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Little Elden Loop peak, AZ 
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Basically a last minute plan with two of the more daring hikers I know. A lengthy loop + off trail peak. One of the few accessible dirt roads in Flag rn. Blocked off immediately after TH.

7 am meet, hiking by 10. Our norm 😝 Connector trail to loop. Little Elden at start and end. Old Heart is clearly disappearing. 😔 You will need to be determined to stay on it.

The off trail isn't that difficult. Although RF clearly slows it down. Can go around the barriers till the very end. Final scramble to old Sierra Club registry. We ended up leaving the track on the way down for a more direct path down. Shed a bit of blood along the way.

Lil Bear seemed like it took forever to finish on the way back. Will look to continue to climb higher from here. ☝️
 
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beautiful loop on a stormy afternoon. got a few drizzles but no rain, though it did rain in town afterwards. :)
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Elden Loop, AZ 
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The I-17 Flex Lanes are in operation. :y:

Since Bruce hadn't been higher than 76 feet ASL in over a month, and certainly hadn't ascended more than that, I dialed back a 5k+ day plan to something that might ease beachboy into the mountains. The best laid plans ... blah blah blah ... I had forgotten that Coconino NF closes some roads near Flagstaff during stage 2 fire restrictions. People can still recreate wherever they want, because people don't pose a potential fire danger. But motor vehicles are prohibited from some dirt roads, because vehicles apparently do risky things that people do not do when not in the proximity of their vehicles. I would argue that this wouldn't stand up in court, or make any sense, except I think it may be factual that people in the proximity of their vehicles cause more fires than people not near vehicles. :-k

So, anyway, we quickly pulled up some HAZ maps and came up with other options that might justify the drive and wouldn't be a holiday weekend clusterflock. I offered up a 10mi/2kft option kicking the O'leary lantern, but ptown thought doubling it would be more fun. I have no immediate objections until I complain later. :)

I don't usually drive two hours to hike another town's version of Camelback, and apparently it's been a decade since I did this last (and first/only!).

It took about 6 miles to get up the hill, way more than I was planning. There's some interesting trail routing down below which seems to attempt to maximize mileage over efficiency, a theme we would later learn is common here. Heart is exposed, but it was a nice day so a little sun wasn't awful.

Sunset hits the burn area pretty quickly, but is still enjoyable and scenic. It has a couple of new switchbacks climbing out of the Down Under junction west of Little Elden.

Brookbank has new tread north of peak 8819 and takes a much wider loop north of 8747 and downhill west of there. We took an "offtrail" shortcut down the drainage between 8747 and 8819 (there was a nice old cut to follow) that saved about 4.5 miles off the new official Brookbank route.

From here, we discovered that Upper Oldham has been decommissioned from top to bottom. The first part follows a cut that used to be called Middle Oldham, and the rest of it is all new trail (there are apparently no longer lower, middle, or upper versions; just one complete Oldham). Formerly 2 miles, the route is now nearly doubled at 3.7 miles. Previously this was a steep trail. Now, the switchbacks are so plentiful and mild that they are ideal for ebike riders with dead batteries. Going uphill it was tolerable. Going downhill you'd lose your mind.

I'm not trained in trail building, but I'm naturally gifted in complaining about what clearly doesn't meet the quality of all those old skool CCC trails we have all become so accustomed to. This new trail cut makes a horrible attempt at a consistent grade, with numerous 10-15 foot stretches of staircase-type grade, followed immediately by a short flat or drop. There is no way to establish or maintain a comfortable hiking pace. It's probably a whole lot of fun whoopdeedoo on a bike though. And maybe that was the point?

Finally back up top, we took south Sunset up toward the summit before cutting across to the descent via Lookout. Bruce bitched more than my last 5 paragraphs, but I sort of enjoyed this stretch. Afternoon shade, cool temps, and a nicely worn path took us down quite efficiently. A refreshing change in trail design!

We took the north route on Fatman and missed a turn. Did a short XC before piecing together about 12 different unofficial user routes along the foothill slopes back to the truck. Almost certainly created by mountain bikers, these were somehow naturally created without unnecessary switchbacks. Weird.

