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Black Cross Butte 4806 - 6 members in 9 triplogs have rated this an average 3.2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Nov 15 2023
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Black Cross Fishiness, AZ 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking16.83 Miles 4,805 AEG
Hiking16.83 Miles   7 Hrs   52 Mns   2.30 mph
4,805 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
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Completed the triplet today also, but didn't drive between three peaks, just kept walking. I thought the bushwackiness was minimal, but almost the entire hiking area I strolled through appears to have been burned fairly recently and I didn't follow the official route from the beginning. Settled into a bunch of sheep trails on many of the miles covered. Two hours to Fish Creek Peak, another hour to Black Cross Butte and four hours total to Fish Creek Mountain. From that third summit, I wasn't quite sure dropping into Fish Creek was possible, but the steep and unique ridge descent worked out. I was only cliffed out a few times and had to bypass downclimb a few times. The section of Fish Creek that I did hike has been filled with gravel and sand since I'd hiked it last September. What a beautiful canyon! Awesome Arizona Sycamores, Cottonwoods, giant Saguaros, caves and boulders. I also chose the Lost Dutch exit to Tortilla instead of Fish Creek Canyon since I plan on hiking that another time soon.
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 Joined Jan 28 2010
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Black Cross Butte 4806Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 12 2018
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Hiking5.67 Miles 3,188 AEG
Hiking5.67 Miles   8 Hrs   48 Mns   0.90 mph
3,188 ft AEG   2 Hrs   32 Mns Break
 
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I consider this hike a “Big Boy/Big Girl” hike, and since I believe I’m just a “Medium Boy” hiker, this one was quite the challenge. The distance and AEG were no problem.
However, I spent half my time trying to determine how to go around or through some very nasty vegetation.

There are three “gaps in ridge-lines” to climb up through, before you get the privilege to actually hike up Black Cross Butte 4806. Each gap is laden with thick brush. Then there’s a wash you must cross, that has almost impenetrable vegetation on both sides. It seemed like the shrubs near the wash were locked together. It was like going through a maze of thick, wooden spiderwebs. All this made the hike very slow going for this Medium Boy hiker.

Once I finally got to the base of 4806, the climb up was a bit steep, but nothing out of the ordinary. It actually was a relief.

Black Cross Triangulation Station lives on the Butte, and so does its reference mark #1. Someone decided to rip out and remove RM #2, and take it home.
I re-erected the wooden Height of Light over the station, to let it pretend it was 1946 again.

The location of Black Cross Azimuth Mark is a tease.
You come across the azimuth disk only 1 mile into the hike, and before the heavy brush shows up. You might think you’re almost there, time wise.
In a straight line, the azimuth mark is also only about 1 mile away from the top of 4804, but you’d need a “reverse” zip-line to get there in a straight line. Hiking an arc through the three gaps is probably the best and safest route to get to the base of 4806.

The plant of the day, that administers pain, was agave. They’re all over the place. Very few prickly pear or cholla etc, made the scene.

My hike back down was a tad easier, as I could more easily see and determine the “least thick, of the thick” areas to maneuver through.

Even with the above mentioned “plant” adversity, the hike and the area are winners. The visual ruggedness of this whole area is quite a treat for the eyes, and actually made this hike worth the effort.
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Feb 22 2014
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BCB 4806 - Fish Peak Loop & BCB 3351, AZ 
BCB 4806 - Fish Peak Loop & BCB 3351, AZ
 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking8.80 Miles 4,600 AEG
Hiking8.80 Miles   9 Hrs   30 Mns   1.04 mph
4,600 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break12 LBS Pack
 
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Last week I mentioned one of my favorites near SRC. Unfamiliar with the area Bruce sent back a hike ( option A ) he would unlikely willingly attempt if he knew the terrain. Clinging onto a myth of hope I responded I'd be ecstatic to jump on option A. Yet had to be honest. Instead of describing the difficulty of a couple segments I touched on the mundane aspect of one long stretch. The long stretch could be fascinating @ 72 degrees with puffy clouds floating to and fro. On the same token it feels like you are in WTF land @ 85 if tired and cranky.

With that I suggested two other options ( options B & C ). Both of which should fill up 2/3rds of a day. Please understand, throw out anything too large ( in his mind ) it gets cut off at the throat.

Why not both... the response. Imagine that. Hook, line & sinker... ha ha. Just kidding, that scenario never entered my mind. Option C was flexible and could be a 2, 4 or 6 hour jaunt.

Denny & LP made an appearance and we were off like a herd of turtles heading up to BCB 4806. We worked the standard cairned route up to the break. Then followed the inner ridge out east planning on the full circle ridge to BCB 4806. One look at the task at hand sent the trail architects back to the drafting table.

4806 went down without out trouble. We did notice the circle ridgeline looks very doable and should offer up stellar views. Someday I'll get that opportunity. Hopefully it never happens. I fear once tackled the fever to return will subside.

We journeyed down the ridgeline to Fish Creek Peak 3910. Rather easy. LP had ambitions of tagging 3910 then returning to finish the circle ridge. While certainly doable, the terrain, even though nothing technical, wears your mind down quicker than miles or aeg.

On the SE corner of 3910 is a good slot to ascend. Currently just one agave to hurdle. Fair holds in the crumbly rock and little chance of mishap. Other slots looked more exciting for those interested.

Heading back down to Lewis and Pranty Denny slipped landing on an Ocotillo. The thorns on that bad boy went from two inches at the base down to an inch further out. He never whimpered. The situation looked bad yet it didn't bleed as much as imagined. He brushed it off and we carried on.

