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Deer Creek Trail #45 - 43 members in 149 triplogs have rated this an average 3.4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Deer Creek Trail #45Payson, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,479
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It’s kind of funny how expectations can influence one’s opinion of a hike. Chris had invited me on a Deer Creek loop (including FS 201 and Gold Ridge). From everything that I had read and the few people I had talked to the consensus was that Deer Creek was a :pk: and that the Gold Ridge was a :DANCE: .

We started from the Deer Creek TH around 6am. It was dark out, but daybreak wasn’t far off. Didn’t see too much early on because of the darkness though by the time we were hiking down into the Deer Creek valley we could start to see the terrain around us. Stopped briefly at the Gowan gravesite. It’s hard to miss. It’s fenced and adjacent to the trail. The headstone looks to be relatively new or well maintained. As others have said, the trail is very nice up to the Mazatals Wilderness sign and starts to degrade as you continue. The first few crossings weren’t bad and the trail was fairly obvious. The deeper we went the more you relied on the cairns and the more the trail became overgrown. However, a long as we were out of the creek bed there always seemed to be a trail to follow, no matter how faint or narrow. We were probably in the creek bed (or very close to it) until 6 miles in when the trail climbed steeply on the north side of the creek. This was kind of a win-lose stretch. The trail was obvious with minimal plant encroachment, but it was narrow with, at times, a steep drop. It was a nice, but brief respite. Within a quarter mile (or close to that) we were back at creek crossings. However, the trail did tend to venture away from the creek more frequently gaining some elevation (above the creek) always to return. And these “ventures” from the creek almost always involved pushing your way through some form of brush. That being said, you could still see the trail as you were doing it. Around 8.5 miles we came to a very nice flat, pine tree oasis. A perfect place for a campsite. In this area there was another Mazatals Wilderness sign. Soon after that we starts our climb out of the valley. The trail was very easy to follow at this point. Gradual at first, but steeper as we went.

We rested at the Mt Peeley TH for a bit and Chris recharged with some Jimmie John subs. Noticed at the info board that there was still a missing person sign for gpsjoe, basically asking hikers to be on the lookout for gear that gpsjoe had on him. It’s been 16yrs so the likelihood isn’t great. After the break we hiked FS 201 to the Gold Ridge Trail. Views were very nice and the clouds offered some nice shadows on the landscape. Always looking for new trails, I was looking anxiously for the Gowan and South Fork Trails. Never saw any signage or indication of a trail for Gowan (on Deer Creek or the road), but did see the sign and what looked to be a decent track for the South Fork. Chris told me not to be mislead and that it wasn’t worth the effort. :-k

The Gold Ridge was kind of a surprise for me. I hadn’t done any research on this trail but everyone was saying what a great trail this was……in comparison to the Deer Creek. I’m not sure what I expected, but it wasn’t what I got. It was a very easy trail to follow and offered some great distant views and the upper half was nicely laid out. However, the midsection was an unimaginative, manzanita lined hill-a-thon. Reminiscent (to me) of some of the more unappealing ATV tracks that are part of the Prescott trail system. There were a couple of hills that were very steep. No fun going down or up I imagine. It was very gratifying passing through the only gate for this trail and hitting some flatter ground and knowing that the end was nearby.

It’s funny how the hype of something can color your view. I ended up enjoying Deer Creek more than the Gold Ridge because in my mind the Gold Ridge was going to be so much better than Deer Creek. More obvious, yes. Easier, maybe. But more interesting, more enjoyable, nope. And I imagine, this opinion has been influenced by what I was thinking going in. So in my opinion, this was a great trail and a nice loop. I did try to improve the Deer Creek Trail a little. I had my clippers with me so I was clipping as I went. A minimal improvement at best. Surprisingly, no wildlife to be seen. We did encounter three hikers at the Mt Peeley TH as they were finishing up a section of the AZ Trail and then two more hikers on FS 201, but didn’t see anyone on Deer Creek or Gold Ridge.
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Deer Creek Trail #45Payson, AZ
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I would say this would be a one and done for this trail, but it was third time every trying to hike it all. this time I got it all done. We returned on the Gold Ridge Trail. I would say the same thing for that trail, but it was also the third time I've done that trail, and I think I'm done with both of them. The views are great, but it's a lot of work. this loop was especially a long day.

