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Toms Creek Canyon to WCC - 8 members in 12 triplogs have rated this an average 3.4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Clover Loop and a bit of Toms, AZ 
Clover Loop and a bit of Toms, AZ
 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,806
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I've been looking at this one for a while, and based on past triplogs, I'm wondering if it is worth a go or would be too choked with debris.

I cobbled together a loop that started in Clover Creek Canyon and then looped with Tom's Creek. The first 2 miles sailed by with chirping birds and butterflies. After that, things slowed considerably. At that point, I wished I'd worn my long pants, long shirt, and brought the new grippy Solomons.

It got really slow going, and I finally decided to bail to the north and check out some new territory. This bailout ended up being almost the entire 600'+ of AEG for the loop.

Up top, I followed an old forest road to get to FR6374. There had been a 100' wide, very recent prescribed burn on the north side of this road.

At Turkey Tank, I turned to the west and took Snake Draw back to the car.

Having some time, I drove over to FR142 and Tom's Creek to sample a bit of it. The first 1/2 mile is on a 2-track, and then the fun starts. There's enough flowing water in the canyon to slow you down a bit if you want to keep dry. At the 1.25 mile mark, wanting to stay dry, I turned around and headed back.

I need to make an attempt to complete the loop I'd planned. Both canyons were very pretty and are begging to be explored.
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Clover & Toms, AZ 
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Canyoneering8.00 Miles 1,800 AEG
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Hit up a buddy with the idea to do this hike, I bailed on this hike once before back in 2020 and with the clear weather in the forecast it seemed like a good time to give it a go.

The Plan

Was to start near the parking lot adjacent Highway 87 and FR 142; heading north through Clover Creek Canyon then southwest to the junction of Toms Creek to find camp; the next morning continuing on through Toms Creek to the junction of Pivot Rock Canyon; and finally heading south/southeast through Pivot Rock Canyon back up the ‘trailhead’ adjacent FR 616. Here we’d have another car parked so we could avoid the 2-3 miles of road back to the start of the hike.

The Outcome

We completed roughly half of what we had set out to do. Our bail out point was approximately two miles south/southwest from the junction of Toms and Clover and up to FR 9399X to FR 142 which we walked back to the car.

The TL;DR

It’s not worth your time and don’t even bother with this hike.

My Drivel

Our hike began around eleven AM Saturday morning. The temperature was in the low sixties at the start of the hike and climbed a few more degrees before settling back down to 60 degrees while hiking through the canyon. During our first two miles in this section we passed a solo hiker and two groups of people with dogs. I imagine this section of trail is decently popular and some-what crowded on a holiday weekend. The area showed signs of once abundant wildflowers. We likely missed that show by probably about a month. I am sure it’s quite nice in its prime. It was also noted that during my visit, Clover Creek did not show any recent signs of flow and no pools of water were observed. Overall this section of trail is nothing special but decently pleasant to hike.

As we continued on past mile two the evidence of the trail becomes fainter and less traveled. Towards end of the first two miles, we noticed two campsites which appeared to be sparsely used. The two campsites are spaced approximately one tenth of a mile from one another. The first campsite we encountered had rock seats and a small fire pit, second site showed signs of even less use with the fire pit being mostly dismantled. Each campsite was noted as being clean and probably had not seen use in at least a few months if not longer. It’s nice to see people leaving the area clean and not over used.

Moving beyond the campsites further into the canyon and approximately three and one half miles in is where things changed. You encounter your first obstacle which was a big boulder that obscures a pool of water about the size of a jacuzzi. The water is about waist deep, partially muddy, and decently cold. This is also where the northern terminus of the trail you were following ends. From here on out you’re choosing the pathway of least resistance.

Beyond the aforementioned section, the conditions of the canyon just continued to degrade and become more challenging. Our pace slowed down to less than one-half miles per hour in sections. Intensely thick brush, debris piles, and pools of cold ankle to waist deep water where encountered. This is what you can expect for the next nearly four miles of hiking until the canyon begins its hard left turn to the southwest. As we continued northward zigging and zagging through the canyon, the brush became thicker and higher. In some cases towering three to four feet over our heads. What in the hell had we decided to get in to? …and was this even worth the effort! Lots of things that just said you need to turn around now. It wasn’t until about mile four things once again changed...

