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Holdout Spring Overnight, AZ 
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High Creek #290
Parked near Hooker Tank. Road is in good shape, probably could have driven another 1/2 mile with some pinstriping risk, tho there are some logs purposefully laying on the road to prevent such things. Trail conditions felt very similar to the last time I was out here (mild overgrowth, nothing thorny) about a year ago, and some of the autumn colors were stubbornly holding on. We need a good winter storm out here to freshen up things.

East Divide #287
Great views, easy walking, maybe 4 or so dead tree obstacles. Bumped into a very cool guy (Robert) up here from Wyoming and dumped a ton of trail advice on him. Hope it wasn't too much. He was retired, in the area, and just "kinda exploring" with a bunch of loaded topos and marked springs. I was jealous of his flexibility and lack of schedule.

Rattlesnake #285
First section that drops down to the washout was fine, some minor overgrowth. The washout is about as bad as last time (Class 4), so I did a bypass up and around, sticking right above the precipice, and it was relatively painless. After the washout there was a lot of overgrowth, some of it thorny, and some tread damage that kept me (literally) on edge. Once the trail sinks into the forest below it is very overgrown and hard to track... a LaCroix of trails. With the number of backpacking loops this trail offers, let alone the quick overnight to Holdout, it's a bummer to see it deteriorate year after year. Reached the spring about 4 hours after parking.

Spent the afternoon putzing, filtering water, reading, and generally relaxing. Temps dropped quickly - sun was hiding behind the hills by 4pm - and my thermometer claimed 40F by sunset. Had a peaceful night in the hammock and slept in a bit, enjoying my new book and the cozy quilts.

The hike out was about the same, just in reverse. Bumped into Robert again at the East Divide junction. He had tried to follow me down Rattlesnake and didn't want to chance that washout, so he just spent the night along the trail and was now contemplating a trip up to Corral Canyon. Wished him luck and continued out, cruising along and enjoying the quiet.

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Even with the ongoing dryness, the cave seep had a solid trickle and the trough outside was overflowing.
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High Creek - E Divide - Corral - Rattlesnake, AZ 
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After an inexcusably long break from adventuring, headed out to the Galiuro Wilderness with three objectives: check out the fall colors, explore some more of the trail system, and test out some gear changes.

High Creek #290
Got my 2WD, meh-clearance vehicle a mile from the "official" trailhead a few minutes after sunrise. Watered up and shivered along the climb up High Creek, gawking a few times at the color show. Trail is easy to follow, deceptively steep, and has little overgrowth. Vibing.

E Divide #287
Turned north. Climb keeps on climbing until you reach the saddle a quarter mile in. Paused here to check out the entry log and look for the marked spring. Found a few promising spots and even some damp dirt, NO water on surface, and a decent tread that continued downhill... Back on official trail to enjoy the non-stop visual treat of Big Views, also found a nice (exposed) campsite on the north side of the 7100 BM saddle. The section of trail from 7100 BM -> Rattlesnake is phenomenal, stellar views of the southern half. After reaching the junction I cruised, since I had already been here two years ago.

Paused at the Paddy River junction to down some calories and try to mentally prepare myself for a potential slog. It was worse than I expected. The western slopes were a mess of deadfall, loose rocks, and confusing treads; Douglas Canyon was filled with more deadfall, thick brush, and washout; and the general area around Kennedy Peak was devastated. With a light pack I was making about a mile an hour along this section, tho some of that was spent hunting tread to get a more accurate GPS route. Outside of the frustrating aspects, the geology of this area was pretty cool, and there was water! Hesitant on calling this a true one-and-done.

Corral Canyon #291
After the beating for the last few hours I was running low on patience and water, so decided to barrel in a generally correct direction instead of hunting tread. Few puddles above the waterfall and clear, tasty water at the spring itself. Rest of the trail was in fine shape, splattering of fall colors.

Powers Garden #96
Highway cruising. There is 5-10 large downs to circle around, otherwise easy walking. It was getting dark and the cold was settling in quickly, so while my original plan was to camp at Holdout, I stopped shortly after Rattlesnake Spring.

