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Metate Trail - Spur Cross - 35 members in 185 triplogs have rated this an average 3.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Dec 14 2024
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57 male
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 Goodyear, AZ
Spur Cross Dragonfly Loop, AZ 
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NightstalkerTriplogs 1,741
Hiking5.30 Miles 575 AEG
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Great hike with Carey, Christina, and Yolanda. Ran into Park Ranger Kevin who took us on a side trail to some petroglyphs. Kevin also showed us a cool mountain lion video from one of the parks trail camera's. Didn't see anyone on the first half of the hike, plenty of hikers and 4 bikers on the second half. Stopped to chat with the horses on the way back to the parking lot.
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Oct 19 2024
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Metate Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking8.74 Miles 1,469 AEG
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My 1st trip to Spur Cross in multiple years. Also my 1st hike in the greater PHX area in about 6 months. Did a loop from AT. Therefore, you know it wasn't my idea. 😜

Temps were better than any of those from all these lengthy drives. Too bad it won't stay yet. Least cars I've.seen before in this lot. Paid our $3 and jumped on Spur Cross.

We then started climbing up Elephant Mtn trail. The high point is at 3,150 ft. You can see where the daring leave the trail from here. I marked a way point. 🤪 Next we ascended some stairs. As we neared the parking lot, we veered up Metate, followed by the old road back to the parking area.
 
Jun 06 2024
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 Phoenix,Az
Metate Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking2.53 Miles 144 AEG
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Wasn’t looking for much, but I wanted to do something more than the short loop that I did with my sister. Decided to drive over to Spur Cross, which I seldom ever visit. Surprised to see that my last stated visit to Metate had been over 10 years ago. :o It’s a long drive, but there is no excuse for that. Several improvements to the TH since my last visit, (which was a little over a year ago doing the Elephant Trail). They have installed yellow parking curb-like stops which definitely minimizes the free for all nature of their parking area. They have also created a “picnic area”. They are not using your typical park table and benches. They were circular and looked to be made out of cement - the sort of table you would see in someone’s backyard. There was no shade in the area, so imagine they get hot quickly. Finally, they have created an official trail that goes along side the entry road that takes users to the beginning of the Dragonfly Trail. This is a popular trail and there is only parking for about 6 cars at this TH, so this makes sense.

The hike was uneventful, though I was surprised to encounter 10 hikers (2 groups of 5) on this short loop. Went in on Spur Cross and took Metate back. Spur Cross is not my favorite trail, especially the first mile going north. Basically a wide, rocky road. However, I enjoyed the views looking down on the Cave Creek Wash. Ironically, an hour earlier, my sister and I had just talked about how all the desert color had disappeared on the Ocotillo/Sidewinder Trails. Not the case here, the saguaros, ocotillos and ironwoods were still blooming nicely. The Metate is a much more intimate path offering some impressive views of towering sagauros, an actually metate that’s been there for centuries, a man-made created pond and some old paved foundations from years gone by. A pictorial history of the area. Today I was fortunate to see a doe walking near the old foundations.

Enjoyable hike. Gnats were the only drawback.
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Mar 19 2024
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Trail 1533 Loop TNF, AZ 
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This hike started in the parking lot of the Spur Cross Ranch Conservation Area and was an attempt to follow one of @LosDosSloFolks favorite routes so I used the triplog name he coined for this hike. It was a last-minute change in plan after asking about creek crossing conditions at the toll booth. I didn't have his GPS track on my ancient Garmin Oregon 450 so relied on my memory - always a risky but sometimes rewarding endeavor.

The hike proceeds up the Spur Cross Trail and follows old FS48 along the creek after exiting the park into the Tonto National Forest. The trail crosses the creek 4 times after exiting the park on the way to its intersection with Cave Creek Trail #4 (also marked with an old sign for FS1533). The 4 creek crossings all had strategically placed rocks to enable a dry crossing. At that intersection the track starts a loop, if going counterclockwise, following Trail #4 to an intersection with an old mining road. It then follows that old road north along the east side of Cave Creek Canyon and eventually drops down into the canyon to connect with the trail which follows old FS48 to close the loop and return to Spur Cross. I decided to take the loop in the clockwise direction so proceeded north along the creek on old FS48. After a short distance I came upon an intersection with an old road which starts a steep climb up the east side of the canyon. The ancient topo map in my Garmin shows this road connecting with Trail #4 and the old road used by @LosDosSloFolks.

