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Apr 12 2025
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 Joined Mar 11 2002
 Gilbert, AZ
Garden Valley - Hackberry LoopPhoenix, AZ
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VashtiTriplogs 276
Hiking5.73 Miles 679 AEG
Hiking5.73 Miles   2 Hrs   22 Mns   2.42 mph
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Quick morning hike in the supes! 😁☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️ Saw 2 rattlesnakes and a covey of quail in the last half mile. 😁😁🥰🥰🐍🐍💚💚 Few people out on the trail, but the heat is really culling the amount. There were maybe 5ish cars each at the horse lot and first Water TH. There were way more people at crosscut TH.

There are a lot of bees at the main big campsite by the wash in the hackberry spring area, and also just past the area where the trail crosses the wash before heading uphill. We saw one lone camper and their pup.
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Hackberry Mesa Gold Loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking11.94 Miles 2,033 AEG
Hiking11.94 Miles   8 Hrs   7 Mns   1.79 mph
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On a bigger hike we did five years ago, I stumbled upon the word "ORO" and some arrows etched into a rock face, well away from any trail. I told myself I'd come back someday and make a half-arsed effort to find a route off the top of this peak in the general direction of the arrow.

Starting from the First Water Trailhead, we walked back toward the horse lot for a short distance before going cross-country to join up with the now-defunct FR1455. We connected with some use trails that are in better shape than most of the trails in the Supes, and two miles in, we started our off-trail jaunt. It was easy going for the most part until we began our climb to the unnamed/unnumbered peak at about 2,740 feet in elevation. We let the wind dry us up a bit and then headed over to the minor peak that held the inscription. It’s still there (Joe had his doubts).

Now the fun began—finding our way to the wash. It was loose and slow going, taking 50 minutes to travel 0.6 miles. We had a bit of a break before tackling our next uncertainty: dropping into Boulder Canyon. There were a few dry falls to bypass and some brushy areas, but an hour later and one mile in, we made it into Boulder Canyon.

Joe was glad for the 1.5 miles of boulder hopping and reed thrashing. Once we reached the Second Water Trail, we began seeing humans.

We were in and out of fire-scarred terrain for the entire hike. Some areas looked like a burned moonscape, with nothing more destroyed than Garden Valley.

The temperatures were good throughout the day, and there were plenty of pools of water out there from the recent rains.
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Did not check the spring location but there was a light flow in the creek
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Mar 16 2025
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 Tempe, AZ
Garden Valley - Hackberry LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking6.44 Miles 551 AEG
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Umpteenth time hiking this trail, but first time seeing it since the Siphon Fire. :( There was lots of water near Hackberry Spring but it was a shame all the shady camping spots are gone.

Highlights were seeing a double rainbow and my first Sonoran desert tortoise IRL at First Water Creek.
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Nov 29 2024
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 Joined Mar 11 2002
 Gilbert, AZ
Hackberry Spring LoopPhoenix, AZ
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VashtiTriplogs 276
Hiking5.96 Miles 720 AEG
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Quick hike to hackberry springs. Garden Mesa is sad. Hackberry springs area is slightly better, with some unburned areas.

First Water lot had lots of people, but didn't see too many people on the trail until later. As we drove out, there were lots of people in every parking area on first Water road. Glad we went earlier! Gorgeous weather!
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May 16 2024
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 Mesa, AZ
Garden Valley - Hackberry LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Wally, Linda and I got out for a leg stretcher in the Supes! We got an early start and were in the shade for the first 4 miles. Finished before it got to warm. Pretty dry out there in the valley. The spring looked a little yucky. There was more water in the creek then I thought there would be. That water looked a lot better then the spring water! We saw some tadpoles in the creek water and Linda spotted one frog with a tail. It was nice to get a little hiking in the Supes! Thanks for the early hike Wally and Linda! Like HAZ, you rock!
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May 16 2024
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Garden Valley - Hackberry LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Met Denny & Wally at First Water at 0500. Driving thru AJ at 0430 is an interesting experience, btw. Headed out on Dutchman and Second Water to Garden Valley. Shade the whole way. Garden Valley is a golden sea of foxtails, one spark and that place is going up in flames.

Made our way to Hackberry. The spring is yuck, but plenty of water in the creek after that point. Easy to keep the feet dry, but enough water for nice pics. Didn’t get much sunlight until the last mile or so. Nice early morning workout loop. Saw one other hiker who started at the same time as us. A pleasant surprise of rain showers on part of my drive back home, and at my house, including some thunder. Always good to see Denny & Wally again, thanks for the invitation!
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Gross water. Water in the creek west of the spring looks much better.
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Mar 30 2024
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Hiking9.50 Miles 1,081 AEG
Hiking9.50 Miles   5 Hrs   46 Mns   1.95 mph
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Decided to join a Meetup for 9 am. This is an hour from my place so the start time is early for me. Advertised as Hackberry Springs Loop but upon comparing my route to those available on here, found a diff match.

Two of us branched out on 2nd Water and then checked out a couple side trails. Beautiful area altho not much in the way of water as of today.
 
