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Copper Mtn Points - Lower/UpperGlobe, AZ
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Lower Copper Mountain Points Canyon > FR693 > FR236
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Just below the second good parking spot on FR236A there's a signed FR667 (definite HC in a handful of spots, not van friendly unless someone moved a few rocks) that heads towards Greenback Creek and a quite nice large shaded campsite. A trail continues on to a gate, which leads to the nearby tank, then cow paths to FR236 (4WD) through what looks to be an old orchard and some catclaw.

We followed FR236 up past a little pullout with a few fire rings and nice views, and cut off of it when we crossed the dry creekbed of the lower canyon. This provided a quite nice HC 2WD route.

The creekbed itself was quite possibly the most pleasant of the rocky creekbeds in the area - wide and shaded with very few obstacles and stable rocks that weren't too big or too small to keep a nice pace. I assumed it wouldn't be interesting down low, but the original plan was to ridgewalk ~5100ft on the way back down for variety and it'd make things more of a loop.

After a while of this it opened up (as seen the day before from the side of point 4) into a surprisingly interesting set of pools and cascades. Obstacles were trivial and bypasses plenty due to the open nature of the area. Many cow paths on either side of the creek, but we mainly chose to hike up it for interest.

It did tighten up again (as seen before) and while it was a bit denser than the initial lower section with some brushing past of trees it was never a terrible bushbash like the upper canyon, shifting between more and less open sections of boulders and slickrock.

The first major obstacle was a waterfall (with a fascinating frozen rooted tree perched alongside it) downstream of the fork - the southern side looked like it'd require some actual climbing so we made our way up some loose broken shelves on the northern side. Aside from dodging cactii this was straightforward, and once gaining the ridge just above the falls it was easily traversible and then droppable (I took a more direct route, S cut a little downstream and went above the ledge then dropped down to it later).

The top of this was an extremely pleasant long set of cascading slickrock - perhaps my favorite "mellow" section in the area! We reached the fork earlier than anticipated and decided to take the northern route as it had running water and seemed like it'd be more interesting. After some truly stunning pools it shifted to mediocre slickrock, then bushy rocky sections, then the slickrock would come back, then it'd get bushier. As we slowed down to a typical off-trail pace for the first we re-evaluated options - going back down some of the bush seemed demoralizing, so we'd take a look at the cut over to the southern fork (some old mining roads) and if that looked crap just take FR693 to FR236 and back.

The middle of the canyon got that level of bushbashing where you look at the creek and the sides and it all looks bad, but there'd be small breaks of open areas. Just as this got to be a bit much, it opened up into a section... full of class 3 pourovers. This was much appreciated, and they provided interesting vs obnoxious obstacles. This faded, then was replaced by some of the most frozen areas we'd encountered yet, which slowed navigation down but created a really interesting atmosphere. A few sections would have created a lugue effect where one could slide 30ft or so then drop down a falls! At this point our faith in choosing this route was rewarded, though we were keeping an eye on the time.

Like all good things, this once again faded to brush, to be replaced by a handful of valiant class 3 obstacles. Once overcome the creek was a very pleasant slickrock... with impenetrable scrubby forest on either side. While satellite after the fact shows the other (southern side) of this to be far more open (with a few obvious spots to aim for), it would have been a bit of a gamble given the time. And we were also tired of bushbashing. So we continued up the creek. Which of course descended into bushbashing hell for a short while, with marginally better game trails on the north until it opened up again and we followed it to FR693. Whew.

While this was a long looping way back, it was also simple and we'd never been up here, so it worked out. FR693 itself was a bit soft, and the trees were definitely closing in for a jeep (you'd want to trim a few spots) but it was in great shape for being formally abandoned. At one point the eastern side of the road had been carved out by a drainage making it rather lopsided for a jeep, but it didn't seem anything massively out of the norm.

Reaching FR236 we went to the Dupont Cabin. The two main rooms were in good shape, the open (stable? wood shed?) was collapsing a bit. Lots of random condiments and whatnot stashed in ziplocs and the trail register stashed around, along with water bottles (good idea) and cans of mouse feces covered food and some chips & cookies they had tried to get into and would soon. A couple from WI that had signed the trail register 3 days earlier had also graffitied a piece of lumber and propped it up inside... once we left we both independently thought we should have hidden that somewhere as to not encourage more poor behavior. The carpeting inside was a bit gross, but no signs of vandalism, some trash strewn around, left in the fire pit, on the side of the road etc. Was a bit much so we just left it, but it seems like locals must come up and clean the place regularly. It was nice being in a proper pine forest for a while, with a high canopy and nice duffy floors. :)

The hike down was uneventful, though it's clear why we found nearly a dozen pieces of OHVs/ATVs - some large rocky obstacles, and a terrible section of petrified baby heads on the drop down into Greenback valley, though that was made up by the gorgeous evening views of the 3 plateaus stretching in front of us. Dusk approached, but we had layers and only turned on our headlamps when we cut off FR236 towards the tank/orchard again. I took the wrong cowpath out from the tank, but looked up and saw I was heading N judging by hills around me, turned around, and used my phone as a compass to get me back to the gate. ^^;

A great loop - not sure our giant FR exit was necessary, but it was the right call (doing XC in the dark over rocks when it's in the 20s seems like when accidents will happen) and felt better than just hiking up and down it.
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Feb 04 2022
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Copper Mtn Points - Lower/UpperGlobe, AZ
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Middle Copper Mountain Points Canyon > Point 4 > Point 2 > Point 3
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Well, I wasn't expecting much from this canyon and was still left dissapointed. It worked and the majority of our time was spent up on the points, which still worked out great!