It was at this point where I decided to explore up this old road to change my loop direction to counter-clockwise. There was an interesting area to explore part way up the trail so I went off-trail to look for evidence of ancient habitation and what appeared from a distance to be a small arch in a rock outcropping part way up the hill. No evidence of the ancients was found and the arch turned out to be the skeleton of a Saguaro which had collapsed against the side of the rock outcropping. After getting back on track I followed the remainder of the loop with excursions to two viewpoints overlooking the canyon. A boulder with a few interesting ancient petroglyphs and some initials scratched in it from more recent times was found on the 2nd viewpoint.

Photo-op highlights of the trek included a standoff with two Javelina who were blocking the trail, A Mallard and his mate perched on a small boulder in a pond-like section of Cave Creek, and a Gila Monster encounter along the Metate Trail. The desert greenery was at its spring-time best with the hillsides covered with green grass and all the desert plants thoroughly enjoying the temporary end of the drought. However it was still a little early for the wildflowers but I did encounter a few patches of Mexican Golden Poppies.

People encounters were few to none after passing into the TNF. However in the Park I encountered a group of horse-back riders following a crusty looking guide who kept his Chiwawa guard dog perched behind him on his horse's back. I mentioned to one of the young ladies trailing behind out of his earshot that only his seeing-eye dog knew where they were going. She replied without smiling, "Yes, I know!" In another attempt at trail humor, I asked two Park trail maintenance employees, who were trailing the horses with shovels in hand, if it was their job to follow the horses and clear the trail of horse poop. One of the two, who looked almost as crusty as the horseback guide, responded loudly "I don't shovel s***!" My attempts at trail humor are possibly an explanation of why most of my hikes are solo.
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A few patches of Mexican Golden Poppies on south facing hillsides.
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Mar 03 2024
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 Phoenix, Az
Metate Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking3.60 Miles 75 AEG
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Hiked a ways up the Spur Cross and then returned via the Metate. Fair amount of water in the creek and plenty of dogs their enjoying themselves. Lots of horseback riders out too. The Metate had lots of Dichelostemma capitatum. Wendi spotted what could only be described as a baby 3" king snake, still not sure though, I'll try to post a pic.
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Dec 25 2023
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Trail 1533 Loop TNF, AZ 
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LosDosSloFolksTriplogs 601
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Christmas morning hike. I had to get out of the house today to stay sane. CCW double lasso loop close to home that has good vistas and a show of fall color. The high point has a nice rock ledge overlook with great views. It was always a favorite of Cathy's. :)

1533 is actually a forest road but I refer to it as a trail since it is 95% single track. The Forest Service has awarded a new 10 year grazing contract to someone and the trail has been udderly destroyed by the cows. Pardon the pun. Not to mention all the nice smooshy cairns that are now all over the place.

Still a fun hike but the tread is treacherous. Had the trails to myself and didn't see anyone until a got back in on the Metate Trail close to the parking lot. Saw a handful of people gold panning at the first crossing as I was finishing up. I doubt that it is allowed but I hope they struck it rich on Christmas. The parking area for The Jewel of the Creek was an absolute cluster wad as I drove out. There were maybe 25 cars vying for 12 spots. Cue the Benny Hill music. :lol: Huge lot just 300 yards to the north.
Merry Christmas to everyone!
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Substantial as far as Cottonwoods and Sycamores go.

