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Park Trail #66Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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wallyfrackTriplogs 1,691
Hiking6.93 Miles 2,544 AEG
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The weather was nice. The beeves had the start of the trail tramped down but they also made their own trails so you needed to watch. The dirt was dust for a while until the cattle activity died down. The trail was a little faint with grass and vegetation growing in. The second mile starts the climb and it keeps on going. It levels some higher up but the overgrowth on the north slopes gets thick. We could have pushed through hoping it opened up again but decided to head back. The views are nice so it's a worthwhile hike. A nice area to get away from the crowd.
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Park Trail #66Payson, AZ
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I first hiked this trail 15 years ago in my late 30s. In my mid 50s it is noticeably harder. I remember that it wasn't easy before, but not this hard. I checked the triplog and I had no complaints.

Right off the bat we missed a turn on the trail and followed a cattle trail. Fortunately I caught it before we got too far and got back on track rather quickly.

The 2nd mile gets really steep right after the trail leaves the wash area. There are some loose rock areas, but it wasn't bad. After the saddle, the trail levels off a bit and makes its way in and out of side canyons. In all the shady sections, the vegetation was progressively more and more overgrown. Our theory was that the shade, being on the north facing slopes, allows the snow to sit longer and therefore water the plants more.

Once we got to being a half mile from the end, the overgrowth was too much. We were pondering trying a bit more to push past the next ridge, but it just didn't seem like it would be worth it. It was taking longer and longer as we went and it seemed like the shady sections were longer. And the hike back through it again didn't seem very enticing. I checked my triplog and track from 15 years ago and I had made it not only to FR422, but another 2 miles down past Edwards Park. There was no way we could have made it that far on this day.

The hike back down the trail wasn't all that bad as expected. The steepest part of the trail being Mile 2, going downhill was a little slow going, but not like coming down from Superstition Peak 5057, or as rocky as Y-Bar. The level part has the cow patties everywhere. On the way out we didn't see any cattle, but on the way back a group was loitering around the watering troughs giving us bad looks.
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Park Creek FallsPayson, AZ
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I covered some new ground in the Mazzies with John and Chumley Saturday. I was not sure what to expect, but the falls and hike down the canyon exceeded my expectations. I found the trail to be a pretty good too, however, that ascent will get one's attention.

The approach to the falls is not a gimmie due to the steep and relentless uphill nature of Park Trail. However, the hike and scramble down canyon was fun and engaging. There were several cascades along the way and some nice pools. We took a break at the confluence and them made our way to the main attractions. Both falls did not disappoint. The big one is a tad spooky to look over, but it has a nice ascetic despite its unphotogenic nature. The double falls are more user friendly and probably represented one of the nicest attractions of the day. After visiting the falls, we took the use trail back to the main trail and began the somewhat knee rattling descent back to our cars. We ran into a fellow HAZ user along the way, because of course you would run into another HAZ user in the bottom of a random canyon in the Mazzies. Great day out overall and perfect conditions, in spite of some heavy wind at times. It was nice to see John and his driver again.
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A few here and there.

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Park Creek FallsPayson, AZ
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Hiking7.01 Miles 2,751 AEG
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We started at 1100. Sunny and 50-60° temps. The creek at the beginning had light, pleasant flow. The first mile had 560 feet AEG and a lot of grassy overgrowth that obscured the trail, as well as numerous flower buds that have not yet bloomed. The second mile was a little steeper (900 feet AEG) and had expansive views, including some nice waterfalls off in the distance. At 2.8 miles, we could clearly hear the creek, so we left the trail and headed down, trying to avoid the thorns.

The creek was flowing great, with a series of nice cascades. We played in them a little, and they weren't as cold as expected. We ran into some more experienced HAZers at the creek, who provided valuable advice, showed their battle wounds from the catclaw, and then disavowed having ever been there.

We made our way over to the 30 foot falls, which were impressive. We climbed down and played in the pool at the bottom. We then checked out the 100 foot falls (the little that we could see from the top). We then headed back up to the trail, and down to the trailhead, which was occupied by a number of people and dogs who had set up camp there.

Overall, a beautiful day, great views, nice falls, and excellent company.
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Numerous flower buds throughout the first mile, which will be very impressive when they bloom. Scattered patches of wildflowers the rest of the way.

