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Feb 27 2025
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Snake Gulch to Table RockNorthwest, AZ
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2-26 to 3/1, but all relevant water reports from 2-27. We hiked in mid afternoon on the 26th, dayhiked up to Swapp junction on the 27th, then poked around slowly on our way back 28th & 1st.

We parked off the highway and just went down Warm Springs wash. Simple easy gravel - far better than fine sand or boulders. Added maybe an hour and 15 min or so? We weren't sure about precip on the last day and the naile canyon road has some clay sections. Saw a 4x4 pickup at the TH coming out. Dayhikers shocked to see us and asked if we were thru-hiking and wanted to see the upside down pineapple people.

This was before the latest round of storms, so a useful drought read of water sources.

Water

The guzzler by stone house looked solid but we didn't hop the fence and had no need for it. It's not there for us anyways.

Table Spring (really a seep, not a spring) was great due to the concrete troughs. The lower one was a little low and gross, but the top one was clear.

A few seeps upstream and one small water pocket, but the concrete troughs are a better choice.

One small water pocket in a short pourover canyon on the N, the pool above it was dry. A bit tannic and non-ideal but not awful.

A lot of cowboy arch near Pigeon - we were expecting more water for all the effort but found a cut in half basketball's amount of water in a pool with no visible movement. I guess that's why they built it up!

Now if you had to guess if Table, Pigeon, or Willow had the most water and you guessed Willow you'd be right! If you drink Pigeons please seek help.

An actual spring for once. Willow had shallow but quick flow and some actual solid lines of drip coming down off of moss. The actual source is a bit hard to get to, up a slimy shelf of unknown strength or a lot of steep up n down dropping in from the side but you can fill up just below the shelf. Not as much cowboy stuff here, a rusty trough well off to the side and then a little ladder/trellis and pipe up high on the hill. I guess it wasn't necessary.

A pot or nalgene under the drip would work, but something widemouthed (CNOC or Osprey bladder etc) for the flow would be better.

We skipped Wildband on the way back up, but didn't see anything flowing. The ground is THIRSTY though and nothing really flows for any length. Seems like a simple bypass climbers right to get up to it, and perhaps a game trail going up it.

A few seeps here past Pigeon that didn't seem promising along canyon walls.

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The author repeatedly lets you know he passed through here at more than 2mph and it shows. His ruins are granaries, his 2 granaries are more like 8-9, his cave + PET is one side canyon too far upcanyon, and he missed a ton of panels. FWIW the first few use trails after the alcove with petroglyphs aren't great but closer to table rock they're all worth visiting.

Trail

It weakens once you get past table rock, and we lost it a few times heading downstream. Coming back up we followed it better. It's a little overgrown but mostly just gets lost at crossings and when it is just above the main creek. It wouldn't take a ton of trail work to make it clearer, but it's simple terrain that isn't traveled much. When you're back on it it's pretty easy to follow, but the grasses and bushes around it make it hard to find once you're off it.

Trail never goes down the wash for any real amount of time, it just crosses over to the other side. At times it's tempting to walk down it (we did!) but eventually you'll hit a snarl of tumbleweed. It all works. OSM based trail position was surprisingly good for something this old / less used.

Misc Notes

Lots of vandalism from when it was a 4WD road, but they didn't stray too far. A decent amount of historical "inscriptions" including from the families of Swapp, Judd, Naile, and some others I can't place (M. Averett, F.S. Brown) to nearby landmarks.

A lot less arch downstream of table rock, but the canyon gets more interesting, so it's a decent trade off.

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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
A few purple flowers here and there.

dry Naile Canyon Dry Dry

dry Pigeon Canyon Dry Dry

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Pigeon Spring Dripping Dripping
No visible movement, half basketball of clear water.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Table Rock Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Spring far better

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Table Rock Spring Dripping Dripping
Deep clear trough of water. Technically dripping.

dry Toothpick Canyon Dry Dry
We didn't go upcanyon, but dry from the main canyon.


dry Wildband Canyon Dry Dry

dry Willow Canyon Dry Dry

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Willow Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
More than a quart a minute, but prob not a gallon and hardish to pickup.
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Feb 06 2025
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Hermit Boucher Topaz Grand Canyon Loop, AZ 
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The GC is overdone in terms of write-ups, but I figure I'll write up something quick for Boucher trail conditions and some out of the way water sources.

Day 1 - Mid morning start and took our time getting down, poking around the old stonework outhouses below Santa Maria (one had it's lock unscrewed), going out to lookout and breezy points (and a bit past I guess), and then the old tourist tramway ruins. From the drop from Hermit Flats through the Grand Staircase this was neater than the rest of the drops I've done (Bright Angel, Kaibab, Grandview) between the long traverses sometimes under undercuts, the view into upper hermit creek narrows, and the view of the granite staircase section. The last bit down to the tonto and the tonto itself was a bit sloggy and after all the rock on the trail my feet were a bit tired. A section before Breezy Point had slid out, and the trail wasn't clear but there's limited options to scope out and it was quick to figure out. Had the hermit creek camp to ourselves, woot.