Good to see 1-800 back out west. It was an enjoyable holiday weekend with a refreshing Sunday swimming in the back seat. ;) Whining aside, it was a great day, and I'd do it again!
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Elden Loop, AZ 
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Hiking19.29 Miles 4,447 AEG
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Fresh off vacation on the East Coast, I got an invite from Chums to escape to cooler country in Flagstaff. For various reasons, I'd had hikes with nothing but minimal mileage, elevation gain, or actual elevation for over a month. So, when he threw out a hike with 5,200+ feet of gain, I politely poo-pooed the invite. He came back with a more reasonable 11-mile, 3,200-foot gain hike, and I was in.

The plan was to drive into Friedlein Prairie to cut a bit more mileage off, but we quickly found a locked gate. So, back to the original idea to start at Schultz Tank, only to find another locked gate. Later searching showed that these areas close during the current Stage 2 fire restrictions. On to Plan C.

Neither of us are fans of the trail leaving the Elden Trailhead to the tower, so we headed over to the less busy Sandy Seep Trailhead, with plans to start up the Heart Trail and wing it from there. The burn is still quite evident up here, but you still get sections of unburned forest. We fashioned a loop, mostly of things I'd done before. On Brookbank #2, we smartly off-trailed and short-cutted Hill 8747 to save some mileage. It worked out. We were now starting our climb back up. The Oldham Trail has been completely rerouted going back uphill. It only touches the old trail in a couple of spots. Chums thought there were too many switchbacks. Me, being just a few years older, found them to be appropriate.

We bypassed the Elden Tower and hiked through the aspen thickness of the Sunset Trail to the Elden Lookout Trail. For me, this trail makes tired legs even more tired with all the rocks to negotiate.

Reaching the Fatman's Loop, we made the decision to go cross-country/follow use trails to get our way back to the start.

So much for taking it easy. Temperatures were mostly nice all day, especially in the shade or when the wind decided to blow. Thanks for driving, Chums. Good catching up.
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This is a fairly challenging hike incorporating several trails into a loop. Start by following the Elden Lookout Trail #4 and
Fatmans Loop Trail #25 to the top of Mount Elden at 9,299 feet. Then start your gradual descent on the “back side” of the mountain via the Sunset Trail #23. Turn right (east) on the Heart Trail #103 and follow it until it intersects the Christmas Tree Trail #160 which will merge eventually with the Fatman’s Loop trail and lead you back to the parking lot.
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Upper Elden Loop, AZ 
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Sandy Seep Trail #129
Bruce switched out the grind up Elden Lookout Trail #4 I enjoy. This is a great alternative for those seeking a more casual approach to the Elden network.

Little Elden Trail #69
Intended to just hike the lower 0.85mi of this trail. 0.72 mi up it has been rerouted by the AZT thousand mile club. The former arduous 0.13mi/44ft heave is now a 0.5mi/44ft stroll around a pimple knoll.

Heart Trail #103
This trail has received a rare nice reroute. Two or three scenic settings stopped us momentarily to admire. We cached water bottles 1.9mi up in anticipation of taking the old shorter route down.

Sunset Trail #23
We took a short break at the junction and then headed up. Albeit torched in this center section of #23, the pines are back in business in under a half mile up. Passing Little Bear Trail #112 I rejoiced not having to go through the mental agony of its ridiculously long switchbacks.

Brookbank Trail #2
Heading down after lunch involved intense rough terrain. They've done a lot of work but there are a lot of fallen trees. The side limbs have been kindly removed in one spot on each to crawl over. Overall, I still enjoy the trail.
Bruce occasionally thinks to check the pine fragrance. Not sure about vanilla/Strawberry/whatever this round. It was a distinct flashback to Dad and I stopping in Flagstaff in '86 moving to Arizona. Stepping outta my Scirocco was the same impact pine fragrance, haven't noticed that in the last 37 years. It was 118° when we rolled into Phx, so at least that hasn't changed.

