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Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.14 Miles 3,255 AEG
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Black and New River Mesas, AZ 
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Hiking12.06 Miles 3,449 AEG
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It's been awhile, so off to Spur Cross. It'd been almost 10 years to the day that I last hiked this with @Tortoise_Hiker.
Remembering the rocky conditions, I pondered my choices for footwear. The worn out Salomon's, the new but lighter Asics, or new, heavier, but more sturdy Adidas. The Adidas were the correct choice.

47 degrees o start with a calm wind. I was shocked to be only the 4th car in the lot at 7:30ish. Spur Cross -> Tortuga -> Elephant Mountain Trail. Not much has changed here. Easy to follow and hike roads turning to trails.

Once off of Elephant Mountain Trail the trail gets thinner and thinner to the Black Mesa summit. There are cairns most of the way, but the tall grass covers up both the Rock Cairns and the plain ole' hidden rocks. I call them volcanic grapefruit. Those are the ones that play havoc on your ankles.

Up top on Black Mesa, I made my way over to New River Mesa to check it out. On the east rim I found the set of glymphs with various ancient vandalism carved into them, as well as a grinding slick.

I made my way south across Black Mesa, kicking up a white tail. The plan was to exit down south ridgeline towards Sugarloaf Mountain. Part way down I got cliffed out and pondered my choices. Going farther to the west looks like it MIGHT have worked out, but being solo (and an old fart) I opted for the downclimb farther to the East. It was still a steep, slippery and slow off trail down climb.

I ultimately hopped into a canyon/wash that ran into the Elephant Mountain Trail.

I was a little warm at the end of the day with full sun and no breeze. I think I'm done with Black Mesa for another 10 years.
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 Mesa, AZ
Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.07 Miles 3,282 AEG
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This hike is a beast, but I was up for it. I had planned to do this a few weeks earlier, but the recent triplogs made me put it off. This weekend was the one I planned for later. The heat in the forecast had me questioning my decision, but I decided to pack some extra water. I figured between the early start and the higher elevation, the heat wouldn't be an issue. It wasn't, although I did drink a full 180 oz of water during this.

I did this hike the last time in the fall of 2005, actually in September. I remember being so spent when I got to the top that I never hiked across the top of the mesa at all. I think the trail is fainter along the west side on the final push to the top, but I'm not really sure.

Once you get past the turnoff for going over the saddle of Elephant Mountain, that's where the hike starts to get real. You're so much closer to the top, but when you look at it, it still seems a ways away, and it is. And this is where the loose lava rock starts to take over, which makes things worse.

After the junction with the trail that takes you to Rondo Spring, the trails dips a bit before the big climb. There used to be a rock or a sign (or both) at this junction. I didn't see it this time. There is a kind of a gate through the barbed wire fence there. i missed the junction on my way up, but saw it on my way back. There are few level spots west of Black Mesa that give you a chance to catch your breath a bit. Then the final push comes. Just before the last final push, I spotted 3 whitetail deer (who spotted me first) that were taking off up the side of Black Mesa and to the south. It was amazing to see how much elevation they could gain so quickly leaping over the loose rock and thorny vegetation. The cliche of "run like a deer" never seemed more appropriate.

the final push to the top was very steep and the trail is very hard to follow. It seems like there's a second trail that has formed a braid from people perhapsh unknowingly cutting switchbacks. This part of the hike required that you look ahead to see where the trail goes (or switches back), look at the ground at the same time to make sure you don't loose your footing, and also constantly check your GPS (or RouteScout) to see if you're still on track. Numerous steps here involved hitting a loose rock that rolled under my foot.

At the top this time I hiked to the south, originally with the intent of making the loop around the top of the mesa and returning on the faint trail. At the south end of the mesa there are the best views to the east of Skull Mesa and the valley between the 2 mesas. Once I got to the south end of the mesa, I spotted the ridge there down towards the trail. That seemed like a very doable route. the trail up was so steep that I don't think this route was any worse. I think I saved some time for sure this way even though it was slow going at times. the descent at the very top was slow since it was rocky. After that, it got less rocky and less steep, although at times the amount of loose lava rock seemed to increase enough that constant attention had to paid in order to not wipe out.

finally got on the actual trail, which wasn't a whole lot easier to hike downhill than the bushwhack, then back to the park trails, which took less time. Saw a few hikers the closer I got to the parking lot, but not a whole lot. Warm temps seem to be keeping people away. Stark contrast from a year earlier when every park was pack since all the gyms were closed. Felt the heat more at the bottom, which I expected, better than on the way up.

