

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Distance One Way		18.25 miles
Trailhead Elevation		2,258 feet
Elevation Gain		850 feet
Accumulated Gain		2,810 feet
Avg Time One Way		7-9 hours
Kokopelli Seeds		27.61
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2020-10-10

wallyfrack

2020-09-19

Coffee Flat Trail #108

Tortoise_Hiker

2020-09-19

Coffee Flat Trail #108

wallyfrack

2020-06-23

Dutchman's Middle Trail

PeraltaPhil

2020-06-09

Devil's Chasm

olanwade

2020-03-07

Miners Needle Loop - Bluff Spring Mtn

DixieFlyer

2020-02-29

survivordude

2020-02-29

Boulder Canyon Loop from First Water TH

outdoor_lover

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Author mttgilbert

	Guides 5
	Routes 0
	Photos 47
	Trips 240 map ( 1,752 miles )
	Age 40
	Location Denver, CO

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Superstition Wilderness Trails

100 Hikes in AZ - 2007 Scott Warren

Map - Beartooth Superstition Wilderness

Forest Tonto

Wilderness Superstition

Preferred Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb → Early

Seasons Autumn to Spring

Sun 6:43am - 5:35pm

Official Route

173 Alternative

Water

Miners Needle Loop - Bluff Spring Mtn

2020-03-07

DixieFlyer

12.26 mi
2,626 ft

Dutchman - Terrapin - Bluff Spring

2020-02-26

billmihiker

19.27 mi
3,014 ft

First Water TH to Canyon Lake

2020-01-25

outdoor_lover

8.62 mi
1,313 ft

Charlebois from Peralta TH

2020-01-20

DixieFlyer

14.56 mi
2,309 ft

Black Mesa Loop Plus

2020-01-17

outdoor_lover

13.14 mi
1,918 ft

Aylor's Arch and Black Top Mesa

2020-01-04

DixieFlyer

13.04 mi
2,659 ft

Charlebois from Peralta TH

2019-12-16

DixieFlyer

14.5 mi
2,291 ft

First Water Reverse Flatiron

2019-11-16

Mr_Squishy

12.29 mi
3,443 ft

Weaver's Needle Lasso Loop

2019-11-09

DixieFlyer

13.78 mi
3,449 ft

Bluff Spring Mountain Loop

2019-11-03

trekkin_gecko

15.64 mi
3,150 ft

Black Top Mesa

2019-10-20

trekkin_gecko

12.24 mi
2,313 ft

Miners Needle Loop & Bluff Spring Mtn

2019-04-13

DixieFlyer

11.94 mi
2,643 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2019-03-29

muskybankr

9.39 mi
1,597 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2019-02-23

The_Eagle

15.33 mi
2,965 ft

Garden Valley - Hackberry Spring Loop

2019-02-16

The_Eagle

6.96 mi
1,031 ft

Bluff Spring Mountain Summit

2019-01-30

DixieFlyer

15.22 mi
3,570 ft

Whiskey West-Red Tanks Loop

2019-01-06

nathanbrisk

7.16 mi
975 ft

Aylor's Arch and Black Top Mesa

2019-01-05

DixieFlyer

13.02 mi
2,581 ft

Whiskey West-Red Tanks Loop

2019-01-05

nathanbrisk

8.79 mi
1,391 ft

Peralta trailhead to Lost Dutchman State Park

2018-12-20

Daytripper

16.25 mi
2,223 ft

Peters and Red Tanks Loop

2018-12-10

markthurman53

19.35 mi
3,243 ft

Black Top Mesa Plus

2018-12-01

LindaAnn

15.77 mi
2,771 ft

Black Mesa - Weavers Needle Loops

2018-12-01

The_Eagle

18.33 mi
3,233 ft

104 - 108 - to Reeds, trail work

2018-11-18

azbike

5.47 mi
827 ft

Red Tanks Coffee Flat Loop

2018-11-08

markthurman53

20.15 mi
3,149 ft

Terrapin Dutchman Loop

2018-03-22

markthurman53

15.33 mi
2,670 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH

2018-02-17

The_N

13.72 mi
3,308 ft

Bluff Springs Ducthman Loop

2018-02-11

Frostshocknoob

9.39 mi
1,730 ft

Red Tanks Super Loop - Peralta TH

2018-02-03

The_N

23.9 mi
4,135 ft

Aylor's Arch

2018-02-03

DixieFlyer

13.04 mi
2,589 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH

2018-01-28

trekkin_gecko

12.38 mi
2,952 ft

Charlebois to First Water TH

2018-01-17

nathanbrisk

8.5 mi
