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Government Springs Trail - 2 members in 10 triplogs have rated this an average 4.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 16 2025
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 Joined Dec 02 2014
 Mesa, AZ
Government Springs TrailAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 16 2025
adillingTriplogs 402
Hiking4.64 Miles 458 AEG
Hiking4.64 Miles   3 Hrs   10 Mns   1.83 mph
458 ft AEG      38 Mns Break
 
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The lovely Mrs Dilling and I set off for a weekend in the White Mountains. We booked a room at the Edelweiss Resort in Greer and planned a couple of short hikes - this one for Saturday and the Thompson Trail on Sunday.

We arrived to darks skies and light rain. Lynne wisely decided to stay in the truck and watch her downloaded movies while I, ever the one for safety, opted to go hiking up the creek.

I never knew this trail existed until last year. I was prepared for an easy meander along the West Fork Little Colorado River with some nice scenery. I got that, mostly. Except for the muddy trail, thick over-grown sections and rocky bypasses.

The trail more or less follows the creek on the north bank. If I were to follow it all the way, it would have ended at the West Baldy Trailhead. It took me forever to get to the fish dams because I kept going back to the creek to take pictures. The rain was intermittent, but very light.

I made it to the first little dam (not much to write home about) and finally to the 2nd fish dam. This one was really nice. The elevation rises more as you approach, so the creek has many little natural falls. Lot so tree fall in this area as well. I got out my Nikon and tripod and took some long exposure shots and as soon as I finished, the skies opened up. It really started pouring. Luckily, no thunderbolts and lightning, just a hard steady rain. Wrapped everything up and put on the trusty rain poncho and decided to head back to the trailhead rather than push on.

Despite the muddy conditions, I really liked this trail. Packed full of beautiful scenery along a magical stream. I saw 2 other hikers coming back down when I was almost to the 2nd dam. They looked as muddy and soaked as I was.

I got back to the truck and got a "look" from the wife. I guess I looked like someone who just finished a mud-bog race. She would have hated this hike even if it was dry as it had lots of little ups and downs. Still, it was an easy hike and I will definitely be back to hit this one again. All the way to the end next time.
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Sep 07 2024
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 Phoenix, AZ
Government Springs TrailAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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emilystardustTriplogs 792
Hiking7.13 Miles 731 AEG
Hiking7.13 Miles   3 Hrs   57 Mns   1.96 mph
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Sep 10 2023
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 Phoenix, AZ
East Fork loop - L Colorado, AZ 
East Fork loop - L Colorado, AZ
 
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Last little outing before heading back down to PHX... Main goal was to finally check out East Fork trail. Most of the climbing was in the first mile. Took the detour to Amberon Point, which is quite steep. Trail is a bit messy above the point, but it's actually marked, and conveniently reconnects to East Fork trail. Trail condition was better than expected, and it's pretty pleasant for the most part. Couple parts through the meadows are a little grassy, but with GPS it's clear where to go.

The railroad grade section was not my favorite. Map shows the trail crossing the road directly across from Gabaldon, but didn't see any gate here, and proceeded to the FR. Found what I think might be an aspen bolete.

Gabaldon campground was nice and vacant, proceeded up the connector to East Baldy trail, then back down to Crossover.

On Crossover I got distracted by more mushrooms; collected three porcinis. By the time I got to West Baldy Trail, it was pretty cloudy, and I half expected it to rain (it didn't). Opted to take the creek trail down - found it's easiest to cross over to the south side just past the culvert, then cross back over when the creek bends away from Sheeps Crossing Point.

The trail down West Fork is one of the most idyllic places in Arizona.
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Sep 03 2022
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 Joined Mar 11 2002
 Gilbert, AZ
Government Springs TrailAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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VashtiTriplogs 278
Hiking11.15 Miles 1,354 AEG
Hiking11.15 Miles   6 Hrs   38 Mns   1.96 mph
1,354 ft AEG      56 Mns Break
 
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Parked at Sheeps Crossing and headed down to the water. The trail was relatively easy to follow, but rather wet and muddy given all the recent rains. This is a beautiful section of trail very close to the river. Didn't see any people until after the first fish dam waterfall at 2 miles in. The waterfalls are delightful! As is the hike alongside the creek. Past the waterfalls, we started to see more and more people and lots of dogs. The trail was also even more muddy due to heavy traffic. The trail was somewhat rocky between the waterfalls and the Greer trailhead.