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Park Trail #66Payson, AZ
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Hiking8.62 Miles 2,700 AEG
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Started at 0945. The road to the trailhead was fine; any car could make it. The creek had light, pleasant flow at the first crossing. The first mile had a mild incline and a lot of overgrowth (mostly grass, some thorns). We took a wrong turn and ended up on the wrong ridgeline, which was easily corrected when it was discovered.

Throughout the second and third miles, the trail was clearly defined, moderately steep, and rocky. There were some great views. The fourth mile was mostly flat, mostly along the edge of the cliff, and a little overgrown, but still easy to follow. At 3.5 miles in, there was a 150 meter stretch of thorns blocking the trail, but we juked through them.

We reached the end of the trail, then turned back and hung out at a little water hole with a nice sandy beach, where the water was about 8 inches deep, and there were 2 sizable frogs getting it on. We then headed to the nearby waterfalls, and were disappointed, because they were only trickles. We could see the potential, but it wasn't there today. We then headed back the way we came, got scratched up a little more at the overgrown areas, and headed back to Tempe for some Thai food. We didn't take the side trip to Park Creek Falls because the creek was pretty minimal upstream so we thought it wouldn't be worth it. Some cattle were blocking the road as we headed out, but they moved out the way and posed for pictures.

Overall, it was a beautiful day and great company, but we were disappointed by the weak falls. There were no snake encounters, although we were on the alert. The trail was overgrown throughout the first mile and in parts of the fourth mile, but mostly fairly easy to follow. There were a lot of wildflowers throughout the first mile, and scattered after that. No scrambling, but it was steep and rocky throughout the second and third miles. Views were excellent. We got scratched up a bit, but we've seen worse.
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Eddy Park Play, AZ 
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Hiking8.82 Miles 3,187 AEG
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More snow, more melt, more flow. It just keeps on. 9L hadn't ever been up this way and conditions seemed right for an introduction. Flow was nice, but I've seen it much higher. No complaints as this one is enjoyable with even just a trickle. It's a lot of elevation and as spring sprungs the poor trail conditions get poorer, grassier, and snakier. Yay. :sweat:
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Edwards Park, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking8.44 Miles 3,215 AEG
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I'd been curious about how this area fared in last year's Bush Fire, knowing that parts of the Mazzies were completely decimated while others were more mildly affected. It's not an area I would typically hike at this time of year. Heat isn't really my thing. But the weather has been remarkably cool, and yesterday's rain made it seem like today would be a good opportunity to enjoy moderate temperatures and perhaps find some running water.

Surface flow is a tricky thing here in the desert. Inches of monsoon rain can get a quick burst to flow, but often ends nearly as quickly as it started. It's unlike those late winter storms that fall on saturated ground and can run for weeks. I saw many disappointed reports from hikers hoping to find water where there was little or none. For me, I made the call on checking out this trail after radar estimates showed a good swath of the southern Mazzies had received between 5-7 inches of rain yesterday . An easy stroll up Barnhardt was out of the question as the rain band hadn't gotten that far north. So I decided to stay south.

Morning was cool and humid. As thick as oatmeal. Fire damage was evident but not catastrophic. What was once already a pretty primitive trail has been obliterated by fire, erosion, and now regrowth. A keen eye kept me close to the old track through the rutted, rocky, catclawy lower reaches with only a couple of short missteps.

The climb was relentless (as always) but the scenery was worth it. Low clouds formed around the peaks as warming daytime air blew across the cool rain-soaked hillsides. A few weeks of rain has really greened things up. The route became less and less obvious and I lost the route on several occasions. Switchbacks are either well-built and a great landmark, or they're unnoticeable and the easiest source of losing the route. Can we call this one is an AZT access route and get a team on it? :sweat:

The knee-high grass had me at alert level 456. I carried trekking poles, but wouldn't have seen a snake if I stepped on one. Which I probably did. I'm just happy none of them decided to alert me or feel threatened enough to act. I've never owned snake gaiters, but hiking this trail, in this condition, at this time of year, would make them a judicious decision.

After losing 1/3 of my body weight in sweat on the humid climb, I crested the hill and heard the sound of running water. From here to Edwards Park was an overgrown thicket before the fire, and I was actually hoping that it had burned the trail clear. Well, only sort of. It wasn't as thick as before because the fire had definitely burned through this hillside. But it wasn't moonscape either, and there were plenty of new thick and prickly things. The tread was lost to post-fire erosion where it traversed moderate slopes, now covered in grass and desert scrub.