At around mile four and change, you’re going to encounter the down climb that’s mentioned in prior triplogs. The down climb is immediately following a sharp right turn into the canyon. This spot in the canyon is actually some-what scenic as things really tighten up and your views are mostly unobscured from overgrowth or debris piles. The obstacle itself is much more daunting than it actually is. In my opinion, this is one of the easier obstacles encountered on the hike in. The way down is fairly straightforward…

There is a log located at the downclimb that is partially submerged in the pool of water below. This can assist you with your climb back up and out as well as your way down. We adjusted the position the log to be a bit more locked into place during our visit. The short wade is cold but not too awful. The depth of the pool of water below ranges from waist to (estimated) shoulder deep at its deepest. We stopped short distance from this climb to filter a liter of water and take a quick breather. Maybe now the hike gets better? Nah.

The next major obstacle is immediately following this downclimb and is a bit tricky to navigate. It’s a debris pile of partially submerged wood floating in a tank of water which we estimated at about five feet in depth. It looks like you can just walk right across this section. As much as you may want to do this, don't do that. If you do you're going to be slowed up by a mess of debris in a some-what deep pool of water. The way we mitigated this section was to stick to the right, look for the bigger log parallel to the canyon wall. It’s about a four foot shimmy across the log to solid footing. As your step on this log it will partially submerge but should give you support to reach solid footing.

When you’re not fighting with the thick unrelenting brush, down climbs, or pools of water with hidden booby traps you’re dealing with debris piles. One in particular gave me a good scare for a second. I managed to lose a leg as it busted through into the darkness below. My foot never hit bottom. That was a flash of type 3 fun in a quick (expletive) hurry. Thankfully, I was okay and without injury. The mood changed after this incident and it seemed as though the thought of this hike was just a bad idea. Leading up to the point of this incident the occasional chit-chat was still occurring. Following this incident, things quieted down between my buddy and I, we were now questioning our decisions of continuing on past the downclimb. This hike was turning into what seemed to be a never ending slog, something that is not only physically but mostly mentally taxing. It wasn’t getting any better just worse. We didn’t go into this hike blindly; we had the expectations of this hike being some-what miserable, but not quite as bad as it was.

It wasn’t until the canyon began its hard left turn southwest, that the hike again changed. This is where things opened up and became a more pleasant stroll through the woods. It was kind of wild how the canyon just opened right up and spit you out into what was mostly a walk in the park. A completely different change of pace from the last four and half miles of hell.

Having arrived in this area around 5pm and with with waning sunlight our goals soon changed. We needed to find reliable water and home from the night. We decided on a campsite around 100 yards from the confluence of Clover Creek and Toms Creek. The site was decently level and previously used. Nothing spectacular but it worked for our needs. Our water source was not too far of a walk and tasted great and filtered well. Despite the hike being a chore we were both in high spirits and thankful to be over and done with the sufferfest in which we just experienced.

As we settled in for the evening we laughed and shared thoughts on the hike and decided to call this one good. We discussed some exit route ideas with the intent of getting the hell out instead of persevering on. We were both over the area and didn't need to prove anything to ourselves or others. The assumption was that much of the same conditions as experienced in Clover as would be in Toms and so on. The past two years of decent monsoons have made these areas very ‘special’ and a bit cumbersome to navigate.

The next morning came quickly with a not so restful night of sleep. The overnight low fell to 42 degrees and was decently humid. Overall very quiet with just the sounds of owl and occasionally the cry of a fox were noted. We began our hike later starting at around 9:45 thinking we would have an easy exit route back to the car. We began our back track to the drainage which we had discussed the evening prior. This seemed like a really neat area and looked promising on the topo. Nope. The next section up was through a nearly vertical debris pile which looked rather sketchy. Luckily we only made it about 300 feet into the drainage before having to turn back and head toward Tom Creek Canyon. This area wasn’t done with us just yet.