My plantar faciitis did not bother me nearly as much on this hike as it did the last 3. Switched out the orthotics in my hiking boots this time which seems to have made a world of difference. Nice to finish up such a big hike with a minimum of pain during and after, especially in middle age. :D
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Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking9.44 Miles 2,500 AEG
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Follow the Elephant Mountain trail to, maybe 1/4 mile from the closed trail to Indian ruins. Here, you will see a trail sign showing the trail continuing to Elephant Mountain. Turn right at that sign. The trail may not be evident but is there and will become clear as you trek on.

At about 1/2 mile after you join the Black Mesa trail, you will see a rock with directions carved in. Merely keep straight.

When we reached the 4.6-mile mark, we built several cairns to help transverse the meadow. Unless, the cairns have been torn down, you should be able to see the next cairn from the one you’re at.

Please take this hike and help create a clear track. This will help all of us.

When you look back from the high meadow you will look down on Elephant Mountain. It’s an amazing view and a great place to sit, have lunch and just unwind for a while.

The meadow is really green and pretty.
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Feb 01 2020
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Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.00 Miles 3,300 AEG
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I picked this hike because it was an on trail hike in an area that I have never been to that I felt would be interesting to hike and suitable for a meetup for Arizona Strong group. Though parts of the trail are difficult to follow after the fence, the hike ended up being far better than expected. Summit views were really great, and distances reached as far as the Easgletails, Bighorn, Harquahala, the Mogollon Rim, Sierra Ancha, Catalinas and I think Ragged Top or something out near the Silver Bells, as well as Table Top, plus the usual Valley ranges, peaks, and landforms. The exciting 303 was incredible! Dave joined me and it was an nice hike. I like this area, even if it is a little hard to get to for me. Cave Creek is rather attractive, as well. Can't wait to hike Pine Mountain Verde Rim this year, and I might like to summit some of the other high points up here, like the New Water Mountain HP.
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Black Mesa and New River Mesa, AZ 
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Hiking13.40 Miles 3,766 AEG
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I had been out to Spur Cross in almost a year, and I got Tracie the Intrepid to join me on a hike to Black Mesa and New River Mesa. We had never been to either one, and we were looking for a couple of summits to bag, so off we went.

From the Spur Cross TH, in sequence we went on the Spur Cross Trail, then the Tortuga Trail, and then the Elephant Mountain Trail. After about 3 miles we got into the Tonto National Forest and followed a use trail most of the way to Black Mesa. We then went off-trail up to the top of the mesa, and made our way to the high point where we saw a benchmark disc and a reference marker. We then headed north across Black Mesa and made our way to New River Mesa, where we hit the New River Mesa highpoint.

There was a burned area between the 2 mesa that must have burned in the not-to-distant past: we could still see some ashes and smell the charred wood.

On top of New River Mesa we came across a few petroglyphs.

We then basically returned the same way that we came. There was a lot of lava rock to deal with on the hike, which made the descent much slower than it otherwise would have been. On the plus side, hiking atop the 2 mesas wasn't too bad, and was much easier than being on top of Skull Mesa.

We saw a white-tailed deer as we got near Black Mesa; other than a few birds, that was the extent of the wildlife that we saw.

It was a good day to be outside, but his hike is probably one-and-done for me: I didn't enjoy the tread all that much.
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Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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Quick urban hike at Spur Cross. Neither of us wanted to drive much so we decided to hike Black Mesa. Starting on the trail to Elephant Butte we turned at the junction and headed over to Black Mesa. From there the trail gets more difficult to follow especially the closer we got to Black Mesa. Approaching the summit we went off trail the last part to the summit and had nice lunch break with a view! After lunch we followed the actual trail off the summit and back to the Limestone Spring junction. Then followed that loop past the spring which was dry and down to Spur Cross Trail. From there it was fast 2 miles back to the parking lot.
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Heather, Ben, and I hiked from the Spur Cross Trailhead to Black Mesa on Friday. From there we hiked over to New River Mesa and then returned the way we came.