When I reached the park, I was surprised to see a clear mountain stream and not the sooty black water I had expected. I headed down in the drainage, enjoying the sights. Some remained unchanged, while others have been scarred by what was clearly some significant post-fire flooding.

I was able to downclimb double parked, but didn't venture out to see the main event. There was pretty severe burn at the top of the falls and both sides were saturated with slippery ashen soil. I was already exhausted and didn't have the energy to safely continue downstream from here. So I enjoyed a snack break before making my way back up the canyoneers route (also now nonexistent) to the 66 cut.

Down, down, down. Usually a relief, now so much more work. Grass, erosion, route-finding, uneven footing, etc. Eventually I reached the trailhead, fully defeated. I took my shoes off and sat on a rock, soaking my feet in the creek. The end to a long day.
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Park Trail #66Payson, AZ
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No plans for the day so decided to take a short morning drive, up 87, down 188, detour through Globe, then closed the loop out on the 60.

While on 188 I saw a trailhead sign so decided that would be a good place to enjoy the lunch we packed and do a little exploring. Parked off the road, opened the tailgate and enjoyed lunch in the wet desert since it had rained that AM. After lunch we strapped on the trail runners and headed down the FR to find the Park Trail #66 trailhead which wasn't that far. It was warming up so decided to just hike up the trail a short distance as a recon for a future visit. Spring looks to be a good time to enjoy this trail, especially in a wet winter when the falls are running. Will be back.
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Park Creek FallsPayson, AZ
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Hiking11.47 Miles 3,440 AEG
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I met a friend from Flagstaff at the Deer Creek Trailhead before heading down the 188. Clouds were awesome driving up the 87, and when I got to Deer Creek I hiked up about a half mile to take some pictures of the storm over Mazatzal Peak and the constant, fleeting rainbows while I waited for my friend to arrive.

We took his car to the Park Trail Th, and when we got onto fr409 the car immediately went sideways. Road's in great shape, but it was too muddy from the storms the night before. We parked on the opposite side of the 188 and walked down the road, adding about 3.5 miles.

Park Creek at the trailhead was an absolute river. Got half way across rock-hopping before taking our boots off. Park Trail is in superb shape.

Hiked up the little peak 4759 just north of the trail and watched the clouds roll over Mount Ord and the Tonto Basin. Sierra Anchas, the higher Mazatzal peaks, and the Mogollon Rim got a fresh layer of snow.

Left the trail at the drainage that leads down closest to the falls after getting up around 4800ft. Stayed east of the drainage where the mountainside was clear, but eventually worked our way down along the water.

Took a while to find a good spot to cross Park Creek above the falls. Water level was high and jumping freaked me out with white water crashing down the smooth granite toward the falls. Really the only danger was in getting wet and cold and ruining my camera. I found a spot where I could cross on submerged rocks in water a little less than knee deep. My friend and his dog simply jumped across and back.

Working down below the upper falls took time. Eventually we found a route that climbed up and then down to the lower falls. Good bushwhack, and the scrambling was more exciting on account of being slippery with wet lichen.

We worked our way onto the mountainside north of the lower falls after checking out the upper. We didn't go south of the lower falls, but I reckon the best views are from that north side.

Much faster going back having established a route. We were back on the trail within an hour. Climbed back onto 4759 one more time and soaked in the views. Great visibility, and the clear air seemed to bring out more color. Didn't see anybody except a camper at the trailhead.
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Fort Reno - Reno Pass - Cypress - Park Tr Loop, AZ 
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Hiking15.44 Miles 4,142 AEG
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Area has been on my curious horizon for many moons. Suggested this loop Sept 2016 having traveled the top with jj on Slate Creek to Browns Peak hike in 2014. Bruce suggested it back for today. Knew it wouldn't be easy. Figured it would be an itch to scratch. Rarin' to check it out regardless!

Apparently the first day of bow hunting for deer. FR 22 Sycamore/Bushnell Tanks was packed. 2 guys decked out full GQ hunt were heading up Park Trail when we arrived. Likely cursing our presence but we were headed the other way.

Camp Reno
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FR 524
This was our ticket up to the southern Mazzie backbone. Soon we encountered a cool family out hunting, glassing Daniel Spring vicinity. Bruce speaks their language so it's usually a semi entertaining encounter. He'd fit in at a tupperware party better than me too.

Humidity was brutal heading up. Reno Pass was almost as exciting as I remember from five years ago.