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Dec 10 2023
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Cottonwood Trail 247-247A Loop, AZ 
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My daughter requested that I recommend a trail for a family hike and I came up with this one out of the Spur Cross Trailhead thanks to a triplog posted by @LosDosSloFolks. It was one of the few trails out of Spur Cross that they hadn't done before. The Spur Cross parking lot was nearly full when we started at 11:00am but once we got on 247A we didn't see another person until returning on the Spur Cross Trail following Cave Creek. I tested my fitness by trying to keep up with my 2 grandkids on the first uphill sections and had some success. But I was lagging behind on the last half of the loop and got back to the parking lot about 15 minutes after them.
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Metate Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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Took David and Ben to Spur cross for another wander round.
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Sep 25 2023
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Took David and Ben to Spur Cross for a wander round.
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Cave Creek Trail #4Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.68 Miles 1,349 AEG
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we wanted a hike near cave creek so john picked out the [ Cave Creek Indian Ruins at Chalk Canyon ]
set out around 0520 or so on spur cross trail, then cave creek trail
everything past the 1533 turnoff at the gate was new to me
we had shade for the first few miles, pleasant temps and a nice breeze which helped keep the gnats at bay
there is a large cairn at the turn west to the ruins
given the amount of foxtails and other types of stickers, we decided not to cross the mesa
instead, we continued north on cave creek trail for awhile and then retraced our steps
there were enough stickers to pick out of our shoes and socks just from the trail
also an annoying number of gnats
we took the metate trail on the return and started seeing a few people
still a good hike, but we'd like to go back for the ruins, petroglyphs and the ranch
the highlight of the trip was seeing a rattlesnake and a gila monster
after the hike we had a great visit with cathy and greg, aka @losdosslofolks
followed by brunch at the brass rail
pretty nice morning :) thanks, john
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Our initial plan was to hike one of two loops off of Cave Creek #4. Due to the tremendous amount of foxtail etc., we ended up just doing an in and out. The use trails down to the creek and ruins looked like murder.
The Good:
Nice scenery & weather, rattlesnake and gila monster sightings
The Bad:
Missed out on the ruins, petroglyphs, and ranch
The Ugly:
Foxtail and gnats.
After the hike we had a great visit with @losdosslofolks, followed by breakfast at the brass rail.
Very nice day. Thanks Kelly, Cathy and Greg. :)
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Apr 07 2023
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Jewel of the Spur Cross, AZ 
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I wanted to check out the flora and water situation out in the Spur Cross area.

Starting from the Jewel of the Creek Preserve TH, you could hear Cave Creek running almost immediately. This is a special little riparian area.

Dragonfly Trail to the Spur Cross Trail to the Elephant Mountain Trailto Limestone Trail. The farther in, the more diverse and plentiful the flowers were.

I took a brief break at the Elephant Mountain saddle to cool off in the breeze before jumping on the Limestone Trail. Limestone could use a bit of trimming as it does not get a lot of traffic.

Back down at Cave Creek the Good Friday family crowd was enjoying playing in and around the water.

The rest was just a jaunt back to the TH.
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Mar 20 2023
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Trail 1533 Loop TNF, AZ 
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This close to home double lasso loop hike is one of our favorites in the Tonto National Forest. Rain in the forecast over the next couple of days so today was the day. The creek was flowing strong and after the first few crossings out of Spur Cross I gave up trying to stay dry and just waded across on the remainder.

FR 1533 is a single track so I refer to it as a trail rather than a forest road. The northern sections have been decimated by newly introduced cattle. The Forest Service recently signed a new grazing lease with someone and the cows are really tearing things up. :( The lower areas south of the fence line are still in good shape. The horseback ride concessionaire has been doing some wonderful maintenence on Cottonwood Trail 247 so hopefully they find the time to give 1533 some much needed love.

Saw no hikers after leaving Spur Cross but ran into the unwashed masses on the Metate Trail towards the end of the hike. : wink :
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Lots of Lupine, Poppies, Fiddleneck. Scorpionweed,and Chuparosa. Brittlebush and Desert Globemallow soon to bloom.

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Feb 18 2023
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Metate Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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Judy, Jake and me did Metate Loop CW. Good bit of water at first crossing but bridge was in good working order. Jake got to interact (aka jump on people) with lots of passing hikers.
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Dec 27 2022
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We needed to get in just a few miles to meet some year end goals so we went out today just in case the forecast for rain over the next couple days came true. Cathy wanted something without a lot of gain so we decided to just follow Cave Creek north from Spur Cross and then turn around and return using the Metate Trail to take in the Mesquite forest and the little oasis pond.