1,200 ft

Bluff Spring Mountain Loop

2018-01-16

nathanbrisk

10.97 mi
1,841 ft

Charlebois from First Water TH

2018-01-15

nathanbrisk

9.14 mi
1,434 ft

Second Water 1-14

2018-01-14

Frostshocknoob

6.89 mi
826 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH

2018-01-11

survivordude

14.1 mi
3,300 ft

Aylor's Arch and Black Top Mesa

2018-01-11

DixieFlyer

15.42 mi
3,111 ft

Second Water Trail #236

2018-01-07

Frostshocknoob

7.38 mi
912 ft

Black Mesa Dutchman Loop

2017-12-28

markthurman53

12.3 mi
2,188 ft

Aylor Arch - Black Top and Black Mesa

2017-12-16

joebartels

15.67 mi
3,486 ft

Aylor Arch - Black Top and Black Mesa

2017-12-16

rayhuston

15.68 mi
3,498 ft

Aylor Arch - Black Top and Black Mesa

2017-12-16

The_Eagle

16.05 mi
3,555 ft

Dripping Springs Super Loop

2017-12-14

survivordude

22.75 mi
4,076 ft

Bluff Spring Mountain Loop

2017-12-09

The_Eagle

16.36 mi
3,206 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2017-12-02

tibber

9.62 mi
1,734 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2017-11-24

rayhuston

11.95 mi
1,718 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2017-11-12

trekkin_gecko

9.32 mi
1,801 ft

Bluff Spring Mountain Loop

2017-11-05

DarthStiller

15.64 mi
3,125 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2017-11-03

FLYING_FLIVER

9.14 mi
1,586 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2017-09-26

Vashti

9.72 mi
1,244 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2017-05-09

LindaAnn

9.1 mi
1,128 ft

Bluff Spring Loop & Weaver's View

2017-05-07

DarthStiller

9.57 mi
1,873 ft

Bull Pass Ridge

2017-04-23

syoung

11.23 mi
1,530 ft

Webelos II - Bobcat Route

2017-03-29

joebartels

8.86 mi
2,542 ft

Massacre Grounds Upper First Water Loop

2017-03-25

tibber

9.57 mi
1,488 ft

Charlebois Loop II

2017-03-12

survivordude

17.97 mi
2,972 ft

Boulder Canyon Loop from First Water TH

2017-03-05

survivordude

11.65 mi
1,246 ft

Red Tanks Super Loop - Peralta TH

2017-03-04

LindaAnn

22.24 mi
3,455 ft

Whitlow Canyon Creek

2017-03-02

Daytripper

13.65 mi
1,769 ft

Bluff Spring Dutchman Loop

2017-02-20

norm5715

9.62 mi
1,723 ft

Cave Weavers Robbers Loop

2017-02-18

The_Eagle

17.03 mi
4,679 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH

2017-01-29

DallinW

12.66 mi
3,117 ft

Charlebois from Peralta TH

2017-01-28

LindaAnn

19.06 mi
3,307 ft

Hoolie Bacon - Peters Trail Loop

2017-01-28

BiFrost

19.56 mi
3,895 ft

Weaver's Needle Summit

2017-01-15

friendofThundergod

15.87 mi
5,035 ft

Dutch Whiskey Red Bacon Peters Bluff

2017-01-07

The_Eagle

23.06 mi
4,930 ft

Dutch Whiskey Red Bacon Peters

2017-01-07

joebartels

22.69 mi
4,679 ft

Marsh Valley Loop

2017-01-02

BiFrost

17.39 mi
2,158 ft

Black Top Mesa

2016-12-17

LindaAnn

12.21 mi
2,237 ft

Charlebois Loop II

2016-11-18

fricknaley

16.92 mi
2,725 ft

Horse Lot Trailhead to First Water TH

2016-11-05

AZLumberjack

3.57 mi
228 ft

Charlebois Loop II

2016-05-07

BiFrost

17.85 mi
2,961 ft

Upa Wash

2016-04-14

AZLumberjack

6.11 mi
921 ft

Cave-WC-Barks Loop

2016-04-07

KBKB

8.99 mi
2,432 ft

Upa Creek

2016-04-04

AZLumberjack

4.66 mi
436 ft

Superstition Thru Hike

2016-04-01

hikingaz2

23.47 mi
3,146 ft

Peralta TH to Canyon Lake TH

2016-03-26

rtaylor3235

14.7 mi
2,341 ft

Peralta TH to Canyon Lake TH

2016-03-26

hikingaz2

14.56 mi
2,326 ft

BSM Hidden Valley Lower Aqua Falls

2016-03-20

hikingaz2

17.45 mi
2,540 ft

Black Top Mesa

2016-03-13

hikingaz2

14.11 mi
2,124 ft

Tortilla TH to First Water TH

2016-03-11

