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Sawmill Trail #39 - 4 members in 11 triplogs have rated this an average 2.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,375
Hiking16.20 Miles 4,029 AEG
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1st trip
I decided to go hike up to 2 fire lookouts south of Alpine: Bear Mountain 8560 and Rose Peak. Both peaks are in the Apache-Sitgreaves Forest; Bear Mountain 8560 is also in the Blue Range Primitive Area.

Bear Mountain 8560
Starting at the Blue Camp Trailhead, I did a CW lasso loop hike on these trails: Lamphier-Largo-WS Lake-Sawmill-Telephone Ridge-Largo-Lanphier

Lanphier Trail
I was only on the Lanphier Trail for about a half mile, and I don't have much to say about it. It was in decent shape and easy to follow.

There was a creek crossing near the start of the trail that was a bit too deep to keep my feet dry, so I went back to the truck to put some old shoes on to get across the creek. When I got back to the creek I couldn't remember if I had locked the truck, so I went back to see. This back and forth added almost 1/2 mile to the hike.

Largo Trail
After leaving the Lanphier Trail I took the Largo Trail. The first part of the trail goes up to a ridge between Lanphier and Largo Canyons, and then it descends into Largo Canyon. On the ridge there are nice views of the Blue. I enjoyed hiking through the canyon -- there are lots of hardwood trees which will likely have nice foliage later in the fall. Eventually I came to a junction with the Little Blue Trail, which goes to the east. At this point the Largo Trail heads SW for about 3/4 mile to the WS Lake Trail. The Largo Trail was in decent shape and was easy to follow all the way through Largo Canyon. However, the trail became faint once past the Little Blue Trail junction, and the Largo Trail essentially disappeared some distance before getting to the WS Lake Trail, and I was mostly bushwhacking through chest high ferns until getting to the WS Lake Trail.

WS Lake Trail
This trail goes to the summit of Bear Mountain. It is a steep ascent up the east side of Bear Mountain, but there are several long switchbacks which dampen the rate of ascent a bit. The trail is a bit rocky, but it is in decent shape and is easy to follow. It was a nice summit, although there are lots of trees around which limit views unless you decide to climb up to the lookout.

There were lots of deer in the summit area, including one that was standing almost beneath the lookout. At the lookout I saw one of the biggest bucks that I have ever seen.

Sawmill Trail
This trail mostly exists in name only -- in some places there is a faint trail, but for the most part there may as well not be a trail. In the upper part of the trail I was going through a nice pine forest, and the lack of a trail was not a hindrance, but I stopped to check my GPS fairly frequently to make sure that I was going in the right direction. As you descend Telephone Ridge on the Sawmill Trail, it gets to be a bit brushy.

Telephone Ridge Trail
This trail goes down from the Sawmill Trail to the Largo Trail. It is a steep descent, and the trail really doesn't exist at the upper part of the trail; just head down the best way that you can. About half-way to the Largo Trail I was able to pick up the trail for the rest of the descent. The trail was faint though, and I still checked my GPS fairly frequently.

Once back on the Largo Trail I went back to the TH the way that I came.

Going back on the Sawmill and Telephone Ridge Trails shortened the hike distance by about 1 mile as compared to going back from the Bear Mountain summit the way that I came. However, the going was slow and I doubt if I saved any time by doing the loop; in fact, it may have taken longer.

Synopsis
This is a nice scenic area to hike in, and if you like solitude you are almost guaranteed to find it. However, even thought the entire hike is on named trails, you'll be doing some bushwhacking and route finding.

Rose Peak
I went up and back to the summit on a service road that leads to the summit. There are nice views at the summit, and I enjoyed this hike. I did not get started until about 5:15, and it was twilight before I got back. I can't say that I enjoyed driving in the dark from the TH to Morenci -- that is some kind of road!

Distance and AEG for the 2 hikes are below. Stats above are the sum of the 2.
Bear Mountain: 13.5 miles with an AEG of 3,537 feet
Rose Peak: 2.7 miles with an AEG of 502 feet
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A few leaves were starting to change on the Largo Trail, but there is not much to see at this time.

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I could not tell how fast the spring was dripping, but the spring box was full
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Blue Crossing CampgroundAlpine, AZ
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Hiking35.17 Miles 7,090 AEG
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1st trip
It was far too hot to be enjoyable, but I was looking to do some heat training hikes so this fit the bill. I would not recommend this time of year to visit the Blue, it was 90 degrees by 9:30 AM and stayed at least that hot until 7 PM each day.

It is quite the drought, and the Blue River itself dries up before reaching Sawmill trailhead.