Cypress Peak
From the end of FR 1694 we headed off trail to the peak. Threw my pants on by chance. Boy howdy was that the right decision. It'd be a screamer in shorts. Years ago I gave this peak a 3 out of 5. Cursed the chaparral/cactus battle on hike. The views are pretty good, I love Arizona. Little interest in returning, just don't have the heart to slap a 2 on it. Great cell signal if you want to send Tibber a text!

We lunched at the top. Heading down the southside was friendlier, aka less, vegetation.

Park Trail 66
A brittle-faded carsonite stake is your trail clue off the side of FR 422. Faded ribbons and a faint trail lure you in a quarter mile. The best way to tackle the next 3/4 mi is with a bulldozer. Bruce graciously allowed me to lead. It's not horrible. Just dense brush that takes a stern push. Pants recommended. Two areas had us questioning the route of the trail. Nothing to fret.

With a semi tough day under belt we skipped the main instalike Park Creek Falls side trip. Found a winner trail snack heading down. Bite of trail mix followed by a bite of apple. Woo doggie, good stuff! The trail had better than anticipated views. Doubt many Tonto Basin locals utilize their nearby trail options.

Crossed park creek just before getting back to the trailhead. Lol, a two minute hike would have delivered a stunning view!

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Grateful to have had the opportunity to hike this loop. Swore it off repeatedly throughout the hike after seemingly never ending obstacles.
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Not much left, nor likely what most would seek in prime. Nice yellow tree in distance on rugged southern mountain side noted heading down lower half of Park Trail. Imagine spring fed being a loner. Sycamores near lower TH probably put on a decent show in the last month, just huge crispy leaves on trail now.
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Quarter mile of light daisies on upper FR524, with a hint of purple twice.
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Camp Reno - Cypress Peak - Park Trail, AZ 
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We'd been wanting to hit up this area for awhile.

The road to this TH is accessible to any vehicle with clearance higher that a Civic. All bets are off when wet.

We arrived at the TH as two bow hunters were heading up the Park Trail #66. So we headed CCW to Camp Reno on the 409.

Camp Reno was less than exciting, but that itch is scratched. Interesting History, none the less.

We gained the first chunk of elevation on the steady climb up FR524 next to the noisy Reno Creek. Water everywhere.

We turned to the south, taking FR1694 to the end. Here's where the "Fun" began. 2.5 hours to climb 1000', over 2 miles. There were a few areas the were "kinda thick". The climb up the north side of Cypress Peak, looked a little daunting, but actually went quicker than anticipated. Lunch on top showed off nice 360 views of the area.

Cypress Peak - 5952 :next: [ youtube video ]

The retreat to the South, then East was much nicer.

The Park Trail #66's upper TH would be very easy to miss w/o a track. This trail was flagged and even slightly trimmed in spots recently in the upper reaches. That ended after a bit. It's a brush push in spots and we lost it twice.

Short on time and not wanting/needing any more AEG, we skipped the side trip to the falls. Too bad, with all the water, I was looking forward to seeing them. A reason to go back I guess. The remainder of the trail was clear and in decent shape to the TH.

With all the steep up and steep down on this hike, knees were barking at the end of the day.
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Flowing quite well

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Park Creek FallsPayson, AZ
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Led a group of friends up to the well earned views that reside in the impressive canyon segment of Park Creek.
As we started I knew we would be in for a treat since the creek had well over double the flow from my last visit almost exactly three years ago.
Trail is still in great condition thanks to the cattle, hunters and hearty canyoneers one of which recently ribbon marked the upper portion of the trail.

We lucked out with such a great weather window as the majority of the day was warm, had plenty of sun and even a nice 10 minute spurt of pleasant mellow snowfall.
Aretta was kind enough to hang out with Payton above the twin falls while I led Dave and Josh down to the base of them and then to finale, PC Falls itself gushing in full glory.
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Getting the hard work done first on this hike makes for a leisurely stroll back down soaking in the expansive views of the mighty Tonto Basin that never get old.
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Poppies are really beginning to come to life along the middle section of the trail in the burn area.

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This was a somewhat exploratory 'adventure' mountain biking route a friend of mine had planned. A counter clockwise loop up Park Trail and then onto another trail, which we never made it to, due to Park being such a mess. We were loaded out for a day trip, no camping gear. We parked at El Oso road and rode our bikes a few miles north to the dirt road that leads to Park Trail. We had a GPS track from a hiker and a USGS topo map in Gaia GPS. This trail requires quite a bit of wayfinding past the saddle. The first 1/4 mile of the trail, we rode, dodging rocks and cow patties. We trimmed a few bits of cat's claw on some switchbacks. The trail was mostly clear up to the saddle. Very steep, so we pushed the bikes up as expected after that first bit. Keeping an eye out for cairns helped in a few spots where the trail was overgrown with grasses.