The first 5 miles of Deer Creek are nice. At the 4 mile mark, the trail starts to climb in and out of the creek, giving nice views as the canyon walls narrow. At mile 5 the vegetation gets more overgrown than I remember 10 years earlier when I last tried this. It stays that way up until the 8 mile mark. There's about a mile of decent trail, then a brutal steep climb up to the Peeley TH.

After mile 6, there are fewer creek crossings, but even up above the creek the bushes are in the trail and there are several tree fall crossings. Above the creek the trail was very narrow in spots and very dicey as the footing was loose from rain the day before. Lots of washouts that were a bit dangerous to step over as it was a pretty steep fall if the ground let go. And with thefrom rain the night before, we were pretty soaked by mile 6 with all the overgrowth brushing on us.

At the 1 mile mark, my camera battery died. I started taking pictures with my camera, but with all the water and how hard the hike up Deer Creek was, I wasn't in the mood for much picture taking. And all the water on the lens didn't help either. And my phone doesn't like when I try to run the camera and Route Scout at the same time, so both apps tended to crash. So not many pictures.

Took a quick lunch break at the Peeley TH, talked to a group of AZT day hikers who just finished. they did the more sane thing and only did a 10 mile hike and were done for the day. We still had to hike another 700' vertical on FR201 and down Gold Ridge. I was overheated from the brutal climb up out of Deer Creek, but 10 min later I was nearly shivering from not moving in the cold weather. Between the bushwhack and the climb at the end, the overall feeling of hiking all of Deer Creek is summed up in one word: brutal.

Gold Ridge is nice for the first 2.5 miles downhill, then the steep parts hit. I remember this being a little difficult to hike on the way back when we hiked up this trail. This time after hiking up Deer Creek and being on our 14th mile for the day, it was again very brutal on the way down. The joints were sore, but no injuries. Mostly muscle pain in the quads, which dogged me the rest of the day until I was able to treat that with a few glasses of non-aspirin pain reliever once I got home. :) The nice scenery along Gold Ridge helped offset the pain. Kind of.

Surprised to get home in less than an hour after I finished. Glad to get this one all done at last.
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Deer Creek Trail #45Payson, AZ
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With a bit of a time crunch, S and I continued our new-to-us area tour, pulling into the Deer Creek TH parking lot just after 8, with a couple of trucks already there and a guy putting on a suit :-k. With this being an 'easier' hike, I decided not to wear my ankle brace (which turned out to be a stupid decision). Nice easy hike moving past the GR and SF junctions before turning into Deer Creek, where I lost focus for just a split second, rolling my left ankle, the same recovering ankle I should have had a brace on ](*,). Fortunately, it was just a mild averted sprain, but it would be a PIA the entire day.

Deer Creek Trail
Nice, easy, wide trail to start as it moves up on the left side bench with a few mini ups and downs. We made a quick stop at the old windmill site and the David Gowan grave, where S and I both commented on how surprised we were by the trail conditions after reading previous triplogs. As we neared the wilderness boundary, the scrub oak intensified and started encroaching onto the trail. Once past the boundary, it deteriorated even more, not to the point of not being able to find the trail, but to the point of scrub oak thrashing your legs time and time again. After going through great parts of trail and not so great parts off and on, we came to a creek crossing and decided this would be our stopping point based on my time crunch. S spotted a small field of poppies up on a ridge and climbed up to photograph them while I relaxed by the creek. Uneventful hike back out, however, the hiking was on the slower side with my ankle giving me fits. Near the TH we got a low pass flyover by a couple F-35’s which is also awesome to see, couldn’t get my phone out quick enough for any video.