I had last done this hike in December of 2014. On that day, we encountered waist-high grass which prevented us from seeing the cairns. We probably would not have figured it out without the aid of a GPS track. On Friday's hike, the grass which was a problem back in 2014 was quite a lot shorter. We could see the cairns and we didn't have to goosestep in order to push the grass down.

All in all, the hike was a lot more straightforward this time and we made good time getting to the top of Black Mesa. There was usually a path to follow and cairns when there weren't. Even so, having the GPS track made things easier, especially for figuring out where to start for the final ascent to the top of Black Mesa.

Speaking of which, I used JuanJaimeiii's route because it also went over to New River Mesa. I had not been to New River Mesa before. Once you're on top of Black Mesa, New River Mesa is only a short ways away, plus if you're gonna hike about 12 miles, you might as well go for 13. I hiked a short ways ENE from the southern tip of the mesa, took a few pictures, and then rejoined my hiking companions who had stopped to eat lunch.

On our way back we saw a momma mule deer with her young one. I got a photo of the young deer.
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Hiked out to see the plane wreckage that Oregon_Hiker reported on in 2012. Most of the parts we found were in the ravine, only found 2 pieces on the ridge. From the site we headed east and connected with trail 48. Along the way we found a stack of stones although it looked to be built more recently, and we also made a visual on the Cement Spring trough. Enjoyed the hike, weather was great, and got to check out some interesting areas.
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Both top and bottom troughs were full with a nice flow from the pipe.
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Do not do this hike in trail runners, cactus spines go right through the sides of them. There are only occasional hints of a trail once you reach the grassy part, and prickly pear likes to hide below the grass so it's hard to see. Sparsely placed cairns help, but there were some sections that had none (or I was far enough off 'trail' to miss them). I would not recommend doing this trail unless you have a GPS w/ track or are very comfortable blazing your own trail. It's an excellent workout, though, with great views from several points on the way.
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Black Mesa - Cave Creek Explore, AZ 
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Hiking11.38 Miles 2,921 AEG
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This was another hike to search for evidence of ancient Indian habitation on the high hillside benches above Cave Creek. My destination was a bench protruding from the southwest side of Black Mesa which overlooks both Cave Creek Canyon and the Cline Creek drainage to the west of Cave Creek Canyon. I could have accessed this bench from the Cline Creek side and possibly shortened the length of the hike but it would have been completely off trail from that approach. Instead I chose to hike from the Spur Cross trailhead on the Black Mesa - Cave Creek trail, hence the name for this hike. I did not hike to the top of Black Mesa.

My hike followed the Black Mesa-Cave Creek trail for 4 miles to where I started off-trail to the top of the ridge which forms the southwest edge of the bench and looked like a likely location for hilltop ruins. This ridge top looks down on the Cline Creek drainage, an area I had recently searched for Indian ruins with some success. (See my three Cline Creek Meander triplogs from 2/22/16, 2/25/16, 3/01/16) The ridge top was covered with clumps of banana yuca which were all in various stages of blooming making some very picturesque scenery. After following the ridge top for 0.4 miles I found the first ruin. As usual, it was just a pile of collapsed rock walls and appeared to have had only one or two rooms. Pottery sherds scattered outside the walls gave some assurance that it was an Indian ruin. This ruin was unique in that it had been built with red stones. This was the first of 7 ruins sites I found on this high bench. All were small, the largest may have had as many as four rooms, and all had pottery sherds scattered nearby. Perhaps these had been seasonal field houses for tending dry land crops on the high bench during the rainy season.

As I continued my search I kept seeing more areas on this bench that looked promising for ruin locations. As a result I ended up extending my stay beyond the planned stop time. My excuse was that I would connect up with the Black Mesa trail which passed through the center of the bench and would give me a quicker exit route. That was not the case. The trail across the bench is rendered invisible by ankle deep grass hiding grapefruit sized rocks which attempt to twist your ankle at every step. However I made up for lost time on the lower part of the trail which is in better shape and got back to the parking lot just as it was getting dark. Another successful day of ruin hunting in the springtime beauty of the desert foothills north of Phoenix.
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Lots of blooming Brittlebush and blooming banana yuca.
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Nov 11 2015
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Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.94 Miles 3,556 AEG
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Once past the Maricopa County Park line this one requires a keen eye and good route finding skills. Either that or a trusty GPS.