We decided to just take greenback creek from where FR236A washed out to avoid bushbashing. Both forks had light flowing water and were easy walking until the middle fork drainage. It was smaller, mostly dry (a handful of smaller pools), but not too rough. Only one real point of interest, an all too short section of purple slickrock, but whatever. Maybe it'd make a nice non-technical approach from FR236A to the points. Around 5150ft it became overgrown - we'd hop out to the N side of the canyon, drop back in, rinse and repeat. Not much fun at all. Around two hundred feet later the northern side opened up, though the creek itself alternated between mediocre slickrock and thick bushes. Around 5,400ft there was a really cool set of chonky cascades, but you're better off just dropping into that from the top if you're up there vs going all the way up.

All of the point traverses are easy and pretty open - we first went along point 4 to scope out the lower canyon (looked promising with a lower section that looked like open trees, it opened up to an area with some pools, then after closed up a bit but still had some gaps in the canopy to the fork. Came across what seemed to be a very old road (doesn't show up on any maps) along the eastern rim of point 4, intriguing but it wasn't going our way.

Copper Mtn Points tank was full of gross water (some rainbow banding on the ice in it using polarized glasses) - some hunters left camo shelters in disrepair. We dragged the lower one back up to the upper beneath a tree less than a hundred feet from water and piled up some other trash there. The "un-sporting" tree stand was still there, a bit worse for the wear and padlocked heh.

Hopped over to point 2 and checked out the rim of the south fork of the upper canyon and pointed out the drop point, enjoyed that area again, then walked around the rim of the north fork of the upper canyon. AMAZING views down, and really neat to see things from a different perspective - lots of great view points with no inches from the edge fear, though people could get closer than we went if they felt inclined.

Some old really weird cairns there in seemingly random non-navigation centric places. At first I thought they were marking drops to abritrary viewpoints, but after a while noticed one had quartz chips around it, and another had a small pick and shovel tilings right below it. We also encountered a modest mining prospect not on USGS.

Finally we walked around point 3, enjoying a view of both forks of the upper canyon along the side and greenback valley from the tip, and dropped down the spot we had eyed earlier in the day. It was steep but pretty straightforward, and we again found a giant cairn. As it led into a bushy gully we opted to ignore it and just read the terrain out.

Back at camp we campfire cooked up more of those discount top sirloin fillets (grabbed more the last day they were on sale before the trip) and heated up some beans on the marine stove - a filling meal for the lower canyon trip coming up the next day!
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Copper Mountain Points Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
Rather brown water and some rainbow banding on ice when looking through polarized lenses. Hunter trash in the area to be packed out.
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Feb 03 2022
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Unnamed Canyon off FR71 & Oak Creek Ranch, AZ 
Unnamed Canyon off FR71 & Oak Creek Ranch, AZ
 
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With a half day I decided to do Boneyback peak and start from Cannondale Kid's route as the rock wall nearby had been calling to me for a while driving past it and I figured we could check it out on the way. Well...

It's an easy hike up the creekbed to it - two fallen trees but no real issues. Some simple class 3 scrambles up boulders as the canyon begins to tighten... and it begins to show some real promise! We soon arrived at a class 4 problem below a waterfall and didn't feel comfortable going up it with the boots we had on, so went back to the van and swapped footwear. S still didn't feel comfortable committing to downclimbing it, but I went up it in Merrel Moab Vents so nothing fancy, sticking to the right of the main chute and then edging across a ledge and up. A really neat very boxed in space. I scrambled out of it and checked out a ledge that looked like it had a sketchy traversal from below. It did, so I went back down and downclimbed, dropping on the other side of the chute and traversing across to where I had climbed up. A little nervewracking but fairly straightforward and it was good having someone below call out footholds for the final drop where I couldn't always see where good holds were.

At this point the peak is out of our timetable, so we wandered down the creek until it got stinky/overgrown/algaeish past a cattle fence so popped out onto FR136 to check out the Oak Creek Ranch. Lots of TP in this area, someone put a grill in a fire ring and warped it, and we had packed out some trash already which is unusual for this area. Found two old stone walls, but not other signs of the ranch, then took FR136 back to FR71 and off to find a spot to park for the night.

Oaker Spring was flowing STRONG into a trough, which the local cows appreciated.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Oaker Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Clean water pouring out into a trough via pipe. Lots of cattle in the area and porous soil, would still need to be filtered I imagine?

