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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25 - 23 members in 111 triplogs have rated this an average 3.1 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Oak Spring Trail #16Payson, AZ
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A group of us finished the brushing that was started 2 weeks ago on AZT #25 about a mile west from the Two Ravens junction.
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A group of us made improvements at Oak Spring to increase the flow into the spring box. Also cleared one huge deadfall.
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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25Payson, AZ
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
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Kelly and John needed help with a shuttle for their backpacking trip on AZT #25. They started from the Doll Baby Trailhead on Friday, while I started from the Pine Trailhead on Saturday. It was a bit brisk, with ice in some of the drainages, but I took off my puffer and hat after a couple of hours.

There was still some color holding on around the Oak Spring area.

I finally ran into Kelly and John where the old AZT alignment meets the new one. After a snack break, we headed toward the Pine Trailhead. We checked out Oak Spring, where there was filterable water and some lingering maple color, before tackling the last big climb of the day.

Afterward, we had lunch at Kelly and John's favorite eatery, then drove back to retrieve John's vehicle at Doll Baby.
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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25Payson, AZ
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john and i decided on a one night backpack for this azt passage
we set out from doll baby trailhead around 0815 friday morning
temps were in the upper twenties, but it didn't feel that cold
took the road portion to jf ranch and waded across the east verde
filtered water at whiterock spring/tank
had to carry four liters for a few miles
rock creek canyon is about halfway, and we wanted to get beyond that point
found notes on a good campsite a couple miles further uphill on far out
14 mile first day, rolling into a very nice campsite
we set up camp, made dinner and enjoyed a small fire
long night this time of year, and it got down to 35 degrees or so
coffee and breakfast saturday morning before setting out around 0810
warmer today, very comfortable hiking temps
lighter packs after the dry camp with a shorter hike out
met bruce with six to go and the remaining miles went by quickly
lunch at thai station and bruce took us back to doll baby

big shout out to bruce for helping us with logistics
nice to get another passage done
saw some javelina along the way
saw six thru-hikers, three friday night and three saturday morning, all sobo
trail was mostly in good shape
it's very rocky in places and there was one section of catclaw
lots of juniper trees and some more open areas
one pocket of maples near oak spring
a finishing climb into pine trees at the end
fun to do this as a backpack - it's been awhile
good times
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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25Payson, AZ
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It has been too long since Kelly and I have knocked out an AZT segment. Decided to backpack this one starting from the Doll Baby trailhead. The connecter trail to get to the AZT is a bit under four miles.
We got going to frosty 26 degree temps. There is some aeg on the way and that got us warmed up. Soon after joining the AZT, we crossed the Verde river which was cold and clear.
Coming out of the river is a long uphill trek. Kelly flushed a huge javelina but he didn't stick around for photos.
After a nice long cool day of hiking we made camp a little over halfway, in the afternoon, with plenty of time to set up camp and eat before dark. A small fire kept us warm after dark for a couple hours before we retired for the long night.
Following breakfast and breaking down camp we hit the trail at 0811. Bruce coordinated a meet up to hike with us the last 6 miles. Things worked out nicely and we had a good hike to finish off the segment.
Kelly bought us lunch in Payson then Bruce shuttled us back to the Doll Baby trailhead and my vehicle.
Great trip. Thanks, you two! :)
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Hardscrabble Mesa Loop, AZ 
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I originally was going to hike in See Canyon to see some fall foliage, but after seeing a triplog from @tortoise_hiker that indicated that there was no colorful foliage there I decided to do this hike instead.

We did a clockwise loop from a parking area on Hardscrabble Road, with a side trip on Alder Ridge.

The highlight of the hike was the first mile or so that went through a wooded area on the way to Oak Spring. There were some big tooth maples there, and the fall foliage was light to moderate. It wasn't spectacular by any means, but it was still decent. Some of the larger trees still had green leaves, so there might be some color there yet to come.

We stopped off at Oak Spring, and there was only a couple of small pools of stagnant water there.

Then the trail climbed up on Hardscrabble Mesa. It wasn't that steep of a climb but the trail was a bit rocky.