We made it to the saddle easily almost entirely on foot. After a short break, we set off on what looked like the trail. After a few minutes we discovered this was not the trail and walked up the hill a bit to get back on something that looked a bit more usable. Already pushing between bushes at this point and lifting bikes to get back on trail. Red flags. After making the first right hand turn to contour the hillside the trail further deteriorated and we continued pushing through bushes that encroach on the trail or completely block the trail, hoping that getting off the northern exposure would lead to less dense growth. This continued on for several hours, sapping our energy and scratching at our legs. The track we had downloaded was from a hiker - maybe he got lost as well. The USGS map helped quite a bit. When the track and USGS agreed, we made our way toward them to rejoin the sorry excuse for a trail.

GPS said .6 miles to jeep road, which would lead us out. We were determined not to walk back down the steep part of Park and pushed through, eventually climbing our way out of a tangle of bushed, up a rock and onto the trail for perhaps the fifth time! The trail emerged from the thick growth on a grassy hilltop and a view of ponds and the creek. I was able to ride about 50 yards downhill to the ponds where I filtered water and gave the feet a rest while emptying shoes of bits of grass and rocks. We found the 'trail' again and then the trail head sign. It took us about 5 hours to get to this point from the bottom. We didn't have much time to enjoy the destination as it was 3PM with sunset rapidly approaching and we had a long way to go. We enjoyed amazing views of Tonto Basin, the superstitions and sunset over the valley on the way back to the car.

We rode the jeep road to the AZT back to the base of El Oso Road in another 3.5 hours for a 32 mile loop around 9 hours. Park trail needs some work to be cleared out for a pleasant hike. The lower part needs to be re-routed for riding. If the part after the saddle was cleaned out, it could be ridden or easily hiked. The views are great and the parts of the trail we walked had good tread. Cell service is available for much of it. There are cairns on the trail, which help, but reading previous reports, someone had built cairns on alternate routes to the creek or waterfalls, so don't rely on cairns. I wouldn't wear shorts and would encourage gaiters to keep the grass out. Have fun!
 
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Took Rosie out for a little exploration. We stopped at Deer Creek TH first and started up Gold Ridge before I changed my mind. Decided I'd rather see water instead of just snow. I knew Park Creek was close and had never been so off we went. The turnoff from 188 (FR409 I think) was in great shape despite recent weather. Park Creek was raging at the TH / crossing. Park Trail was wet and muddy but well cairned and fairly clear of brush. A nice waterfall came into view shortly after gaining elevation. I could hear water at practically every turn. We didn't hit snow on the trail until about 4600ft. At the turnoff down to the upper creek / falls area snow turns to mud and quicksand while catclaw and it's friends become more numerous. I'm not one to complain but wear pants! I didn't and my legs took a beating on the off-trail parts. There's a ton of water currently. Every drainage was running and big waterfalls loomed in almost every direction. The views of Ord, Tonto Basin, the Rim and Anchas were nice as well. Temps were in the 40s and the sun was hidden most of the day. We cherished every minute of sunshine. We explored the falls area going up canyon first before heading down toward the big falls. I took a spill right before the fixed rope / dropoff. One of those quick, no time to react moments and I was on my back on a wet rock slab next to a rushing creek. Left knee and elbow took the blow. Following Chumley's route, we attempted to bypass the falls and get to a better vantage point but it wasn't happening with Rosie tagging along. I had to help her up a couple short climbs and eventually the bushwacking became too much for her. She's a trooper for enduring what she did. We settled on a sunny overlook on the hill. Both had a snack, I had a cold beverage and we soaked in all the beauty before heading back the way we came. Definitely a nice destination right now with all of the water. Lots of Deer sign but to my surprise we didn't see any wildlife other than some quail and a few other birds. I'm willing to return without the dog and see what else this place has to offer.
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Another fun day exploring in the Mazzies! Obviously was not expecting a high flow in this seasonal creek due to this constant dry weather we have been having but due to the rarity of my days off from work & this place being on my list for awhile I wanted to give it a shot! All in all it was beautiful and diverse hike that has me wanting more! The hike had some great elevation gain and gave my legs such a good burn by the time of reaching "The Pyramid". My friend and I descended into the Park Creek from the western side drainage instead of head on because I got eager when I heard water! The creek itself had great flow with surprising amounts of numerous pools that were over 5ft deep in certain areas. Unfortunately the main attraction didn't have quite the flow power to provide a waterfall that was able to capture with my iPhone camera but at least I could see it with my own eyes. I can only imagine how spectacular this place must look with a heavy flow! So much fun traversing across some very precarious ridges along the lower main falls area, truly one slip around there and you are falling into the dark abyss! Im curious if it's possible to ascend the Parker Creek Canyon from the very bottom and work your way up scrambling without technical climbing gear all the way up to the base of the main falls, anyone out there know if it's possible? While sitting at the eastern vantage view point of the lower main falls I noticed a possible route down to the base of the main falls but I did not want to risk it because my hiking partner was out of sight already.
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After lazily sitting on the couch watching football on Saturday I was happy when Joel suggested a 6-7 mile hike on Sunday. He neglected to mention the 3000 feet of gain. ](*,)