Wildlife - a hare, a single cow, and a beautiful cardinal was it for the day, with no sighting of any two-legged wildlife either; the last hike I encountered any humans was back on December 27th. : app : Water was plentiful, flowing nearly the entire way except for the bottom section. I would love to come back to hike this trail in the fall when the colors are plentiful.
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Needed an easier day due to prior commitments necessitating being back in town in the late afternoon, so we opted to hit up Deer Creek and see if we could benchmark against prior trip reports with regards to the amount of brush and specifically poison ivy that might abound.

We arrived at the trailhead to warmer temperatures than our more recent hikes, and a number of vehicles already in the lot. The trail headed out of the parking area and up onto a low hill to head cross country past the Gold Ridge and South Fork junctions before it drops down into the Deer Creek drainage, where it tended to stay on the southern side of the watercourse, well away from the creek bottom.

We stopped at the old windmill site, discovering the windmill long gone, and a motorized pump installed with a bucket crammed over top for protection. The trough seems to also have been long abandoned, the tubing coming from the pump seems to terminate on dirt near the trough. After poking around a bit, we continued on, stopping briefly at David Gowan's grave site.

As we progressed, there was a little bit of brush encroaching along the trail (thankfully not catclaw)... though it picked up considerably once we passed the boundary marker. While the trail was evident, it often headed into thickets of scrub oak. Not long after crossing the wilderness boundary, the trail drops into the bottom of the drainage, crossing every now and again. After a few crossings, with the trail becoming more overgrown and less apparent, and our time crunch, we decided to stop for a break and head back after I climbed up the hillside to check out several groups of poppies. I can only assume that the trail from this point onwards is what is mentioned in other triplogs, with the path becoming more faint and overgrown, and likely infested with ivy. With most plants not leafed back out yet, it's hard to say how many of the sticks we saw were dormant ivy plants...though I'm glad to say I don't seem to have developed any sort of a reactive rash.

The hike back was uneventful, with the hike concluding with a low flyover of a couple military jets. Unfortunately, I wasn't fast enough to get my phone out to capture any video. Will have to come back out again and have another look at Deer Creek when we have a bit more time to explore and see how far we get past our turn around point.

Wildlife: one cow, a bunch of butterflies, a variety of birds heard, and a cardinal sighted - but it flew off before we managed to get any photos of it.
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Poppies are starting to put on a show...even though in my mind, it seems much too early for that! There are also a fair number of desert anemone along the way.

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Dry at the junction, but flowing lightly as you move up canyon.

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Planned to do Barnhardt again, but the road was too muddy for my chevy volt to make it. In retrospect, I did make it ~3.5 miles in, and could have easily just found a spot to pull off and hike the last two miles or so, but that didn't occur to me at the time, for whatever reason.

The road in to the deer creek TH is really just the turn off, definitely a safer bet for someone with my type of vehicle. Road noise was intermittent but eventually started to fade. Since I didn't have solid plans, only hiked a few miles before turning around, but I have every intent of coming back to the area. Creek was flowing lightly and the trail was generally easy to follow. Was greeted by several cows in the first mile.
 
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I've dubbed this the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde loop.

We hit it up counterclockwise, which is highly recommended (get the bushwhacking done, and enjoy better views on the ridgeline on the return).

First up, Mr. Hyde, aka, Deer Creek trail. The trail is easy to follow for the first couple of miles on the way to the Deer Creek drainage and up paralleling a private cattle operation past David Gowan's grave.

Shortly after, we began commenting that it appears Mother Nature is trying to reclaim this trail. That comment proved prophetic, as it became very clear that She is succeeding. Tons of bushwhacking, very sparse indications of a trail, and forests of poison ivy to contend with. Trail maintenance seems to consist of cairns--many of which are quite large and helpful, and actually do a reasonably good job of assisting hikers navigate. That said, having the gps route downloaded was very helpful, and despite the cairns, we found ourselves consulting it regularly (and often having to adjust our course to stay "on route").

From about mile 3 to just shy of mile 9, it's solid bushwhacking. Long pants mandatory if you care about your legs; long sleeves are probably a good idea as well, though I managed to keep the damage minimal in short sleeves.