Feb 17 2024
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8 million cars in the area given our late start. We originally planned on doing canyon of the water falls from praying hands plus treasure loop or massacre falls. Since all those Trailheads were full, we headed out to first Water Trailhead. We lucked out and took a spot of someone leaving the entirely full lot (there was room at the horae lot when we passed by). We decided to do the hackberry Springs loop as my out of town friend wanted no elevation gain.

There were quite a few people on the trail, as expected, but not too bad. There was water everywhere... Glorousness!! 😁😁😁😁❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Yay, water! So much water! Flowing, in large deep pools... Happy desert! 😁😁❤️❤️ The water was expected given all the rain, but still it's so nice to see.

Lots of backpackers going out, and lots of tents around garden Mesa.

We had a quick snack in the hackberry springs, then headed through the canyon back to the first Water ranch area/junction with Dutchman tail.

A fantastic hike with amazing weather! :)

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Jan 12 2024
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 Gilbert, AZ
Garden Valley - Hackberry LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.87 Miles 1,524 AEG
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1045 start. I queued up a nice easy loop hike from the Needle Vista lot to Hackberry Spring, up to Garden Valley and back via Second Water trail and the Horse Lot.

Then I got silly and added a second loop with an off trail trek across Black Mesa to Second Water Canyon, which pretty much negated the little saunter I had in mind.

The view east from the top of Black Mesa almost made it worth the effort. While in Second Water Canyon I came across some old pipes and a spring box that I didn’t expect to see.

It was chilly out with clear skies, just a wisp of breeze. Didn’t see many people today.


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Nice clear pool at the spring

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A couple of clear pools just below the spring.

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The spring was full and clear, with clear pools just below the spring.
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 Gold Canyon, AZ
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After a long hike Sunday my plan today was a quick and easy 6 miler doing the Garden Valley, Hackberry Spring loop. A cold start to the hike with only a couple cars in the parking lot. Made my way up to Garden Valley with a quick stop over at the arch that Andy showed me last time out this way. Stopped by Hackberry Spring for a few and made my way down First Water Creek. As I exited the small canyon and got to the flat rock area, I attempted to jump from one rock to the next when I felt a pop in my right calf. At first I thought I hit it on something but as I tried to stand up, I realized it was more then that. The 'pop' was my calf muscle tearing when I attemped to jump. I sat there for a little bit, hoping it would feel better but unfortunately it did not. I had about a mile to get back to the TH, so it was a very slow one legged wobble back. My calf is pretty swollen and bruised, I've been icing it trying to get the swelling down and I'll see how it feels tomorrow, but it looks like I'm out of action for a little while. I feel fortunate that I was only a mile out instead of being isolated somewhere on the east side. So much for an easy hike.
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Pipe was barely dripping, however, there is water in the small cave in the rock.
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 Chandler, AZ
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My niece wanted to experience a hike in the Supes. So we finally came upon a good day that was available to both. It was a fantastic day, if anything a bit on the cool side. We were early enough that we saw very few people on the trail. Not really any wildlife. A few wildflowers. But the Supes made a mark upon her. She will be back.
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Hiking5.74 Miles 670 AEG
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A splendid morning for a hike. Bright blue skies, a slight breeze and relatively low temps. I came across a baby diamondback doing its best to make some noise, but it's not quite ready for prime time.

The washes on the drive in picked up some extra sand from the rain on Tuesday. It might be a little tricky for low clearance vehicles.
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A little mossy at the top, but plenty of water for filtering. There are also a couple of pools in the creek just beyond the camp site.
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The First Water Trailhead parking lot was full at 10am, with several vehicles driving in circles waiting for spots, but the nearby Hackberry Springs lot was almost empty. We parked at the Hackberry Springs lot and ended up walking along a well-traveled wash, until it intersected with the Hackberry Springs Trail, which we followed to the Second Water Trail, then looped back to the start. The creeks had mild-moderate flow. There were six creek crossings total, all of which were easily traversed on rocks. The northern part of the loop was pretty marshy, and one of us sunk pretty deep into the mud at one point. There were some nice views, including Garden Valley, the Ridgeline, and Weaver's Needle. There were a few patches of wildflowers. There were a lot of people out; we encountered at least 10 other groups. There wasn't much overall elevation gain. It started out chilly, but got warm (>70°) pretty quickly when the sun emerged from the clouds. We finished in time to make it to the White Sox - Dodgers Spring Training game. Overall it was nice, not particularly memorable.
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Feb 03 2023
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Easy hike with the dog. Up Second Water, thru Garden Valley, around Hackberry Spring. Lots of water, which Harlow loved. Plenty of other hikers as well. Warm, but breezy.

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Water everywhere in the area.
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Jan 30 2023
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We started this hike from the Weavers Needle Vista Viewpoint. A pleasant hike
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 Mesa, AZ
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Instead of going to the gym, I hike Garden Valley.
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Feb 26 2022
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Love the GV!
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A few brittlebush were flowering.
 
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