Day 2 - we dayhiked down to the rapids, taking down a lot of stupid cairns along the way. Chatted with a group we saw cutting across the tonto from lookout the day before and met with a few rafters heading up canyon with a guide. Wandered the beach a bit then went upstream, seeing some cairns rebuilt. Knocked down some of the non creek crossing ones again. Chatted with NPS after the hike giving conditions and all the low stuff gets ripped out by a flash every once in a while, so they don't really care about keeping people on a set path to save vegetation etc. Poked up the little lower side canyon and a bit above the camp, then left properly around 2:45. It was warm, but we were in shade a lot - Travertine canyon was really neat but fairly hard to access. Some nice low impact viewpoints off the tonto. Ended up just staying in the camp ghetto area near the stone cabin in Boucher but again had it to ourselves.

Day 3 - day hiked down to Boucher rapids after chatting with the thru-hiker group we met the day before. The canyon is a bit less interesting than hermit, but the rapids had a lot of cool rock. River was low so we were able to head upstream a bit on some driftwood beaches from the eddy of the rapids. Got warm heading up canyon, we were going to poke up Topaz until it cliffed out, never did. Instead of dry camping at whites buttes that night we decided to poke up. Mostly boulder filler, but some neat spots and easy obstacles. Had the first significant bypass around 3pm, could have backtracked a bit and bushwhacked past up climber left, but decided it was time to drop. Got to camp a bit before sunset which was unusual this trip.

Day 4 - The Boucher trail was the only thing I researched ahead of time based on the description via NPS site aside from confirming water sources, opinions varied but the one trip report with good photos and a level head made it look straightforward with indirect exposure and a short pitch of Class 3. Routefinding was never an issue, a few times you have to stop and look around. A fast packer heading down to Boucher beach for the night had the same impression. The first push up to whites butte was in shadow, yay. The top of it up the drainage is straightforward chunky class 2 that has been blasted for convenience. The top of the second push up to Yuma Point was a bit rough, some slanted less than proper single track bits and then a simple class 3 short pitch of a few moves and then some more loose but non-consequential class 2. From Yuma on it was simple, though again some slanted sections and some inconsequential slides. Definitely better going up than down, but it'd be fine with decent shoes and trekking poles (we were wearing some nearly shot TX4's). Had some decent shade heading over, dripping springs creek was dry at the trail but didn't need water so just went for the push out. Had clouds for the final ascent from Hermit Flat, though the old 1950s knee+ high stonework steps were my least favorite part of the ascent. The vert is nicely broken up with traverses and we exited a bit before 5pm.

Have more water reports I did immediately after, but they're not available to sync - I guess just compressing this triplog to one day keeps the later ones from showing as addable?

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Hermit Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Good flow in creek, some nice cascades. E/W short side canyon had some pools, but no need to grab there.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Hermit Rapids Medium flow Medium flow

dry Travertine Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at both trail crossings, some water in the lowest section connecting to the Colorado.
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Turkey Creek - Day 4, AZ 
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A slightly warmer night, but luckily a noticeably warmer morning. We don't sleep in quite as much and break camp.

Heading back is simple, only a few liters of water to carry, most of our food eaten, etc. It's all uphill but very gentle and a known quantity. I enjoy the lighting, we check out the cowboy dam / ice skating rink, then get to our vehicle around 1:40pm. No data, but I can make a call and confirm 60 is open again, woot. Drive back is uneventful, I feel like I'm way more likely to die on the 101 loop than any backcountry scrambling.

We ate well (an extra pound of potato chips for the cold etc) so aren't super hungry on exit. We push on and our post hike dinner is Pad Thai Cafe in Glendale. Much better than Jalapenos heh.
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Jan 24 2025
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Turkey Creek & leftblank - Day 3, AZ 
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A low of 14f, our bags were good for it, but aside from a quick dashing out of the tent to make breakfast we zipped together and hung out until around 10am heh. Mostly frozen water, but enough already in containers for today's hike.

We headed out for █████████████████ via ████ which was a genuinely impressive spot and had been stumbled across by @grasshopper before. A lot of damage to walls - I'm sure a lot due to time and plant growth, but there are also clear signs of bovine disregard for the antiquities act. Found some smaller sherds a few with paint still on them.

Heading back late we decided to get to at least the first obstacle which had caught my eye earlier on the drainage down from redman to turkey. It was far less bushy than expected, with a lot of engaging boulders that made for a fun short class 2 experience, upping the game to bursts of chunky class 3 as we got closer to our destinations. Dropped the pack and poles and I stuffed my DJI Neo in my pocket.

Shortly thereafter we make it to what I had been calling "the giant's staircase" - phone controls for the drone are jank but they work, so hey this is fun. Send it up, send it down, then decide to head up tracing the route that looks like it'd be doable. Goes well if slightly jerkily, then it loses connection over the top. No big deal, RTH time!