Upper Oldham Trail
Midway up it seemed like a remarkable pine environment. Pine shade ended and whining set sail.

Down n Out
The joy of the hike was over. Casual ascents make for draggy descents. The area is vivid green, with lots of medium-sized oaks. Nobody goes to Flag for oak foliage but there must be a nice hue when they turn.

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Android updated the default voice RS utilizes. Compound words and two words often had a raised pitch on the second part. Bruce puts waypoints in the follow-route for junctions. Sunset HEART and such were comical.

While I prefer steeper grades, this only got draggy a couple of times. It was a great hike to comfortably knock out ~20mi in July.
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Off to Flag to get into some cooler air. There was a 60% chance of T-Storms, but we were fortunate to miss the brunt of the storms. The first wave passed to our east, giving us a few sprinkles. The second two waves passed to our west, giving us some light rain for about half an hour or so.

From the Sandy Seep TH, we were one of just a handful of cars - a better, much less crowded option than the nearby Eldon TH.

I wanted to hike the complete reroute of the Heart #103 trail. The reroute is 1.5 miles longer, but the trail is much smoother, has an easier grade, and takes you through some more interesting areas. Me likey.

At the intersection of the Heart Trail and Sunset Trails, and after Joe was done with his distraction, we took a short break and continued counterclockwise (CCW) through the mixed burned and old growth conifers. In here, I spotted a large Whitetail buck, still in velvet.

On the Brookbank #2 Trail, we followed the well-worn path and either missed our turn or the trail has been rerouted. This is just one of a number of trails up here that have been rerouted since the fire. The section from Dry Lake Hills down to Eldon Lookout Road is an absolute nightmare. They may have given up on this section.

We did the road walk to The Upper Oldham Trail and noticed that they've cut in a new Oldham Trail (Middle Oldham) to the north of the road. It meets up with Upper Oldham.

Upper Oldham is in decent shape. There have been numerous washout events, so you need to keep your eyes peeled for the trail vs. wash areas. There are currently a dozen or so deadfalls that you can pretty easily bypass. This climb always sucks the air from your lungs.

Up top, we caught a great breeze to dry off and have a snack. From here, we cruised back to the TH, enjoying the downhill and checking out the old cut of the Heart Trail.

Temps ranged from 74 at the start to 86 at one point, and down to 61.5 during a couple of the rain events. Clouds kept it comfortable most of the day.

Great to get your head out of the oven every now and then.
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Sandy Seep Trail #129Flagstaff, AZ
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Devised a loop off the map. Low & behold, the night before, I found Tibber had posted the same route 9 years ago. Dld it & away I went. Believe it is actually FR935 to the TH.

The old Heart trail was the highlight of the day. Sunset is more of a ridgeline climb. Then finally a short road to the peak. The elev. gained over 6 miles is quickly dumped down lookout. Fat mans is interesting. Beautiful temps & fall colors.
 
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Heart Trail #103Flagstaff, AZ
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Last week, the wife and I had a 4 day vacation in Flagstaff. That “weekend” reminded me how much I enjoyed hiking in Flag and how many trails I have left to hike. So that inspired me to drive up and revisit Elden TH again. Got there a little after 5am, ( fourth car in the lot). Initial thought had been to do the Sunset Trail, but upon looking at the map at the TH it seemed to make more sense to knock out another trail that I hadn’t done before…the Heart Trail.