From the government Springs TH in Greer, we walked up to the East Fork trailhead and crossed the river which is quite wide at that point. We did manage to rock hop across. The trail then heads up. It is wide and well maintained with lots of signs at junctions. In contrast to 95A which is overrun with people, we saw no one on East Fork. Upon reaching the the top, we jumped one gate as we were unable to open it. The trail continues on flat across the mesa top. When we hit the four wheel drive road, my hiking buddy was pretty much done hiking :(, so we opted to take the 4WD road (as marked on the topo) to shave off some distance as it intersected with the trail later on. There is a game camera strapped to the tree at the Junction of the trail and the 4WD road. We continued on enjoying the solitude and beautiful cool weather. We hit another gate shortly before our intersection back with the east fork trail. We hopped this gate, too, as it was inoperable. We then met with our first set of MANY cows. All the cows are currently on this trail. :(. I don't mind a few cows, but really, the trail from here on out was overrun with them, which was disappointing. :/. On the 4WD road almost back to the trail, We passed a bunch of cows and a mean looking bull, but we walked by without incident. The cows and calves moved out of our way and over towards the bull. I was done walking on the old road, and I was happy to see the trail again. It is nicer on a single track, of course. Sadly, we went a short distance on the trail before coming across a massive amount of cows. About 50 or more. A few too many for me to feel comfortable walking through. :/. They were right in the area where there is a spring. The spring is unnamed on the map, but it is the spring between developed spring and spruce spring. Given the cow infestation, we sadly detoured off the trail again and back to the 4WD road. It was nearly cow free, but every so often, there would be 15 cows or so, in groups. We did see our only people since the government Springs trail head here, 3 mountain bikers on the road. We continued on hoping to jump back on the trail at the next intersection, but it was not to be.

At the next intersection of trail and 4WD, the trail goes down into the meadow. And... Wait for it... Hundreds of cows!! Alas, we decided to not wade through the cattle, and instead continued on the 4WD road towards the Winn Campground. This is not a 4WD road usable to the public, we did pass a gate to keep cars out of the wilderness closer to road to the Winn Campground. Eventually we dumped out on the road (going to Winn CG) and headed out to connect with the railroad trail. The railroad trail was simply a connector between sheeps crossing/95A trail and the east fork trail/97. The railroad trail is very underwhelming. It is mostly right next to the road. One good thing - no more cows, ha!!

Right next to sheeps crossing we cut out two meanders by taking the road back to the car, as my hiking buddy was beyond done at this point. :/

I enjoyed 95A and would do it again despite the mud, rocks, and congestion. East fork I would do again(and stay on the trail the entire time!!) if I could be sure the area wasn't overrun by cattle. The cows really took a lot out of the experience! :(. Oh, well! It is never a bad day when you are out hiking!! The area is beautiful with meadows and forests, and the weather was amazing, if a bit hot on the afternoon (85F!). The railroad connector trail is seriously boring, and I would avoid it in the future!
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Lots of wildflowers still, but starting to wane.
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Jul 21 2022
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 Joined Dec 24 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Government Springs TrailAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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MEWhitemanTriplogs 385
Hiking3.46 Miles 85 AEG
Hiking3.46 Miles   1 Hour   50 Mns   1.89 mph
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Did this as a shuttle hike starting at the Sheep Crossing Point parking area on AZ273 and heading to Greer. I didn't know the name of the trail when I started so had no description or track to follow, however, the trail was well used and there were only a few sections where I had to really pay attention to stay on the trail especially in the middle part of the hike. It was a nice hike along the river usually but not always in the shade. Evidence of the Wallow Fire was on the east side of the river sometimes crossing to the trail side. There were quite a few other hikers especially at the northern end of the hike.
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 Tucson, AZ
White Mountains Tour, AZ 
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andrewpTriplogs 15
Hiking55.74 Miles 6,888 AEG
Hiking55.74 Miles2 Days   8 Hrs   50 Mns   
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I had originally planned a long (5+ day) backpacking trip in the Greer area for early July, but the forest closures ended up cancelling that. In looking for a replacement trip I ended up deciding to do the Tahoe Rim Trail in September. The prep for that trip includes some new gear and new packing discipline along with the physical challenge of the trail itself (180 miles in 11 days). I decided to modify my original plan for the White Mountains and use it as a shakedown for the Tahoe trip.

Day 1 - 17 miles - Greer to West Fork of the Black River
This day started out at the Government Springs trailhead around 7:00am. I was a bit concerned about the condition of the trail as I couldn't find a lot of information on it. I was pleasantly surprised to find a fairly well-traveled trail which looks to be somewhat actively maintained (i.e. deadfall has been cut and cleared). There were some overgrown spots where I was concerned about stepping into something I couldn't see, but aside from from water and mud there weren't any issues.