Except, uh, that's not available when just running from a phone hotspot. The app helpfully tells me to "walk closer". I hear it buzzing out it's battery.

After some fussing at the bottom I'm in go mode and pop up and grab the signal in two minutes and guide it to the bottom. One bench from the top, and pumpkin it might as well grab the top so I do. Then more carefully head back down. A lot of short chunky runs, only two spots where I properly downclimbed facing the wall. I'm in a pair of pretty thrashed La Sportiva TX4 mids, good boots for this type of thing but shot soles but make it down fine, with only one pitch being anything near extended.

We pop down into the main creek and make it back to camp a little later, but no headlamps needed. Another cold night approaches...
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Turkey Creek - Day 2, AZ 
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This was the colder and windier day, so we decided to see what was different in lower turkey creek and fill in the blanks. From camp we could stay high above the creek and have an easy walk through open forest which mostly made up for not getting as far down as we wanted. Things got a little slower as it tightened up between 5556 and Redman Mesa, but there was only one real obstacle and it was easily dealt with.

Bizarre seeing "upper turkey creek falls" with just a few pools, but it definitely made travel a lot easier and faster with hardly any water. We took the same bypass as last year below the big "lower turkey creek falls", without snow it's a very obvious heavily used cowtrack that passes over some old fallen barbed wire.

As per before, the creek was now flowing well. Hmmm. A lot of ice, but steady water flowing under it. Heading upstream we noticed seeps and springs coming up off of the north wall where there the blackberry brambles and holly. The falls itself was dry, but with a frozen over pool I couldn't resist walking around on to stand under the falls itself, and admire more bizarre bubbles in the ice. :) Heading downstream the heavy winds of the night before the "tiger stripe cascade" truly striking! Slightly elevated radiation levels on the pretty pink/purple slabs, but nothing to set off alarms.

Once in Salome Creek we decided to pop down to where USGS shows and old trail going from JR Ranch to FR 2749, I noticed some posts, tin cans, barbed wire etc in this area before. No trace of the trail from some admittedly modest poking around aside from some old limbed trees following the creek itself.

Once again the water flowing out of the E/W turkey / little turkey / salome was a bit more than the water above it in the "main" salome / cataract creek N/S drainage (maps have conflicting names). More growth below the junction and as one got lower in the E/W turkey creek. Saw two probably smallish raccoon sized creatures, dark brown but with no markings I could tell from a distance with a slowish loping gate head down the slickrock and out of sight. Intriguing.

Exited salome/cataract at our usual spot, and came across an interesting partial carcass. Having done that stretch of road a bit recently decided to see if a cairn along the road 33.91777, -111.03389 was the bottom of the old ranch trail we caught on Redman Mesa then wandered off of. Shortly before heading up we came across a pack of Javelinas. They were rather skittish and had no tusks I could see but were fairly noisy. After that drama, the cairn turned out to go! It's a fairly followable path with a lot of ooooold limbed trees and at one point an R and an arrow carved into a tree. Cow maintained, but it took us up to 33.92202, -111.03397 where we had passed by a large cairn near some dead limbed trees (drop from the trees if heading down).

We wandered around Redman Mesa a bit before wiggling down the SE side to the drainage that borders it, then back to camp at a reasonable hour. It felt like it was going to be a cold night...
 
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Turkey Creek - Day 1, AZ 
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Bits of 60 that we needed were closed for the day, so we ended up taking the northern route to the intersection of 288 and FR2752. I was up late wrapping up work the night before, so we packed that morning and made it to the TH around 3pm. Lots of used toilet paper, some broken glass, and a baseball around the parking - overlanders eh? Coming into Young from the north and then down 288 is more time on dirt roads, but without any of the steep turns like the bit below McFadden Peak or the pass where pavement ends coming in from the south - a potential safer if longer exit if conditions got worse at some point.

We again lucked out with gentle terrain in the Ancha - FR 2752 and 2755 were in pretty great shape for the region, with some rough sections (especially the fords). But easy gentle walking. Passed by an old cowboy dam, what looked like a fairly intensive corral, and then some impressive (non-functional) stainless storage tanks welded on the spot w/ residential pump cover and all. Some horse droppings, fairly recent OHV tracks, and a variety of shotgun shells on the roads. FR 2776 had large trees growing in the road and hasn't been used as a proper road for quite some time.

The river bed itself was surprisingly pleasant - a little tedious with rocks everywhere and a handful of nice slickrock sections. A few frozen solid puddles here and there, but not much water. We got to our target zone (the flat area with large trees to either side between 5575 and 5556) a bit before sunset (around 4.5 miles) and easily found a nice place to set up camp. Ideally we would have gone further downstream for earlier sun and shorter commutes the next two days, but it worked fine.
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Copper Mtn Points - Lower/UpperGlobe, AZ
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Finally a proper hike, we wrapped up the last remaining fork of a major drainage dropping down from the rim of the "Copper Points" - something that'd been on my mind for a while. :)

The beginning was a similar route as before when we went up the other fork: FR 667 to the tank, cowpath to FR 236, then up the drainage after walking the road a short while.

