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Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur Cross - 7 members in 15 triplogs have rated this an average 3.9 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Dec 21 2019
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59 male
 Joined Oct 07 2017
 Chandler, AZ
Spur Cross Cottonwood Loop (8.3), AZ 
Spur Cross Cottonwood Loop (8.3), AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 21 2019
YoderTriplogs 273
Hiking8.33 Miles 1,853 AEG
Hiking8.33 Miles   4 Hrs   9 Mns   2.28 mph
1,853 ft AEG      30 Mns Break
 
We decided to link sections of the Spur Cross, Skull Mesa and Cottonwood trails to make a 8.3 mile loop. This gave us a chance to check out the beginning of Skull Mesa Ruins hike for possibly checking this out later, it's a long one, but looks like it has great views.

Didn't realize it at the time, but crossed paths with Crzy4AZ going on the Skull Mesa Ruins hike the same morning. Bummed out I didn't say hello to them that morning, but generally we avoid other folks... we tend not to be very sociable.... need to work on that more. :?

Anyhow, the part of the ruin hike we did was very reasonable. The trail actually is easier to walk on than most of the trails in the Conservation area. Most of there trails has alot of the fist size rocks in the trail that ware on the feet after a while.

All-in-all a pretty pleasant hike.
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Jan 24 2017
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35 male
 Joined Mar 06 2016
 Salt River Valle
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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arizona_waterTriplogs 118
Run/Jog3.71 Miles 277 AEG
Run/Jog3.71 Miles      49 Mns   4.54 mph
277 ft AEG
 
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After work Trail run - turned hike. Cave creek was raging. So cool!
Crossing cave creek is not possible without getting your feet wet. The water is cold, but not too bad. Several of the eastern side canyons have some small flows that confluence with Cave Creek about 1.5 miles upstream of the parking area.

I looked for a dry fall I had seen on the topo but I forgot to preload the map and there's wasn't any cell reception, so I just explored along the creek for awhile. It started raining as I ran back to the trailhead at sunset.

This was my first time to Spur Cross, and I definitely plan on returning!

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Nice consistent flow. The snow and rain last weekend certainly helped out.

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Looking good!
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Mar 06 2015
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61 male
 Joined Jun 02 2008
 Cave Creek, Az
Spur Cross LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 06 2015
CdnInAzTriplogs 114
Hiking5.50 Miles 600 AEG
Hiking5.50 Miles   2 Hrs      2.75 mph
600 ft AEG3 LBS Pack
 
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awesome afternoon for a hike. I've been on each end of this loop with other hikes but this was my first time making connection across top which is at bottom of Tonto. That section was a bit tough because many spots have heavy spring growth so I lost trail a few times - glad I had HAZ route on my phone with gps :) Was a bit concerned when down in several riparian zones - very lush - wondered about snakes coming out of hibernation for an afternoon in sun - a concern with dog - but saw none.

my gps route is incomplete because did not charge phone battery before hike, so it died.
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a few moderate areas but I'd call the average at light
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Feb 07 2015
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50 male
 Joined Nov 11 2014
 Manchester, NH
Skull Mesa from Spur Cross THPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 07 2015
JasonCleghornTriplogs 285
Hiking14.00 Miles 2,800 AEG
Hiking14.00 Miles   6 Hrs   12 Mns   2.44 mph
2,800 ft AEG      28 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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My first hiking failure since moving to AZ. I learned a valuable lesson to go with your gut (pun intended) feeling about your health. Woke up this AM feeling bad, thought I could fight through it. Made it to mile 7 and gastrointestinal issues arose that became scary and dangerous. At the springs on the way back, I wasn't sure I would make it back. Projectile, well you get the picture. Took all I had to get back to the car. Still 14 miles and 2800 AEG isn't bad. Sorry, guys...
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Jan 31 2015
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69 male
 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Skull Mesa Loop, AZ 
Skull Mesa Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 31 2015
The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking19.52 Miles 3,612 AEG
Hiking19.52 Miles   10 Hrs   30 Mns   2.05 mph
3,612 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break16 LBS Pack
 
It's been far too long since I've hiked out of Spur Cross. Especially since I live so close to it. There was a 70% chance of rain on the day, and with rain for two days previous, Cave Creek was sure to be running decently.

7:30 in the morning, and we were the first vehicle in the lot. We kept our feet dry by rock hopping the 1st and 4th crossings and going off trail to bypass crossings 2,3 5 and 6. I'd forgotten how steep it was in sections of Cottonwood #247 trail, just to get to the steeper Skull Mesa #248 trail. It was a temperate 55 degrees, but I was wringing wet and glasses fogging up from all the humidity.

Once on top of Skull Mesa, we made our way on the Skull Mesa "Trail" to the east side. The western portion is cairned and easy to follow. The eastern portion, not much to follow there. Still the rain held off, but we had periods of fog on top, and then rising fog from below as we started down.
35 seconds of sheer excitement :next: http://youtu.be/xii8-a...
The top of the mesa was pretty muddy, our shoes picking up extra weight along the way.