I continued following the river up to Sheeps Crossing where I got onto the West Baldy trail which I followed to its intersection with the Baldy Crossover trail.

The crossover trail was a nice change after the muddy river walk, but the dry trail only lasted for so long. After the first mile the skies opened up and out came the rain gear. The rain was never hard and it only lasted for 30 minutes or so. A new item on this trip was a rain kilt and as ridiculous as it looks I have to say that it's sooo much better than rain pants.

After the crossover trail ended I headed up the East Baldy trail for a bit. The intention here was to replicate a route posted by @Oregon_Hiker which followed the West Fork of the Black River to connect the East Baldy trail with the Thompson trail. I was able to find the headwaters of the Black River without too much trouble, but the condition of the canyon had changed significantly since he posted his triplog last year.

From his photos I expected a reasonably straightforward trek through a sparsely forested canyon. What I encountered was an overgrown mess which made it very difficult to find footing. On top of that there was an incredible amount of deadfall which looked like some jumbo-sized game of pickup sticks. I tried following the canyon a bit above the river and had better luck but it was still slow going. I eventually found the reservation boundary fence but it was in every orientation but vertical and mostly pinned down under massive deadfall. This was very different from last year's photos and description.

Then the thunder and lightning started.
Then it started raining again.
Then it started hailing.

After the storm I started moving again only to be slowed down by even more rain then stopped by more impressive thunder and even bigger hail. This trip was quickly running the risk of transitioning from type 2 to type 3 fun.

While waiting out the storm I decided to abandon the river walk and cut over to FR402D. Once the storm stopped I made my way over to the road and followed it to the point where it diverged from the stream. From there I stuck with the stream and made my way through the meadow to FR116 which I followed to the Thompson trail.

The Thompson trail was beautiful and similar in overall theme to the Government Springs trail at the beginning of the day. There were a lot of marshy sections and a lot of mud. While I had hoped to keep my feet from getting any wetter that just wasn't in the cards.

My intent was to camp near the intersection of the Thompson and West Fork trails, but when I got there I couldn't find a good spot. As the clouds in the sky were getting more ominous looking I decided to backtrack to a site I saw about 0.5 miles prior.

The weather was quickly turning and once I got to the site I raced to get my tent setup. This was comical as it was a new tent and although I had set it up in my yard a few times I had never done so in the wild under duress of an impending storm. Somehow I managed to get the tent pitched, my gear sheltered, and myself into the tent before the skies opened up again. This time it rained hard for over an hour. Fortunately my new tent kept me and my stuff dry.

After the rain stopped I got my stuff better organized, had some dinner, and hit the sack. As I fell asleep a thunderstorm raged several miles to the west. Two hours later and every two hours after that I was awakened by my air mattress having deflated enough to put some part of my body in contact with the ground.

Day 2 - 18 miles - West Fork of the Black River to East Baldy Overlook
I awoke to 46 degrees and 100% humidity. It was actually a very nice morning if it weren't for all of the condensation all over everything. Fortunately, I stayed dry overnight and by some sort of miracle (and a well-designed tent) didn't end up with any moisture on my quilt.

After taking care of my morning routine and packing up a very wet tent (inside and out) I headed back down the Thompson trail to the West Fork trail. I crossed the river and headed up the canyon wall to the plateau above. Everything was wet and muddy. Not just muddy, but suck the shoe off your foot muddy. I don't have much to say about the West Fork trail as it was pretty unremarkable. I'm sure it was much more interesting before the fire, but now it's just a lot of exposure.

From the West Fork trail I took FR68 north to FR249C which roughly parallels the canyon edge. Not much to report from these roads other than the fact that they were rutted and muddy messes in places. Lots of sun exposure and slow going in spots. I had planned a stop a Deadman Spring to get some water and dry my tent, but upon arrival I found a pond with what appeared to be a pretty healthy bloom of blue green algae. Not wanting to test my theory I backtracked a bit to a flowing spring I had passed by earlier and took my break there. In retrospect perhaps Deadman Spring had that name for a reason :)

After my break I continued my walk through the mud bog that was FR249C. Eventually I made it to FR249E, the FR116, then 402 then 8037 which I followed over Burro Mountain to AZ273. This section featured some great views from Burro Mountain, but was otherwise a long and tough slog. The sun was blazing and having learned my lesson descending the Rincons in May I was carrying a sun umbrella which I attached to my pack for some portable shade. This turned out to be a lifesaver as there's nothing worse than broiling your brain in the sun.