Hit Elden Peak first. Kick my but last week. It did this week as well, but I did better. Splits FM 22: ST 42: SS 1:15: LO 1:24. After hitting the peak, I headed down and started on the north on the Sunset. I’ve done this trail a couple of times over the years and it’s cool to see how the Aspens have matured. This was my first time taking the Sunset north. (I’ve always come up from Schultz before). I don’t remember there being such extensive fire damage in the interior basin. Not sure if that is a result of my jogging and keeping my head down, the direction I was coming from or there being a fire since my last visit. The Sunset trail went right by a road a couple of times. On the second encounter I noticed a sign and went down to check it out. While down there, I noticed there was another trail across the road. This trail was not signed, but I believe it was the Upper Oldham trail. Weird that there was no signage for it. Went back and continued on the Sunset. With my meanderings it took me 5 miles to reach the Heart Trail. Not prepping for this trail, I did not realize that there were now two different routes for this trail. At 5.45 miles I came to the split in the trail. It was not marked, but both routes looked pretty solid. Without realizing it, I opted for the older version, which started switchbacking below the juncture. This route is supposedly shorter (it took me 2.5 miles to reach Little Elden, rather than the posted 4.25 miles) and definitely steeper. For most of the hike down the trail was very exposed from the the fire. Nice distant views and of the nearby rock formations, but very little protection from the sun. Once I reached the Christmas Tree trail I continued with my gridding (following user trails) that I had started last week. Ironically, one of the northbound trails tied into the Heart Trail. According to my count I still have 10 southbound trails and 9 northbound trails that I still need to investigate. Fun times! When I got back to the Elden TH it was a zoo!! Parking capacity is probably designed for 40 cars. There were at least 10 over their limit. I had to back up twice trying to exit because the entry/exit point was only wide enough for one car at time and cars kept coming in as I was trying to exit. :(

Nice hike, but a long drive. Looks like I will have to come back and do the new version of the Heart Trail. :)
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Heart Trail #103Flagstaff, AZ
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The Heart Trail has been rerouted to favor the needs of mountain bikers, with a lot of very long switchbacks that don't gain you much elevation. I am told by a long-time local hiker that the Coconino Dry Hills plan, long-term, will favor mountain bikers, and no amount of input that he or other hikers have offered for the plan has been listened to, not even safety concerns. He is very angry about this.

I followed the old trail, which is becoming very washed-out in spots. They have also removed the sign where you would turn off of the Sandy Seep Trail. I guess there is a new sign further down now, where the new trail starts. At one point I accidentally got off onto the newer trail, missing a place where the two trails cross. I realized right away that I wasn't in the mood to do those long and VERY BORING switchbacks, so I decided to bushwhack up a ridge and meet up with the old trail, which I could see above me. This was a bit of a slog, and I probably would have been better off to stick with the biker trail.

I missed another connection when I got up on the side of a steep grassy slope, where there are a lot of competing switchbacks (old trail and new), and they share tread for a short distance. When I neared the top of the ridge I realized my mistake. I was super annoyed, because there was going to be another very long set of switchbacks to reach the ridge, or, I would have to bushwhack straight up. I was getting tired, so I turned around in disgust. On the way down I did make note of where I had missed the last connection. Won't make that mistake again, if I ever bother with this trail again. Some places it is so washed out it has become a gully, and you have to walk alongside of it.

I imagine the new trail is built on better principles of trail-building, because I noticed that instead of going up constantly it has dips in it to prevent it becoming a creek. Nevertheless, I prefer the old one.

I didn't get rained on this time. The weather was warm and humid.
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Elden Loop via Sandy Seep, AZ 
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We headed north to escape the heat this weekend...even Sedona had highs in the upper 90s, so we targeted a little higher elevation and planned a loop hike in Flagstaff. We decided to start at Sandy Seep Trailhead to avoid the crowds at Elden Lookout Trailhead, which was packed when we drove by on Highway 89. Sandy Seep was much quieter, with only a few vehicles in the lot when we started.

About a quarter mile into the hike, a very slowly crossed the trail in front of us. The pattern on the scales looked a little like a rattlesnake, but it didn't have a rattle...I'm not sure exactly what kind it was, but hopefully someone can identify it in the pictures :). Sandy Seep was a nice, easy warmup, just a very gradual incline. We went clockwise on the route, following Christmas Tree to a brief section of Farman's Loop, where we connected with Elden Lookout Trail. As expected, that was a very stretch up to the top.

The views kept getting better as we gained elevation, although it was a fairly urban view from that side of Elden, looking down on streets and businesses below. Still, a very pleasant stretch of trail, and a nice workout over the last mile and a half leading up through the aspens and switchbacks to the top. I took the quick detour on the side spur up to the lookout and got the first views of the day of the San Francisco Peaks...Humphreys had a few small patches of snow near the top.