Similar conditions up to the falls with a class 3 bypass below the major fork in the canyon, aside from there only being two muddy cow feces filled pools. The falls itself was dry, we were curious to see if we could just go up it directly, but at the actual pourover handholds were poor enough it didn't seem worth trying to friction up it so we did something similar to our bypass last time.

Above the falls there were occasional pools of water, varying in quality but far more than the two below.

The southern fork started off a little rougher than the northern one - we were expecting to have a nasty time of it but it was actually simpler than the northern fork! A handful of fun easy scrambles (or bypasses) around falls that were definitely easier with there not being any flowing water. It wasn't as brushy as the northern fork, a few times you had to push past branches of a tree growing in the middle, or some plants along the side, or up a bypass, but no sustained bush bashing/thrashing. I was expecting to have to bash out of it up to FR 694 when it leveled out, but the end was quite pleasant and often had a "red rock carpet" laid out. :)

Aesthetically and friendliness were both better than expected. If you don't mind a little light scrambling this is quite a nice loop, it was easier with no water though it's hard to judge aesthetics compared to the upper fork being so dry.

We decided to take a XC cut down from FR 2729 vs going down some of the terrible rocky sections of FR236a - this went pretty smoothly, around 2/3 of the way down we found a very solid cow path that dropped us just a little above the drainage we went up earlier. Interestingly before cutting down to drop out we found a DEEP somewhat wiggly hole drilled into rock near an old cairn. Mining sample? It'd be too deep to be bracing a pole. Radiacode wasn't alarming in the area, but it was a little spicier than most background radiation.

No radiacode alarms this trip, background radiation fluctuated between 1/2 and a bit over 2x of a house in the suburbs of Phoenix.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Lower Copper Mtn Points Cyn - Sierra Ancha Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
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Malicious GapGlobe, AZ
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An overcast morning meant it took a while to warm up for the day - we started out towards a promising cliff band just east of peak 5525 (which we had been on top of and then hiked down the drainage to the west of it in a previous year). My partner peeled off due to recovering more slowly than me and wanting to be able to do an actual hike the next day.

Easy XC over, and some really interesting formations. There didn't seem to be a non-technical way up to the top through the middle of it, but you could do some light scrambling up into some of the larger drainage gaps between pillars and could easily gain the ridge to either side of the band. From there I just checked out the large mesa/plateau SW of it (5080+) and then wiggled down off of it back to camp.

I'd come back and poke around this again, and check out the giant cleft below 5525 from the bottom at some point as a fairly lazy day in the area. :)

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Malicious Gap Water Fall Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
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Juniper Canyon & Maverik Basin Recon, AZ 
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We were recovering from the flu, so decided to go back to an old favorite area and vancamp and play things by ear depending on energy levels. This includes a bit from the afternoon/evening before when we got to the area.

I was curious about this area off of FR 71, so this seemed like a good time to slowly wander up some hills and do some aerial recon. :) Overall it wasn't as interesting as the land east of 71, but there are some areas of interest:

* As per @grasshopper's earlier explorations, there's some rock wall ruins on the USGS peak 5074.
* There are very similar ruins on peak 5097, just east of Cane Spring.
* Some neat pillars along the rim of Maverick Basin just north of peak 5097.
* The unnamed spring along Walnut Creek just north of FR 1413 has some nice slickrock and modest pillars. There were pools of water below this spring in Walnut Creek.
* There's an interesting little badlands area of rolling rock near FR 1414 NW of Cane Spring.
* A large cairn near the SW corner of 5595 that reminded me of some of the old ones along the copper points rim.

Occasional blips of slickrock in creek beds or interesting rock formations, but overall I'd put this lower down the priority list than the stuff west of it. :)
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Walnut Creek Spring (Upper) Dripping Dripping
A few large pools below this spring in the slickrock.
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Lazy morning and an easy hike out with a reasonable amount of water and most of the food eaten. Didn't bring a pair of pruning shears to clear manzanita along the #55 trail but it was fine to just brush past.

Jalapenos in Superior was never amazing, but the quality has gone down. The super fries went from having steak strips to burnt ground beef, no sour cream, and less cheese. My partner said the fish tacos tasted like fish sticks with iceberg lettuce and a tasteless sauce. The BBQ place in town is nice, but pricier.

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Same start as the day before, but we turned north up Salome Creek. The nice open slick rock (that area I first encountered it was just a nice spot) gave way to an overgrown (if gentle bashing) creekbed that opened up into a few nice spots.

While neither Cataract or Indian Camp Canyon have any bucket list features, I really enjoyed them both - ICC had a lot of nice pillars, and all the pines in Cataract gave it a nice vibe (mountain forest up high, SW slickrock down low). Both were easy to navigate which was appreciated. It'd be fun to come back when they were flowing as there would be a lot of charming cascades with little to no navigation issues.