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Upper Oak Creek - Sierra Ancha Light flow Light flow
A mix of pools and light flow, occasionally underground ~Oaker Spring area. Past a fence line the water quality decreased dramatically and the creek smelled terrible. :(
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Copper Mtn Points - Lower/UpperGlobe, AZ
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Upper CMP Canyon South & North Forks
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Spurred on by @grasshopper - the south fork of copper canyon (and another norf fork as well). Note I only started the route at the south fork junction, so distance and elevation is off even though the track still shows the complete route.

Same entrance point obviously (3 pink rocks in the now cut off FR236A), as the route is the same up until the junction. Easy forest across a few drainages to the rocky copper creek. In the earlier flatter stages it's simpler to keep to one side or the other, then hop in the creekbeds up when things get steeper and vegetation closes in. Far less bushy than the initial cut and approach the Malicious Gap falls, but similar overall obstacles (lots of boulders, stones, deadfall, trees to brush past, etc)

While it looks like it's going to be a bushwhacking shitshow from above, we were pleasantly surprised at how open it was. Anticipating it tightening we explored up a beautiful grassy slope, but ended up coming back down, so you can ignore the first little side trip up the canyon wall. More canyon views and small ledges and slickrock bits than the north fork, which is just trees and boulders until that magnificent set of cascades that start the slickrock. It's a little more interesting IMO, less claustrophobic boulder hopping until it's not.

We ended up cutting out the creekbed on our way up to gain an open grassy slope to the north - that ended up being the bushbashing highlight of the trip amusingly enough. Some neat views, and access to a shallow cave we didn't get to from that route, so worth doing just for variety if you feel like it. We dropped back in near some pine trees when it got more consistently slick rocky and... huh.

It doesn't open up into that huge vista of the north fork, but it's spectacular in a more intimate way. Extremely lush, almost a jungle feel (as opposed to overgrown scrubby forest) with a scattering of scenic boulders and the odd cacti give it a feel of a Indiana Jones set or something. We kept on following the canyon as it tightened up, enjoying the pillars to either side and wondering if/when we'd get cliffed out. After various enjoyable class 3 obstacles we hit the first serious one - a chunky rock wall maybe 15 feet in height. Sara had picked up a puncture wound from an Agave leaf in her right foot so sat this out, but I went up the left side of it where it looked the simplest. It's more difficult than the malicious gap wall, a longer pitch and somewhat smoothed by water, but I made it up without any special moments.

From there it's a simple loose 4-5 minute gully scramble up to the top of the canyon and out to the top! I exited a bit NE of the main inlet and wandered around the top checking out other possible routes and views. Some great viewpoints (mind the edges, and the fact that some of these pillars are already semi detached) but didn't see any other routes down that I'd want to do without rope, so I eventually retraced my steps down.

I choose to chimney/buttslide down a crack near the canyon wall vs downclimb given the smoothness of rock and the fact I was wearing a really sloppy pair of solomon midtops (lightweight, comfy, moderately protective, but not suited for edging/smearing at all). Dropped without incident and we made our way down canyon - the creekbed we bypassed earlier had no major obstacles and we followed up a neat staircasey drainage to the canyon wall to the south because it was there. I'd recommend it. After that dropping down to the junction was more of the same, and then we went back up the north fork we'd admired the day before from the ridge.

The high route (a simplified version of what we did last time based off of previous attempts to reach the ruins) was much more straightforward having done it before. Cut along the bottom then the left of the talus, bushbash through dense but not spiky plants when the first squat pillar was reached to the next gully, follow that up (with more bushbashing and class 3 mixed in with some nice open spots), then cut across some solid rock near the top to the "pillar garden" viewpoint and an easy drop from there to the slickrock part of the upper canyon. I enjoy taking the high way up, and following the creekbed down, but it's not necessary. If there's a lot of flow in the creek it could be useful for bypassing some of the cascade drops at the end which would get complicated if wet I suppose.

From there more tree branch shoving and boulder hopping all the way back down to the road.
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Malicious GapGlobe, AZ
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Malicious Gap & CMP Point 1

Either we picked a slightly better path in this time, or I'm just getting better at bushbashing in AZ, but it didn't seem quite as bad. catclaw was avoided with prejudice and compared to that everything else seems fine hah.

The falls weren't flowing as well as I had hoped, but that's what I get being conservative with the creek crossing - still more flow and green than last time. Did a similar up the little scree pile to the dead tree and then class 3 up from there vs trying to force my way up the slope - it felt fun and easy (IMO) as long as you check your holds but looking at a photo it looks rather insane!

Once up the canyon a bit there was some gorgeous ice. Slow flows of dribbling water over nubly rock combined with some freeze/thaw cycles created some really unique patterns. We slowly made our way up to where the slick rock ended and decided that instead of going up to lion spring like last time we'd try to gain the ridge between it and copper canyon. Fairly steep, but quite easy for what it is (poles recommended).

I was checking some photos from the day before and decided that dropping from the ridge back towards the road directly should work. Unfortunately I was looking at the wrong ridge when comparing maps to topo! The ridge itself is amazing with some gorgeous views both down at the falls and lower slickrock sections of Malicious Gap and the North Fork of Copper Canyon (and the lower South Fork). We found a place to drop - loose garbage rock but taking things slowly (and me clearing out the bottom of the chute with one foot while wedged in) made it look much worse than it was. We wiggled down relatively easily after, but it was noticeably steeper - I wouldn't have wanted to do it without adjustable poles (I was -10cm going up and +15cm going down).