The trail fades in and out with the grass being overgrown in most areas. It is also critical to watch out for those pesky Prickly Pear Cactus as they are hiding in the brush just waiting to put the hurts on you.

I was lucky this trip and avoided any mishaps. Views from Black Mesa are fantastic and after taking them in I headed over to take a quick look at New River Mesa.

Fun trip and perfect weather.
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Spur Cross to Rondo Spring, AZ 
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Needed to get out there but got a late start so headed to Spur Cross Park. The large parking lot was almost full at 11 am. Spotted a HAZ decal on a FJ Cruiser parked nearby. I hot footed it up to the saddle near Rondo Spring hoping to have some time to snoop around for Indian Ruins but didn't really have enough time. I ended up settling for checking out a hilltop overlooking Rondo Spring for a fortress type ruin that's supposed to be in this area but no luck. The hilltop was a nice place for lunch - big boulder to sit on out of the wind and some good views. On the way back I snooped around in a dry wash looking for an old cement water trough that was shown in a 1992 hand markup of a topo map of the area. Found the water trough in the bottom of the wash about 45 yds upstream from the trail crossing - it was dry. Got back to the parking lot just as the owner of the HAZ ride showed up. He and his buddy were finishing up an overnight backpack down CC#4 from Seven Springs. Yakked it up for a few minutes about all the off-road mods he had made to his FJ and then headed for home.
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I had some rare weekend time for a hike, so despite the weather I opted for a good one. Started off from the Spur Cross TH at 7:30 after the rain had finished, but with fog all around. The trail was muddy but not too bad, travel went pretty well until I reached the Tonto Forest boundary. From here, the trail became much more faint to non-existent in some parts. All of the fall rain we got back in September led to a huge flush from the annual weeds. Many stretches of the hike were off trail, or might as well have been. Needless to say, my boots were completely soaked about an hour into this hike, not from rain, but all the moisture that came off the plants I was bushwhacking through. Thankfully most of the brush was thorn free, although I did have to keep on the lookout for cholla. With fog looming all morning, views were limited, but that can lead to some enjoyment in itself. Things really got hazy as I started up the switchbacks to the mesa, I could not actually see Black Mesa until I was on it. Views from the top were pretty limited, so I just explored around a short bit and headed back. The clouds opened up a bit on the way back so I could get a few views of the city. This was a really fun hike, definitely slower than my usual pace but considering the brush and conditions, not too bad. Well worth doing again!
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Hiking12.43 Miles 3,490 AEG
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This out-and-back hike consists of roads, ‘good’ trails, rock-filled trail sections, and ….. ’no-sign-of-a-trail’ …. trails. The road portion is short (mostly rock-filled), the ‘good’ trails are good, and the rock filled trail sections are a podiatrist’s financial bonanza.

A few washes have to be crossed, with one wash having such steep walls that steps have been made. Those steps (up) are alot of ‘fun’ on the hike back. :(
The second half of the hike to Black Mesa had the disappearing trail sections that required a bit of route finding, with tall grass obscuring some cairns closer to the mountain. This is no big deal though, as you’re moving across a rather flat area just west of Black Mesa at that time.
All in all a good hike, with the last 400 Ft to the top of the mesa being very steep with tight switchbacks.

There’s a benchmark (MESA) on Black Mesa, plus two reference marks, that I wanted to find. All three were easily found in rock outcrops. The datasheet from the original surveyors (1924) stated the benchmark location was, “on the extreme southeasterly and highest point of New River Mesa, which has a very flat top with steep malpais slopes on all sides.”
Future surveyors also called Black Mesa by the name of the mesa to the north, New River Mesa. This is understandable, as the two ‘mesas’ are only 1/4 mile apart, separated only by a small, shallow saddle that is easily hiked.

The 1946 surveyors went up with horses from the Spur Cross Ranch and essentially used the same route we use today. They’re the ones that set down the two reference marks. They also set an azimuth mark near the original Spur Cross Ranch, which has subsequently disappeared, with only its bore hole and cement remnants left. Subsequent surveyors established a second azimuth mark to the west, near the town of New river.

The rock-filled sections of the hike (there are many) made for a slower pace than normal, as deliberate foot placement was needed to prevent foot and ankle issues. It was tough trying to keep a normal hiking stride for any length of time in those areas.