Had a small fire for warmth during dinner, and then doused it shortly after, chased by the cold temps into my hammock. Had one of my best sleeps outside in recent memory, nestled in a pair of 40F under/top quilts. Got chilly around 1AM, pulled on some extra layers, and survived. Morning was a shiver-fest, so I pushed back breakfast plans until a few miles could warm me up.

Rattlesnake #285
This trail is so good, with solid tread and wonderful fall colors and all, yet some parts of it is so overgrown, especially the mile west of Holdout Spring. Pulled water and had breakfast at Holdout, then pushed on, anxious to get the climb done. Ran into a chill bear shortly after leaving the creek. Briefly about exploring the unnamed "#285A" spur at the saddle - there is even an ineligible sign sitting there - and instead pushed on. More overgrowth along the climb, and that scree section was several notches above my comfort level, so I bypassed through some angry manzanita. I've done the scree before, in the winter, and this time seemed way sketchier. By the time I reached the top I was quite sweat, bloodied, and ready to be done.

E Divide #287 / High Creek #290
Nothing new. The sun was higher so the fall colors on High Creek popped more. Passed the miles by plotting out the next few adventures.
Gear Notes - this is my second underquilt and I'm getting more used to hammock camping, though I struggle a lot on finding good spots to hang, even in something as tree-rich as this wilderness. Need more practice. First time backpacking in trail runners and had zero issues. Also used a hydration pack with a hose for easy sipping... on the fence. I like having individual bladders so I can keep track of my intake, as well as have forced breaks.
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Some areas seemed pretty close to peak. Other areas seemed stressed and had shed everything already. Speculate that the peak will be in 2 weeks.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Corral Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Cement trough had a little bit of water. Underneath the trough it was several large tanks of clear water with a good trickle in/out.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Corral Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
This one is confusing. I did not see any dam along North Fork, though there were a few puddles in North Fork with reasonable clarity. There IS a signed "Corral Dam" along the tributary, where the trail climbs up to the north, which was had a dribble that would be very difficult to collect.

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Solid, as usual.
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Been a few years since doing this summit and nice to be back again. The road walk in the beginning was pleasant before the quite steep but short ascent. Some poison ivy to avoid but the colors were better than in the past and I dare say possibly better than Bassett. It was more quality over quantity compared to Bassett with some short sections that were very scenic.

Once on the divide the hike really begins with brushy overgrown trail and a rather large descent before the final peak summit. The actual summit is off trail from the divide but it's a fun scramble through a few sporty climbs to the peak. Great views on top and would have been nice to spend more time but a cold brisk wind cut short the visit.

Back down the same way and more foliage pics with slightly different light!
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After tagging Bassett yesterday, we opted to head for Sunset today. This side trip along the divide must not be on an internet list because it doesn't seem to get much visitation despite being just a short spur off the trail, a fun scramble, and stunning sky island views. Bonus: fall colors along High Creek make the lower half a delight.

I parked too early, forgetting that I could easily drive more than a half mile farther along the road, so we got a few extra steps to add to the weekend totals. There's more poison ivy here than in Ash, but it's easily avoided, and in brilliant fall splendor, I don't think it's quite as potent as when glossy green in summer.

The half mile or so below the switchbacks is steeper than it needs to be and just as I remembered. The nice trail conditions ended at the junction with the 287, which has not seen clippers in many years. We pushed through the brush and managed to keep an eye on the tread hidden below our feet.

The peak is not even the high point on the hike, which features a delightful 400 foot drop between reaching the divide and climbing to the summit. Extra AEG just for fun, donchaknow? :)

There's a double-summit, but the eastern point is the highest and you have to traverse the western side to get there. It's a scramble to get to the top, but there's a protected gully that makes the ascent easy.

Yesterday's perfect conditions were not repeated today, with a strong and very chilly wind. I tried to warm up in a wind-sheltered spot in the sun, but it wasn't happening, so we didn't stay too long before making the return trip and warming up along the climb on the overgrown divide trail.

We were well ahead of yesterday's pace so the return trip brought us through the maple zone with brilliant backlighting from the autumn sun. We took the short side trip toward High Creek Spring but didn't go all the way up. There must be good water though because a pipe installed by local ranchers was leaking nicely!