The next days trip report will show what looks to be a simpler drop from the ridge - even easier would be to approach it from a 4WD road from the north.

Once down it was an easy cross over to the road and then out... for some top sirloin fillets that were on sale! S rebuilt the fire ring there and we had a tasty meal before retiring the comforts of the van.
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A cluster of flowers growing from the canyon wall, and some more purple flowers on the ridge.

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Oak Creek Loop - Greenback ValleyGlobe, AZ
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Arrived late morning and didn't want to be rushed for the main attractions, so decided to check out Oak Creek from FR236 - I had forgotten there were HAZ triplogs for it due to the proper TH/4WD road being off FR71 so just went by sight/topo which worked well. Two comments from my route 1) I'd just start on the jeep trail we exited on (the southern exit vs northern entrance) 2) The northern parts of the arm off of bear mountain we went up as well as upper oak creek were pretty overgrown, dropping down the 2012 death gully might make for a nicer loop.

Eyeballed the pass from our parking spot / basecamp and got there easily enough - I'd take the jeep road until it crosses the wash and then just XC up from there instead of doing so from the start to avoid some catclaw we had circle around/through but oh well. Easy open grass for the most part, and the grassy ramp on the south side was an obvious invite. Traversing high seemed like it'd be annoying, and looking at how it mellowed out up north we figured we'd drop down low, so high we went. Easy enough up, poles and something with lugs were welcome and some great views up top. Oh yeah, we saw the slickrock area further south, and figured we could cut up to the little pass just east of it, so our trip grew longer yet again lol.

It quickly got a bit bushy up top, so nixed plans on hitting the little prominence off the arm and just went for following various cow trails to drop into Oak Creek. Worked well for the most part, some scraping by trees at times but nothing horrible. Came across some cut logs on a cow route which was a bit odd.

Dropping into the oak creek drainage... yeah that's a bit bushbashy for my tastes. There was a solid cowpath skiiers/downstream left / east that I wish we had gone up to earlier. Nicely forested, occasionally annoying but not too terrible once it consolidates a bit. Feels pretty untouched, but we saw a game camera on a tree, some twisted wire that looked like it was part of a fence, and then some barbed wire further downstream... so people used to go there at least heh. Staying to the left for the most part going down seemed to be the way to do it until it opened up.

A bit above 5100 it opens up quite a bit - the drainage coming in from the west near some nice pillars is the majority of the flow of the creek. The water had a cloudy appearance, even when dipping underground and then popping back out again, so something to do with the sand there. This part was pretty interesting - some really colorful boulders, nice cliff views, and a pretty steady flow of water that was nonetheless easy to avoid.

After a while the boulders go away and it enters into an open forest which was pleasant to move through, then transitions into slickrock. While not as spectacular as some of the nearby canyons there were some quite nice spillovers - the "main" fall I could see from the ridge earlier and was unsure about ended up being quite accomodating once we were actually to it. I named it the benevolent gap. :)

Once the slickrock petered out we did some easy XC up to the pass over cowpaths through grass, then dropped through more of the same and took the jeep road back.

All in all a nice blend of open easy wandering, nice views, colorful boulders on a creek, and a charming little slickrock gorge. And yeah, some bushbashing on the northern end of it. GPS only really useful on that northern part of the ridge to ensure we were on track for a good drop point, all the rest you can navigate by features / are following a creek!

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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
A few purple flowers higher up on the ridge.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Upper Oak Creek - Sierra Ancha Medium flow Medium flow
Flowing well, would occasionally go underground. Less cattle where it was bouldery, but clearer water below on the slickrock section.

Very little flow above ~5150ft
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Aztec Edward's Devilish Eye, AZ 
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FR487

More melted out than the week before. Still seems to be a mix of vehicles making it up and bailing. Falls a little fuller. :) Snow firm and crunchy for the most part.

Abbey's Way Trail #151

We cut off the trail and explored this area by daylight. :) Found what could be a low wall of ruins near an old well, then followed a path up from the weather station to a cut log and barbed wire where it dead ended. Decided to head back to the trail (easy enough luckily) and then... went a bit overboard. Limbed it and cleared over a hundred new mexico locusts (those in the trail and those encroaching on it). From that point to the top the only real obstacle is a fallen tree which is easily bypassed.

Took three hours to reach the summit from the weather station (lol) - enjoyed burritos from Los Robertos that we packed in at the ridiculous "flinstones" ATV camp, then headed down.

FR487 + FR487a

Much nicer going down on firmer snow. Still postholey in a few sections, but still had our bootprints from the last time to go down heh. No other signs of people on FR487a though more ATV tracks to the summit along FR487.

Murphy Ranch #141

Again easier going down. 5-6 downed trees on it, getting a little weedy but not terrible. Lacked enthusiasm to clear this, so just got rid of a few of the more aggregious specimens.