Cows don't like rock, I imagine their hooves don't get great traction on it (I've seen a deer move well on talus, but it didn't seem like it was having a lot of fun). A lot more signs of them up near the top of cataract and on large raised benches near exits on the creeks than the visually nicer sections, though a dropping could be found nearly anywhere.

Scouted out a cut from ICC once it petered out and had a surprisingly pleasant wiggle of ledges, drainages, and open pasture up to FR 486. After some hemming and hawing we decided to wiggle over onto Redman Mesa, which had a nice very "western" vibe. After seeing some cows in the distance admiring the same tall flowering Yucca we had passed by earlier, we got some views down into Turkey Creek then went down a cairned trail. Well started going down it, then went on a cow track, and then just winged it. Turned out fine, and dropped out only a 7 minute walk to camp!
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Not the earliest start as the lows in that drainage were well below forecasts (cold air sinks), which was expected, but not quite it being 24 instead of 37.

Dropped off of FR 2747 at 33.92018, -111.04061 and wiggled our way down to Salome Creek via hoof paths and open pasture to Salome Creek and proceeded downstream.

JR Canyon really caught my eye last year, but we didn't have time to poke up it before. The lower stretch was great, but odd to see it go from strong cascades to small pools - though the contrast was IMO more interesting than just going from really heavy flow to a less interesting one. :) It got a little less interesting after a bit, then picked up to nice slickrock again. Right around the private property boundary it got overgrown, so great timing! Got some nice reflections off of pools in here, and had fun sliding across one well frozen pool.

From here we went down Salome Creek - really nice open slickrock (similar to the confluence area around Little Turkey) extended on for a while, then we got down to some nice rolly granite. Shortly after turning the corner my Radiacode 103 started chirping - this continued on and off for most of this section. Mostly just count alarms (hey there's something to look at!), but it wasn't uncommon for the dose to be a few times higher than background radiation, and one (very visually striking section) it hit over 1µSv. Not terrible to pass by, but I'd not camp on granite in this area! In between the short rolly bits it was fairly overgrown and bouldery, but not too bad. More tedious than challenging. This was the only section the entire trip that triggered an alarm from it.

We were nearing the creek dropping from Thoroughbred and had to do a high bypass - the section looked fairly rough and given short days we just decided to do a more direct XC cut back to FR 7250 / the nearby tank. It was pretty smooth, mostly open pasture terrain and a few clumps of mostly open forest. We hit the old cleared / limbed trail (now cow maintained) below the tank and then road walked back to camp. Next year we could drop down thoroughbred and check out the rest of Salome until it hits the rapps, or poke up Park from there or something. :)
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Satellite showed no snow and water levels are super low so we decided to swing over to Phoenix earlier than usual. Driving out of town New Year's Day morning was great, hardly any traffic. Some dude was puking in the shoulder of 60.

No snow visible anywhere on the drive up or on trail. We decided to shortcut in a bit by walking up FR 2770 and XCing up to the #55 trail. Parked at a wide dirt area off 288 33.88902, -110.96459 and followed FR 2770 until we passed a wash with some corrugated drainage tubing 33.89063, -110.97156, then cut left on a very faint road a few hundred feet and headed up towards the trail. Rolly fairly open scrub forest, we got lucky and came across a log over an old barbed wire fence at 33.89044, -110.97331 and then hit trail, passing a few old large cairns.

I brought my old Gregory Baltoro 70 pack out of storage for water carries in the SW this year, and and uh, it worked well after sitting around for the decade I've been using lighter packs. Went up with 11.4L of water, a drone with all it's accessories, and an Anker 737 battery to recharge the drone batteries. The dumbest pack I've carried, but kept it slow and made it to camp fine (my partner brought in all the food and 4.5L of water herself).

McFadden Creek was dry everywhere we saw it aside from some tannic but clear looking puddles below the striking falls alongside the #55 trail (we call it triple falls). Park Creek had a few pools but was mostly dry - one above Park Falls was disgusting and smelled like a cow tank, you could scramble down above into the intermediary ledge system and get a pool of frozen but seemingly non-disgusting water.

Park Tank was.... low.

Rock Spring actually looked less disgusting than last year - I'd assumed it'd be more pressured by cattle.

Turkey and Little Turkey were dry where FR 2747 crossed them, but had pools and/or flow in other places. We kicked up some cow patties out of the way and set up our camp. A new looking fire ring off to the side, one of the old ones from last year had been destroyed. Neither were particularly well built, but the new one is further off from the main camping area at least. :)

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Some clear pools, best bet are smaller ones that usually are flowing vs the deeper permanent pools. Some frozen over.

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Some clear pools, best bet are smaller ones that usually are flowing vs the deeper permanent pools. Some frozen over.

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Some quite clear pools in here, many frozen.

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Flowing better than Salome Creek above this oddly enough.

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Dry aside from small pools below falls to the side of the #55 trail.

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Some pools, mostly dry.

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Some pools below the falls, one above that was disgusting.

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Some pools below the falls, one above that was disgusting.

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Maybe a little over 25% but not much.

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Maybe a quart per minute. Had some flow out of it. No actual cow feces in the pool this time.