Temps were cool at the start but got warmer than expected very quickly. More info in the photo captions and the parking lot was getting loaded up by the time we returned. We saw lots of folks heading out for hikes with no hats or water and improper footwear. :scared: Common sense is not very common.
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Dec 19 2022
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Felt the need to hike in the boonies and this loop close to home was perfect. CCW loop starting from Spur Cross Ranch utilizing 247A and 247B in the Tonto National Forest to gain access to Cottonwood Trail 247. This took me back west to the creek and a return south to Spur Cross Ranch.

The tread conditions of 247, A, and B were the best I've ever seen. I credit and thank the horsemen for the much needed maintenance and erosion repair. There's still a lot of sticky, pokey, grabby things encroaching in places, so long pants are the better choice IMO. After the climb up to the junction of 247 I was feeling pretty good about my effort and the reward of being so isolated from my fellow man.

Thirty seconds later I ran into a hiker (in his mid to late 80's!) coming up 247 from the west. We both said we didn't expect to see another soul up here and had a laugh. He said I'd run into his wife who was lagging a half mile or so behind him. I did stop and chat with her also when we crossed paths. She was very surprised to see me too.
Hiking 247 from creek to the east is a tough uphill slog. I felt like genuflecting to them. :worthy: Sure hope I'm up there doing that in another 20 years!
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Aug 20 2022
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Spur Cross Ranch Wander, AZ 
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Since I had spent 4 hours in this sauna earlier today playing golf, I decided to do a little hiking and sweat some more pounds off. Cathy and I have been watching Spur Cross get dumped on all week so we went over to see how the creek and flora were doing.

It has been a while since we hiked up here at sunset. It's really nice except for all the gnats and flies. Have you ever seen those odd slap fights on ESPN? That was us except we were slapping ourselves. We had to have looked hilarious from a distance. Note to self, next time bring bug spray.

We stayed mainly on the "tourist" trails, but even those were all washed out from the rain and in much need of maintenence. The Metate and Towhee trails were very muddy and we grew a couple of inches with all the buildup on our shoes. There was good flow in the creek and we were able to get cleaned up.

We stopped by a couple of petroglyph sites along the way back to the car. I sure look forward to the cooler weather so we can get back in the hills north of Spur Cross and into the Tonto NF. It's just too darn hot still.
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Apr 13 2022
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I wanted/needed a hike close to home but away from people. This double lasso loop north of Spur Cross has never let me down for beauty and solitude. 8am start from a near empty parking lot at the TH. After hiking through Spur Cross and into the National Forest I caught up with another solo hiker at the third creek crossing. The water noise of the creek drowned out my approach and since he had a sidearm I made some racket so as not to startle him. His name was Steve and is a recent transplant from California.

He asked where I was going and since he seemed interested I invited him to join me. Being about the same age we had good conversation but it wasn't until the end of the hike that something crazy happened. He mentioned that he grew up in the Phoenix area but had lived in California since college. Turns out we grew up just blocks from each other in Phoenix and went to the same schools...but 4 years apart. Small world. It didn't end there. His parents had an inexpensive summer cabin just outside of Prescott in the 60's and 70's. Holiday Hills was the name of the place. Cathy's folks had one in the same area at the same time. They might have even known each other. Six degrees of separation is a real thing. :)
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More Flat Top Buckwheat than in years past. Lupine, Hedgehog, N.M.Thistle, and Mariposa Lillies making a show.

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Mar 19 2022
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 Chandler, AZ
Chalk Canyon Ruins and Elephant Mountain, AZ 
Chalk Canyon Ruins and Elephant Mountain, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 19 2022
John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking14.56 Miles 2,393 AEG
Hiking14.56 Miles   9 Hrs   52 Mns   2.06 mph
2,393 ft AEG   2 Hrs   48 Mns Break
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We'd had Chalk Canyon on our list for quite a while and decided to make that our main destination today. We started at Spur Cross Ranch Trailhead, and there was a lot more water in Cave Creek than expected...water levels were a lot lower in late December when we hiked to the Skull Mesa ruins, and I don't remember any significant rainfall since then. Regardless, it was nice to see.