From there, we continued north on Sunset, and the crowds thinned out considerably--we didn't see any other hikers along the rest of the loop, just a couple of mountain bikers before the intersection with Heart. The landscape along Sunset is a mix of charred trees and nice, green aspen/pine forests--it's interesting to see how some areas were spared from the wildfires while others were decimated...but still great views of the San Francisco Peaks and looking south into the valley below.

We connected with Heart Trail and started the slow descent down the mountain. As others have noted in recent triplogs, it seems like part of the trail had been re-routed. I had multiple tracks loaded on the GPS and could see alternate routes down the mountain, and the trails crossed in a few places, but we picked the most obvious one and stuck with that. The section along Heart Trail near Little Eldon Mountain was one of my favorites--we started to get farther away from the burned zone, and there as a lot of nice green color and beautiful rock outcroppings, with afternoon clouds casting shadows over the mountains.

The intersection with Little Elden Trail wasn't marked very well...or really at all. There was no sign, although we did see the broken remnants of a sign post, and it it looked like someone had set branches all over the early part to try to block it off. But we followed it anyway and circled back to Sandy Seep to complete the loop, passing a few final mountain bikers and horseback riders in the last mile. I'd passed by Elden Mountain on Highway 89 many times but had never hiked there, and the loop exceeded my expectations--a nice variety of scenery and level of difficulty on the trails. On the drive out after the hike, we made a quick stop at Elden Pueblo ruins [ triplog ] , which as a nice add at the end of the day...much more fun than the construction slowdowns on I-17 north of Phoenix :).
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We started from the Sandy Seep TH to stay away from the more popular Elden Lookout TH.

Temps were in the 60's to start. I planned the loop to be CCW to get the exposed climb up the Heart Trail out of the way early. We were lucky enough to have cloud cover for the majority of the day, including this climb. About 1/2 way up the heart trail, we began noticing a new trail veering off from the Heart Trail. This ended up being a longer, more gradual reroute to the top. We ran into @hikerdw (David) and his son Ryan on their way down. Great to meet you guys!

Where the Heart Trail meets the Sunset trail, you begin seeing the devastation from the Museum fire. There were pockets and areas of green, but large areas of moonscape also.

Both Oldham #1 and Upper Oldham Trails are closed because of fire damage/washouts. So we hiked the road to the top. The road has also seen a lot of washout repair.

The Lunch spot, had a view off the rim to the east. The Virga, was no longer Virga out there.

We bailed on going to the top of Elden as the thunder cracked above and the rain and wind kicked in. It felt good to feel cold. The rain only lasted for 10-15 minutes.

We met the masses once at the Elden Lookout Trail until turning on Fatmans loop. From there we powered on the Christmas Tree Trail, with one more brief rain on the way back.

On the way home on I-17, we saw the Pig Fire and the 20 or so vehicles of firefighters trying to put it out.
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Started from the Sandy Seep TH which was a first. Ran into Joe @joebartels and Bruce @The_Eagle on the Heart Trail and chatted for a few minutes, nice to meet both of you :)

Sandy Seep Trail Nice trail from the trail head. Nice warm up.

Christmas Tree Trail I enjoy this trail. As we typically do when hiking this trail in the early morning, we saw a small herd of about 6 deer. Crossed paths with a few hikers that started from the Elden TH and a few dog walkers but not to crowded.

Elden Lookout Trail Always enjoy this climb. It starts off gradually which lulls you into a nice stride then kicks it into high gear when the switchbacks get shorter and the climbs get longer. I actually beat Ryan to the top which is rare so I was all smiles :D when he arrived.

Sunset Trail Great trail. You do run into the edge of the burn area near the Heart Trail junction which was tough to see. Followed a couple mountain bikers who were walking and carrying the bikes more than they were riding but with the steep drop off that was the smart thing to do.