With a quick 3 hour drive, we were home in time for dinner.
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Only a few patches of good red maples, but the yellows were pure fire.
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High Creek Trail #290Tucson, AZ
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Exploratory drive to get the lay of the land and see if I could reach the trailhead in my 2WD CRV (with all-terrain tires) - road was mostly decent and I could. Only scared myself once by scraping bottom as I ascended out of that rocky initial crossing of High Creek - where you're going East and it "doesn't feel right", lol. Skid plates would be nice. Or just a bit more clearance. Fun drive, tho! I saw a herd of eight Pronghorns on the way in and a squadron of 14 Javelinas on the way out ... stopped and checked out a few of the more impressive campsites - good stuff! :D
Birding was pretty excellent along the road - highlights included my first Mountain Bluebirds in Southern AZ, Sandhill Cranes, Western Bluebirds and Western/Eastern Meadowlarks.
Was a little surprised to see three or four vehicles parked at the end of the 4WD road just before the real trail starts. I only hiked a little ways up the trail, then sat on some nice boulders with the creek trickling a bit, and a nice pool at my feet ... had a snack - tuna out of a packet, eaten off my pocket knife because I forgot a spoon - and enjoyed the peace and beauty. I liked what I saw, and I will go back.
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Deer Creek to High Creek, AZ 
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Kathleen had been begging me to take her to Powers Garden for a while, and not to turn down an excuse to spend time in the Galiuros, I penciled in a date on the calendar. Of course, the plans went all crazy and the whos and whens weren't finally settled until a few hours before we started. Kathleen had to work, until I fomo-guilted her on the drive east, and she managed to pull everything together and make the trailhead before sunset. Jon was gonna meet us in the morning, but that got thwarted and he didn't leave the valley until mid morning. Joel had a bunch of stuff keep him from getting out of town on time and he drove through the night. Patrick was on time and Nate somehow got his Prius all the way out there in time for a Friday night car camp.

Saturday morning, Joel rolled up and he and I opted to set up a shuttle so we could come out via High Creek instead of returning back to Deer Creek. This took longer than expected ... the shortest route isn't an option because a ranch owner has restricted access. So after the long way around, we weren't ready to hit the trail until after 11. Patrick, Nate, 9L, and Kathleen had all started a few hours earlier while we were shuttling. Jon was running about an hour behind us but we opted to head out rather than waiting.

A couple of miles in we met Kathleen and Chewy in bad shape. An illness had set in and despite making it halfway there, she decided that it wasn't worth backpacking and waking up in the middle of the wilderness with a worsening sickness of unknown severity. It's a tough call to make, but it was the right decision. I wouldn't want to be sick like that in the middle of the woods either. She assured us she would make it back to the truck, so we said our goodbyes and continued on.

There was a foul-smelling rotting cow carcass at Mud Spring, which didn't pose any issues since nobody would drink from that spring anyway. The views on the Tortilla trail are open and ok, but really not a good descriptor for this range as a whole. There was a puddle or two of water in a couple of shaded drainages from the previous week's rain, but it was otherwise a very dry hike in. Some maples splashed bright reds near the mouth of Horse Canyon providing a welcoming entrance to Powers Garden after the steep and scree-ey descent from the crest.

Despite evidence of some very recent horse traffic, we were pleased to find the Garden unoccupied, except for 9L, Patrick and Nate who had already set up camp. Jon arrived around sunset after stopping for some photos along the way.

The cabin was unlocked and very well stocked. Actually, people abandon property here instead of carrying it out, and I wish they wouldn't. Sleeping pads, sleeping bags, tents, canned goods, you name it. Even a bottle of whisky! :) But seriously ... it's not helping to leave anything here. If you carry it in, carry it out too. Your 12-lb Ozark Trail sleeping bag is trash. The cabin does not need another bottle of mustard!

We had a good fire, and managed to stay warm until bed. Always a cold sink, the garden dropped into the 20s and all our waters were frozen solid. We reconsidered why we hadn't all just slept in the cabin as it would have provided a few degrees of relief. No matter, once the sun hit the valley, the frost melted and things warmed up quickly.