The only redeeming qualities of this section were: (1) solitude (it appeared that only about 5 people hike this entire section each year), and (2) the creek, which had a decent flow in it for nearly the entirety of the section, despite the very dry winter.

Eventually, about 9 miles, the trail turns up steeply and way from the creek for an abrupt climb that pops out at the Mt. Peeley trailhead. There were two cars at the TH and while we were taking a break, one of their owners and his friend returned to the TH from their hike up Peeley. They were the first humans we encountered.

From there, it was a couple miles of road walk to connect over to the Gold Ridge trail. Normally, I'm not a fan of road walks, but this was very welcome after several miles of bushwhacking. Plus, the views of the surrounding Mazatzals provided ample distraction.

The turn off to Gold Ridge starts as an old FS road, suitable for SxS, but it is clear trai for hikers. Near the "official" start/end of Gold Ridge, the "road" turns into a single track. We were worried that we would need to do more bushwhacking, but were pleasantly surprised to see Gold Ridge was very well maintained--clear of the ubiquitous manzanita that lines the trail for miles, and smooth tread underneath the foot. We found that this is also open to mountain bikers, and we saw one come through as we hiked.

The Ridge, as its name suggests, offers great views of the mountains and provided a delightful descent, which gets pretty steep in sections.

The last mile or so to the TH is a bit ho-hum. The prickly pear blooms are about to explode. If you want a great show, they will likely be popping next week.

Overall, I don't think I'll be doing Deer Creek again anytime soon, but Gold Ridge as an out and back seems to be a pretty ideal R2R training hike.
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About three years ago we drove up from the valley and hiked South Fork Trail. At the time I was intrigued by the fact that two other trails (Goldridge and Deer Creek) all branch from this same TH and parallel each other.

Now that Payson has been home for the past year and half, I decided it was time to get back to Deer Creek and check out one of the other trails.

The Deer Creek 45 trail begins in ranch land. While cattle evidence was everywhere, there was not a cow in site. The Gowan grave site was an interesting historical marker along the way.

Shortly after the Gowan site the trail dropped down to the creek. Despite a bone-dry winter, we did get a little rain and snow last week. It was enough that sections of Deer Creek were flowing. We stopped in the creek bottom and enjoyed lunch under some sycamores.

We continued on to the Mazatzal Wilderness boundary sign. Beyond here the trail conditions change dramatically. It goes from relatively smooth and well-blazed trail to overgrown and hard to follow. A few haphazard cairns either point to paths that no longer exist, or they're placed to be confusing. After some bushwhacking plus clipping live oak and catclaw, we reached the creek bottom again.

The views up the canyon were breathtaking, with Mt. Peeley's knob-shaped summit looming high above. A few patches of snow still dot the highest elevations. We decided this was a good place to turn around on our short day hike. In total we hiked about 4.2 miles in (8.4 total) before the trail conditions began to degrade.
 
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We decided to go for a hike in the Payson area. When we reached hwy 188, we remembered the Deer Creek trailhead was opposite the turnoff, so thought we would check out the Deer Creek trail. We found it to be a good trail that followed the creek much farther than we wanted to go. After 5 creek crossing, we felt it was time to return to the trailhead. It's a great place to hike when the water is flowing down the mountainside.
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I don't remember seeing any flowers.
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This was the third weekend out of the last four that I hiked in the Mazatzals...didn't plan it that way, but it's hard to beat great views and a relatively short drive. This was the first time either of us had started from Deer Creek Trailhead, and both trails on the South Fork-Gold Ridge loop were also new ones for us. There were a few vehicles and a hunter in the parking lot when we arrived ~7AM, and it was in the mid/upper-40s and pretty comfortable as we set out.

We hiked the loop clockwise, turning left off Deer Creek Trail to start up Gold Ridge Trail. As advertised, it was wide and well maintained and gained a lot of elevation, with some steep/loose sections on the way up...but it was efficient and didn't waste time with switchbacks :). A little over 3.5 miles in, I left the trail to go up to the "GOLD" benchmark on peak/hill 5776. It's only a quarter mile off the trail but pretty brushy getting up there. I pulled out the gloves and clippers again and picked up another round of Mazatzal scratches to add to the collection.