Heart Trail We followed the new trial tread that @Jim_H reported on a couple weeks back. Definitely designed for mountain bikes and trail runners. It was like a slow burn down with long switchbacks. About two thirds of the way down, the new trail tread and the original trail cross/join, this is where we should have jumped on the original trail for the remaining way down. Since we stayed on the new trail we met the Little Elden Trail further north. Combined with the longer Heart Trail, we tacked on an additional 2.75 miles to the hike.
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Brookbank - Christmas Tree Loop via Sandy Seep, AZ 
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Started cool and refreshing on the Sandy Seep Trail #129. Then it was humid blah ascending Heart Trail #103. Which currently two criscrossing trails as it has been rerouted to an easier grade. We held to the old ankle buster route. Currently no typical signs of stay-off such as rock lined junctions, dead limbs over the old, signage, etc. In the upper portion we got lucky meeting David and Ryan!

Took a 5-minute break at the top. Even though the area is burned it is currently an intriguing color scheme and eerie spectacle. Descending was refreshingly cool!

In the burn area where Upper Oldham splits off, noticed 3ft saplings. Guessing planted? being only one year since the Museum Fire. Quick search results say 1-2 ft growth per year. Couldn't find if they grow faster when they're young, just that the taproots grow quickly. Natural or not, should help prevent erosion.

Back on Sunset Trail #23 we lunched overlooking the east. Several groups of mountain bikers paused briefly at the nearby junction. Various skills and ages, all friendly. Light sprinkles were cool for a while. Almost chili for ten seconds. No record crowds on any of the trails. Busiest on lower Elden and Fatmans.

Nice mix of trees on Christmas Tree Trail #160. Not blah as I remembered so I bumped from a 2 to 3-of-5.

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Minus the road walk due to Oldham trail closures it is a "nice" 18 mi / 4k option. Bruce negotiated some wacky traffic well, to and fro. Outta nowhere cutoff four times. The later two at once from both sides but lighter FU worthy vs the individual previous two.
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Elden Lookout Trail #4Flagstaff, AZ
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Did an Elden-Heart Loop, which was OK. Gloomy and stormy around, so I didn't try to do the little bear.

The Heart is being rebuilt, or is having a horse trail built along it. There are now multiple paths.

Lots of aspen coming up in the burn near the trail. Should be thick in a few years.

Sure hope the Tonto opens up soon. I would like to go to the Pinals, or maybe the Ancha.
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Heart Trail #103Flagstaff, AZ
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I've always liked this trail. Hiking it on Memorial Day, I saw only 2 other hikers on the actual Heart Trail, although I saw a few more on the Sandy Seep lower down, and also at the top of the ridge, where 4 or 5 other hikers had come up the Sunset Trail from Shultz Tank.

The views are great, and there were quite a few wildflowers. This kept me busy after returning home, because I didn't know the names of them all. (And I still might have erred in labeling them, so please speak up if I made a mistake.)

This was my first "real" hike in about 10 months. I was a bit worried about my left foot and right knee, which sometimes bother me going downhill, but they held up. I went slowly and took lots of breaks.
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After walking up Sandy Seep Trail, I went partway up the Heart Trail. Always a favorite of mine, because of the views and solitude, I realized I hadn't set foot on the Heart Trail for almost 4 years. It's nice to see how the Gambel Oak woodland is coming along, which grew up after the Radio Fire of 1977. There are only a few pines and junipers in this regrowth area. It's going to be a fine oak forest someday. The trees have pretty much finished leafing-out, and I could see, upslope, the aspens also have greened-up.

There were some flowers I think were phlox. I need to start carrying my actual camera, instead of just the phone. What is the plural of phlox? Phloxen? :D

But I didn't go all the way up, because I'm taking my time retraining myself for hiking. I'm deliberately keeping within about 3 to 5 miles and under 1000 feet right now.

Here's an article about the recovery of the forest after the Radio Fire: https://azdailysun.com/news/local/decad ... 9cd70.html
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trying to dodge some significant looking storms. i hiked up to the closure area. would have loved to loop around Elden and come down that way. will have to shoot for another time. looked pretty sweet up there.

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