Unregistered

17.3 mi
2,467 ft

Tortilla TH to First Water TH

2016-03-11

hikingaz2

18.88 mi
2,330 ft

Peralta TH to First Water TH

2016-03-08

hikingaz2

11.62 mi
1,997 ft

Peralta TH to First Water TH

2016-03-08

rtaylor3235

11.82 mi
2,122 ft

Charlebois from Peralta TH

2016-03-06

LindaAnn

17.87 mi
3,163 ft

Tortilla TH to First Water TH

2016-03-01

hikingaz2

20.28 mi
2,323 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2016-02-28

hikingaz2

10.93 mi
1,715 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2016-02-13

rtaylor3235

9.16 mi
1,154 ft

Whitlow Canyon Loop

2016-02-11

HAZ_Hikebot

11.66 mi
2,353 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2016-01-30

tibber

10.51 mi
1,837 ft

Boulder Canyon Loop from First Water TH

2016-01-30

The_Dude

13.85 mi
1,416 ft

Boulder Canyon Loop from First Water TH

2016-01-30

Droog

13.28 mi
1,375 ft

Black Top Mesa

2016-01-25

FLYING_FLIVER

11.76 mi
2,001 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2016-01-20

hikingaz2

9.25 mi
1,535 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2016-01-20

rtaylor3235

9.19 mi
1,796 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2016-01-20

FLYING_FLIVER

9.51 mi
1,531 ft

First Water TH to Canyon Lake

2016-01-17

Oregon_Hiker

7.78 mi
1,116 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2016-01-16

rtaylor3235

9.01 mi
1,162 ft

Bluff Spring and Coffee Flat Loops

2016-01-16

charlomechfry

29.46 mi
5,274 ft

Battleship - Garden Valley - Bull Run Loop

2016-01-02

The_Eagle

18.02 mi
3,131 ft

Hackberry Creeks n Peaks Super Loop

2015-11-07

joebartels

14.57 mi
2,857 ft

Hackberry Creeks n Peaks Super Loop

2015-11-07

The_Eagle

14.77 mi
2,750 ft

Black Top Mesa

2015-10-10

trekkin_gecko

14.88 mi
2,270 ft

Trap Canyon Loop

2015-03-08

The_Eagle

19.01 mi
3,776 ft

Trap Canyon

2015-03-08

joebartels

17.9 mi
3,592 ft

Whiskey-Red Tanks-Coffee Flat Loop

2015-02-22

rayhuston

18.68 mi
3,092 ft

Black Top Mesa and Yellow Peak

2015-02-16

rayhuston

13.88 mi
3,131 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2015-02-15

War247

9.14 mi
1,208 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH

2015-01-28

JuanJaimeiii

12.22 mi
2,935 ft

Campaign TH to First Water TH

2015-01-18

friendofThundergod

42.08 mi
6,927 ft

Boulder Canyon Loop from First Water TH

2015-01-18

War247

12.49 mi
1,509 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH

2015-01-17

BiFrost

16.89 mi
3,356 ft

Charlebois Loop II

2015-01-10

joebartels

17.11 mi
2,855 ft

Charlebois Loop II

2015-01-10

The_Eagle

18.17 mi
2,988 ft

Bluff Spring Mtn Miners Loop

2014-12-20

chumley

12.13 mi
2,882 ft

Peralta 102 to Dutchmans 104

2014-12-16

zeb

11.63 mi
1,837 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2014-09-08

chumley

9 mi
1,692 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta TH

2014-05-17

ddgrunning

12.88 mi
3,218 ft

Second Water Trail #236

2014-04-04

charlomechfry

7.48 mi
862 ft

Black Top Mesa

2014-03-30

FLYING_FLIVER

12.83 mi
2,200 ft

Cave Trail Bark's Canyon Loop

2014-03-23

trekkin_gecko

7.49 mi
1,910 ft

Yellow Peak - Superstitions

2014-02-11

AZLumberjack

10.6 mi
1,198 ft

Aylor Arch - Little Boulder Cyn - Boulder Cyn

2014-02-08

The_Eagle

15.98 mi
3,774 ft

Aylor Arch - Little Boulder Cyn - Boulder Cyn

2014-02-08

joebartels

15.34 mi
3,298 ft

Nightmare in the Superstitions Revisited

2014-02-01

The_Eagle

16.73 mi
4,502 ft

Nightmare in the Superstitions Revisited

2014-02-01

joebartels

16.12 mi
3,880 ft

Charlebois from Peralta TH