But it was a worthwhile detour--it's a unique "double gold" benchmark, both gold in color, which I'd never seen, and also stamped with the "GOLD" name. Plus it's set on a beautiful multi-colored rock outcropping. I found it hidden under a rock as FLYING FLIVER described in an old triplog, and I noticed it doesn't have a triangle symbol like most benchmarks...not sure if the triangle appears only on newer benchmarks, because this one was placed in 1926. Peak/hill 5776 isn't the highest point in the general vicinity, but the views are nice.

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I headed back down to the trail, and we continued along Gold Ridge to FR 3348 and crossed paths with a tarantula along the way. We followed 3348/201 past some nice campsites and started down South Fork Trail. Pigeon Spring had a pool of stagnant, algae-covered water near it, and the trail was hard to follow as we climbed over a lot of deadfall through the fire-damaged area around there. We eventually got down to the creek bed and picked up some cairns...it was slow going, but there was a lot of nice fall color along the creek. We saw occasional pools of water, but nothing too substantial after the dry year.

The loop is a tale of two halves...where Gold Ridge was wide, well-maintained, and extremely easy to follow, South Fork was the opposite--often hard to find, narrow, and overgrown. We climbed over and under a lot of deadfall along the way, and cairns made it easier to spot the trail further along, but the GPS often came in handy as well. The next few miles were a blur, following the trail as it alternated between following the rocky creek bed and climbing up onto one of the banks to bypass cliffs or large obstacles. There were a number of spots where the sloping, loose trail was very narrow as we passed some sheer drops--places where a slip would be very bad. After a few more years of erosion, some of those spots could get really interesting as the trail continues to wash out...

The cairn frequency increased as we got closer to the trailhead, and the canyon started to open up with ~2.5 miles remaining as the trail flattened out a little and became easier to follow, eventually crossing the wide wash and then leveling off to close the loop. We kept an eye out out for the old stone cabin mentioned in the guide but didn't see it...the guide is 20+ years old, so I'm guessing the cabin's not there anymore. Other than the hunter in the morning and a trail runner near the trailhead at the end of the day, we didn't see anyone all day. It was another fun one in the Mazatzals...lot of variety in the scenery, nice fall color and geology, and a double gold benchmark along the way.
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Lots of bright color along South Fork

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Stagnant, algae-covered pool near the wooden sign for the spring
 
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This was 2 different hikes in the Mazatzal Mountains to check out a waterfall and take a look at some wildflowers:
1) Rock Creek Trail to the falls
2) South Fork Trail

Rock Creek Falls
I had only been on the Rock Creek Trail once, on a hike to Peak 7571. This time I just went as far as Rock Creek Falls in order to check out the falls and see if there were any wildflowers blooming along the way.

From where I parked, the first 2.75 miles of the trail were in great shape, thanks to the efforts of @mazatzal , @sredfield , and others. The next 1/4 mile or so was slightly overgrown, but after that the trail was fairly brushy, but not impassable; and not too far from the falls.

There was some really good water flow at the falls, so the hike up was definitely worth it. If you ask me, I thought that these falls were better than Big Kahuna Falls on the Barnhardt Trail. We went a short distance past the falls to check out the view looking down on the falls -- this short trip was well worth it imho.

Wildflowers weren't great on the trail, but there were enough blooms to add some color to the hike.

I like the Rock Creek Trail -- it has good views both going up and coming back down, and there was sure a nice payoff on this trip. There is a good bit of elevation gain on the trail, so count on getting a decent workout.

South Fork Trail
A couple of years ago I did the Gold Ridge-South Fork loop, and there was a really nice wildflower showing on the South Fork Trail about 2 miles from the end of the hike. So we decided to start from the Deer Creek TH and hike a couple of miles up the South Fork Trail to check out the flowers. Unfortunately, the display this year was a bit underwhelming at this point. There were a number of flowers blooming, but I would call the display "moderate". The flowers were nice to look at, but I did not recommend going all the way out there to look at flowers -- there have been much better places to go this year.

