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Apr 20 2025
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 Gold Canyon, AZ
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
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Hiking15.44 Miles 3,417 AEG
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I've had this one on my to-do list for a bit, and with the cooler weather this past weekend, it was the perfect time to do it, and S was happy to join me. Pulled into Barnhardt around 8:15 with 3 cars at the TH. Even though it's a good amount of elevation gain over the first few miles, it's gradual and much easier than it looks. Even with a bit of precep Friday night, both falls were not flowing (as expected), and we came across a couple of people who had hiked up just to check out the falls and were surely disappointed. Once past the falls, the vegategan turned to forests of Manzanita with a bit of scrub oak and locust mixed in. For the most part, the trail was pretty clear, however, the Manzanita is starting to creep in and will swipe at you at times. Passed a couple of guys at the Sandy Saddle junction, where the trail looked 'sort of' there at most, not sure the last time someone was on it, but that might be a Manzanita fight most of the way by the looks of it. Made a left at the Divide junction and took a lunch break up on a small saddle above Malapie Spring. Made a quick stop at the Brody Seep junction (or at least that is what the sign says), and there is no evidence of a trail; Mother Nature has reclaimed that one. We started the long, slow climb up to the saddle near Windsor Spring, where we came across 8 NOBO hikers (4 solo, 2 couples). Took a break on top of the ridge and started down Y Bar. I had read some triplogs about the rockiness of it, but the first mile or so was great. Once we started heading down from Cactus Ridge, the rocks came in and kept coming. With all of the rocks and the up-and-down roller coaster of a trail, my whine meter was maxed out with S hearing the brunt of it. :lol: Even though there is some nice scenery on Y Bar, including the only pine forest we came across all day, this trail is 100% one and done for me. My legs and feet did not enjoy any part of it. After what felt like forever, we finally made it back to the truck with a couple of vehicles still in the lot. This was my first time up Barnhardt, and I'm not sure why I waited so long; the scenery was fantastic, and I will need to go back when the falls are flowing. Thanks S for joining me and listening to me whine the last couple of miles. :app:
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A couple of small pools below.

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A couple of small pools below.

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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
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With temperatures climbing in the low desert, it's time to start looking nearby at some hikes at slightly higher elevations. When Jason mentioned his interest in this loop, I recalled that I'd hiked in the area before the Willow fire, with my aged notes indicating that this is a beautiful hike with fantastic views. I wasn't entirely excited about the prospect of the return on the Y Bar trail, nor the elevation gain, but alas, to get views, you usually need to go up!

We headed out to the trailhead, passing several folk camped out at various pullouts along the slightly rutted dirt road once leaving the Beeline. The trailhead had just a few cars in it when we arrived, with one other hiker hitting the trail just before us.

After getting our stuff together and a quick look at the map posted in the parking lot (while also dawdling a little to give the other person some time to get some separation from us on the trail), we headed up the Barnhardt trail. The trail ascends the south side of Barnhardt creek at a moderate grade with some pretty neat views of some interesting geology. Down in the canyon, we heard the unmistakeable sounds of running water and caught glimpses of some good sized pools below...the water is likely being fed from a spring since neither falls along the trail had any significant flow - and actually looked completely dry at first glimpse. While we weren't able to enjoy any waterfalls along the way, the views were still lovely. After passing the falls, the grade flattens out quite a bit and the surrounding vegetation gives way to manzanita as the dominant species. There are areas in this section where the sad ghosts of the ponderosa pines that burned during the willow fire were evident. Eventually, we hit the junction with the Divide Trail, and after consulting the map, we decided a detour to Chilson Spring was not something we wanted to tackle.

Off we went, down the Divide trail, stopping for a lunch break at a small camp spot on a saddle above Malapie Spring. Out in the distance we enjoyed glimpses of horseshoe reservoir before coming to the signed junction for the Brody Seep trail (the path appears to be well obscured under manzanita thickets). The trail eventually contours around to reveal stunning views of Mazatzal Peak - unfortunately this is also where the trail descends as it works its way towards the mountainside before climbing back upwards to a saddle and the Y Bar Trail junction.