2014-01-25

tibber

14.77 mi
2,325 ft

Black Top Mesa

2014-01-13

trekkin_gecko

17.99 mi
2,886 ft

Buzzards Roost from Peralta

2014-01-11

JuanJaimeiii

14.84 mi
2,811 ft

Peralta TH to First Water TH

2014-01-04

tibber

12.02 mi
1,991 ft

Picacho Butte ravine mess around

2014-01-03

Tough_Boots

14.7 mi
3,435 ft

Boulder - La Barge Canyon Loop

2013-11-17

BiFrost

18.43 mi
2,792 ft

First Water TH to Peralta TH

2013-03-30

garyc57

11.37 mi
2,246 ft

Weaver's Needle Loop

2013-03-17

charlomechfry

11.94 mi
2,886 ft

W Boulder / Peralta Ridge Dabble

2013-03-09

joebartels

20.21 mi
3,889 ft

Dutchman-Peralta-Peralta Ridge Explore

2013-03-09

The_Eagle

20.75 mi
4,077 ft

Mick's Supes Loop Hike

2013-03-04

SAMBA

13.07 mi
3,051 ft

Dutchman Trail/Pre-Alignment

2013-02-28

FLYING_FLIVER

6.18 mi
806 ft

Tibber Loop

2013-02-25

tibber

7.91 mi
2,071 ft

Charlebois from First Water TH

2013-02-17

John9L

22.98 mi
3,285 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2013-01-20

charlomechfry

9.29 mi
1,707 ft

Bluff Spring Mountain Summit

2013-01-13

FLYING_FLIVER

11.49 mi
9,154 ft

Picacho Butte / Coffee Flat Mountain

2013-01-12

The_Eagle

16.5 mi
4,255 ft

Picacho 4294 / 4621 / Coffee Ridge

2013-01-12

joebartels

16.24 mi
4,120 ft

Boulder Canyon Loop

2013-01-06

charlomechfry

18.93 mi
3,569 ft

LaBarge Box / Marsh Valley Loop

2013-01-05

Tough_Boots

19.52 mi
3,756 ft

Boulder Canyon Loop from First Water TH

2012-12-29

tibber

11.29 mi
1,254 ft

Miners Needle Loop

2012-12-22

tibber

9.38 mi
1,508 ft

Nightmare on Superstition Peak

2012-12-15

joebartels

14.42 mi
3,690 ft

Nightmare on Superstition Peak

2012-12-15

The_Eagle

14.16 mi
3,989 ft

Black Top Mesa Loop

2012-12-08

charlomechfry

14.32 mi
2,132 ft

Coffee Flat Mountain

2012-03-29

FLYING_FLIVER

5.13 mi
1,557 ft

Charlebois from First Water TH

2012-03-03

John9L

17.99 mi
2,249 ft

Robbers Roost / Weavers Needle Loop

2012-03-03

The_Eagle

15.29 mi
3,799 ft

Black Top Mesa

2012-03-03

tibber

15.6 mi
2,541 ft

Dripping Springs from Peralta

2012-02-18

tibber

7.13 mi
1,027 ft

BTM BSM Hidden Valley Loop Hell

2012-02-18

The_Eagle

23.79 mi
4,712 ft

BTM BSM Hidden Valley Loop Hell

2012-02-18

joebartels

23.79 mi
4,335 ft

SW Tour de Force

2012-02-11

joebartels

24.01 mi
3,455 ft

Dripping Springs Super Loop

2012-02-11

The_Eagle

24.52 mi
4,086 ft

Marsh Valley Loop

2012-01-28

tibber

14.84 mi
1,927 ft

Whiskey West-Red Tanks Loop

2012-01-21

tibber

14.36 mi
2,140 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2012-01-06

BEEBEE

10.44 mi
1,334 ft

Boulder Canyon Loop from First Water TH

2011-11-19

tibber

11.88 mi
1,229 ft

Aylor's Arch

2011-03-20

tibber

10.79 mi
1,550 ft

Black Mesa Loop - Superstition Mtns

2011-01-16

GrottoGirl

15.02 mi
3,179 ft

Whiskey Charlebois Loop

2010-12-19

Tough_Boots

17.24 mi
2,522 ft

Marsh Valley / Bull Pass cut-thru

2010-10-22

Tough_Boots

14.52 mi
1,683 ft

Red Hills Needle Canyon

2010-03-22

nonot

17.17 mi
2,896 ft

Bluff Spring Loop & Weaver's View

2010-03-13

tibber

7.45 mi
1,010 ft

Weaver's Bluff Spring Loop

2010-03-05

pencak

16.68 mi
3,631 ft

Cavalry Trail #239

2010-02-06

larbrad

16.13 mi
2,628 ft

Bluff Sprg Mtn Loop via Barkley Basin

2010-01-31

pencak

16.97 mi
3,246 ft

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Tracks of Gold
by mttgilbert