Rim Trail #139 - Sierra Ancha

This side of the trail is in solid shape. We ended up camping on a flat spot in the forest just below the junction, and dayhiked out to Edward Springs to enjoy the cliff views. Some downed trees, lots of snow in the gorge where Cold Canyon starts - a solid clear flow there so I did a little landscaping to make filling up on water easier on the way back in case Edward's seep was gross so we could fill up on the way back after the dirt had cleared out. Spoiler: it was, but there's a little slick rock section the trail crosses a minute or two before the junction sign, below that we were able to fill up... slowly... and patiently.

The Cold Creek Canyon snow had gotten worse on our way back, a thin glaze of slippery ice on top from melting and refreezing for an extended period. :| Microspikes or take a step or two uphill with poles to stabilize and kick out steps using a pole to probe. I took a knee coming over in the morning and assumed it'd be better later. Nope.

XC on peninsula between Cold & Pueblo Canyons

Not going to be a destination, but neat. Easy drop down to the obvious saddle and back up. A few large patches of manzanita labyrinths you can either bypass of wind through. A lot of areas with juvenile manzanita that will be a pain in the future. Better views into Cold Canyon than Pueblo, though we found two rings that were all that remained from an old can just before the obvious tip you'd go to look into it completely bushed out.

The Devils Eye

No issues on 139 getting here, or to the moody point trail. Just N of the 140 junction 139 cuts above a gully, just keep on trail and don't try to be clever and it'll be fine. Now onto the good part - I had read the guide and looked at some photos but didn't dig deep into triplogs for this (semi-rushed trip planning) so it was fun!

Stage 1 - The Peninsula Top: Very very easy XC. What we were expecting the previous one to be like hah. Zero navigational hazards, we cut closer to southern fork of Devil's Chasm for some views and found some cow bones and a nice drop point.

Stage 2 - The Drop: easy enough class 2 if someone steep and loose. Poles made life -much- easier. Easier up than down, but shouldn't pose an issue to anyone experienced going off trail.

Stage 3 - The Cut to the Ledge: this is the crux, there's a bush you have to go under that has a step or two with some real exposure. More pyschological than technical, and it's good that this is at the beginning vs near the end. Intermiitent ATT signal at the little outcropping with the burnt tree before it and strong signal once past the first point, so some possibility of communication if a group splits.

Stage 4 - The Ledge: Really cool and very obvious. This is some great routefinding! Obviously a lot of rockfall here, but I didn't see anything obvious. Freeze/thaw cycles with snowmelt is the worse time to be here from a safety standpoint, but it was all solid dried out ground from stage 2 on.

Stage 5 - The Wrap: past the ledge there's a little talus pile, then it's wrapping around on a less exposed angled slope for a while until you reach the Eye. A solid pace is able to be kept for the vast majority of it, there's one semi-stable talus field to contend with but the worst of it is just avoided cactii.

Moody Point Trail #140

Lower part of this trail is great. Upper part gets into thorn locust (it seems to like slopes with burn scars, is it a nitrogen loving plant?) but the trail is clear of it, moreso on the lower half of the climb up. Better than I had hoped! Had some little flurries of snow that were perfect, zero impact on the trail but added a fun ambience.

FR487

Nice crunchy snow. Two parts have been TORN UP by people transitioning from following tracks onto snow onto the wet clay beneath. :( Saw some odd science experiments off to the side. Starting flurrying in earnest around Workman Creek Falls, but not enough to impact our drive out. :)
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Cold Spring Canyon Creek @ Rim TR 139 Light flow Light flow
Flowing extremely clear and steadily, though I'll keep it at light. Best water on the peninsula with zero tannins visible.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Edward Spring Dripping Dripping
Some gross stagnant green pools. Some very shallow but clear runners above them you could scoop water out of.

Better water below the slickrock the trail crosses a minute or two below the junction sign.

dry Hunt Spring Dry Dry
Didn't see anything, but didn't look too hard offtrail as it's a hellscape of new mexico locust thorns and there's plenty of snowmelt.
 
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Parker Canyon - Tonto NFGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Canyoneering2.70 Miles 935 AEG
Canyoneering2.70 Miles
935 ft AEG
 
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We originally went out to check out whatever viewpoints FR288 could offer as a slack day, then eyed the creek and thought "hey we could get down there" and poked around a bit. It ended up being gorgeous and well worth the minimal effort required.

I'm leaving the canyon rating as Grade 3 even though we went down Grade 1 as to not throw off the actual canyoneers. :)

An older SUV was backing up the road as we went down, I ended up waving down the driver and handing them a still warm crap they had popped off the bottom of their vehicle. The missus in the passenger seat wasn't impressed with the situation.
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Jan 13 2022
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Tour de Anca (version), AZ 
Tour de Anca (version), AZ
 
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Directly inspired by [ triplog ] :)

2022-01-13 to 2022-01-14 - a bit rushed, bit locust thorny, the post-holing at the end wasn't great - but a really neat shoulder season feeling trip. The mix of AZ vegitation & vistas while crunching up snow was an interesting visual mix. :)

This was meant to be a two night trip, but mechanical issues Wednesday made a short 1 night trip.