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No flow, decent pool below upper falls

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Dry at the FR crossings. Some pools above and below.

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Pools only.
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Day 3 of 3

We headed up a ridge from camp towards what I had scouted would look like a nice drop down to the old AZT to make a loop of things. Some good views of the upper part of the Butte, though the lower tip looked to be the most interesting. At one point we passed what we assumed was an old boundary marker, as it wasn't at a natural summit.

There's a pretty sweet gravel dry camp around 33.17596, -111.11221 with a little summit just SE of it.

Stumbled across a game trail at the top of a grassy ramp we saw earlier around 33.17631, -111.11330 and followed it down some steep rather garbage terrain (small rocks on packed clay) that was tedious. Indirect exposure, but never felt at risk... just not a ton of fun. I'd very much recommend trekking poles. It'd be easier heading up, but route-finding would probably be an issue. We passed some old stonework at one point, and multiple piles of deer droppings. With much wiggling we made our way back to the old AZT, which was mostly overgrown but fairly followable. The creek near it had a much lighter flow - we still had water as I wasn't sure if we'd hit more and didn't want to gamble it. :)

AMAZING views of the rincon and canyon walls coming down this - I was just expecting an easier out and some variety, but watching the Ricon get closer and closer made the garbagey climb down better.

We were back at our vehicle a bit before 2pm, and the drive out was much easier as we knew what was coming and gravity was working with us on the sections that gave us pause before.

I treated a nice lunch at the Silver Saloon instead of our usual Jalapenos given all that had happened, and then it was back to Pheonix. :) Despite all the setbacks my partner's conclusion was that the worst part was the drive in lol. Check Day 1 for a roads report.
 
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Day 2 of 3

We broke camp and stashed most of our gear hanging on a tree, unsure how much time we'd spend below exploring vs dropping south on the feature we were up on. I carried a pretty light pack for day hiking, yay.

Took a different route into the main canyon, this whole general area near camp is pretty easy to find something that'll work in terms of getting up on the butte. Really enjoyed when it opened up again and kept on exploring up canyon until we came upon the falls that most people stop at. It'd be climbable from the left with some chunky holds if you really wanted to, but I'd be worried about a chunk falling off. Again a real nice mix of vibes - open rolling bedrock, pasture with views in the distance, neat folds of rock along a cascade, a quasi almost slot canyony section.

We explored the area in a broad loop above the creek from White Water Spring and loved the area. Some truly bizarre rock with contrasting nice greenery. The haze which helped keep the day cooler at this point had burned off, so we were hiding in shade every once in a while. After thoroughly roaming here / checking out little viewpoints we dropped back down to the main canyon via a nice grassy ramp and checked out a side canyon that looked promising from above. We could have gone up it further, but called it at some wet falls and an unpleasant bypass on the side given the time.

Hopped back up to our gear (no upper exploratory time) and remade camp. Some mosquitos buzzing around in the evening, but they were newly hatched and not aggressive. We noticed some larvae in pools, so White Canyon might not be as pleasant fairly soon.
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Roads

North Battle Axe Road was basically sedan friendly up until the cow tank at the private property around 33.15836, -111.05586.

The hard right there went over some rutted and uneven terrain that was fine in a Subaru, then over some loose sandy bits were were happy to have AWD for, and then hit the pucker moment of the drive in - a large washout cutting into the left side of the road with a big hole dug out by people gunning it on the right uphill. With some scouting and hand signals we made it across fine (though bottomed the suspension on a tire).

Walnut Creek Wash was dry and pretty straightforward, a few short sections with deep ruts we chose to ride the center/median and outside of, then some minor drops that you'd want to be paying some attention on. Pulled a number of rocks out of the road.

Got to the gate and parked near it out of the main flow of traffic and respected the no trespassing signs.

Day 1 of 3

On a pretty standard rock hop water crossing I heard a loud splash and turned to see my partner sideways in a somewhat gross pool. ‘If I bend my finger blood sprays everywhere’ isn't what you want to hear when starting a backpacking trip. I unloaded her pack to dry things out and she cleaned out the deep cut with a half liter or so of filtered water, then we waited to see what would happen figuring we’d call it and drive back. It started clotting, so after a while we decided to continue on and I transferred some weight to my pack. Don't test out your new pr3scr1pt10n sunglasses going off trail, they can have depth of field issues.

The canyon itself was very interesting - a great mix of little cascades, pools, carved rock, and greenery up close and big walls on the sides. A little rough, but not a ton of bush bashing (thankfully) and the occasional mantles onto rocks etc were more fun Class 2 problem solving than real challenges, though we were slowed down a bit. I wandered off to check out some overhangs, and popped up onto the middle band around 33.17971, -111.09281 (what my partner dubbed Snail Falls) to get some views etc.