Dutchman Trail #104 connects the Peralta and First Water trailheads. This description reads from Peralta to First Water. Many intersecting trails for possible side trips or variable routes are available. Since the trail is so long, I will break it into smaller segments. If you are looking at a map of this trail, be careful, the USGS map incorrectly labels the Bluff Spring trail as the Dutchman Trail, and the trail that should be the Dutchman's is labeled as Miners Trail. The Beartooth Superstition Wilderness map has the trails correctly labeled. There is also confusion in the USGS maps regarding the trail's course around the Black Top Mesa Area. Again, defer to the Beartooth Map.

Peralta TH to Miners Summit
The trail heads out east from the TH. It immediately gains a little elevation, but then evens out, before starting the ascent up to Miners Summit. The ascent starts at the intersection with Coffee Flat Trail #108. The trail gains about 1200 ft in a mile and a half. This is the highest point of elevation on the trip, so enjoy it.

Miners Summit to Marsh Valley
This part of the trail is all downhill or relatively level. Right on the summit is the intersection to the Whiskey Spring Trail #238. Shortly after the summit is the Bluff Spring Trail #235, this will take you back to Peralta in about 3 miles. Bluff Spring is known to have water sporadically, ask the local rangers. The next trail is the Red Tanks Trail #107, which will lead back to Whiskey Spring. This is also the approximate location of LaBarge Spring, which usually has filterable water. A mile or so up the trail, you will find the intersection of Peters Trail #105 and also Charlebois Spring (also usually has water available). This section's remainder is about 1.5 miles and ends at the intersection of the Cavalry Trail #239.

Marsh Valley to Aylors Caballo Camp: The trail through this area was a bit rougher than the rest of the trail and seemed a bit less traveled, but the trails are usually easy to find. Right after Marsh Valley, the trail takes a sharp curve to the south and loop around the bottom of Black Top Mesa. This section can be eliminated by taking the Bull Pass Trail #129. The Bull Pass trail saves about a mile and a half of the distance but has much more elevation change. Underneath Black Top Mesa, there are two options for returning to Peralta Trailhead. The first is the Terrapin Trail #234 and the second is the Peralta Trail #102. This section contains another uphill section. This one is less steep though it only climbs about 500 feet in a mile. After the intersection with the Peralta Trail, the Dutchman Trail heads north again. A little less than a mile comes Aylor's Caballo Camp (this is not shown on the Beartooth map but is shown on the USGS map).

Aylors Caballo Camp to Parker Pass
Aylors Caballo Camp is the intersection of three trails with the Dutchman Trail, where the Bull Pass trail again connects to the Dutchman Trail. Boulder Canyon Trail #103 and the Black Mesa Trail #241 also intersect here. After this is the last small climb up to Parker Pass, the trail gains about 400 feet in a mile.

Parker Pass to Firstwater Trailhead
This was by far the easiest section of the trail. The trail is well maintained, wide, and smooth. It's almost all downhill after Parker Pass, except the last 100 yards before the parking lot. Right before you get to the Trailhead, the trail is intersected by Second Water Trail #236. From here to the Trailhead is less than a half a mile.

Remember that water is never a sure thing in the Superstitions, and you should check with the Rangers about local conditions.

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2003-11-30 mttgilbert

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