FR487

The gate was open - we parked below it. A couple of muddy tire ruts through snow patches on the way up, with the road getting properly snowed over on the sinuous curves near workman creek falls. We met a snowbird on an ATV making his way down (we had a midday start), and then two guys in an OHV that bailed a bit before the Peterson TH due to things being too slushy. No issues hiking up in boots, the tracks had nicely compressed snow like a groomed nordic ski track.

Parker Creek Trail #160

Lightly snowed in from the junction to the pass, saw either some bobcat or coyote tracks (claw tips or tufty hair?). Trail pretty clear (of snow and obstacles) from the pass down to the 139/160 junction - I tested out my new Silky folding saw on some new mexico locust trunks that were getting too close to the trail and it worked admirably.

Rim Trail #139

No significant snow here - springs were dead as far as we could tell, but plenty of little snowmelt in gulleys that we could use. We carried 2.5-3L of water each and always had a solid reserve.

We were able to stay on trail for the bit that eagle lost it (we were uncertain at his back on trail point but quickly were back on it as evidenced by cairns and cut logs). There's a large cairn on a slickrock drainage shortly before the trail was marked lost that we went up to meet, and we found ourselves below his route. Other than that his track was spot on, and far more accurate than USGS & OSM. We lost the trail ourselves a few times after that in snarls of new mexico locust trees. Some great viewpoints, but there was one section I called "barbed hellcsape" and my partner named "hellsnarl". For the most part it's faint single track / game trail with cairns and some nice views through grassy areas. I cleared a few limbs blocking the trail at one point.

Devil's Chasm and the "Coon Creek Canyoon Overlooks" were great. It would have been nice to see this area with some more tree cover, as the areas that still had canopies kept the locust thorns away.

Murphy Ranch Trail #141

The first part of this was pretty straightforward, and in better shape than 139. Once it widens up the locusts begin to close in a bit, but it wasn't anything as near as bad as 139 and 151. Once in the shadow of Aztec Peak we encountered enough snow that I was postholing up it a bit. Not too terrible, but we were looking forward to being on an "easy" fire road after all the bushbashing. Heh.

FR487a

Slooow going. Was postholing up to my midcalves most steps up to the junction (step, wait, fall, lift, repeat) where the road was mostly melted out. After a turn or two it was snow covered but consolidated and with some previous footprints to follow in. Made it up to the peak shortly after sunset. :(

Abbey's Way 151

The upper part would be great with more light, nice views. The switches going down were pretty clear - no significant downed trees but the locust was creeping in a bit in places. Jogging down the snow was kind of fun, and it was a warm evening so we hopped off of the path we were on to wander peterson meadow by moonlight (headlamps off) and then dropped back onto the main trail shortly before the Peterson TH. We wandered over to the ruins marked on eagle's route and found a functional looking weather monitoring station.

FR487

A few more OHV/ATV users had tried to get up the road during our trip and failed - I saw a few spots where people had turned around on the way up. Tracks had frozen over, which made for treacherous footing, but we avoided them and enjoyed the moonlight on snow before putting on our microspikes as we got near workman falls. Once past that it was an easy walk down and the snow below that on the road was almost completely melted out.
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dry Armor Corral Spring Dry Dry
No sign of water from the trail - didn't venture off of it.

dry Hunt Spring Dry Dry
No sign of water from the trail - didn't venture off of it due to a hellscape of thorns. Plenty of snowmelt creeks nearby.

dry Mud Spring Dry Dry
No sign of water from the trail - didn't venture off of it due to vegetation.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Workman Creek Falls Medium flow Medium flow
Flowing well, presumably radioactive. :p
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Nov 20 2021
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Parker Creek Trail #160Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking6.00 Miles 1,800 AEG
Hiking6.00 Miles
1,800 ft AEG
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We ended up doing this blind - woke up at sawmill flats with no signal and didn't feel up to the bushwhack adventure I was planning on doing and it seemed like it could be interesting just by looking at topo. We ended up only going up to the saddle - Carr peak seems like an easy bag with a great view nearby.

Shortly into the hike when you hit the creek it's surprisingly lush, and the contrast with the more typically scrub/pillars on the far side of the canyon makes for a really neat mix of biomes. It's a gentle climb up for the first 1200 feet or so, then increases slightly but it's never a tough slog. Nice views looking down the canyon near the top, and through the trees at the opposite side. A very pleasant surprise! The canyon stayed nicely shaded for most of the hike, and the shoulder on top had some shade trees. There's two short access points to the creek above the dam to some gorgeous little slick rock areas I'd highly recommend.

The trail is heavily overgrown in places, though luckily not very prickly/spiky. There was however quite a lot of poison ivy in the first half or so of the hike. Easily avoidable for the most part, but annoying as it's highly variable in appearance - small trees, medium bushes, once even as a ground cover sort of clover and ranging from bright green to solid yellow to wrinkling orange/brown. Deadfall was an issue, with a few requiring stepping off the trail onto a steep slope or some contortions to get around, and were too large/dense for me to clear effectively.