After cutting through the Gabaldon campsite I got onto the East Baldy trail and started making my way up the hill. Knowing that I would have a dry camp I grabbed water at the last possible spot before the trail started ascending. The Easy Baldy trail is beautiful and although I was tired I was loving the scenery.

I made it to the overlook about midway up the trail and found a perfect spot to pitch my tent between a couple of boulders. Took in the views, made some dinner, and hit the sack early. As I didn't have time to track down the leak in my mattress I went through the same cycle of interrupted sleep.

Day 3 - 20 miles - East Baldy overlook back to Greer
I woke up early and had just enough time to make some coffee before the sun came up. Enjoyed the display and then got on with my day.

The remainder of the East Baldy trail was beautiful and in retrospect one of my favorite parts of the trip. There was some deadfall to deal with, but nothing too bad. I stopped at the spring near the plane wreck to camel up and continued on. The area around the wreck was completely overgrown with ferns and cornlilly to the point that the tail section was barely visible.

Made it to the junction with the West Baldy trail and took a side trip up to the accessible summit. The views were great, but there was some haze in the air which limited visibility.

From the summit I started down and once I got to the shallower grade in the last 4 - 5 miles I hauled a** to the trailhead. I was feeling great and making great time so, stupid me, thought that the last 7 miles would be a fast walk back into town. I should have known better as the West Fork trail was a nightmare.

Once I found the West Fork trail I was treated to 4 miles of rutted and muddy terrain with nearly zero redeeming qualities. I'm guessing that without the mud it would have been more enjoyable, but in its current state I was really regretting my decision to take this trail. Fortunately the last 2 miles were through a beautifully forested area which almost made up for the prior pain.

Once at the trailhead I was ready for my day to be over, but I still had a 1.75 mile road walk through Greer to get to my truck. What energy I had left was sapped out of me by that walk. Unfortunately, it was a Sunday afternoon and the restaurants I passed were all either closed or not serving. I had been looking forward to a celebratory piece of pie, but that wasn't meant to be.
While quite different than my original plan of a leisurely stroll through the area I think that the fast approach that I took was more appropriate. The overall area is beautiful, but the beauty is punctuated by burned areas and, in the case of this trip, a lot of mud. I imagine that I would have gotten rather bored and frustrated if I had spread it out over any more days. In the future I may make another trip to focus more on the Mount Baldy Wilderness and unburned sections of Burro Mountain but I think I've had my fill of the area SW of Big Lake.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Buckshot Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
This may have been the highlight of my day. Clean and clear flow out of the pipe.

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Hard to tell actual flow, but there was a lot of water in the pool. Film of what was likely and algae bloom on top so gathered drinking water from the spring a 1/2 mile south on the road.

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Jun 20 2021
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West Fork loop, AZ 
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Run/Jog13.46 Miles 1,186 AEG
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20 years or so ago I hiked down from Sheeps Crossing to Greer via the West Fork of the Little Colorado. Lately I had been wondering if there is still a trail down the creek, so decided to check it out. Started at West Baldy TH, and started by hiking up West Baldy to the creek. From there, headed via trail down to Sheeps Crossing.

At that point, there's not much of a continuous path downstream; after the road bridge we crossed to the south side and found what appears to be an old day use area with a picnic table. There's a faint path on the south side until where the trail drops down from Sheeps Crossing Overlook, where we crossed back over. Stuck to the north side the rest of the way.

Happy to report there's still a good path most of the way, although there are a couple of jumbly spots. Frequent seeps, lots of butterflies, generally just an enjoyable trek, despite some areas of fairly severe burn (mostly on the south side of the canyon). Got to Greer before we knew it. Jogged down the walking path to the coffee stand, where we indulged in mid-run frappes (although I didn't think about the fact that I'd be carrying an empty cup in my hand most of the way back).

Headed up West Fork trail (so named because it doesn't touch the West Fork), flowing creek up to the pond. Once at the top it was just nice easy jogging. Stopped for a drink at the spring, which tasted as good as any spring water around. The rest of the way was pleasant but uneventful, outside of seeing a few elk in the aspen forest.

Solid loop. Hard to decide whether it's better with a mid-run break in Greer, or starting/finishing there.

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Good tasty water flowing from the pipe.

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Water in the tank and flowing down the creek.
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May 26 2021
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Government Springs Trail, AZ 
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Government Springs Trail, AZ 
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Quick hike out to have a picnic lunch.
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West Fork Little Colorado River, AZ 
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Wandered upstream from the end of 373 for about a mile and then turned around. Very nice.
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