Highlight was seeing a bear on day 3. Saw dozens of elk and deer, because of the dry conditions I think they are all getting driven down into the Blue River valley in search of water.

Day 1: Up S Canyon, along Cow Flat, down Lanphier
Day 2: Tutt Creek and a bit of Foote Creek
Day 3: Up Largo, to WS Lake to get tot the top of Bear Mtn, down Sawmill

The forest service appears to take trail maintenance seriously, though there are some newish fallen trees. The worst is the middle part of Sawmill trail, where it is heavily eroded before reaching telephone ridge, and the trail is also getting eaten by brush.
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A few prickly poppies

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Dry in the area

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Muddy ground here, but it was wet


dry Cow Flat Spring Dry Dry

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The spring catchment was full, though it was muddy.

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Middle Foote Creek was dry at Tutt Creek Trail intersection, but was trickles and pools the next mile upstream

dry Franz Spring Dry Dry

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The lower 2 miles of Lanphier had good flow, the upper part of the canyon was dry

dry Largo Creek Dry Dry

dry Maple Spring Dry Dry


dry S Canyon Dry Dry

dry Tutt Creek Dry Dry

dry Whoa Canyon Dry Dry
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May 27 2016
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Bear Mtn Loop - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
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Backpack42.12 Miles 8,216 AEG
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1st trip
Lee took the lead on planning this one and it turned out to be a great introduction to the PBR. I was a little surprised to find that this area is much more like the rim country near Payson than the White Mountains as I was expecting. The Blue River valley is only 5500 feet, and while our route took us up to higher elevations, the landscape overall reminded me of the same Mogollon Rim 120 miles farther west.

The upper portion of Sawmill along Telephone Ridge was the highlight of day 1, with big views and a pleasant climb after the steep connector that climbs up from Largo. Bear Mountain is obscured by trees, and the old lookout tower isn't tall enough to see over them. Maybe that's why it's been decommissioned!

Bear Valley is a great spot. I could set up a base camp here and explore. The trip down Little Blue was a great suprise with running water and amazing geology. Huge spires loom above the canyon. I climbed up the ridge adjacent to the canyon to get a better view, but the afternoon sun made it tough to capture any photos. I tried to find trail 341 on the way back to Bear Valley, but I couldn't find even the slightest sign of old tread amongst the fire deadfall and new growth.

Saturday we made the quick trip over to Franz spring and set up camp near the old cabin before heading off to check out the Tige Rim. I had been excited to see this area, but found the reward not to be worth the rest of the hike. It's just a long, hot, dry slog to get to a couple of great view points. In retrospect, I'd skip the loop and just hike the south part of the loop to the views and head back from there.

We returned to camp to find a huge group of people camped right next to us. I'm guessing it was a meetup kind of thing. Apparently they don't backpack into the wilderness looking for peaceful solitude because it didn't occur to them to find a spot to camp that might be just out of view or earshot of others. I've encountered this before, and it is something I will never understand. Might as well have headed for Woods Canyon Lake! :-({|=

In the morning we headed down Lanphier back toward the trailhead. We passed numerous groups along the way. It was actually quite surprising even on a holiday weekend in the Blue. We figured that articles last year in Backpacker (Nov 15) and possibly AZH (July 15) contributed to the 21 cars :o in the parking lot. (We were the only car when we started).

While Lanphier is a pleasant canyon with shade and a stream, I'm not sure I'd like to use it for the ascent. It is steep in places and I could see it really taking it's toll on somebody carrying a heavy pack.

Thanks to Lee for the intro to the PBR. Sorry we didn't make it down to Ladrone. Next time!
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Bear Valley Cabin Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Seeps provide light trickle into good pools downstream of corral.

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Visible seep, muddy water. Irrelevant due to good flow in adjacent creek.

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Lots of seeps with ample opportunities to filter from many different pools

dry Cow Flat Spring Dry Dry
Just some wet mud. Would be nearly impossible to get anything from this, and not worth the effort.

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Full springbox

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Full springbox. Plenty to filter.

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Lanphier Canyon Light flow Light flow

dry Uee Spring Dry Dry
Couldn't find spring source. A couple of nasty muddy pools in the canyon.

dry Yam Canyon Dry Dry
Canyon is sandy and bouldery from flash flood damage presumably due to upstream fire.
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Backpack42.49 Miles 7,974 AEG
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FOTG offered up 3 day backpacking in the Primitive Blue Range for Memorial Day Weekend so naturally I was ready to see the Blue again. I've been to this area before but always up for more as this area has always been one of my favorites.