A bit under two hours until sunset I'm getting somewhat worried on camping, so after looking at topo/slope angle shading/world imagery we pop out of the canyon to check out some likely terrain and pass some great little pools above the falls. A short while of scouting later we have a nearly flat wide gravel area with great views. Someone else had found it before, we packed out the single piece of trash and noticed a large pile of rocks from where it had been groomed. A (very) seasonal water source nearby provided some water to filter/boil, and after dinner we went to bed in the tent (fly off for views) and had a very moderate low around 40f.

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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Some gorgous CA poppies, and some purple flowers I don't know off the top of my head.

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had more water than the main white canyon branch where both met
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Park Creek Canyon to Reynold's TH, AZ 
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Sierra Ancha Creek Bagging Day 4 of 4 - Exit

Well, those falls were quite nice, and it'd be a shame to only see them above eh? The morning before we saw a tree filled gully (33.90496, -111.01893) that was probably a coin toss for being passable filled in by erosion or having a cliff out half way down. With everything packed up, we left our packs on a tree and checked out it. Kept skiers right along the wall coming down (you can improv the top and bottom fine) we dropped into some lichen covered talus above waters edge. After some short but brutal bush bashing, we were right across from yet another amazing waterfall grotto. Well worth the blood price to get there.

Back up the way we came, and onto what could be slimy clay hell road back was actually muddy but fine. Between lingering snow, rocks, and duff it was soggy but never an inch of clay clinging to the bottom of the boot and we made good time.

Good enough time that I busted out my Gomboy 210 and limbed some obstructing branches, cleared some catclaw, and got rid of some of the deadfall on the trail. Probably still a dozen or so trees, but they're easy to step over. Cleared two areas that were causing bypasses and lifted a lot of lotting limbs and trunks off the path. Whew. #55 is a mellow rolling trail through mixed pine and oak that made for a nice wind down vibe.

The trailhead was a muddy mess as all the snow in it had melted, and we were glad to have M+S tires and AWD to get back onto 288. 288 itself was far simpler than when we came in and had dried out aside from a few spots above Sawmill Dispersed.

Routefinding on #55 Notes:

When the trail turns 90 from E/W to N/S bordering the ranch, cut off of it into forest for the creek the feeds into McFadden, then take the creek back down the trail (or go up the creek and then hang a right if entering). We tried following it on the way up, got lost, and thrashed through berry bramble. This bypass is far better until the bramble gets lopped.

The first creek crossing from Reynolds TH has been cleared fairly recently on the east side. We got off route on the west side after crossing (went high when the path follows alongside some bramble) so did some quick limbing and sawing so that's a bit clearer and should look like a path now. The trail sort of does a 180 a few steps after crossing at some small trees.

Heading out we came across the signed TH, which is at 33.87458, -110.97708. Past it are some dirt roads with fire rings, then finally a closed to vehicle traffic path (which had the sign run over) that pops you onto the side of 288 at 33.87305, -110.97491 with another closed to vehicles for restoration sign right next to the creek. A short walk along the road saves you from having to jump the barbed wire into the campground, ford the creek, then look for the trail if you start from the Reynold's Creek TH like us. The proper Circle Ranch TH is described on the HAZ #55 page.
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Feb 16 2024
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Sierra Ancha Creek Bagging Day 3 of 4 - Park Creek Canyon

We debated heading over to see more of Upper Salome & JR via Cataract, but figured we'd have enough near home to keep us occupied. After following the road back out for a few minutes there was an easy drop to the rolling bedrock above the upper falls of park canyon. We enjoyed this from above and on the side, then saw a likely place to bypass on the south which worked out fine ~33.90502, -111.01733. This was probably easier just plunge stepping into powder, but should be fine dry. Looking at Salome Creek - Upper Loop you can bypass on the north side as well. We explored this middle ground area and really wanted to get a look at the lower falls, but figured we could do that in the evening.

We exited then followed FR 2747 to the junction with FR 2750 to Thoroughbred tank. From the tank we found a cow path heading where we were interested in going, and were puzzled by limbed trees. These continued past the crossing of thoroughbred creek up to a pasture, where the cows went their own way but arrows carved into a tree pointed the way to what I had assumed was a drainage on topo. Following cut limbs we dropped down to Park Creek, marveling at the time someone put into this horse path many many decades ago. Shortly upstream was what we dubbed Crescent Falls (flowing more dramatically than in [ photo ] , it's odd seeing spots we named as went along either dry or trickles in previous trip reports). This area is ROUGH with high water. We wanted to stay dry and weren't geared for hiking up water, but with the current and lack of visibility that wouldn't be a great option. We went up to the next cascade, which was an interesting problem, then up into the brush - and came across what was well over a dozen old barrel hoops in an overgrown clearing. wtf? pushed on a bit further, and higher, then gave up. Another come back when it's drier thing perhaps. Took some cow paths down just above Crescent, poked our head into the salmon and grey colored side creek feeding into it, and dropped downstream to a nice grey cascade and called it a day. Had second lunch and exited back to camp with more than an hour before sunset and happened to find ourselves at exactly this spot and enjoyed the falls we saw from above that morning for quite a while before heading back to camp.
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Park Turkey Little Turkey JR Cataract Crks, AZ 
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Sierra Ancha Creek Bagging Day 2 of 4 - Park Creek Canyon to Turkey, Lower Little Turkey, Upper Salome, tip of JR, and Cataract Canyons

Cold night (25F) but well within the range of shoulder season alpine gear and things warmed up quickly once the sun hit, which was very early. Yay for campsites in open fairly level areas! Poked around the rim near camp a bit to look at the falls, but figured we'd prioritize the turkey creek area while the snowmelt was still optimal.