I'm not sure if the Y Bar trail was rerouted at some point to contour around fairly high to cross a saddle below Cactus Ridge rather than descending to Y Bar Basin, but I was glad to not lose a bunch of elevation to have to climb again. Once crossing the saddle, the trail enters a section of pine and rocky terrain appears underfoot. Unfortunately, it's not all smooth sailing downhill from here - it's a bit of up and down as the trail winds its way in and out of small drainages in the terrain. While the rocks underfoot sometimes gave way to easier walking, they were pretty much present the entire way back to the parking area. While the trail underfoot wasn't particularly pleasant, we were shaded a good portion of the time, and saw a number of healthy agave, desert spoon / sotol, and a whole lot of strawberry hedgehog - especially beautiful since they are currently in bloom. As nice as it was to enjoy the flowers along the way, I was glad to hit the parking lot at the end of the hike. It was a beautiful day to be outside, and while I'm not particularly interested in doing the Y Bar trail again, I was still glad for the hike and the company.

Other hikers: 6 on Barnhardt (one coming back from going out and back to the Divide intersection, 3 headed to the falls and back, and a pair that we passed at the Sandy Saddle trail junction). 8 on the Divide Trail, all northbound.
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A decent number of blooms, most predominantly wall flower and fernleaf biscitroot. YBar trail has loads of strawberry hedgehogs.

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Aug 12 2023
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking16.03 Miles 3,729 AEG
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Always a fun a loop although not necessarily in August. Still temps were not bad and morning cloud cover helped. Up the Y Bar first and noticed lots of bear scat to the divide but then really none the rest of the way. Great views of Mazatzal Peak ridge on upper Y Bar and then of course on the divide trail.

Took a break at the junction of Y Bar and Divide trail taking in the nice views of the steep side of Mazatzal Peak. Then the up and down traverse over to the Barnhardt Trail. Of course didn't see anyone until the Barnhardt Trail but only a few others enjoying the August heat in the Mazzies!


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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking15.06 Miles 3,185 AEG
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john and i first did this hike in 2011
haven't hiked from barnhardt trailhead in almost five years
road is in good shape
we got going around 0620
nice grind up y bar, leveling out somewhat around 4.25 miles
reached the divide trail, and saw two azt thru hikers and four section backpackers on this short piece
down barnhardt, passing by the lightly flowing falls then taking a short break on a rock bench
enjoyed the views from the divide and the scenery in barnhardt canyon
water flowing in many drainages
still quite a few wildflowers
nice to be back out this way
we had lunch at dj's in fountain hills
thanks for hiking, john
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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
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I haven't hiked out of Barnhardt in quite some time.
We started up the rocky, relentless Y Bar trail to some nice temps. Felt good to finally get to the saddle where things level out then onward to meet the Divide trail. We chatted with a couple AZT thru hikers on our way around Mazzy Peak.
By the time we headed down Barnhardt things were warming up. The first two miles are a bit bland until you start dropping into the canyon where the geology and water liven things up.
Light flow at Big Kahuna, but still a nice stop. The remainder of the hike went by pretty fast. Great scenery and the sound of running water in the creek were enjoyable. Good variety of wildflowers throughout the day.
We saw two collared lizards on the drive out. Lunch in FH. Thanks Kelly.
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First of all I’d like to think the Eagle, Chumly, and 9L for clearing the path for me around the mountain. It’s been a few years since I’ve done this one but I always enjoy it. Everything was going perfect until I hit 11.5 miles. For the next 3 miles it would rain cats and dogs on me. Finally let up in the last half mile. I was completely soaked when I got to the jeep. All in all still a good hike
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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
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Hiking15.94 Miles 2,854 AEG
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I got an invite to join the 2 social misfits on a hike around Mazzy Peak. I met them at the the TH and we headed up everyone's favorite, Y Bar #44. I actually don't mind it as much as most, but to get the views on this one, you'll need to turn around. It's 5.75 miles and a 2300' climb to get to the Divide trail. It's rocky and steep in sections. We passed a couple of guys on mules on their way down. All 3 of us noted the Michelob Ultra Light drink holder attached to the cowboys saddle.

Now up on the Mazzy Divide/AZT we passed 3 different groups of women thru hikers, headed southbound doing the AZT.

I'd forgotten how good the views are on this section of the trail. Views west and the backside of Mazzy Peak.