Toms Creek Canyon was much of what we had already experienced in Clover Creek but with a bit more poison ivy. At approximately two miles up Toms Creek Canyon we found a bailout point leading to now closed forest road 9399X. The way up was thick and brushy for the first half with the last half being a very steep ascent up a game trail. From here it was route finding to FR 142 and then back down to the car.

Final Thoughts

In retrospect, I think the hike was a fun adventure with good company but I am okay with calling this a one and done. I’m glad I did it, but it was a proper pumpkin kicking from the West Clear Creek Wilderness. There are some short stretches of pretty dang awesome but a lot of it was whole lots of 'nope' and is not worth the price you'll pay to get there.
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Did not travel all the way to Willow Valley, only to the confluence of Toms Creek. Water is first observed at around the 3.5 miles in. Various pools of standing but crystal clear water. Once the canyon begins it's hard turn southwest headed towards the confluence of Toms Creek this area is largely dry. You may find a seep in the area but there seems to be reliable water directly at the confluence of both Clover and Toms Creek.

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Pivot - Toms - HnD - Corduroy, AZ 
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I needed something cooler and wanted to check out some new area around Pivot Rock.
This loop for the most part was shaded

Starting just off of SR87, I followed an old 2 track, which is the beginnings of Pivot Rock Canyon. This turned into a real nice single track that seems to get a bit of use. Wildcat spring was flowing nicely.

I was in the area and hadn't checked out Pivot Rock Spring in awhile, so I made the side trip over there.
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From this point of the hike on, there were areas of water. Enough water to soak my neck gaiter in, to keep me cool.

At one point in PR Canyon I interrupted three campers taking a bath in one of the deeper pools. awkward...

I wanted to check out a bit of Toms Creek. There were some nice clear pools of water scattered through the short bit i got into. I found a shady spot next to a pool for a lunch break and my turn around point.

On the way back, I took Hicks and Duncan Canyon to Corduroy Canyon. I found a rock alcove with a blackened ceiling that appeared to have been used for quite some time.

On the day, 1 group of hikers, a handful of ORVs and campers, 2 snakes. Also, 2 guys shooting automatic rifles that scared crap out of me, when they started firing when I was about 100yds away.

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So this is the completion of my "thru hike" eastbound in WCCW. This adventure started at the Clover Creek/Toms Creek trailhead just off the 87 (you can literally hear passing traffic), where the 142 and 616 converge to a dead end. Another name for this area is Snake Draw. The majority of this trail including the beginning of the WCCW area (you'll pass thru a small barbed wire "gate") is a leisurely stroll through absolutely lush and gorgeous pine forest and fern covered grounds. Several perfection campsites will pop up as you travel along. The creek becomes more technical and some small water crossing, boulder hopping, and drop navigation will offer a bit of fun. The are plenty of opportunities to practice your lumberjack skills, albeit with overgrown brush. You'll think you've lost the trail but keep following the water. In one of the most overgrown beastly areas, there's path that leads up the slope to a camp spot with a full on stacked stone fireplace, reminiscent of a wood fired pizza oven! Crazy! Continue down the creek until you reach the convergence with Willow Valley to find a large open area between all the canyons with great swim, fish, camp sites. Heading downstream we encountered some heavily overgrown brush with loads of thorns. You can attempt to find passage up on the canyon walls and slopes, but sometimes you'll be forced just to whack your way through it all. Eventually, we passed Tramway and Maxwell trails and made our way down to Sundance Canyon and the Point trail. Honestly, this one of the most picturesque sections of WCCW and just hitting the Point Trailhead on a day hike is more than worth your time. You'll also run into quite a few more people depending on which day of the week you pass through. From there, it's one beautiful turn after another as you make your way from the higher elevations of Clints Well and Happy Jack down to the sandstone canyons and waterfalls that grace many an Instagram picture. I'll be posting my hike of Willow Valley next to complete my exploration of this gem of a wilderness.
 