The top of the mesa reminds me of an extremely oversized (and overgrown) Flatiron, gradually sloping up and narrowing, to the south. Prickly pears are abundant on the mesa and some evidence of the 2004 fire can still be seen.
The bright yellow car tire (as reported in previous photo sets) is still up there, but now it’s in a tree. Someone must have won the ‘ring-toss’ game. :)
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The trail up to Elephant Mountain was enjoyable. The initial down from the trailhead had multiple built in stairs for your hiking pleasure. We hit the intersection with the trail over to Black Mesa, from that intersection up to the saddle, the trail is easy to climb but gets your blood pumping. At the saddle, the Elephant Mountain trail heads down. To the left, is an obvious trail but a sign saying the trail is closed. We headed to the right, where the trail is very faint and no closure sign. Initially we were just heading up and avoiding shin stickers and other prickly plants. Then we headed around a rock outcrop. The ground was slippery and there weren't many sturdy plants to grab onto. On the other side of the rock outcrop you need to head up to a saddle of sorts. I climbed up this using my hands and feet and sometimes on my hands and knees. Most rocks gave way as I stepped on them, and most bushes weren't able to hold me either. Then we went across a ridgeline that had great views and was easier to navigate. Then you need to scramble up some larger rocks to get to the summit. I went a little ways but my nerves got the better of me. I told Karl to go on ahead and I would head back down. It is a doable climb but I am very slow and timid in these situations and I didn't want to waste too much time when Black Mesa was our real goal. I slid down two separate sections on my bum, like it was a waterslide. I did wonder if I was making Karl's journey down more difficult, since I was wiping everything out! I needn't have worried since the Billy Goat beat me down to the Elephant Trail intersection, anyway! I don't know how he does it! Karl said I was 300-400 feet from the summit when I turned into a buttercup.

Then we started our Black Mesa mission. I am lucky, I just follow Karl and his navigation. The trail is all those big fist size rocks that beat up your feet. The trail loops around the Mesa and switch backs up to the top. The upward grind doesn't feel too bad, you just need to watch your feet so you don't twist an ankle on a loose rock. We had a leisurely lunch on top and Karl taught me all about the inversion layer.

Back down we went and then took a turn onto the Limestone Trail. We took a little time to check out the springs and sat a bit at Page but we were ready to get home for some playoffs.

I probably wouldn't do Black Mesa again. Maybe doing Skull Mesa with it's feet friendly trails and killer views the week before made me biased.
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Black Mesa Limestone Loop - Cave Creek, AZ 
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Hiking16.13 Miles 4,743 AEG
Hiking16.13 Miles   9 Hrs   38 Mns   1.99 mph
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The goal for the day was Black Mesa but also wanted to climb Elephant Mountain. We started from Spur Cross and headed across Cave Creek and over to the Elephant Mountain trail to the saddle below the summit. From there we found a faint route on the ridgeline which soon turns into a bushwhack the further up you go. Decent views on the summit but didn't stay long as we still had to climb Black mesa.

The Black Mesa trail starts on the ridgeline between Elephant Mountain and Black Mesa. From there the trail is faint in many spots but the cairns along the route made it relatively easy to stay on track. The climb up is pretty gradual except for the very top section. Once on top had a nice lunch and took in the views which were not as impressive as Skull Mesa that we did last week.

Hiked back down Black Mesa the same way we came up but at the Limestone Trail turnoff we opted to take the slightly longer loop and check out Limestone Spring and Page Spring. Both springs were in good shape with concrete box full of clear water in case you needed to filter. Took a break at Page Spring for a bit and then headed down to the main trail in Cave Creek. Some water in Cave Creek but only on the upper sections.
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Jan 05 2014
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Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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Some friends had been suggesting we try Black Mesa. The planets aligned and today was the day.

To put a little different twist on things and to make some of the logistics easier, we came in from the West via the little used Rondo Springs Trail (HAZ description to be added soon). Our Jeep and their Razor took us on some rocky roads on State Trust Land to our jumping off point. In the cool morning Black Mesa loomed ahead seemingly far away and very very high. We set off in good spirits with a nice pace. The Rondo Springs Trail varies from sandy washes to loose rocky footing. But we quickly made it Rondo Springs and enjoyed the long used desert oasis.