The spring had plentiful water, but despite being clear, had a bit of a funky odor. If the spring area doesn't get a little bit of maintenance, I think this may become a less-than-ideal water source in the next few years. All the former infrastructure has gone to feces and I'm not sure there will ever be running water at the cabin or a clean trough for filtering and wildlife again.

Nate took off at first light and hiked out on his own. 9L and Patrick left in late morning, heading back via Tortilla. Jon and Joel and I headed south on what should have been an "easy" day. I had planned to make another visit to the cabin and mine, but when we got to the junction, I wasn't feeling it, and having been there before, didn't need to do it again this time.

The Rattlesnake Trail has flashed since the 2014 fire and much of the tread is gone as you meander through a dense stand of Arizona Cypress growing in the sandy and rocky flood debris. After pleasant hiking so far, this last 2 miles was a lot of work. It's quite overgrown and between route-finding, creek crossings, bushwhacking, and the end of our second day of hiking, we were all pretty happy to get to camp at Holdout Spring.

As expected, Holdout was full of clear, delicious water ... the first we had seen all day since leaving Powers. Camp here was at least 15 degrees warmer than down in the garden, and we were all thoroughly pleased by that.

The next morning we took it slow getting going and stopped a few times along the way to enjoy the fall colors along the trail as we climbed up toward the divide. We may have been a little bit late for colors, but it's tough to tell ... it seems that there had been an extended freeze at some point in the previous couple of weeks that had put an abrupt end to most of the colors.

The hike to the divide from Holdout is truly scenic, and so much better than Tortilla on the way in. I had forgotten a few of the sections and really enjoyed the tired grind on the climb out. Heading down High Creek was a delight as always, with a few pockets of really nice color that deserved a break. At one point, my phone fell out of my pocket as I sat and I left without it. This near-disaster was averted as I take enough photos that it hadn't been more than 100 yards before I grabbed for it and realized where it must be!

The Mark-KO tree has settled from forehead height to a more manageable chest height. :)

I had left my truck at the most popular camp area and since I was a few minutes ahead of the others, I drove a half mile or so back up the road to pick them up. There are some sections up there that just make it not worth the drive vs just walking it!

We didn't see any bears in person, but they were obviously plentiful across the entire range. Over the course of the three days, I don't believe we ever went more than 100 yards without encountering a healthy pile of poop, and often could not go more than a few steps. On no hike that I can recall have I seen so much sign of bear activity over such a large area.

We drove back to Deer Creek to fetch the other cars before heading back home. But not before getting to enjoy the spectacular beauty of the Aravaipa Valley as daylight waned. Each trip to the Galiuros makes me wonder why I don't come back here more often! So Kathleen ... I guess we'll have to schedule this one again and finally get it done! :)

dry Brush Canyon Dry Dry
No sign of water

dry Corral Canyon Dry Dry
No sign of water. Didn't hike up far to investigate further


water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Holdout Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Clear and cold. Good water in the cave spring box and in the main spring box which was full and delicious.

dry Horse Canyon Dry Dry
No sign of water even though it rained a little bit the previous week


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No idea how much flow ... plenty of water, but gross due to cattle traffic. Rotting dead cow carcass made it even worse.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Powers Garden Spring Dripping Dripping
Good pools of clear water, but foul smell possibly due to rotting leaves and debris. Filtered and flavored, and nobody got sick!

dry Rattlesnake Spring Dry Dry
No water anywhere

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day1 in thru high creek to Holdout
Day2 hike to shootout cabin and mine then to grassy peak and back
day 3 out - side trip to Sunset
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Fun trip with good friends! Sorry for the newbie of the group that hasn’t gotten the memo to hike fully clothed around me. Even a trail hike seems to involve bushwhacking! We carried in enough alcohol for a good happy hour at the spring.
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Nice weekend in the Galiuros starting from High Creek Trailhead. We drove down Friday night meeting Belinda and the group from Tucson at the trailhead. Next morning we headed up High Creek Trail which is old road at first then becomes single track. Some fall color in the lower canyon but it was past prime. Eventually we made it to the East Divide Trail junction where most of us dropped packs and day hiked over to Sunset Peak. It’s about 4 miles round trip with really nice views on the summit. A short rock scramble was necessary but nothing too challenging. We also discovered a great collection of lady bugs near the summit coating the trees and rocks. Spent about 25 minute break on the summit before heading back.