Finding the trail was never an issue, and the official route here is accurate vs USGS/OSM.

We were in loose long sleeve pants and shirts - changed out of them at the trailhead and stored to be cleaned separately later, then showered after arriving in PHX that evening. No reactions to the ivy though I'm fairly sure I had contact on my poles / clothing at a few points when my guard was let down (there's a lot of plants and some look similar).
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max South Fork Parker Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Moving well at and above the dam, you can hear cascades from the trail and pools are clear etc. Some movement below it, but access is poor.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Upper South Fork Parker Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Stagnant pool where the trail crosses, didn't investigate further.
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Nov 19 2021
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McFadden Horse Mtn Elephant Rock Arch loop, AZ 
McFadden Horse Mtn Elephant Rock Arch loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 19 2021
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A nice all day hike (to be able to soak the cool spots in), and much better counterclockwise than clockwise IMO.

Parking area is easy to find, and the jeep road leading up from it was well graded with some nice views. More tire tracks on it than boot prints. A faded sign is at the junction of the horse trail, which I found easier to follow than anticipated. It gets a bit steep and a little loose in places, and had one significant deadfall we had to route around. I was able to clear about 2/3 to 3/4 of the deadfall impacting the trail on the way up due to the lack of density in them, which was kind of fun. It gradually more forested as you climb, and the cairns increase in frequency.

The plateau of the peak itself I really enjoyed - a really nice mix of agave, grass, and scattered trees gave it a fascinating ambience. Very few cacti. The trail does become a bit hard to follow once you're past the "peak" (we hopped over to find a USGS marker or register and were unsuccessful) but gains clarity once you're on the ridge where the terrain is obviously constrained. Other than that brief section the cairns were more an affirmation I was on the right route vs something I was searching for in order to navigate. Didn't see any boot prints, but some hooves have been on the trail recently, and we saw both cow and deer up on the plateau.

The scenic point at the end of the trail was a great place to stop for lunch, and well worth exploring. A few minutes before it there's some pillars off to the east visible from trail, and an obvious break in foliage to drop down and see them - well worth visiting.

We backtracked and looked for a way to connect to elephant rock arch - a direct route failed, but topo looked friendlier at a nearby gully/canyon and we found a cow path that took us to an easy if slow traverse across the side of the plateau we were on top of earlier. Some really cool multi-colored scooped out rocks that probably haven't been seen by too many people recently near the arch.

We ended up above the arch, looking down on the top of it hah. A really neat spot, we lingered there, dropped around the eastern side of the arch and onto where most people probably go, then wandered around there onto the little point north of it.

The hike back to 288 was pretty straightforward off-trail, we hit the road 10 minutes before sunset and had a simple hike down the road to our vehicle at the #146 TH with amazing views of the sunset (whilst snacking on BBQ chips). The puffies we wore in the morning came in handy on that walk down. :)

More detailed route info on the arch & connector guides as they were written from this trip. :p
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max McFadden Horse Mtn Gully Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Single murky pool.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max McFadden Horse Mtn Gully (lower) Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Multiple murky pools, much bovine interaction.
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Nov 18 2021
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Conner CanyonGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Hiking1.20 Miles 700 AEG
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700 ft AEG
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There's a large pullout with an empty covered signage board below the trail - there's a path leading directly from it south that just heads up to a nearby hill with no real view, head up 288 a couple hundred feet and there's an obvious 4WD/ATV road to follow down. It has enough growth along the sides to provide some shade in the morning and evening. It's a fairly moderate grade and seems to get far more wheeled use than booted.

Once down in the canyon following the creek was surprisingly easy - very little spiky/poky plants and while being very lush it's not overgrown. Water levels were low enough we were boots dry in the creek itself, but would hop out of it occasionally and never had any issues with a bypass. There's some fallen small shelters near where the 4WD road meets the creek along with some scattered trash, but it feels very pristine below that.

Didn't encounter anything I'd consider canyoneering, but we didn't explore the full canyon. :)
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dry Conner Canyon - Sierra Ancha Dry Dry
Mostly underground, but occasionally a light trickle between small pools. Murky near 4WD road, but some small clearer ones below.

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Feb 14 2021
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Oak Spring Canyon - Tonto BasinPayson, AZ
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Canyoneering3.80 Miles 1,265 AEG
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I gave up on driving the road in with a high clearance RWD vehicle - saw quite a few UTVs and their tracks on it. I drove down to the first FR junction near the worn "not maintained past this point" sign, parked and noped out with a 5 point turn out. There's only one solid parking spot by the gate, but aside from the junction there's a flat area alongside a corral & tank setup by azdeer.org I guess. The road had enough wash outs, 6-8" height differences between sides, and sharp (if smallish) drops that'd it'd be more of a 4WD road than high clearance, unless you're in a really tricked out 2WD/AWD ride I guess.

Burn scar is burnt, but made for interesting terrain. I've been near two tiny lightning fires in the alpine, and passed through old burn scars, but this was new. It rained around a quarter inch the night before, so dust was tamped down - though wet ash on slopes is _slick_. Navigating past the roads in the creekbed might be a bit easier than before, but I can only imagine what it was like earlier. After a while the burn impact gets a bit more sporadic, and peters out as the canyon tightens.