On the Quien Sabe #250, we decided to take a short cut to Cave Creek #4 down a wash. There some sweet geology and flora along the way. On Cave Creek #4, we got our first sprinkles of the day. Not enough to to put on the coat or break out the chrome dome.

We cut off Cave Creek #4, down to the 6L ranch area, on a spur trail. I'd never been here or read too much about the area. This is a nice area the I need to come back and check out. We stumbled upon some Glymps and Metates and it looks like there much more to see here.

Getting back from here was easier, since we no longer had to try and keep our feet dry, we just walked on through all the creek crossings

The Metate Trail and Towhee Trail are always fun to hit when in the area. Some of the biggest Saguaros in the state, mixed with all sorts of greenery
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Cave Creek had a nice flow going.

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Observed dry where it meets Cave Creek
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Jan 21 2015
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58 male
 Joined Jan 30 2011
 Chandler, AZ
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 21 2015
JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking24.50 Miles 3,953 AEG
Hiking24.50 Miles   6 Hrs   43 Mns   3.67 mph
3,953 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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Needed to stretch the legs and this Big O' Loop fit the bill. Perfect day to be out there.

The Cottonwood Trail could use a little maintenance however it is easy to follow.
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Jan 01 2015
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60 male
 Joined Nov 15 2005
 Jackson, CA
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 01 2015
toddakTriplogs 577
Hiking24.00 Miles 3,000 AEG
Hiking24.00 Miles   10 Hrs      2.40 mph
3,000 ft AEG
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Love hiking after a good storm, nice clockwise loop. #4 is in excellent condition, the north/east sections of #247 don't see much use, but are in OK condition.
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Mar 20 2014
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49 male
 Joined Apr 18 2002
 Phoenix, AZ
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 20 2014
rehlersTriplogs 46
Hiking17.50 Miles 3,950 AEG
Hiking17.50 Miles   9 Hrs      1.94 mph
3,950 ft AEG
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I've wanted to do the loop of trails in the middle of Seven Springs are for awhile, but 24 miles in a day from spur cross was a bit much for me. Instead, I drove in an alternate route from the north and cut the distance to around 17-18 miles total. Photo set includes rattlesnake, gila monster, and dead fox or coyote (not sure) on trail.

Just north of the cave creek campground along FR24 is another dirt road, FR468. Turning left onto this road and following it to the very end, you stop on the side of the hill overlooking Cave Creek and the Cave Creek Trail #4 (almost exactly where it intersects with Skunk Tank trail). With about .25-.5 mile of off trail effort to the bottom, you can reach the cave creek trail. I then did a clockwise loop as follows:

Trail Conditions
Skunk Tank Trail #246 - mostly easy to follow and in good shape, with little to no overgrowth.
Quien Sabe Trail #250 - trail is faint in parts, but usually cairns help you along and the early parts are along an old road. Not much overgrowth either.
Skull Mesa Trail #248 - fairly faint in many parts, generally cairns available to help. A few spots where cairns were widely spaced. Not much overgrowth. Great views on top of skull mesa. Quite steep coming down.
Cottonwood Trail #247 - easy to follow and well marked. No overgrowth
Cave Creek Trail #4 - easy to follow and well marked. No overgrowth.

Road Conditions
FR24 - passenger car should be able to make it ok
FR648 - Pretty decent, except the last mile or so. Definitely need 4x4 for that section and at least high clearance for the rest.
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Dec 15 2013
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58 male
 Joined Jan 30 2011
 Chandler, AZ
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 15 2013
JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking24.52 Miles 4,040 AEG
Hiking24.52 Miles   7 Hrs   26 Mns   3.31 mph
4,040 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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Couldn't help but take advantage of this beautiful day and get out and do some hiking. This spot can get real warm in the summer months so it's best to do it this time of year.

I didn't see a single person for the first twelve miles with the exception of the County employees collecting money. Then I saw 5 within a mile and nobody else all day. That seems crazy to me.

On my way out it was a little after 5pm. The Coyotes were starting to howl, and when I looked over I saw it was almost a full moon! Very cool!
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Apr 13 2013
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47 male
 Joined Jul 01 2011
 Wexford, PA
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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UberdroogTriplogs 179
Hiking26.09 Miles 5,520 AEG
Hiking26.09 Miles   10 Hrs   5 Mns   6.36 mph
5,520 ft AEG   5 Hrs   59 Mns Break35 LBS Pack
 