At the junction we grabbed the backpacks and made our way over the divide following the East Divide Trail to the junction with Holdout Spring. The sign says 3.3 miles to the spring from the junction and it drops about 1400 feet. More fall color that was past prime but still scenic as we cruised through the canyon to the spring. It didn’t take long to make the spring and find our camp spot for the night. Cool area with plenty of tent spots and a good fire ring. After setting up camp everyone ventured to the spring to filter.

The spring is in great shape with very clear water in the rock basin. Some on HAZ may not even filter the water but we all did. Also, near the camp is a rock cave that has been carved out and what is the water source for the spring. We checked that out before walking back to camp and settling down for the night.

Next morning we had a leisurely start before returning the same way we hiked in. The light was better for the remaining fall color so we stopped more for pics. Despite that we still made it back to the trailhead by 1pm. Then went to Wilcox for some eats and tried a new steakhouse just off the I-10. It was surprisingly good!
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Past prime but still a nice show of maples.
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Drove to the actual TH, did have to do 4 lo and locker for a section or two. Jeep handled it no problem. Had to drive over a downed small tree or two. The first maples are blood red, then a section of trees that were done early, then nice sections here and there. This canyon has some nice reds, orange but mostly golds. Must have been some wind as trees are down on this and in Ash creek. Some super stagnant water in the drainage as you turn to go uphill. I went to the East Divide but didn't feel like tackling Sunset so back down I went. Normally I don't see anyone here but did encounter some backpackers on their way to Holdout. Some elderly folks there ( check--look in the mirror). I bet they are retired!!
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Fun day hike to Holdout Spring from High Creek. It's color time, and we weren't disappointed. It looked as if a recent high-wind event had stripped some of the early turners, but there was still plenty to be had. Rattlesnake canyon is really a winner. I'd love to camp near the spring sometime. In fact, I need to get back and cover some more ground in this wilderness. So much great terrain and fantastic views.

We were a group of 5 and a dog so we didn't see any wildlife today, but it's tough to walk 10 feet without seeing a huge bear poop. Neighbors back at camp said there had been a bear a couple hundred yards away, but none of us saw it. Oh well.
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Most oaks were done, maples maybe a week past prime with a lot on the ground due to recent wind.

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Plenty of water in the main spring box and in the cave spring box, but little to no noticeable "flow"
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Nice day of looking at leaves!
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Great trip with friends. I had forgotten that there was any color on the hike up High Creek so we had several surprises.

Along the way, I found a great dog bowl that I can’t wait to give My Joseph!

We got to the junction and saw the gift that Chumley left us. I didn’t know if he was still hiking so we reconfigured it to be something different.

From there we headed over to Sunset peak. I hadn’t been in a while but I had my track log so up we went. I was surprised that no one had signed in the log in a couple of years. This great peak with awesome views gets very little traffic. I suspect many people also don’t get to the high point since there are two summits.

Anyway, my description of the hike down into Rattlesnake canyon from last trip describes the trail really well. I do think that it is a bit more overgrown since then.

Once we saw Rattlesnake Canyon from the Ridge we could see the jackpot for fall colors! I was excited so I didn’t stop until I got to the colors. The maples didn’t disappoint!

We spent the night near Holdout Spring. I was disappointed that the previous group didn’t practice leave no trace. In the woods beyond the camp area was spots of dirty toilet paper. Boo!

We had a leisurely time in camp in the morning and headed out close to 10 AM. It was fun to go back through the color and enjoy it again.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
The best is in Rattlesnake canyon.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Holdout Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Hard to say how much is coming out but the main spring box was full with nice, clean water!
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Nov 10 2017
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 Tempe, AZ
Sunset Peak via High Creek, AZ 
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With plans for Ash Creek on Saturday, I decided it would be fun to try out High Creek on Friday. Pivo and Joseph chose to join me, so had some company for the day.

I could probably have driven the final half mile of road, but it was slow going so I figured it wasn't worth not just starting the hike. Non 4wd vehicles will want to stop a full mile before the end of the road where there's a big camp area and a small FS sign.