Then began the long climb. From the Springs we headed left (north) up to visit the Turtle who points the way to many places, Black Mesa among them. The trail up to BM is little used and can be difficult to follow. Some cairns along the way help, but luckily I had the trail copied onto my GPS' maps. Plus I like to think I can track a field mouse across bare slick rock. We did have to find our way back onto the trail a few times. But we never got lost. Even saw a very nice deer bounding away from us ever so gracefully.

We cut off some of the published routing when the trail became indistinguishable from the surrounding rocky cactus laden ground and just pointed ourselves uphill. Everyone was quite winded by the time we made the summit. But the views were worth the effort. Could even see the Mogollon Rim very clearly to the north.

Lunched at the top, took the obligatory photos, located both a geocache and USGS benchmark before working our way back down.

The return was uneventful except for a spill that resulted in a minor wrist sprain. Another good day above ground!
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WHEW! What a hike! I had tried to do this hike a few months ago but I missed the turn. So today, with better knowledge, I gave it another go. I hit the trail a little after 8am with Black Mesa in my sights. I came close to making the same mistake as my first attempt. I got to the the point where I made my mistake the first time (I went straight at the dome shaped metal feeder the first time). This time I noticed the trail heading west from the feeder. I took that about 50 yards to the first directional rock. At this time the trail splits, one heading west up a hill and the other north. Unfortunately, this rock does not mention Black Mesa so I wasn't sure which trail to take. I took the one heading north toward Black Mesa. However, I soon realized that this brought me back to the trail I did a few months ago. I backtracked and took the trail heading west toward Rondo Springs. This trail eventually led to a gated fence and the next directional rock. The rock pointed to a trail heading west that went to Rondo Springs and to another trail heading north that went to Black Mesa and to New River Mesa. (Question: has anyone gone to Rondo Springs? there are no triplogs regarding this trail and I have not seen it mentioned in any other write ups).

This is where it starts getting fun. For the first mile the trail was fairly evident as it parallels the fence that I just past through. Eventually the trail reached a hill that took me up to a saddle. This part of the hike was probably the worse with "trying to stay on trail". The trail, which had been visible up until this hill became much fainter amongst all the fist sized rocks that composed the hill. There were cairns peppered across the hill to help keep me on trail. But a few times I think I missed a switchback as I focused on a cairn farther up the trail. The going was slow because of the rocky trail, the periodic overgrowth and the need to search out the next cairn. From the saddle I climbed to a plateau, several hundred feet below Black Mesa, that gave me my first good look to west side. From here the trail got easy to follow again. The trail crosses the plateau, going around a hill and taking me to the NW corner of the mesa to begin the final ascent. The final climb involved a number of switchbacks, some portions rather steep that brought me to the top of the mesa. There were a couple of cairns at the top which came in handy for the return trip when I needed to find the trail for my descent. At the top, there was no trail. I wandered around the top for a bit. I found the two survey markers at the high point of the mesa, along with several wooden planks, but I did not see any trail heading over to the mesa just to the north. (I assume the mesa just to the north is New River Mesa. The directional rock mentioned this mesa so I thought there might be a trail heading there, but if there was I did not see it).

The return trip was nice because it was mainly downhill . But the going was still slow due to the condition of the trail. I managed to get off trail a few times but with some cairn searching got back on. When I got back to the Elephant Trail I saw and HEARD a couple of "yahoos" shooting shotguns. I could see them on a ridge several 100 yards away. I'm sure they were on the Tonto side, but they had to be close to the border and it sure looked like they were shooting into the preserve :( On the way out I took the Tortuga back, making a small loop with the Spur Cross. It wasn't until this time that I saw my first hikers for the day. Didn't see any wildlife. Over all great hike though my mph is now shot for the year ;) . Be interested in doing the Rondo Springs Trail sometime.
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Black Mesa - Cave CreekPhoenix, AZ
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My first hike to Black Mesa. Probably not the best May hike. The heat wasn't unbearable, but the gnats and foxtail were. Not sure I've ever been in worse gnats. The trail is very rocky the last two miles in to the mesa. Other than that it is a nice hike. Nice views. Saw a White Tailed deer and a Gila Monster. I was hoping to see some snakes, but no luck. Took a wrong turn at one of the splits - can't follow my own directions. Other right. No sign of anyone going up on the mesa recently. Parts of the upper trail are hard to follow. Hard to see through the grass and rocks. Overall the trail is well cairned and you can find your way with a little looking around for the next cairn.
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