We went a mile or so out onto Alder Ridge, and that was a section of the hike that I really didn't care for. The trail was a bit rocky and there was lots of sun exposure on a warm day. The distant views of the Mazzies were nice, but nothing special.

After getting back from Alder Ridge we continued on the loop mostly on rocky forest roads. Once back on FR 428 we coasted back to where we parked. This section was almost all downhill and it was easy hiking, although there were a few vehicles on the road.

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I didn't enjoy this hike as much as I thought that I would, partly because the temps were warmer than they should have been. I had previously hiked from the Pine TH to Hardscrabble Road and back, and I enjoyed that hike more than this one.
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Foliage was light to moderate for about 1.5 miles from the parking area on Hardscrabble Road headed toward Oak Spring.

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The spring box was dry but there were a couple of small stagnant pools of water.

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New (to us) AZT #25, AZ 
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For day two of our Pine adventures we decided to check out the new-to-us re-route of Arizona Trail #25, but we weren't about to do the long slog from Pine (TH there is still closed), nor did we want approach from the Walnut Spring Trail, so it would take a bit of creative planning. So how about a drive from Hardscrabble Road then South along FR 1655 to the power line track of the 'old' AZT #25 route?

Sounds good, until memory fails, a wrong turn, thinking FR 428 was 1655 by not looking close enough at the GPS track, a chore in itself once on the so-called Forest Roads which had devolved into hardened-mud boulder & rubble tracks. Eventually we made it to the power lines, albeit a half-mile from where I expected to meet them. After taking forever to drive the previous mile, nope, not driving another half-mile, we'll just start our hike here.

Now for the decision. The route I had drawn on Route Editor followed what appeared to be an old road, which I had planned on driving all the way to the #25 re-route. So, do we:
#1. Follow the power lines to my drawn route and down... or
#2. Hike a straight line from our 'trailhead' directly to where I planned to meet the new AZT #25 route, which meant crossing a couple drainages of unknown depth & vegetation quantity.
At 2.5 miles for #1 and 1.5 for #2, it was an easy choice... straight line, or close to it.

By making that choice we would make our acquaintance with Taylor Tank along the way. From there, while there was an opening in the very sturdy barbed-wire fence, we had to decide, which side of the fence should we be on for our cross-country trek? Thankfully we chose wisely ("when in doubt, go right") and although very close a few times, were able to skirt both drainages and connect with the AZT without having to cross the fence.

Ok, finally we're at the 'new' AZT #25. Wow! Although I had never been on the old #25 near here and Tracey had, we both remarked how nice a job was done... it was obvious a LOT of effort was put into the re-route. Tracey had HATED the old route up to Twin Buttes so this was a breeze.

Not long after we began our Southbound sojourn, we met a guy taking a snack/rest-break along the trail. We chatted enough to find out he had hiked in from Doll Baby and was going just as far as Pine then later a skip up a half-dozen passages before hitting the trail again. He mentioned something about good thing I followed the AZT sign (where the 'new' route turned right, rather than straight up to Twin Buttes) as his "AllTrails" app route said to continue straight ahead.

Upon hearing that, Tracey and I both rolled-our eyes, then quickly proceeded to clue him in about Far Out as the hot ticket while hiking the AZT. Who knows if he'll take our advice.
(Side note: After the hike I recommended an edit on AllTrails to let them know their route was well out-of-date. Crazy enough, not expecting any timely update, within a day the route had been updated.)

The descent was relatively gentle with plenty of switch-backs (the guy we met felt some were overkill, like we encountered the Bearfoot Trail) so we didn't anticipate any issues on the return ascent. But at some point it was time to set-a-spell for lunch then head back up.

The ascent was more-or-less a breeze and we were soon back where we had connected #25 earlier. This time we chose to follow the 'road' back out to the power lines, following them back to the car.

We met a number of curious bovines near another tank along the way and wrapped up the hike shortly after. Now it's just the bumpy ride back out to Hardscrabble Road.