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Rock Creek Falls was the definite highlight of the day! The water flow is much better right now than it was last year at this time when I was there.

Distance and elevation gain for the 2 hikes are below. Stats above are the sum of the 2.
Rock Creek: 7.24 miles with 2,559 feet of AEG
South Fork: 3.91 miles with 438 feet of AEG
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Wildflowers on the South Fork Trail were moderate; on the Rock Creek Trail I'd say that the flowers are lightly moderate.

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There was a nice flow of water in the creek; some might describe the flow as "heavy" I suppose.

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There was a nice flow of water going over the falls; I would call it "heavy", but I am not certain how to distinguish "heavy" from "medium"
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emilystardustTriplogs 840
Hiking7.07 Miles 1,482 AEG
Hiking7.07 Miles   5 Hrs   49 Mns   1.37 mph
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Started from the upper trailhead by Mt. Peeley. First mile or so was very steep but pretty clear. After that, lots of creek crossings and route finding up and down the sides of the creek. Pretty slow going but more water and more fall than I expected.
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Deer Creek Trail #45Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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Backpacked from the top down to Gowan Camp and camped for the night. I was surprised there was so much water with the dry year it has been. The stream must be spring fed from somewhere as there just doesn't seem like there is enough natural moisture up there to keep the creek flowing like it was. Maple draw had flow as did a few other unnamed drainages during our day hike. Hiking past Gowan camp the trail gets pretty over grown with a few spots where you need to pay attention to your footing with some drop offs that will get the heart racing for a moment or two. Found a nice pool with a rock overhang that would be good place for a soak in the stream a mile or so down the trail from the wilderness sign. We hiked maybe 2 miles past Gowan camp and didn't see any good places to camp. It seems like Gowan camp is the best place to camp until you drop much lower into the drainage towards the gravesite. Gowan camp is a nice wide area with a lot of space. A lot of the sites are kind of sloped, but it's doable. We found a decent spot next to the creek that was fairly flat. It was a cold night. Upper 30's for a few hours before the sun came up. I tried making it in my hammock, but with no insulation moved to the ground with my sleeping pad, ground cover and bivy and I was warm again. Came back with some bug bites from something, but hey that's the price of hanging out in the woods.

Found the unmarked start of the Davey Gowan trail just before Gowan Camp. There isn't much of a trail for the first couple 100 yards or so. You're just walking along the side of a hill, but there are pink ribbons to help keep you on the path. We didn't hike much of it so maybe it gets more discernable as you keep hiking.

The road to the TH was in good shape and any car with some decent ground clearance can get there no problem. Love this area. It's a little longer drive then Mount Ord, but you get to the pines so quick. It would make a nice place to camp even in the summer. And not a lot of people come up to this area. Another stellar trip!

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Stream had a nice flow. Plenty of water to filter.
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Deer Creek Trail #45Payson, AZ
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hikerdwTriplogs 541
Hiking12.89 Miles 1,641 AEG
Hiking12.89 Miles   6 Hrs   39 Mns   2.32 mph
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Saw the recent triplogs posted by Joe and Bruce reporting superhighway like conditions on Deer Creek #45 as far as Bars Canyon so decided to check it out. Superhighway like conditions continue up to the wilderness sign and then conditions downgrade slightly, although the trail is still easy enough to follow. Decent water flow the entire hike which was a nice treat. On the return, in one of the more overgrown sections, I heard that distinct sound of a rattlesnake so abruptly stopped but could not get a visual so let Ryan know for him to stop as well. The rattle got quicker and louder and it seemed to be coming between the two of us so I moved forward and Ryan moved back to give it the space it wanted. Appreciated the warning. Only saw 2 other pairs of hikers the entire day. Great hike.
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South Fork - Gold Ridge LoopPayson, AZ
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,495
Hiking13.80 Miles 3,427 AEG
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I decided to do this loop to get a workout and to check out the wildflowers in the area.