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Did a figure-8 loop including Pivot Rock Canyon and Toms Creek, and then some off trail and old jeep trails. Hit two areas where we had to fight our way through the dense vegetation. Really neat area. Saw a few others at camp sites but had the trails and remote jeep trails to ourselves.
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Saw Karl and Kathy's loop from last year and put it on the list :) The descent was a bit overgrown, wet and very slippery from all the rain. Eventually you get to the bottom and join the easy tracks/trail. We did a side trip down Toms Creek and then back up Pivot Rock Canyon to The Rock and spring. Saw a few cows, squirrels and a hawk.
After Pivot we drove over to Clover Creek and went to the old bridge and back.
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Wanted to get out of te heat so headed up to the rim :y: I had planned to do a totally different hike but ended up going down Tom canyon at the last minute. Got to the trailhead at 7:30am it was beautiful, I had already seen a cow elk with a very small calf, a coyote with 2 small pups and only one other person :D It was going to be a good day. Most of the morning I was hiking in the shade and that kept it cool almost till I had to turn around. This trail, well there isn't an actual trail and for that matter there aren't a lot of game trails either :-k . This "canyon" was very cool! And very difficult! The cayon has running water and the ground is covered in flowers, mint and poison ivy :doh: . It started to get difficut at the 1 1/2 to 2 mile mark. The canyon is overgrown with vines, wild roses and the dreaded locust bush. To go much farther than I had gone I would recommend a mechete or brush knife. There are also lots and I mean LOTS of fallen trees to deal with. But with all that being said it was well worth the effort. I was at the 3 mile mark when I noticed that the water going down my back wasn't sweat :o my water bladder was leaking. I have no doubt that I could have drank the water in the stream but I'm not real fond of the smell [-( . So I truned around and headed back.
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I figured I should squeeze in something on the Rim before the snows come...
I hiked down Toms Creek until dusk, then decided to hike up to FR 142 via a sidecanyon. Winter days are too short. I want summer!
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I was looking for non-technical overnighter up on the rim to just getting away from it all and mid-April is usually when all the rim roads re-open so I figured I'd drive up and see how much snow was left and which roads I could access and was pleased to see no snow and the roads pretty much all re-opened. :y:

I worked that Saturday morning, but I drove up that afternoon and got a few miles in on FR142 before parking and beelining across the rim towards middle Tom's Creek and dropped in via a steep side drainage. It'd been SO long since I'd been in WCC that I was quickly enchanted by even a hint of the sandstone goodness yet to come. :D Followed Tom's Creek downstream to its confluence with Clover Creek and continued on to the confluence with Willow Valley and the beginning of WCC and setup camp at a sweet campsite nearby. Nice, it only took 3 hours of scenic rock hopping to get here. :sweat: Heated up a Mountain House, rolled out my bag & pad, made a small fire, watched as the full moon lit up the canyon thru the clouds, and listened to the many canyon sounds. ;)

Woke up early the next cool morning, did the morning rituals, and made an early trek up Willow Valley to the 'springs'. The morning stayed cool and the water was chilly, so I avoided the creek when possible and stuck to less scenic side trails. The deciduous trees and ferns and grass haven't all grown back yet with much evidence of some massive winter flows that rushed thru here, but Willow Valley was still just as amAZingly beautiful as she ever is. :D On the way up, I saw a handful of geese and even a few elk grazing down in the creek. Once at the springs, I chilled at took a lunch break & power nap before returning downstream and taking loads more photos in the better light. At the confluence & back at camp, I packed back up my full backpack and by then I'd decided I wasn't going to return the way I came in but instead continue down WCC and exit up 142E trail and walk 142 back to my car. :sweat: It's been a few years since I'd hiked straight thru this part of WCC so I was kinna surprised and how close every thing was together. :lol: Before I knew it I was passing the Maxwell trail, Tramway trail, the springs and Sundance Canyon already?!? :o I crossed the waist hike chilly creek to enter the Cathedral of lower Sundance Canyon as was treated with the lightly trickling 180ft falls and a 6th high ice/snow mound at the bottom. After checking that out, I continued around the corner and up the 142E trail and was pleased that I'd still have plenty of light for the LONG road walk back to my car. :sweat:

WOW, West Clear Creek always has a way of blowing my mind every spring/early summer with it's amAZing beauty and I can't wait to start canyoneering here again. :y:
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By all means do this canyon and nearby Clover Canyon in late spring / early summer, when the clean, flowing creeks will make for a much more enjoyable time.
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Did from WCC to FR 142 with a full set of camping gear. Too hot to enjoy today. Plus, Clover is a bushwhack.