I was surprised to see how nice this trail is, and it was also impressively maintained. There's a ton of poison ivy along this one, but it was easy to avoid, and it was prime red for fall, so it was always easy to see too!

The top half mile is super steep, but it's over quickly. Once on the Divide Trail, we headed south about two miles to Sunset Peak which involves a bit of an off-trail scramble to reach. After reading Grotto Girl's report that the eastern peak was a little dicey to climb, I decided to settle on the west peak. They have to be within a foot or two of each other anyway.

This was a fun peak and it was great to check out a new access to the Galiuros via High Creek.
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A few spots with nice color, but still tons of green. I would estimate 2 weeks from prime color.

dry High Creek Dry Dry
Saw one or two tiny pools in bedrock up in the canyon, otherwise completely dry.
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A bit early for the fall colors but there were a few pockets of oaks and maples that were vibrant. Trails are in good shape although some overgrowth on the eastern sections of Rattlesnake and some deadfall further down in the lower sections of Rattlesnake.
Beware if you are going to the shootout cabin; from the saddle down to the cabin...cat-claw abounds, in some areas two c.c. bushes on either side of the trail had intertwined themselves - hacking through will take some tenacity (and blood-letting).
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Holdout Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Water in both the 'inside' and 'outside' reservoirs.
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Nov 11 2016
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 Tucson, AZ
Gailuro weekend, AZ 
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3 day/2 night backpack in the Gailuros. Hiked in to Holdout Spring on Friday. Dayhike to shootout cabin and mine on Sat. Hiked out on Sunday.
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Six of us hiked in from High Creek TH to Holdout Spring and spent the night. Next day we all hiked down to the Shootout Cabin and Powers mine, then back to Rattlesnake and maybe a quarter mile further to the mine ruins for lunch. Then back to Holdout for the night. I'd been in there a few times 15 +/- years ago, my how things change. Much more overgrown, and steeper than I remembered, but I was younger then. Great time with great folks.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Holdout Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Spring is a small pool a short ways down canyon from the cave. With 8 people using it, it didn't drop at all.
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Mar 28 2015
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After a long 5 years I decided a return to the Galiuro's was long overdue. On my prior trips the destination had been either Powers Garden or the Ash Creek/Bassett Peak areas. This time it was time for something new! After recently seeing the documentary "Powers War" I decided on a return to "Shootout Cabin" aka "Powers Cabin". The route we hiked to Powers Cabin utilized High Creek #290, East Divide #287, Rattlesnake #285, Powers Garden #96 and the West Divide #289 trails.

Accessing either end of this trail is a hike by itself. You'll be better off doing this trail as part of a backpacking trip and that will give you time to explore the interesting interior of the Galiuros. I posted this trip on the BCH Meetup groups site and only got two others to join me (Fan & Gary H.). Although there are numerous trails you can use to gain access to the Powers Cabins this one MAY provide the easiest access, passes through unburned forest (for now) and also passes a neat spring named Holdout (seasonal) that's located in a cave. In June of 2014 a fire burned the NE portion of this wilderness, the fire didn't reach this far south.

We started this trail at its high point at the JCT with the East Divide trail #287 (7200')and descended it to its other end at the JCT with the Powers Garden trail #96 (5300'). We also hiked back up this trail since this backpack was an out and back. For those looking to make the journey to the Powers cabins; "Powers Garden" is 3.5 miles down (North) the Powers Garden trail #96 from the JCT with the Rattlesnake trail #285. The other Powers Cabin "Shootout Cabin" is 1.5 miles away in the other direction (South)from the JCT.

As you approach the Rattlesnake trail #285/East Divide trail #287 JCT you'll have an impressive view off to the west of the Catalina's, Rincons, Santa Rita's and Whetstones. You'll also get a memorable view of the southern half of the Galiuro's and be at the head of Rattlesnake Creek, this creek eventually ties into Aravaipai. You may notice a trail below you that clings to a slope, it's more then 500' below you. SORRY but that's where your heading!