On deck for day three... Bob Bear/Fossil Creek, which I only hiked once, some ~17 years ago.
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Took the store-bought knee out for a spin to do a little Steward Monitoring and Maintenance between Pine and Oak Spring. This six-mile foray was the longest yet, following some other trail work events closer in. All went extremely well for eight weeks post installation.

We accessed the trail from Cletus-Ray, a street in the extreme southwest area of Pine. The trail there follows an ancient roadbed to a short single-track route through tall pines to the AZT. The first task was to close a short section of trail that was replaced a year or so ago by a more gentle and scenic section. Somehow this reroute hasn’t made it into the official app. Then on to a hiker-reported, larger than expected deadfall which we dispatched with considerable sawing and pry-bar action. It’s high through-hiker season and we met five of them, all intent on real food and maybe a zero day in Pine. Some stop to chat, others seem to be zoned out and just pass by with hardly a nod.

We continued to Oak Spring for a snack break. The pipe to the trough has lost its siphon and we spent time trying-unsuccessfully-to reestablish it. It will take more tools or smarts than we had with us. But water is flowing nearby, and the trough is three-quarters full from maybe groundwater. Then back to the truck; the knee did well, the heart and lungs after nearly a year of much-reduced activity and the background TMB syndrome, not so much. But it’s great to be out and about again.

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Pipe to trough not running but water flowing next to the trough.
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Three-day backpack North to South on re-route from Pine TH to Doll Baby TH via connector trail to maximize downhill (4240 descent). Camped at Oak Spring and dry camp along with the grazing cows.
 
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Seven of us completed the reroute above Oak Spring.
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Another day working on the reroute above Oak Spring. Good sized group of 9 continued with benching and tread work. Great weather.
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There is a reroute just above Oak Spring to take the trail off a steep eroded slope and build 800 feet of new trail with great views to the south and west (including The Mazatzals!). Five of us began the work by clearing a 10 to 12-foot-wide corridor of thick brush and tree limbs.
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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25Payson, AZ
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Hiking26.15 Miles 4,011 AEG
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Mom and I wanted to continue our hiking of the AZT through the Mazatzal wilderness since the weather and water sources are amazing this fall. This time we loaded up my mountain bike and I dropped off my mom at the Pine TH. I then drove to Doll Baby Ranch TH and rode my bike on the Crackerjack Mine Road up to Highway 87, then up to the Pine TH. Total biking time was about three hours, and the road was pretty rough, such that I had to HAB (hike a bike) a couple miles of it. The final 300 foot descent on the pavement to the Pine TH made the whole thing worth it, though! :lol:

Due to the bike shuttle, we got started with the hike around 1 PM. This meant we had to hike fast to make some progress. With a stop for water at oak spring, we made it to East Tank to camp for the night. The sunset was beautiful and the stars were amazing! I've never seen such amazing stars with a full 360 degree view. There were even some shooting stars--not sure which meteor shower was going on.

In the morning, we decided we should try to make it all the way to the East Verde River, due to an event we were planning to attend in Phoenix Friday evening. So we awoke at 6, were out of camp by 7, and hiked generally without stopping for 4 miles. After a brief break in Rock Creek (dry up here), we continued another 4 miles to Whiterock Spring. This section of the trail was great, with a gradual downhill grade across the mesa. The miles piled up quick, though, and before we knew it, we were at Whiterock Spring. It was a nice area, with a huge juniper that made for a nice well-deserved break. After some more hours on the trail, we made it to Polk Spring, where we were impressed by the amount of water. Finally, after 15.33 miles, we made it to camp! The East Verde River is gorgeous and definitely worth a stop for the night.

Next morning, we awoke by 5:30, picked up camp in a hurry, and got out to our car by 8:30. After fetching the bike from Pine TH, we decided we had enough time to do another hike on the Mogollon Rim...but that's a different triplog. :lol:
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Certain drainages with water had trees with fall color, but it was rare.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max East Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
Not the most pleasant water; we camped near here but didn't use the water.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Oak Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
The spring box was full, and our filtering 8 liters drained it faster than it could refill.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Polk Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Hundreds of gallons per minute? I'd call this spring more like a medium flow creek that just comes pouring out of the ground!