It was mostly fast, pleasant miles on the hike to the ruins, with comfortable temperatures and a lot of wildflowers and birds. After we left Cave Creek Trail and approached the ruins site, we started to see increasing concentrations of pottery sherds and petroglyphs. One of the first petroglyphs we saw east of the ruins was a human figure with a zigzag pattern leading toward a spiral/circle of life engraved in the rock. Always fun to guess the meaning behind the drawings...

We spent some time exploring the ruins on the west edge of the mesa. We had the site to ourselves, and it offered a different perspective looking up at the ridge with the Skull Mesa ruins to the north. A lot of the walls were deteriorated at this site, but it was a large complex, and a few rooms had taller, more intact walls with some mortar still visible. One long, narrow room had a doorway made of white rocks that stood out from the darker ones that made up the other walls and virtually all the other structures, and it looked like rocks had been stacked loosely in modern times to block off the doorway for some reason.

After exploring the ruins, we dropped down off the west edge of the mesa toward the trail and Cave Creek below. It was a steep, loose descent in places, especially near the top, but we were able to avoid the brush almost entirely and saw more pottery and a few petroglyphs on the way down the slope. The area at the bottom was the highlight of the site, with an impressive concentration of petroglyphs and metates/rock slicks.

A set of three large boulders were covered in various petroglyphs on the tops and sides, and one vertical panel had one of the largest human figures I've seen, at 2+ feet tall. Others nearby had spirals and various symbols carved all over the flat tops. As we explored the area, we counted ~10 metates, several with grinding stones, and many more petroglyphs and pot sherds...a really nice area.

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As we hiked back toward the trailhead, we took Metate Trail and checked out the namesake metates and the pool while dodging the crowds. Other than coming down the steep side of the mesa, it was quick, easy miles, and with a lot of afternoon remaining, we headed toward Elephant Mountain to see how far we could get with our remaining time. @TboneKathy waited below the saddle while I headed for the peak. I came up a little short, about a quarter mile from the summit, before I ran out of time and decided to turn around, but getting up as far as I did provided a nice vantage point to see the Elephant Mountain ruins on the ridge below, so it was a worthwhile effort even if I'll have to come back again to reach the peak.

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On the hike out, @TboneKathy nearly stepped on a Gila monster before seeing it at her feet...I don't usually think of those as blending in very well with their orange stripes, but she somehow missed it :). About a mile from the trailhead a helicopter was circling overhead, and we could see emergency vehicles with lights flashing in the parking lot. The helicopter landed over there and took off again and circled a few more times, and it continued repeating that cycle once we back and packing up at our vehicle. There were three fire trucks (one that said "Heavy Rescue" on the side) and two ambulances, and we weren't sure if it was an active rescue or a training exercise with the way the helicopter kept coming and going.

It was a fun hike, and the area below the ruins, especially, exceeded expectations. We had comfortable weather, great scenery, and the hike up to Elephant Mountain was a nice bonus that wasn't part of the original plan...and, fortunately, no Gila monsters were injured during the hike :).
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Feb 13 2022
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Trail 1533 Loop TNF, AZ 
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Hiking6.89 Miles 897 AEG
Hiking6.89 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   2.23 mph
897 ft AEG      25 Mns Break6 LBS Pack
 
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The gecko contacted me wanting to do a hike up in my part of town along with johnlp. I'm guessing they were wondering what hiking @ 2 mph felt like. :-k Tibber completed our foursome. Needless to say I spent the majority of the hike persevering to keep up.

I chose a fun little double lasso loop in the Tonto National Forest north of Spur Cross. Water flow in Cave Creek was just high enough to keep the girls on their toes during the many water crossings. Despite the lack of recent rain the desert was very green and it appears there will be a springtime bloom very soon. Another storm should assure some poppies I think.

Everyone stopped by our home afterwards to visit with Mrs. SloFolks and to have some processed meats and cheeses followed by some delicious apple pie a la mode with caramel sauce. Hiking allows for these types of food choices...I think.

Thanks for the hike everyone, and especially for giving Cathy other faces to see other than mine and her doctor. :lol:

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