We had enough water to enjoy the cascades, but there wasn't enough to make navigation an issue. Interesting short bypasses that required some scouting/reroutes and a bit more bushwhacking than I would have wanted (though thankfully few thorned plants).

Had a grey sky coming in that had me worried despite the forecast, but it cleared up in the creek bed so we went in and enjoyed the hike. Didn't due the upper grotto due to time / partner's lack of interest in steep loose slopes. It was fun to see a little more water, though due to temps we kept our socks dry (boots got wet, but not consquential).
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Oak Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
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Feb 13 2021
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Copper Mtn Points - Lower/UpperGlobe, AZ
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Upper CMP Canyon North Fork

Lower canyon, starting from about halfway up 236A.

Followed the road up to the "TH" (essentially cut off the road towards the wash where there are three large pink rocks scattered in the road and then continue up the wash). For the very bottom of the wash we walked on the far side where it was flat as the wash was a bit overgrown and there was open terrain at the side, then popped back in as it began to climb. This hike is 95% boring/tedious slog through a bouldery streambed and ducking/pushing under overhanging tree limbs, and 5% wonder at the rock walls and cascades of the slabby stream bed at the end. It gets a little brushier once you pass the main fork up in the canyon (where everyone goes east/left, didn't check out west/right) but not bad, and if you take the high route below you skip the brushier section (going down it wasn't bad though).

While you can go up and down the creekbed just fine, we did a twist that I think is worth repeating. Directions heading up, as that's the better way to do this.

A ways past the fork the streambed is extremely cut out with an 8+ foot mud/rock wall on the right with a precarious tree. Just past this there's a talus field you can head up - to the right across smaller looser rock is the approach to the large cave (dwelling?) that you can see from the streambed. As my partner has PTSD from being in the middle of a significant rockslide on steep loose terrain, we stuck to the left of this where the rocks are larger and surprisingly stable until it ended. Tried going up from there and got cliffed out, so don't do that. What you should do is bushbash up and over into the drainage channel to the left of it then head up that (easy going!) until it cliffs out amongst some trees. From there's it's a simple pleasant walk (comparatively) up to the interesting part of the canyon - passing some amazing pillar formations - stop and look behind you! There's some flat spots that'd make a great lunch lookout. After a brief ledgey traverse it opens up, do a gentle traverse then drop a bit more steadily towards a small point with a dead fallen tree on it, then make your way down to the canyon floor. Once there wander around, enjoy your reward, then drop back down to the road just following the streambed.

For people comfortable on 35deg+ loose scree/talus, heading to the cave and back near the beginning of that would be interesting.

No obstacles beyond basic scrambling, some simple downclimbing on very blocky terrain you could theoretically bypass.

No water in creek until the upper slabby part, nice flow between pools and the falls had a steady stream of fat drops tossed by the wind.
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Feb 12 2021
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Malicious GapGlobe, AZ
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Canyoneering2.50 Miles 650 AEG
Canyoneering2.50 Miles
650 ft AEG
Canyon Hiking - Non-technical; no rope; easy scrambling; occasional hand use
A - Dry or little water; shallow or avoidable water; no wet/dry suit
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236/A seemed to be recently graded - I was in a sprinter (144" wheelbase) and had no issues getting past the gate and about halfway to the washed out section. There's a single parking spot sloped at the gate to 236a - we parked there and scoped 236A on foot then drove down it. There's a nice flat area near the actual junction to 2933, and another at a flat spot past a small corral. The road gets a bit rougher past that, with no real reward, so basecamped at the latter. If dry something like a moderate clearance subarau should have no issue getting past the gate to a good parking spot.

There's a 5+ ft drop in 236A where it hits the wash, so getting all the way to the end seems a bit adventurous. A few spots to park there, and a fire ring in the road heh.

We went up the scree bypass at the falls a short way then just scrambled up the ledges towards the top - very straightforward class 3 as long as you test your holds before committing to them.

The burn wasn't as bad as I thought - still a good amount of green in the area amongst some dead trees.

Some moderate bushbashing early on in the canyon, nothing of consequence once you're near the falls and past. We started out on one of the upper routes that goes to the cattle/horse bypass and dropped in late which seemed to work out well.

Using the Yosemite system it was all class 1/2 aside from the waterfall itself, which was a mix of 2 and straightforward 3 even tackling it pretty directly. It's grade 2 if you go more aggressively (aside from rope recommended) IMO for the waterfall, grade 1 for everything else using the canyoneering guide here.

Neat spot, and more immediate rewards than Copper Canyon nearby (though the latter is arguably more impressive).

Plenty of pretty pictures, so no need to add my own of the same spots, just added a few for clarity. :)
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dry Copper Mtn Points Drainage - Spring Dry Dry
Some water trickling once you get up to the actual falls, dry below. 2/13, cannot change date.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Malicious Gap Water Fall Light flow Light flow
Light flow above falls, 2/12 (cannot change date in UI), some rain evening of 2/13.
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