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KP Rim Loop - 11 members in 12 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Jul 26 2025
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42 male
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 Phoenix, AZ
KP Rim LoopAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Tried this loop (with Steeple rather than the Long Cienega route mentioned in the official guide) a few years ago and bailed on the way down KP Creek, following a game (bear) trail straight up to the KP rim. I decided to try it the opposite direction this time, in order to get the potentially overgrown part of Steeple out of the way first.

First mistake was that I left all my nutrition in Phoenix, so I had to buy stuff at a gas station in Eagar. And in retrospect, I needed more calories.

Things were going OK for awhile. At about 8k elevation, in the upper reaches of Steeple trail, I very nearly stepped on a black-tailed rattlesnake, which unlocked a whole new fear about something I didn't think I'd have to worry about up there. Steeple Trail was in surprisingly good shape considering all the locust in the area, and I didn't have any serious route finding issues until I was within a quarter mile or so of Paradise Park trail. It started getting a little scratchier right before the junction, but past Paradise Park trail there was a nice shady stretch with a couple spots with an actual trickle in the creek.

I was expecting the dry stretch of KP Trail that traverses along the bench to be potentially hot, scratchy, and miserable, but it was actually not too bad. While the trail was faint in places, it was always pretty intuitive where it went, with some occasional confidence cairns and even a set of someone fresh footprints.

I was happy to get to KP Creek, but it turned out this was where the struggle really began. There was a really overgrown stretch just upstream from the McKittrick trail junction where I was really not sure where I was supposed to be. At one point I saw an apparent path leaving the creek on the north side, which I followed and wasted 15-20 minutes following probably game trails before I decided I need to backtrack and follow the creek. Things improved slightly within a half mile or so upstream from the Blue Cabin Ruins trail (still signed, but the trail looked nonexistent), but that's where the grade really started increasing.

By the time I got to the South Fork confluence, I was pretty wrecked, and worried about running out of water. I also forgot my filter back in Phoenix, so I kept a bottle of unfiltered creek water for the purpose of at least keeping my mouth moist, which seems to have helped. But the real problem was lack of calories, and I was basically crawling by the time I was on my way up North Fork, and stopping every 10 minutes or so for a break.

Brutal day, but glad I finally got this one done. Unfortunately, with the slow start to the monsoon, there is nothing worth foraging as of yet.

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Good flow from the confluence all the way down to where KP trail leaves the creek. Flow in the north fork starts about a half mile up from the confluence.

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Upper Steeple (above Paradise Park junction) is dry. The springs marked on the map between PP and KP trails have a trickle.
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 Phoenix, AZ
KP Rim LoopAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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KP Rim trail, to its "intersection" with 73 has many downed trees but is generally passable. Unfortunately the turn off for 73 to the north is not marked, and I spent 90 minutes thrashing through locust bush and fallen trees piled 10 feet high looking for it at its place on the map. Checking now that I get back, FOTG posted a route show the intersection in a different place. The trail, even where it may be, must be very faint. I didn't find anything resembling a trail 73, nor Long Cienega 305 trail in the area, but I did find the rest of the Steeple Trail back to Hannagan Campground from the trail 305 area, and upon reaching the highway, I took Ackre Lake trail back to my starting point.

Steeple 73 is nice from its TH near Hannagan Meadow to Grant Creek Trail and probably will earn you credit with your girlfriend, since it is a hike through mostly surviving forest, alongside ferns and flowers. Steeple 73 is primitive between Grant Creek and Cienega 305 "Trail" where it goes through a largely moonscaped area full of locust bush and a few grassy meadows. Steeple trail is godawful from 305 to trail 315, the area being a mess of downed trees and locust bush with no trail apparent. The Forest Service appears to have ignored everything south of Grant Creek Trail, possibly because they cannot find the trail.
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Dry where steeple crosses grant creek, though I didn't venture up the meadow to check on the source.
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Jun 21 2014
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 AZ
Blue Range Primitive Area, AZ 
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Made another pilgrimage east to the Apache-Sitgreaves, more specifically the Primitive Blue Range area, or as my map says the Blue Range Wilderness and Primitive Area. However, even the latter is a bit of a misnomer, as currently the Blue Range has not achieved wilderness status in the eyes of Congress and to this day remains the last "primitive" designated area in the United States. Not sure what any of that means, however, anyone who knows me, knows that I would have a natural attraction to any area with the word primitive in its title. Similarly, since my first visit about a year ago, this area has really intrigued me. It was in this are that Aldo Leopold (arguably the founding father in American conservationism and ecology) obtained his first position working under the federal forest service. Leopold saw much in his day, he spoke fondly of the "mountain" in fact, one of his most famous written works, "Thinking Like a Mountain" is based off of his expediences in and around Escudilla and the Escudilla Wilderness area. So the question for me: could I find what gravitated Leopold to this area and transformed him into perhaps America's first conservationists, but 100 years later and after the greatest forest fire the Southwest has seen in contemporary times? Spoiler alert the answer is a resounding yes!