Day 1 was the most difficult with the majority of elevation in the first 6 miles with heavy packs. We started from Lanphier TH, then up Largo Canyon to Telephone Ridge and dropped our packs 1/4 mile from Bear Mountain and then hit the summit. The summit is scenic with cabin and tower however the tower does not have great views which is blocked by trees. Guessing the trees have just grown over time and blocked the view. We enjoyed the summit and then headed back down to our packs and eventually into Bear Valley where we found a cool camp spot. Arriving camp fairly early we had time to day hike about 2.5 miles down Little Blue Creek. As mentioned in the others triplogs it's lush, with intermittent flowing creek and cool rocky spires. It was out and back so we had time to really check out the canyon before returning to camp.

Day 2 we decided to hike over to Franz Spring/Cabin and setup camp. We got to Franz early hoping to be the first and we were. Setup camp near the cabin and then packed up for a 15 mile day hike. The day hike was lasso loop over to Hinkle Spring, then Tigre Rim and loop back to Bonanza Bill trail to Franz Cabin. The loop was a bit hot and dry with only water at Hinkle Spring in 15 miles. Blanco was definitely glad for the day hike to be over. Back at camp we settled in but had to share the camp with a somewhat noisy group of 10+ that had rolled in while we were on our day hike.

Day 3 we just had a short mostly downhill 6 miles out to the TH at Lanphier so light work for this group. Very surprised to see several large groups either camping or on their way into the Blue. FOTG did some research and found that backpacker magazine had published a recent article for this exact area and also Arizona Highways had one around the same time. Having been to the Blue many times in the past 15 years I've never seen so many people at such a remote TH as Lanphier so I can only assume this was the reason. Regardless we had a great 3 days in the Blue!!
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water in the creek near the corral

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pipe dripping clear water

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lots of seeps with filter options

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full tub of clear water

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clear tub to filter from

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good spring flow into Lanphier Canyon confluence

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good flow for about 3 miles in the creek

dry Uee Spring Dry Dry

dry Yam Canyon Dry Dry
mostly dry but did see one small pool if needed water
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My doggie, Frank, wasn't up for the 18 mile loop the rest of the crew was on, so we attempted to make Bear Cabin via the Sawmill Trail. We didn't quite get there, but we enjoyed our day.
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Amy's birthday weekend so we all headed to Hannagan Meadow on Friday night. Car camped in Hannagan Meadow Campground that night before heading out for Lanphier Canyon TH to do the Bear Mountain Loop. The drive down to the TH is about 1 hour so we didn't get started until about 830.

First up Lanphier Canyon which is very lush and good flow in the first 3.5 miles of this canyon. Then it goes dry just before Cashier Spring but the spring did have a trickle. After that the trail leaves the main canyon and heads over to Franz Spring where we took a break and tanked up on water filtering several liters. Unfortunately this also where we realized a mistake. Originally we had planned on a 12 or 13 mile loop but we passed the turnoff at Largo Canyon and instead kept going straight up Lanphier. As much as the rest of the crew claims I did this on purpose to get more mileage I swear it was a mistake :) Regardless the Franz Spring area was cool to check out or as we were calling it Hanz and Franz Spring. The cabin onsite was in really good shape and the spring tub had plenty of good water to filter.

From there we headed up Cow Flat Trail towards Bear Mountain. This stretch was relatively flat so we made good time despite realizing we had an extra 6 miles to do. Finally made the switchbacks below Bear Mtn and were on top by around 2pm. Took another good break with summit beverage and checked out the cabin and tower.

Then we went down Telephone Ridge and the Sawmill Trail which was slightly different than the true Blue Mtn Loop. Sawmill was much rockier and steeper than all the other trails of the day and doesn't waste time dropping the 3000 AEG down to the Blue River. We met Kathy at Sawmill TH who had driven the vehicle from Lanphier that morning. We had hoped to see Kathy and Frank our dog on the trail but because of the extra mileage she finished before we could catch up. We all met at the Sawmill TH for a post hike beverage before heading back to Hannagan Meadow Campground.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Cashier Spring Dripping Dripping
slow trickle with some very small pools below the source

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large tub full of decent clear water. no problem filtering

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Decent flow and pools
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So since I had a diverse crowd with me, and never having been to the area before, I relied on some awesome beta from fellow HAZer FOTG who's been to the area before. He was SO kind to draw me up some tracks on the map to give us options (thank you Lee!!!) So that morning, based on who was going, and what time it was that we'd be starting (and looking at JJ's times and worrying :lol:), we decided on the middle loop of about 13ish mis., but we'd end up cutting off 2 miles of road walking between THs due to Kathy and Frank hiking from Sawmill.