I'm not sure what the term is -- must be related to bucket list -- but different. In any case, I'm glad to get it checked off while hoping to never again have to hike in the snow through catclaw (two things that should never occur together). Add off-trail and after dark and one wonders why more people don't come here! :lol:

Ultimately, it was a fantastic day. Awesome water flow in the entire canyon. Plenty of amazing cascades, along with the incredible waterfalls downstream. I'm impressed by the canyoneer folks who rappel down this thing. It's impressive.

Love to see the water flow at this time of year. Hopefully that el nino thing happens because except for a 5-day stretch two weeks ago, it's been a whole lot of sunny.
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I've been looking for a way to loop the Bushnell Tanks, Park trail and FR422. I drew up a route on HAZ and away we went.
Fan & I started about 7:30 and the weather was very cool. We came across two hunters who had spotted a bear in the area.

Soon we were hiking down the backside of MT.Ord on FR524. We hopped off of FR524 to an old ATV trail that took us close enough to the Camp Reno. We bushwhacked around a bit before hitting the Camp Reno road. Fan took a break as I explored around Camp Reno.

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We topped off our water at the Park creek. We knew it was going to be warm climbing up in the sun.
The Park trail is no "walk in the park". The trail goes from 2,700 feet to 5,000+. There is little shade. The lower part is easy to follow. But once you get to 4,000 foot range, it changes. The tall grass hides the trail and cairns. We keep on missing the trail and bushwhacked back to it. We started to dread the HAZ split stats because we slowed down to a mile an hour!
The trail is there, it's just the tall grass increases the route finding. After a couple of hours we made it to the Edwards park. Now that is a one great park!

We headed down the AZT to a point where we bushwhacked to a series of abandoned Jeep roads that lead us back to the Jeep.

We were amazed at the amount of flowing water everywhere. The song that keep playing in my head was the "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner". The verse was “Water, water everywhere nor any drop to drink" Except it was good potable water. The 1st mile of FR22 was wet and overgrown with plants. This area got hit with a lot of rain. It looks like the road moved again.
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AKA Park Creek Falls in the hiking community.

Well a climbing trip fell thru when a partner got sick, so Michael & I fell back on this canyon as a backup. After doing Parker Canyon, we'd been talking about the flow of snow runoff down this equally amazing canyon across the lake. Susan's plans fell thru also, so she was a last minute addition than morning. Gotta love the fluidness of canyoneering! :D

With 200ft ropes & full wetsuits, we slogged up the Park trail passing a hunter with a recent kill of a beautiful bobcat. ;) The views of Tonto Basin were amazing, but we were so glad to be done climbing up the mountainside and dropping into the lightly flowing canyon. :y: Geared up, rock hopped a bit downstream, and made the first 40ft drop. A little further downstream is the amazingly HUGE ~250ft waterfall. :o The creek oddly went underground here and came out a crack in the wall about 100ft from the bottom. This is a mulit-stage rappel and the first drop is about 150ft down that slick angled chute and then head to a midway ledge on the right (looking up canyon). Once all down on the ledge, we pulled the ropes while soaking in this super sweet waterfall & rigged the anchors for another ~100ft drop into the hallway below. From this amazing waterfall, we again pulled the ropes, and made another 20ft drop into a chilly swimmer. Wow, that was flipping amazing! :D A little further downstream, we hit a second huge multi-stage drop past a series of falls & cascades. :y: It starts off with a 40ft drop past a huge chockstone to the top of the main falls, but we rappelled 100ft into a dry grotto on the rightside. That put us down to a ledge with a few options, but the quickest way is to down climb the slick flowing chute and wade another chilly pool. That was the end of the rappels, but we left the gear on until we knew we were done with the cold pools. ;) Loads of rock hopping, some more down climbing, and a few pools to try and avoid as we continued down canyon until we felt confident enough to drop the gear and put on some dry clothes. :) The canyon slowly opened up and eventually we popped out of the mountains and into the flat Tonto Basin where we got out of the rocky canyon and bushwhacked back to the TH. :sweat:

Such a great short & sweet canyon that I'm glad to have come back and caught when it was flowing on this relatively dry winter (so far). :D
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Wow, yet another amAZing canyon tucked away in the Mazatzals. :y: AKA as Park Creek Falls in the hiking world. I wanted to do a dry run down this canyon on a warm fall day to get a feel for the canyon before heading back next spring to catch it flowing from snow runoff. : rambo :

The road is looks to be recently graded so my car made it in no problem. Like Preston says, the trail receives little maintenance and is overgrown with thorny bushes as you climb 2000ft in 2 miles but nothing that my half shredded canyoneering pants & shin guards can't handle. ;) Once a little past Pyramid Peak, I bushwhacked down to the dry creek and soon reached that first day fall. The upper creekbed had a few clear pools but nothing I couldn't thankfully avoid since I didn't bring the wetsuit in order to make hauling two 200ft ropes up the mountain a tad easier. :sweat: Geared up and dropped down that first 40ft rappel to the rocky creekbed. I left the rope in place to run down and check the anchors for the big rappel #2 & after finding some interesting yet solid anchors I rock hopped back up and pulled the rope. The main falls is actually more like sloping 225-250ft drop. :o About 150ft down, there's a ledge on the left LDC with another anchor to rappel from but you need to angle that way on rappel in order to reach it. Midway down I threw the rope the rest of the way to get a feel for the length and there looked to be another 25-50ft of drop past the ropes end before reaching the hallway at the bottom. So I pulled the rope and setup from the ledge anchors and dropped another ~100ft into that super sweet hallway. There's another 20ft drop out of the hallway and another set of anchors in there also but I decided to snap some quick photos and continue on using the same anchors from above. There's a cold knee-high pool to wade and from across the way after a little bit of struggling I was able to get a good angle and make the rope pull. In hindsight, It might be best to just make the rope pull from the hallway and get an additional rappel, especially if the water is flowing descent. I gave this canyon an extra R due to this huge mulit-stage rappel and it's exhilerating enough when it's dry and can only imagine how sweet it is when it's flowing. :D A pool around the corner I avoided and then you're faced with a 3rd falls with a few different options though they might be more limited when its flowing. I found an anchor on the left side that was shreeded and easily came loose when I test pulled it :o plus it dropped down almost into a tree. So I went back to try another way and choose the middle option. I ended up build an anchor and dropping down 20ft thru a tight chute to get past that huge chockstone and found myself on top of the next set of anchors. Hmm, looks like an interesting one... I rappelled under a chockstone hanging there so that the rope pull would be easier and continued down that angled chute a good 100ft before reaching a ledge flat. Hmm, no anchors down here but it looks down climbable so I pulled the rope, scrambled down, and waded across another knee-high pool. It looked like that was the end of the technical section, as it was, but I kept the gear on in case I ran into something further down canyon. No more rappels, but I did do some light down climbing and loads & loads of rock hopping while enjoying more fall colors. :sweat: Eventually I reached a flat bench on the side of the creek that I could scramble up and made pretty good time weaving thru the brush back to the TH while enjoying the sweet view of the Tonto Basin.

Now that I know the canyon better I could prob shave an hour from todays time but I suspect that flowing water would add another hour or two on top of that. ;)
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Park Trail #66Payson, AZ
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Trail was very green and lush during the first 1/4-1/2 mile, then it starts going up quick. The climb is fairly difficult with the trail being faint in many parts. After it levels out in about 2.5 miles, you now will have to push through a lot of brush. The end at Edwards Park is not very pretty, as a fire came through the area at some point and the trees are all dead and fallen down. I can't say I recommend this one unless you like suffering for little reward (that which does not kill us, makes us stronger!)
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