I definitely got a workout going up the Deer Ridge Trail to Camp Grasshopper. There were quite a few flowers to see along the trail, and I also saw a gopher snake in the trail.

Going down the South Fork Trail was slow going. The trail is not easy to follow, but thankfully there were quite a few cairns which were helpful. There was water running along much of the South Fork, but the flow is less than what I have seen in other years. Wildflowers were nice in a one mile stretch of the South Fork Trail, about a mile from the TH. Owl clover is only about 3-4 inches high though.
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There were some nice flowers going up the Deer Ridge Trail; a section of the South Fork Trail about a mile from the TH was nice also.

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There was a pool of filterable water next to the sign for the spring, but the springbox was basically mud

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There was running water in many places in the creek, but the flow is not as great as I have seen it in the past
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Deer Creek - Shake Ridge & Shake Tree Cyn Loop, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Apr 02 2022
joebartelsTriplogs 5,967
Hiking11.29 Miles 2,195 AEG
Hiking11.29 Miles   8 Hrs   27 Mns   1.62 mph
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Bruce put a couple of hikes on the table. The second option got my attention as... has he lost his mind. Then it dawned on me that I'd been wishing for a stupid-cool hike for years now, just shut up and see if he'll actually do it. Apparently, he was ready to hike.

Without saying a word, I added a shortcut option to his seemingly impossible route but was excited to give it a try.

From the trailhead, we hiked Deer Creek Trail #45 to Dear Creek. It was running enough that it took me 5 minutes to find a safe crossing. On the flip side, we immediately ascended a ridge that delivered us to FR 415. Game trails crisscrossing the steep ridge helped the ascent to FR 415. Shockingly passed a newly signed Jct to two horizontal water tanks. When FR 415 ends, it continues as a good trail on Shake Ridge. It merges into an ATV trail and then continues as an excellent hunter trail through pinions.

The Forest roads out here never caught my attention before but seem like an option to attack Mazzie Peak from Deer Creek TH. Substantial wildflowers for a few stretches.

Almost to our 5 mi break, Bruce jumped on a prickly pear. I was cool with leaving him there for dead. Instead, we took turns getting hundreds of needles out.

From Shake Ridge down to Shake Tree Canyon is a mixture of brush crunching/whacking and careful foot placement. After I got catclaw hooked on my lip, there was a nice section of trail. Game trail, hunter trail, grow site trail, who knows. Almost down, I got speared by an agave, a good 3/4 inch deep but didn't bleed bad. Must have missed the veins as I experienced lawn sprinkler bleeding in Boynton decades ago.

Gordie got down to the creek covered in leeches and surrounded by bears. Fighting an ounce of common sense, he decides we are going up canyon 500 ft to see the geology. Bruce returned to planet Earth about 2 minutes after attempting up.

For one mile down Shake Tree Canyon, we gingerly scooted across piles of debris, crawled over dead trees, gambled on the sides of the canyon off and on, oh and admired a variety of butterflies!

Just as the BS let up, we took a longer-than-average lunch. By this time of day, it was etched in stone we would not even attempt my shortcut, but rather a serious abbreviated version of the planned college-energy route.

After a short joiner stretch through the lowest portion of Bars Canyon, we were back on Deer Creek Trail. Good old-fashioned trail hiking back to the trailhead never felt so good.

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Albeit rough, it was a great hike. Definitely a future hike in there too, but I think we can both agree it needs to be a lot cooler outside to wear the necessary pants to negotiate the terrain.
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Poppies, blue richards, desert chicory, sego lily, lupine, desert globemallow, daisies, desert anemone, etc

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Good clear flow in the lowest segment before Deer Creek

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Flowing nice and clear in the upper end of the canyon. Intermittent flow through the mid to lower canyon.

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Strong, clear, medium flow.
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Deer Creek - Shake Ridge & Shake Tree Cyn Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,894
Hiking12.17 Miles 2,128 AEG
Hiking12.17 Miles   8 Hrs   28 Mns   1.73 mph
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I through out 2 options this week. One stuck to trails, and had an abundance of flowers the last time we did it. Option 2, either covered all new ground off trail or from the last reports, on a trail that was reported severely overgrown the end of last year. Joe responded, "Option 2", I responded "Oh Crap".