Well, OOPS, we all passed the junction of where we should've turned off and would have done the 13ish loop, and assumed we went up Lanphier (which I was glad, as that was my favorite part of the hike - that canyon was green and lush and gorgeous!!) It turns out that was the big loop that Karl and I secretly wanted to do, but knew the others wouldn't want to. {have to lay it on Karl though, since he's Karl the Compass ;)}

Oh well, I guess I got my birthday wish of doing a long hike, although I felt really badly for the rest of the crew who either wasn't expecting that kind of mileage/AEG or just plain was in pain and HATED it (I won't mention any names Mark, don't worry!) Poor guy.

Tugger, on the other hand, was a TOTAL trooper!!!!!!! Man, he didn't complain once, not once! I love my amazing, athletic, awesome dog! :wlift:

Afterward, drinking beer and wine in the parking lot, and back at camp was worth all the pain and suffering (for me, of putting up with poor Mark, ha!) Then we got a treat of a thunderstorm while cooking/eating dinner - wahoo! :y:

Thanks guys for a fun weekend and a great first exposure to the BRW & PA. I definitely want to go back!
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Originally, I had planned a four day three night trek into the Primitive Blue Range. However, on the day of my departure I decided I would at least inquire about the weather. My go to guy painted a pretty bleak outlook for the weekend. I decided I would just remain flexible and car camp if necessary and complete several day hikes in the area. I think my weather man was in a bit of a fear mongering mood because the conditions ended up being closer to pretty normal July conditions for the P.B.R. Areas of the high rim country certainly got hammered, but I did not endure through that much nasty weather during the entire trip. That being said, Chumley is pretty spot on most of the time with his weather so I opted for a large day hike on day one a car camp and then playing the rest of the weekend by ear. Sounds like the big storm never really materialized on my side of the state leading to the pretty normal monsoon season conditions for that area.

There were some dark clouds in the morning when I started which provided some immediate reinforcement to my decision to change plans. However, things changed quickly and the rest of the day apart from one small shower was beautiful. In fact, I spent most of the day cursing the fact that I did not bring my camping gear as I passed numerous picture perfect sites nestled away in the Blue Range. However, I know if I had got caught in a nasty electrical storm and downpour I would be cursing the fact that I was not sitting inside my warm well-grounded Xterra listening to a ballgame on satellite radio.

The loop I hiked quickly erased any real disappointment that may have popped up. I borrowed the loop idea from the 100 Hikes in AZ book and basically followed JJ's track from a few years ago, except the four mile detour down into the very scenic and remote Bear Valley. Without overstating the hike too much it was truly memorable and certainly one of my better ones in recent memory. This was due in large part to the amount of wildlife I saw on the hike, the interesting summit of Bear Mountain, a chance encounter with a local and the very scenic Lamphier Trail/Canyon to finish up the day.

Blanco and I had a real cool moment with a sow and her cub appropriately near the summit of Bear Mountain. I spotted the cub first and grabbed Blanco as mom made her way into the picture. She stared at us for quite a long time at a distance of about 30 meters or so, however, I made no threatening gestures or movements towards her and just calmly held Blanco while snapping away with my IPhone of course. She definitely noticed Blanco but just nonchalantly walked away with her cub closely behind after a few minutes. I will be honest if she charged us my plan A involved unleashing Blanco, but it never even came close to that and turned out to be a pretty cool encounter.

Bear Mountain has a pretty interesting summit, but the views are less than spectacular due to the trees. The real nice views will be coming up Telephone Ridge and exiting the mountain via WS Lake Trail #54. I loved Bear Valley, saw my first bobcat/lynx for an extended period of time in AZ, very cool. I ran into an interesting guy at Franz Spring who turned out to possess a wealth of knowledge about the area, more on that in next triplog, but it involves rock piles. I loved the setting at Franz Spring so much that I decided it would be my destination for an over-night trip via Bonanza Bill Trail #23 the next day.

Lamphier Canyon is a little rugged but very scenic especially as you approach the lower elevations and the creek becomes perennial. It was in Lamphier that Blanco and I had our final bear encounter of that day. It was another mom and her cub, however, this sow was much larger and the situation was a little bit more sketchy in the narrow confines of the canyon. I gave her a very wide berth pulled Blanco the other way and did not even attempt a picture until she was far to shaded and in too thick of brush to show up on any pictures taken from my IPhone. Turns out the wettest I got all day was from crossing the Blue.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Cashier Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
A pool near area marked spring, only water in area.