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The overnight trip begins at 8amish in the parking lot of Spur Cross. The beginning of the hike started like pretty much all other except for the 30lbs on my back. The creek was flowing and everything was well. With the running stream we were confident that there would be plenty of places to refill along the way. We decided to skirt around the front side of Skull Mesa around the east side. The wild flowers were blooming all over. While it was only 85 outside the unrelenting sun took its toll rather quickly. We each burned through 3 liters of water before we made it to the east side of Skull Mesa. Luckily we found a small trickle of water at the second pool of Cottonwood Spring. Enough to be moving and sink our pumps. This water had to last as it did not look like we would get another chance until we got closer to seven springs. After we got water there was another good elevation push. From what I looked at online I knew it was mostly down hill from here and it was. The trail crossed over the dry creek bed several times after we veered to the north. This leg was much more easy going. At one point we did come to a cross road, up the hill or continue the creek bed. Well the creek bed seemed like a good idea all the way until we slammed right into private property. We lucked out and the ranchers were out and allowed us to cut through their property to the number 4 trail. I'm not sure if we shaved any distance off but I would recommend staying on the trail because the next group may not be as welcomed. Once we were on the number 4 we knew we were close to where we wanted to camp. A little over 15 miles into the trip we re-upped on water just to be sure one more time. A few yards more and we found a great camp spot. We found a scorpion trying to get warm by the fire. He was not aware of what caliber of people were camping. He was promptly charred and eaten. "Nutty" is the answer. Once huddled into our tents it felt like I had packed just the right amount of gear. At 2am I was cold. I no longer had good feelings about leaving my hoodie at home. The REI 1.5 mat however was the best decision ever. What a great bargain and comfortable enough to sleep on my side.

On the second morning at 8am it was good to know we had under 10 miles to go. Breakfast was good, water was replenished and the camp was left like we were never there. I had high hopes that we would be closer to the water and have some shade on the way out. This was not the case. The shade quickly disappeared again to a very rocky and uncovered trek. Beautiful scenery and many more places to explore along the way. There was one point along the second day that we popped up a few hundred feet in a very short distance. This did not feel pretty on feet but when it was done was almost all of the elevation we would experience and now it was only 5 miles of down hill. When we finally made it off trail around 1:30pm we were beat but happy.
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There were flowers sprouting everywhere.

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Low flow and dry spots along the way. Get what you can when you have the chance.
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Apr 13 2013
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47 male
 Joined Jun 10 2011
 Phoenix, AZ
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Apr 13 2013
The_DudeTriplogs 364
Backpack26.09 Miles 5,520 AEG
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Great loop of Sonoran Desert. We went counterclockwise from a spur Cross to Seven Springs and continued a few miles before we made camp for the night. The Cottonwood side was pretty dry, and we took care of most of our elevation on the first day. Good camp spot not far from the creek, plenty of water to filter for drinking and cooking. The next morning we broke camp after breakfast and trudged our way back to the truck. Arizona flora was on full display, I don't think I have ever seen so many blooming plants out in the desert. The only downside to this trip is the almost complete lack of shade, you can really tell that this area is still recovering from the fires 10 years ago. I would gladly do this one again!
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Apr 13 2013
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54 male
 Joined Jul 16 2011
 Phoenix, AZ
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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EartheistTriplogs 234
Backpack26.00 Miles 5,520 AEG
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Long lasso loop around Skull Mesa. Very dry on the Cottonwood 247 trail, just a few trickles, one of which we did filter some water from towards the very end, a couple miles from the Seven Springs, Cave Creek trail junction. Found a good camp site a mile or so in on the Cave Creek trail, headed back out in the a.m. Nice hike out, since it was mostly downhill(!), but there were some ups, and they seemed a little tougher after 20 miles :). A lot of the trail is loose rock, so a little slippery going down at some of the steep angles. Hell on the blisters that I acquired by the end of the previous day. Moleskin prep next time. Nice hike though, barely saw another soul the entire time, human or otherwise. Nice without the people, but sadly lacking any wildlife sightings. Saw a Robin, a couple squirrels, one garter snake, one scorpion. I was out here 2 weeks prior and saw lots more animals just on the spur cross and a few miles up Trail 4.
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Jan 09 2013
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58 male
 Joined Jan 30 2011
 Chandler, AZ
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking24.52 Miles 3,950 AEG
Hiking24.52 Miles   7 Hrs   52 Mns   3.12 mph
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Senior Frick came up from Tucson and we went for a loop hike that was inspired by Mt98Dew. I've done a decent amount of hiking in the area but never did the bulk of the Cottonwood Trail. The overall hike was better than expected with varied terrain. I will likely be doing this one again sometime soon.

Thanks for driving up Nick and a big thanks for the slurpee afterwards! :y:
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Jan 09 2013
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 Joined Jun 20 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Cave Creek / Cottonwood Loop via Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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fricknaleyTriplogs 4,124
Hiking24.52 Miles 3,950 AEG
Hiking24.52 Miles   7 Hrs   52 Mns   3.12 mph
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nice long leg stretcher in a totally new area for me. weather could not have been nicer. really fun hike, thanks amigo :)

awesome to see water out in the desert
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Nov 23 2012
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61 male
 Joined Jun 02 2008
 Cave Creek, Az
Cave Creek Trail #4Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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CdnInAzTriplogs 114
Backpack9.20 Miles 1,490 AEG
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my son and I threw a last minute trip together. Hiked into Tonto, camped, hiked back out. He cooked dinner :) A nice outing on Thanksgiving weekend.
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