The original Option 2 was 18+ miles and 4000+ feet of AEG. Unless the canyon hiking was quick, there would be no chance of completing, so there were bail points.

We hit Deer Creek and were surprised by how heavy the flow was. Shortly thereafter, it was time to start the 5 mile climb up Shake Ridge, to our drop in point. It used a combination of old FR's to their end, and a surprisingly good use/game trail started. We took this to our drop in to Shake Tree Canyon.

This was the first area of concern. The lines were tight on the TOPO, but looked doable. But you never know if you are going to get cliffed out. We picked a spot and dropped in. It started as a steep, loose, agave and prickly pear dodgeball track. We got lucky a part of the way down and hooked up on some sort of an old use trail off and on that took us to the bottom.

There was a good deal of water running in the creek. My goal was to go find the falls, which I find out later, were 165' tall. After fighting the tangled brush from past floods, for no more than 150', I gave up. We started our exit from Shake Tree Canyon fighting the same sorts of things, sometimes hopping out momentarily to bypass some of the thicker areas.

It became evident at lunch, that we were going to be cutting the planned track short. The last 3 miles had taken almost 4 hours. We headed through the catclaw towards an actual trail, Deer Creek #45. The last triplog I read from Oct 2021 from @hikerdw, stated that the trail was severely overgrown. I'm happy to report, from the point we got on the trail at the Davey Gowan gravesite, to the TH, the trail had seen lots-o-work. It's now a super highway.

It was a good day hitting some new areas. Shake Ridge was better than expected. Shake Tree Canyon, Bars Canyon and Deer Creek were all running very nicely. We still have some unfinished business in the area.
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The most flowers and varieties seen on any hike this year to date

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Deer Creek 45 to Bars Canyon, AZ 
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hikerdwTriplogs 541
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In summary, OUCH!

Right now Deer Creek #45 is heavily overgrown and very difficult to hike. Heavy pants and long selves might help but your still gonna get snagged and unless you have something protecting your face it will still be uncomfortable. I’m still removing thorns from several deep gashes I received.

We bailed into the creek bed before hitting the grave site and decided to just hike into Bars Canyon a bit which somewhat salvaged the trip as Bars and Shake Tree Canyons piqued my interest for a future trip.

If anyone is aware of any planned maintenance on this trail PM me, I have a brush cutter blade I’d like to test out :)

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A group of us installed a 3 panel kiosk at the Deer Creek trailhead. Installation and alignment went nice and smooth as with the last one at Barnhardt.
Temps were great with quite a bit of cloud cover so it never got too warm.
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Hiking9.49 Miles 1,331 AEG
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I went up Gold Ridge for a short distance by mistake and then crossed a couple of washes off-trail to get to Deer Creek. Coming back with the very well marked trail junction I still don't know how I did this.

Plenty of water in the creek, but smoke from a fire to the west made going further up the canyon unpleasant.

3 other cars at the TH, but I didn't see anyone all day. A little warm in the upper 80's.
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We made it in maybe a quarter mile before the grave site. We hiked on 4/2. Plenty of water in the stream and found a nice site with streams on both sides of our camp. I got really confused with the trail when it clearly made a turn to the left up the hill towards Lincoln Spring with no apparent trail that stayed right that would keep us close to the creek per the posted GPS route in hike AZ. The route in HikeArizona keeps you along the creek bed, but there was no trail in or along the creek. At that point does one just choose their own path along the creek and when does an actual trail appear again? Was there a trail along the stream bed that has since been washed out due to the fire? I was happy to get my teenage son to backpack with me a few miles in so didn't push the bit of bushwhacking on him the next day to do some day hiking up the stream. But the route that went left up the hill and through a gate...once we hit the gate we turned back around and went back to the stream...does that reconnect with Deer Creek or is that the actual trail?

The stars were amazing and we had a cool night time fly over of some sort of military practice sortie.
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