Flushed out two huge bull elk on the way upstream in the morning.

I think Toms Creek should be renamed "Elk Highway". There's enough elk droppings in the canyon to...well...I don't know how to complete that sentence.

Of note, the 4-5 hours in the trip description is for each way. It would be impossible to do a round trip in that much time.
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Well I was looking for a way to access upper WCC this summer with just my car and then toddak posted this timely trail writeup. :bigth: I've done that Willow Valley a few times, but I always wondered what WCC's other drier fork would be like to hike. I left work around noon on Friday and drove north to the FR142/AZ87 junction and parked at that small parking lot just off of the highway to save some wear on my car and just hiked the half mile up the meadows and over the ridge to the TH. From there it's just as the writeup describes with an easy old road to hike at first as it snakes around, then a couple miles in it narrows up a bit with some small pools/rock hopping/log jams for a few miles, and then it dries up and gets easier again for another mile until it reaches Tom's Creek. It was around 7pm when I reached that confluence (took about 3.5 hours to hike thus far) and decided to take advantage of the good camping spots instead of pushing on to the WCC confluence. :zzz: After a pleasant night of camping, I packed up and continued on a couple more hours down the last few miles of Clover. That last stretch of hiking was only moderate with mostly dry boulder hopping, only a handful of logs to get around, and some pleasant strolls along the small creek. I found another great camping spot just at the end of Clover at the confluence with WCC and dropped my camping gear there to be my base camp for the weekend. With just my waterproofed gear for water hiking, I continued up that scenic Willow Springs a few miles to the 'springs' that the creek flows from and ate lunch and enjoyed the beautiful day in that amazing canyon. I took a short creekside nap before heading back and since it had warmed up nicely, I swam the few optional swimmers on the way downstream. :GB: I got to camp late in the afternoon and had some time to burn, so I checked out the bottom of that Shamrock Canyon nearby, gathered some firewood to make a fire, and read a few magazines better turning in for the night. If Saturday was my day to relax, then Sunday was definitely the day to get my butt kicked... :sweat: Sunday morning, I woke up early again with the sun and hit WCC downstream a few miles going past Maxwell, Tramway, a short into the echo chamber of Sundance Canyon, 142E trail, and then took a short sidetrip up the bottom of Bear Canyon before heading back upstream. I passed a good dozen good campsite in those few miles and about half of them were filled on this 'busy' weekend. On the way back, I also verified the locations of those 142E & Tramway trails by hiking up them briefly since I haven't hiked down them yet but wanted to make sure I knew where they were in case I needed to bail on them during future WCC trips. 8) I got back to my camp at the Clover/WCC/Willow Valley confluence around 1pm and loaded my camping gear up for the hike out up Clover. I was starting to drag those few miles up to the Tom's Creek confluence and decided to experiment with a potentially shorter more direct route up Tom's Creek and then bushwhack it up and over to FR142. I figured if Tom's Creek was technical I would have heard about it by now or read about it in Todd's book... :lol: I stuck to that windy creek about a mile before finding a bushy hikeable side canyon full of fallen trees that was heading in the direction I needed to hit that forrest road. It was a little steep, but I kept pushing up to the ridge, got a GPS lock, headed in the direction of my car, and shortly ran into that FR142 following it a couple miles to AZ87 and my car. :sweat: It ended up being about two miles shorter and saved me another two hours of tiring canyon hiking. Yet another great adventure into WCC for an amazing 2.5 day trip... :D
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Yea, canyoneering is an extreme sport... EXTREMELY dramatic!!! =p
 
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