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Trough is full and clean, water in creek bed from over-flow

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I made another semi ambitious trek into the Primitive Blue Range. More specifically, I made my first significant indents into the more remote eastern portions. I say "semi ambitious" because I took along Cup and had to scale back some of my ambitions. However, Cup ended up doing just fine, Blanco loved carrying her food and we only had to alter our day two plans slightly in her consideration.

Day 1: I stayed at the Foot Creek Trail head and decided to just make the quick 2-3 mile drive up 191 in the morning to the trail head for P-Bar Lake Trail. Foot Creek TH is further off road has basic restroom facilities and forest service does not mind. The P-Bar Lake Trail is literally just a pull-off on side of road, not conducive to car camping with dogs. Day one miles seemed to go by and pile up fast. Grant Creek Trail is a really solid trail with minimal areas of complete fire devastation. The Paradise Park area is certainly in recovery phase, but looking very promising, with some stubborn ponderosa still alive and healthy guarding the meadows edges and several young 3-5 feet pine starting over among a mixture of fast growing aspen. Grant Creek Trail is a tad bittersweet though, as one can't help but think that eventually 9000 feet will have to be reached again after hitting a trip low of about 5,100 feet above sea level on the first day. Made camp at the intersections of Lanphier and Largo Canyon, great spot, probably pushed cup a little hard, (16.5 miles)threatened several times to storm but no significant rain.

Day 2I wanted to go the Bear Mountain look out, but Cup was a little beat after a tough day one, so I decided to skip Bear Mountain and return to the Blue River via Telephone Ridge Trail and Sawmill Trail. Was nice to finally get some data for this area of Primitive Blue Range. It will come in handy when I make my next trek there, hopefully to finally include a little dual state action and a quick cross over into New Mexico. Something I think Blanco and I could have knocked out with about a 55 to 60 mile trip, oh and maybe another day. Day two camp superb, had Cup off trail very early in afternoon, read some, prepped camp, cooled off in creek.

Day 3: A pretty standard hike out, however, did make a slight detour back down to Grant Creek via Paradise Trail #74. I am just trying to accumulate as much info for this area as I can, and I had not did that trail yet. In terms of miles, small detour, however, certainly added some more AEG to hike that I probably did not need and Cup almost certainly did not want. But the trail proved to be great! A real slice of "paradise" in spots, a tad tough to pick up near creek, some dead fall and erosion have really taken their toll on this trail's once much deeper cuts along the steep hillside leading down into Grant Creek. For a good laugh see my GPS Track where I turned around to go get my nice 16 dollar map, then stopped just under two tenths of a mile to return to pack where I was now sure I put it. Nope not in pack went back for map again, found about 100-200 feet further up trail from when I turned around first time. I had set map down to move a log in trail, never picked back up, but certainly not to proud to turn around twice in an attempt to recoup a $16.95 map.

Final Notes: AEG is probably a tad inflated, however, hard to hide from AEG in Primitive Blue Range easy to rack up out there and while it may look high, it is probably not as off as some might think.

Had to do more road walking then what I generaly like, but spirits were brightened by seeing a random white van with no windows driving around remote back roads with a personalized plate reading AMBRLRT, my thoughts exactly! At least he comes about it honestly.

Product Review I brought out my new Big Agnes Fly Creek 2 Platinum. Two thumbs up, was initially worried about durability with dogs, however, had both in tent by second night, no issues. So light and compact, found myself stopping to make sure I packed tent! I was not able to field test it in a good storm, but nice results for steady lighter drizzles.
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Arrived at Lanphier trailhead about 9 AM and found parking lot full of trucks and horse trailers: hunters. Walked down FR 281 (Blue River Road) nearly 2 miles to Sawmill trailhead and began ascent of Bear Mountain about 10 AM. Encountered 2 hunters - opening day of mule deer season, they said. Near top of Telephone Ridge we heard 3 shots, not far away, in span of a few minutes. That was the only gunfire we heard all day. Shortly thereafter a large group of white tail deer crossed the trail ahead of us. Arrived at lookout tower shortly after 1 PM and rested awhile enjoying solitude. Down WS Lake trail to Largo trail. Maples around Maple Spring must have been brillant a week or so ago, now most leaves are on the ground. Still, would have enjoyed hanging out there a bit to do some photos, but a hunter had the spring staked out and was acting territorial. On to Lanphier trail then back to trailhead after 4 PM. An absolutely gorgeous day, and except for the three hunters we saw no other people.
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