With a few hours of light we opted to just hit BCB 3351. There wasn't enough time or energy to go beyond cairns.

4 quarts carried, 2 consumed. Found a horseshoe on the first loop. For reference have found them on route to 3042 and above Skeleten Cave in the past.
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Feb 22 2014
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BCB 4806 - Fish Peak Loop & BCB 3351, AZ 
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Fun beautiful hike with great company. See the other's triplogs (Joe's anyway) for details. :)
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Feb 22 2014
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Black Cross Butte 4806 - Fish Creek Peak Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking7.19 Miles 3,717 AEG
Hiking7.19 Miles   7 Hrs   35 Mns   1.07 mph
3,717 ft AEG      50 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
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Collaborative effort to put this one together. Joe suggested the area and laid the framework and I put together the loop track. Long Play and TT joined us to make up the foursome. Perfect weather all around on this one. If you are one that likes to follow a trail, this is not for you. It's all bushwhacking and whacking bushes. Climbing starts right out of the gait.

When you reach the first saddle .75 miles in you reach the pointer showing you your target http://hikearizona.com/photo=396770. We chose to head east before climbing to minimize some of the real thick stuff. The lanscape was just incredible.

There were two main areas that you had to physically beast through. Both are in the wash that runs to the north of the peaks.

Every time I head out to the Supes and climb to the top of a new area, I see somewhere else that I NEED to go to. At the top of Black Cross Butte 4806 I have some more ideas.....
Kinda nice that you can see both Apache and Canyon Lakes from up there.

The route from BCB 4806 to Fish Creek Peak worked out great. Nothing hard at all. Joe choose to scale the Eastern face of the peak; John, Denny, and I choose the SW approach, which was a little more ramp like. Great views of Upper Fish Creek, Tortilla Peak and more.

http://youtu.be/aRTCjhHS1hs


This was a day of "Top That" between me and Denny.
Denny drove a cactus needle into the top of a toe. Extraction caused a good spurt of blood.
Denny's up.
I get a 1/2" long needle embedded completely under the skin on the back of my hand. I had to make it "Stand Up" so Denny could tweezer it out. The geyser followed.
Bruce up
With the truck in sight, Denny slips going downhill and falls hard. When he got up I noticed the Ocotillo spring away from his face revealing one side of his face bleeding a bit (OK...more than a bit), way to close to his eye... He was lucky, and wins.


Great to hike with John Zeppelin and Tommy Turtle again.
Joe always keeps it interesting...
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Black Cross Butte 4806 - Fish Creek Peak Loop, AZ 
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I enjoyed this one. It was off trail but the views from the two peaks were great. There were a couple rough areas but it went pretty good. Joe found an antler and a horseshoe. The luck was with him. Bruce and I shed a little blood. It was slow going but the boys made it entertaining. Great hike, weather, and company.

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Black Cross Butte 4806Globe, AZ
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking4.80 Miles 2,864 AEG
Hiking4.80 Miles   6 Hrs   40 Mns   0.72 mph
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We started out in 51 degree temps but it felt bitter cold. With more layers than I've ever worn we headed up. This being my third attempt I knew the first half very well. Up to the saddle I let Bob decide on our route after explaining the options. He choose the direct route. Off we went. This proved to be an excellent choice!

Going up seemed to be much easier than anticipated. The views are nice but they can't touch what Malapais has to offer so I rated this hike a 4 as Malapais is a definite 5.

Heading down the tables turned. What seemed easy going up proved painful on the reverse. Bob showed me a shortcut I pray I never have to live through again. It was basically a torture chamber of bushwhacking. Luckily it was short lived and all worked out!

Near the arch I found in 2003 I spotted a more subtle arch too. Bob spotted a marker pointing to BCB 4806 on a saddle of sorts by a HUGE cairn. It seemed really out of place 0.85 direct air miles away. However I guess the saddle is the natural line of travel so it makes sense in that regards.

This is one hike I'm glad to have completed after two other failed attempts. On the same note, I do not want to go back any time soon. Coming down really zonked me out. Looking at TOPO! at home I think we should have explored over a little more. The unofficial high points "appear" fifty feet higher and possibly offer more stunning dropping views... to be continued (in like ten years)

The GPS Route for this hike introduces notes along the route. It should roll out soon, it's still under development.

The video isn't that great. Bob does have a nice agave throw.
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This was a pleasant hike. I actually relaxed on the peak knowing it was the only peak of the day. We started when it was light out, and I made it home before dinner. :)
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Hiking4.70 Miles 2,690 AEG
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For some reason my friend Mark got a bug up his butt about wanting to hit this peak right about the time we did Bronco Butte across the street, but it took us almost a year to get out and satisfy his itch. If there's a survey monument to be found, I'm always game, so we set out before dawn to get an early start at the trailhead (Fish Creek Hill in the dark was fun!). We followed as best we could the survey party's route description, which eventually got us up to where we could see our target and from there we knew what to do. Along the way we found the survey azimuth mark (marked by a large cairn) at N 33? 31' 40.1" W 111? 16' 47.0" which made a nice spot for a break.

We brute forced our way up to the peak from there, and enjoyed the views and lunch. Unfortunately I set my pack down on top of my bite valve, which was open, and didn't notice the puddle forming until the bladder was nearly empty. Mark graciously refilled me with half of his remaining water, but it turned out not to be enough and the trip down for me was a painful mess of cramps and breaks to relieve them.
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