This trail drops 1900' over its 4.9 mile course but I'd say 2/3's of that is in the first two miles. The trail pretty much plunges from the JCT of #287 with few switchbacks. Even though there's a good amount of oaks, pinyons, juniper and manzanita this trail offers very little shade along this stretch. You'll come to the first of three saddles just prior to the part of the trail that could be seen from above. Past this saddle the trail is narrow and covered in scree as it passes on the north side of a hilltop. A slip here would result in a nasty plunge that you'd probably survive, AFTER the 100' roll. I found two abandoned shovels hidden here in the manzanita. I left one and took the other with the intention of leaving it at Holdout Spring (left it in cave). Soon you'll come to a second saddle and pass on the south side of another hilltop. The plunge will still continue but now you'll have some tree cover. In a short time you'll encounter a few switchbacks that will lead you to an undercover third saddle. From this saddle you'll plunge down a feeder drainage and into Rattlesnake Creek.

Now you'll enter hiking paradise. The Galiuro's are a little strange, its an upside down mountain. Lower elevation trees can be found up in the higher terrain along with pines but down in the low canyons you'll find a lot of BIG pines. The remainder of this trail will be a gradual decent crossing the dry creek numerous times in a pine forest. There are plenty of places to camp but you'll want to spend the night near Holdout spring/cave. Its about a 20-30 minute walk along the Creek to the signed JCT of the Holdout Spring trail #285A. The JCT is 3.3 miles from the East Divide #287 JCT and 1.6 miles to the P:owers Garden #96 JCT. The spur to the spring is .3 mile and climbs about 75'. There's a cleaned up fire ring and although the area isn't flat you can set up about a dozen tents in the area. The spring and cave are about a 2 minute walk from the fire ring.

The remaining 1.6 miles of trail continue to gradually descend to the JCT of the Powers Garden #96 trail. There are a number of intriguing holes in the ground of the same depth and size along the way. They almost look like craters from artillery and although there was mining in the area I don't think they are prospecting holes. You'll pass a mine on north side of the creek near the end of the trail and an old wooden structure with no roof. We missed the wooden structure on our hike down the trail so I'd say its not obvious. At the JCT of the Powers Garden #96 trail there is a modern horse trough (galvanized tub). It was empty and my guess is the plastic tubing needed repair. Although most of the creek was dry we found water by the trail JCT, this would be a great spot to camp because of the nearby mining relics.
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Backpacked a short section of the East Divide trail #287 to link the High Creek trail #290 with the Rattlesnake trail # 285. Beautiful and easy 1.7 miles through unburned forest. This section of trail is well maintained at this point in time and could be called a highway.

A nice but dry camping spot will be found on trail at the saddle near the high point that is near the JCT of High Creek/Sunset Peak trails. You'll know your at this camp spot since it has an old trail registry box at it. The USGS 1971 shows a spring near the camp spot, we DIDN'T check it out.

As you near the JCT with the Rattlesnake trail you'll have great views of the interior of the Galiuro's and distant views of the Rincons, Catalina's, Whetstone's and the Santa Rita's. The JCT with the Rattlesnake trail is signed and the GPS we had was a little off to its location.
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What a wonderful day!! I was feeling sort of dull, not too enthusiastic. That changed with the drive in, gothic clouds, wind and the feeling of change in the air. This trail has potential for fall colors with less hikers than the throngs at Ash Creek, and part of a nice drive in an oak hallway. Had a funny encounter, flagged down by two would be hunters on the Sunset loop as I was buzzing along. "Where can you go hunting around here, all we see is private land signs--" I gave them several points to access the forest. "Can you hunt on the forest???" Ummmm--- I asked if they had their license to hunt which they did. Well, bambi is probably safe from these two but the other hunters in the area I sent them--oh well.
After the usual dance near the end of the road over some rocks I parked and walked up the trail. The clouds were booking overhead and it was just flashes of light from the sun. Found some colors but the main event is at least a week away, as others have said about Ash Creek, this canyon being similar in elevation etc.
Lots of bear poop on the trail. It started raining so I tried to take some pictures of wet maple leaves. The poison ivy was very colorful in an array of rainbow colors. I love the orange marmalade colors of some of the maples.
No one on the trail but me; campers scattered along the way in , some hunters, some hikers. Back to the Jeep I kept the umbrella up most of the way. Driving out the clouds started breaking up with great views and blue skies.
It just doesn't get any better than this.
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