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Rock Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Rock creek was dry at the crossing along the AZT many miles upstream. Down here where the waypoint is, at the East Verde River, it consists mostly of Polk Spring and is medium flow going into the East Verde River. Nice and cold, and very good taste!

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Whiterock Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Plenty of water here. The spring box was full and had some green algae, but the water was very clear.
 
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As part of AZT in a Day 2021, I hiked the Saddle Ridge section, the now decommissioned section of the AZT down to Segment 25, and then on down 6 miles of the AZT #25 to the East Verde River. I camped at Polk Spring, which is a pretty nice spot. The next day I reversed my trek.

At many places along the route, the grass and flowers had overtaken the trail, even hiding the cairns, I had to pay attention to make sure I did not get off track. All in all, this is a pretty segment, with good views of the Mazatzals much of the way.

The road directions to the Twin Buttes TH (linked) were helpful. Beware there may be a huge puddle in the road, of uncertain depth, just where it leaves Strawberry. I was glad I had my Cherokee.
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The top part of the trail was overwhelmed with fields of Goldeneye, Heliomeris Longfolia var annua. I also saw a smattering of Mexican Creeping Zinnia (Sanvitalia Procumbens), Tansyleaf tansyaster (Machaeranthera tanacetifolia), and white prickly poppy.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Polk Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
The water pours out of the ground and feeds a cute little stream alongside the campsite.

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Totally dry. Saw some very disappointed cows and horses here hoping for water.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Rock Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Good flow where it empties into East Verde River.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Whiterock Spring Dripping Dripping
Tank was completely full. Some algae in the bottom, but clear on top.
 
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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25Payson, AZ
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Slacking on hike logs lately.. This was a beat the heat hike among the pines and junipers. Quick stroll over to Oak Spring and back from Pine TH.
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A good day with the segment steward cutting a hole in a deadfall, and cutting brush on the switchbacks above Oak Spring. We were out there with a power brush cutter a few times this winter/spring, but today was with loppers and a hand saw. We'll need one more day to finish it but that may have to wait until fall; things were getting a bit toasty on the SW exposure.
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AZT25 Alder Ridge reroute, AZ 
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Went to check out the new AZT25 re-route section, out-and-back from the Pine trailhead. The new trail is EXCELLECT - ugly, boring, super-rocky has been replaced with scenic, interesting, much-less-rocky. Standing O to all those who made this massive project happen : app :. The AZT website says the re-route is 6.7 miles but my GPS has it about 7.9 miles.

Water: The trail crossing at Rock Creek was dry but immediately upstream trickles and small pools appear, and about 100 yards upstream of the crossing is a deep, clear pool in a beautiful shaded oasis, with additional pools further upstream. I would guess that after a normal wet winter there would be flowing water here in the spring. Reliable Oak Spring also had clear water.

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clear full trough, steady trickle inflow
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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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SredfieldTriplogs 467
Hiking6.40 Miles
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A quick little trip out on the soon-to-be-old section of AZT Passage 25 to remove AZT signs. We thought of driving it but were glad we didn't because of a few spots that would have been a bit much even for the reliable 4Runner. Hiking this section of ugly road walk really makes one appreciate the new route that remains single-track through the Mazatzal Wilderness. But only those who hike both will ever realize the improvement--maybe the AZT should include a loop around both routes to showcase the greatly improved experience.

We were passed by an ATV about 3/4 mile from the end as we were carrying the old signposts and a plastic barrel cover. The hint that we were carrying and they were riding was a bit too subtle so we carried them out to the end.

Another fine day on the AZT.
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Very isolated, if any at all.
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The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see.
 
Mar 25 2021
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Saddle Ridge Trail #14Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Hiking6.00 Miles 920 AEG
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Three of us set off south on Saddle Ridge trail from just north of the wilderness boundary and hiked in just under 3 miles to where the reroute at the AZT leaves the current route and heads down to Rock Creek and up Alder Ridge. We installed a new sign at the future junction. The new trail should be open in the next couple of weeks or so.
Just as we were finishing and having a lunch break the youth crew arrived and set off down to Rock Creek where they planned to camp and finish the next part of the new trail. Thank you!
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