After a lunch break, we headed down the Barnhardt Trail. With all the rain this monsoon season, this one is starting to get tight in sections again. I still never get tired of this trail. Going down is much nicer because you get to enjoys the views and geology more. The light and clouds enhanced it all.

A good hike with the misfits. Thanks for the invite Chums
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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
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Hiking15.44 Miles 3,397 AEG
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Forecast rain storms favored the southern half of the state, so we opted to head north of town. This one is a solid day with an easy drive and has just enough elevation to tolerate a day in the 80s.

We started up the rickroll rockroll and passed a couple horsemen approaching the saddle. Bruce and I eyed a side trip but opted against it. Upon reaching the divide, those mazzy views dazzled as they always do.

I kept hoping for some of those thunderstorms to bring some cloud cover, but we only got a few shade breaks as we neared barnhardt and the cruiser down. There was barely a trickle of surface water flowing off the mountain in the regular spots, but we took time to rest anyway. Another good trip out there. :)
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Overall impression is that this loop trail is only for the young. Am 75 and long-time hiking partner was 77. As we reached the AZ trail junction from Barnhardt Trail we made the decision to complete the loop non-stop, which is what we usually do. I mean, why enjoy it and camp overnight! This past weekend was relatively cool and nighttime could reach 30 degrees so we pushed on. For taking on a trail at our ages it was more than difficult. I don't care how in shape you are, and we are in pretty good shape for our age, it kicked my pumpkin. I suspect that the trail, with all of the bowling-ball size rocks, especially going down the Y-Bar are there to deter erosion, they are a sprained ankle waiting to happen. Fortunately, we were lucky to avoid this. To deter erosion or not, there needs to be a single track for "seniors." Bottom line, this trail is more then difficult if you try to complete the loop in one day. Took nine grueling hours.
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Joined an Arizona Trail Volunteer Crew on Segment 23 in the Mazzies for 4 days of brushing, tread work, and comraderie. The road to the Barnhardt Trailhead continues to be passable by normal cars, but it is getting more difficult. Barnhardt Trail was beautiful as always. Good water at Hawaiian Mist, Big Kahuna, Chilson Spring, and in the ravine below the trail between Barnhardt and Chilson Spring.

We camped 3 nights at Chilson Camp. Worked two full days on the AZT to the south of the Barnhardt Junction as far as "The Arbor". Looks pretty good now. Always get good thanks from thru-hikers while chopping away at the catclaw and New Mexico Locust.
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Oaks are turning. Most are yellow, but a few are flaming red.
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Hiking17.20 Miles 4,124 AEG
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Went out yesterday for a hike with my mom to do the Mazatzal Peak Loop. It was our first time to the Mazzies, but we are very experienced hikers, so we felt comfortable taking on such a formidable hike. The expected weather for Payson was 85 degrees and sunny. The actually temperature on the hike was 65 when we started at 7:30 AM, and 82 when we finished at 7:00 PM. In between, probably the warmest it got was around 85, due to being at higher elevations than the trailhead during the hottest part of the day.

We started the day awaking at 5:00 AM, knowing we had a long day ahead of us. After gathering a few last minute items, we drove the 1:45 to the trailhead. Two vehicles were in the parking lot when we arrived, and two more arrived around the time we got there. From what I've heard, this is a very sparse crowd, with the parking lot being large enough to accommodate easily 40-50 vehicles.

We did the loop counter-clockwise, meaning we started by going up the Barnhardt trail, then took the Mazatzal Divide trail to the Y Bar trail, and then descended down the Y Bar trail. This turned out to by the ideal direction of travel for multiple reasons. First, this way means the sun is at your back more. This is helpful so you're not looking in the sun in the morning and evening. Also, as a photographer, it means the good light is always in front of you. Second, the Barnhardt trail is a very smooth, gradual trail for the 2,000 ft ascent, while the Y Bar trail is much rockier. Your preferences may be different, but I prefer the loose rocky trail for going down because it makes it very fast (i.e. assume the rocks will slide and you can go further faster). Lastly, it really kept us in suspense, as this was our first time to the Mazzies, and going counter-clockwise you don't even see the summit till 6-7 miles into the hike! :lol:

About 5 miles in, we encountered a prairie rattlesnake very slowly making its way across the trail. We waited a few minutes for it to move on, then continued on our hike. In this same area, we saw a very adorable "Greater Short-Horned Lizard." I had to look that one up...apparently there are about 8 different species of horned lizards in Arizona. Who would've guessed? Generally, the hike presented much more wildlife than other areas of Arizona we've hiked in, especially the Superstition Mountains. We saw a roadrunner, two jackrabbits, abundant lizards of various types, vultures, various other species of birds, and some unusual and interesting-looking insects. There were also an abundance of little flying creatures that loved to fly in your face as you hiked. They were somewhere in size between gnats and flies, didn't buzz, but could fly fast enough to keep up with fast hiking. One guy was flying right by my sunglasses for over 30 minutes continuously! Another interesting note on the fauna side was the large number of anthills observed. I only counted for about 10 minutes, and observed in excess of 30 anthills. The entire hike had many anthills. If I had counted the whole day, there would have been 1000 anthills no doubt. Go ants! :app:

The trails were in great condition, especially the Barnhardt and Mazatzal Divide trails. The Y Bar trail was more rocky, and some parts of it were a little fainter. But there were abundant cairns that were very large in size. By abundant I mean at least every 30 feet, and by very large I mean an average height of 2-3 feet tall. If you have any ability to follow cairns, you'll have no problems on this trail.

The scenery was great, as well as very unusual. We noted that in all our hiking around AZ, we've never seen scenery and vegetation quite like in the Mazatzals. On the subject of flora, we saw around 15 species of wildflowers, but they were generally in small localized areas. For example, there were some blooming hedgehog cactus, but only for a 0.25 mile section of trail.

What else can I say? It was a long hike. The miles just keep accumulating, and somehow you find the energy to go on. We did it with only four breaks, but they were relatively long breaks. One break was at Big Kahuna falls, one at each trail junction, and one most of the way down the Y Bar trail. Our average hiking speed was 2.0 miles per hour, meaning that with breaks, we completed the 17.2 miles in 11 hours. Oh, I almost forgot! According to my pedometer, it was 40,000 steps. A good start to the month of May! :y:
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I'm not good with wildflowers, but we saw all the usual ones like dandelions, lupine, daisies, wild rose, blackberry, the commonly seen orange flowers, and paintbrush. We were pleased to see hedgehog cactus blooming in a few places. The agaves were sending up their shoots, and we saw some blooming yuccas as well.

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Didn't hike the Half Moon trail, but this same creek comes from up-canyon at Big Kahuma Falls, and it was flowing good up there. For several miles along the Barnhardt trail, we could hear all the water running down in the canyon below.

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Difficult to quantify the amount of water, but probably 50+ gallons per minute. I've never been to the waterfall during peak spring runoff, so I have nothing to compare it to. I filtered from a pool 4 feet by 3 feet by 1 foot deep near the base of the waterfall. The water went underground within 50 yards of the falls, but then reappeared and was flowing down the entire canyon towards the trailhead.

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Just a very light trickle across the trail.

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I walked up and down the (dry) creekbed looking for it...all I found was one slightly damp spot (I mean, very slightly).

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I was pleasantly surprised to see this much water at Y Bar spring!
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Apr 05 2020
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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
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I was surprised to run into four people on Y bar trail, but after that I didn't see anybody until I got back on to barnhart. Then it was a bit too much. People like crazy. Even with all the people, just about everybody did a good job with social distancing. Mine has some down trees Y bar wasn't pretty good condition. There was lots of water everywhere.
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Y bar had some downed trees, but nothing major. Tread was in good shape, light in spots. Still easy to follow. Lots of water along the trail. Road to trailhead was passenger car friendly. Lots of people on Barnhardt, very few on y bar and AZT.
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Great day for this loop. The peaks were socked in to start the day, and puffy clouds shaded the mountains all day, with sunshine maybe only 20% of the time. The divide sure grows back fast. It's not bad by any stretch, but growth is impressive. Big trail traffic away from the trailhead with three pairs of backpackers and a day hiker on Barnhardt. The Mazzies north of 87 didn't get much rain from storms this week so surface water was scarce.
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Just a trickle over the falls. Nice clear pools in the bedrock below.

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Muddy. No clean water.