We went down a soggy but easily passable FR 2747 to the confluence of the turkeys (there's a spot between them and off to the side with an old fire ring) and started wandering up the main canyon trying to get to the pillar gardens we could see on the way over. We climbed up a few bypasses then decided to call it quits and come back with lower water levels sometime and exited high on cow paths, which involved less Class 3 but more bushwhacking.

Lower Turkey was fairly unremarkable but easy boulder hopping from the road until we found the falls! Wow! Some old fencing was strewn across it including a bolt. We thought we saw a possible ramp down the cliff band along the southern / skiers left side. And kept going. Past rock spring creek. A little after we passed a spot that looked promising we decided to give it a go and came across some deer tracks that led us down around 33.91348, -111.03584. A few switches, then a long dropping traverse up canyon to about 33.91399, -111.03457. Up canyon wasn't as interesting with many trees bare, but pretty quick going and the bottom of the falls was a spectacular grotto where we had lunch. Some snow and ice, but very localized depending on slope facing and shade.

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Back down below from where we dropped in were some spectacular cascades and gorgeous pink/purple and orange/black swirling slick rock. We named this [ photo ] Tiger Stripe Cascade. Some obvious shelves to camp on around the confluence with Upper Salome, all of which were covered in cow pies.

Debated routes at this point, it looked like one could exit SW up into bush hell, and we weren't sure about dropping further down Salome, so looked at Topo / World Imagery Sat / Slope Angle shading and decided to push up. The bottom of JR Canyon was enchanting, but after a quick peek up we continued up Cataract to our estimated exit point. Easy going, and a neat overhanging fall off on the side along with rippling bedrock and cascades. A quick scramble out onto the shelf above the lower canyon wall, girding ourselves for a bushwhack hell up to a pasture and we stumbled across a cow path at 33.91679, -111.04318 that led us fairly effortlessly up to the pasture at 33.91730, -111.04290. An easy but underwhelming walk back to camp in time to make dinner and bundle up in the tent.
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We were going to do something else, I happened to check Sentinel 2 imagery the day before and snowpack looked perfect so we impromptued this, it's been in the back of my mind after seeing Oregon Hiker & Grasshopper's 2022 trip. I'll add in photosets later. All in all an amazing trip, and we went into it fairly blind (it's been fun finding a few overlapping trips and comparing notes here as I'm writing this up).

Sierra Ancha Creek Bagging Day 1 of 4 - Reynold's TH to Park Creek Canyon

Arrived late at the trailhead around 1pm - 288 was a bit muddy on the edges, but fine to drive. The Reynold's Creek parking lot was damp with some snow but perfectly fine. Patches of snow here or there on trail - missed the start of #55 but found it again and didn't have any issues following it aside from the two stream crossings near berry patches. Passed by a nice set of falls just off the trail, then hit our first serious snow as it tightened up. Nice and powdery, but we lost the trail where it crossed the stream, then eventually found it again. Decent snow cover around Park Tank as expected, we cut off onto FR 2747 past the old trailer. The road dried out as it climbed away from Park Creek. Quickly found a nicely sized slab of bedrock to set up camp at in the dusk to the sound of roaring waterfalls nearby! Lots of flat spots of rock to set up on in this area if you wander a bit, which is far superior to clearing some (at the time) quite muddy ground of rocks.

Routefinding on #55 Notes:

When the trail turns 90 from E/W to N/S bordering the ranch, cut off of it into forest for the creek the feeds into McFadden, then take the creek back down the trail (or go up the creek and then hang a right if entering). We tried following it on the way up, got lost, and thrashed through berry bramble. This bypass is far better until the bramble gets lopped.

The first creek crossing from Reynolds TH has been cleared fairly recently on the east side. We got off route on the west side after crossing (went high when the path follows alongside some bramble) so did some quick limbing and sawing so that's a bit clearer and should look like a path now. The trail sort of does a 180 a few steps after crossing at some small trees.

Heading out we came across the signed TH, which is at 33.87458, -110.97708. Past it are some dirt roads with fire rings, then finally a closed to vehicle traffic path (which had the sign run over) that pops you onto the side of 288 at 33.87305, -110.97491 with another closed to vehicles for restoration sign right next to the creek. A short walk along the road saves you from having to jump the barbed wire into the campground, ford the creek, then look for the trail if you start from the Reynold's Creek TH like us. The proper Circle Ranch TH is described on the HAZ #55 page.
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This (I assume) was around 200ft higher than it appears on maps, and was along FR 2747 at 33.90946, -111.02397

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