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Some small pools in the bedrock. No flow.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Standing puddles and mud at trail crossing. Didn’t investigate further.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout
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Jan 30 2019
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71 male
 Joined Jan 14 2009
 Kodiak, AK
Barnhardt - Y Bar Basin Loop, AZ 
Barnhardt - Y Bar Basin Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 30 2019
mr_squishyTriplogs 27
Hiking16.20 Miles 3,368 AEG
Hiking16.20 Miles
3,368 ft AEG
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First, I cannot emphasize it enough: do this loop clockwise, starting on the Y Bar trail. I started up the Barnhardt trail at 8 am to hike the loop counterclockwise and saw three deer in the canyon below as I hiked up. Plenty of water flowing over the waterfall. It was a beautiful sunny day and hiking the Barnhardt trail on the backside of Mazatzal Peak was great - flat, open trail with minor ups and downs. I found a dead Northern Pygmy Owl on the trail with no apparent signs of injury - I included a photo in my photoset. Did I happen to mention that it's best to do this loop clockwise? Barnhardt ends at the Mazatzal Divide Trail and I turned left to continue hiking on a good trail. Eventually I arrived at Windsor Saddle, turned left, and began the 5.7 miles of agony that is the Y Bar (aka Share Tree) Trail going down. Bruce Grubbs in Hiking Arizona's Superstition & Mazatzal Country recommends starting the loop hiking up this trail with good reason. It is a very rocky trail with mostly fist size and larger rocks which makes for a very uncomfortable down hike as well as preventing one from looking around as you have to focus on your feet most of the time. I did encounter a lone javelina on the trail, so that's something. Overall a great hike, but probably best done clockwise - did I already mention that?
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May 24 2018
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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 24 2018
JimTriplogs 2,324
Hiking15.00 Miles 3,200 AEG
Hiking15.00 Miles   7 Hrs   45 Mns   2.14 mph
3,200 ft AEG      45 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
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Made the loop, it was nice. Sort of new, but I had already been on most of it. Lots of birds and it was peaceful.
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May 13 2018
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58 male
 Joined Jan 30 2011
 Chandler, AZ
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 13 2018
JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking15.00 Miles 3,200 AEG
Hiking15.00 Miles   4 Hrs   29 Mns   3.37 mph
3,200 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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Perfect conditions out today for this loop. No water seen anywhere. Three white tailed deer spotted on Y-Bar otherwise fairly uneventful.
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Feb 18 2018
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 Joined Mar 18 2015
 Payson, AZ
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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The_NTriplogs 325
Hiking15.68 Miles 3,679 AEG
Hiking15.68 Miles   4 Hrs   50 Mns   3.27 mph
3,679 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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Started at 6:10am, so I headlamped it for 20mins or so. 42° at start. Ditched the jacket after a mile. Cruised on up Barnhardt and checked on the falls. Barely a trickle. The clouds stole the show along the divide. It added to the already excellent views. Passed a couple of backpackers also going down Y Bar, that was it for human contact. Overcast had seized the day, and spared me from the the usual sun exposure on this trail. The TH was full upon my return. I noticed dark skies had taken over and the tops of the peaks, including Mt Ord, were hidden under clouds, as I departed. Enjoyed this loop, as always. Great morning in the Mazzies.

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Barely a trickle
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Feb 04 2018
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 Joined Jan 30 2011
 Chandler, AZ
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking15.00 Miles 3,200 AEG
Hiking15.00 Miles   4 Hrs   32 Mns   3.31 mph
3,200 ft AEG
 
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Light dusting of snow on Barnhardt Trail in patches above 4200 feet. Divide Trail and Y-Bar are in near perfect shape outside of a couple downed trees.

The Big Kahuna has a climbers rope hanging in the waterfall area. I don’t normally trust other people’s ropes but this time I decided to climb up and take a look around. Rope seemed secure. Water on upper perch looked to be about 4 feet deep. Otherwise just a great day in the Mazzies.
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Feb 03 2018
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66 male
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 Mesa,AZ
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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hikerdwTriplogs 541
Hiking14.73 Miles 2,819 AEG
Hiking14.73 Miles   6 Hrs   13 Mns   2.73 mph
2,819 ft AEG      49 Mns Break
 
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Decided to head a little north for cooler temps this weekend. Great loop hike. The last time we were on the Y-Bar Trail was 5 years ago doing this same loop. Some small patches of snow still remain but its melting quickly. Saw no others on the trails until we were within 2 miles of the trail head.
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