A chance encounter with a game warden around 10:00 p.m. on Friday changed my plans slightly for the three days. He had personally just conducted a "shocking" and fish count of Grant Creek and gave me some pointers on where all the trout were congregated. However, if I were to hit these areas, I would have to modify my original route of Grant Creek Trail which stays high above the creek until crossing around the lower elevations where the Game Warden officer told me all the fish had been killed or can no longer exist due to warmer water temps caused by the destroying of their natural shade and the naturally warmer water at lower elevations. So from the intersection of trails #76 Foot Creek and #75 Grant Creek I took trail #306 down to Grant Creek and decided I would just fish and hike the whole stream length off-trail to its southern intersection with trail #75. If the fishing and beauty of Grant Creek were not as great as they were, this might have turned out to be a negative experience. Movement down stream was very slow at times, however, as I stated earlier the fishing was amazing and the creek beautiful so it negated the slow moving pace of boulder hoping, and down climbing water falls complete with three day pack and pole in hand, oh and along with keeping Blanco floating and upright through some of the deeper pools and obstacles. From there I made good time to the Blue River, passed through a little bit of civilization as I walked the forest road that connected my ambitious loop. I took the first opportunity to camp at a place marked the "box" on my map. This was one of first areas where there were not a dozen no trespassing signs or signs proclaiming the owner's willingness to shoot me if I stepped foot on their property. Day one turned out to be a little over 17 miles, camping was nice, but not spectacular, ate well, slept well.

I thought day 2 would be a much easier day, however, that did not turn out to be necessarily true, thanks in part to some of my decision making. I hate to give a negative trail description, because with trails everyone has their own opinions, and I would not want to steer someone away from an area. However, Steeple Trail #73 is probably a trail one could leave off their to do list for the time being. The upper sections of the trail have really been damage by fire and the trip across KP Mesa is enough to make one yearn for a very quick change of scenery. However, that is simply not the case as you seem to hike forever to simply cross KP Mesa's fire damaged landscape where one can easily see areas that suffered 100 percent devastation from fire. From Steeple Trail #73 I took trail #70 into the KP Creek area. However, this trail got no better! In fact, I will give a fair warning, if you do not have a G.P.S route for this trail or sound topo reading skills, I would avoid this section of trail all together. One can safely say to some degree that this trail ceases to exist in several spots, littered with dead fall, washed out and very faint in the good spots. Nevertheless, we were doing just fine, traversing the several drainages leading to K.P. when I had the great decision to cut a mile or so off route and explore some off-trail sections of K.P. Creek. The whole situation reminded me of something my friend Jim always says when I am pondering short-cuts and more direct off trail routes. He always says, "if that way is shorter or easier, that would be the way." Well in this case that held to be 100% true. I could tell from cliffs along opposite side of creek that there was potential for not being able to cut down to creek and man did that hold true, cliffed out once, then took a side drainage only to come to an impassible pour-over so intimidating that I did not even snap a photo, Blanco and I finally broke through down about a 4-5 foot wide scree shoot, hit the creek where Blanco drank profusely and I silently chastised myself. One would think at this stage in the game I was done making those kind of mistakes, but something tells me that won't be the last time. We slowly made our way up the lower section of K.P Creek where the trail is a little tough to follow and made camp at a superb location.

The final day was just an easy hike up K.P. Creek to K.P. Rim Trail, back to the upper section of Steeple Trail and back to the TH. Everything on this hike went well except finding my short connector trail to complete my K.P. Rim loop. Similar to the hike description, the turn-off for the trail is very hard to find and the forest fire certainly did not make it any easier. In fact, the author wrote had we not had the route downloaded we would have never found the turn-off. Unfortunately, the author failed to post "said" route to description, I guess his way of adding a little excitement for the next guy, we found it but you are on your own I guess. After accepting defeat I was reserved to back-track and make the less than 2 mile trek down 191 to my TH. However, this whole thought was leaving a bitter taste in my mouth, almost like a surrender, or a walk of shame in my mind. First a small voice contemplated just going off-trail the whole way until I found something to walk on. However, this voice was quickly drowned out by about 1000 sane other voices in my head who still had yesterday's folly fresh in their minds and they quickly and probably for the better got that thought out of my head. I then looked down and could clearly see the meadow I needed to get to, but no trail to get there. I said to myself I will go exactly .25 miles to meadow look for Steeple Trail #73, if I don't find, I turn right around. As luck would have it, after about 100 feet off trail I ran into my long lost connector trail.

The trail now ran in a complete opposite direction of the trail featured on my G.P.S! Oh well no time to curse and dwell, I was happy to be on trails and heading back to car, went through some pretty bad burnt out sections, but oddly enough found some beauty in them. Whether it was the stubborn trees that refused to burn or the half million or so 5 to 15 feet tall Aspen blowing fiercely in the wind and the numerous reinvigorated meadows and cienegas, I found beauty in it all.

Even with the adventure in finding my connector trail, Blanco and I still hit TH by 11:30 in morning.

Final Notes:

HAZ Appreciation I used a hike description from Arizonaed written in 2004 and it turned out to be pretty much spot on. Which is something to say, as he obviously wrote pre-Bear Wallow Fire. Route might need some small adjustments, but overall great hike description!
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May 11 2013
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38 male
 Joined Mar 07 2009
 Colorado Springs
KP Rim LoopAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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KP Rim Trail to Steeple Trail. The turnoff was market with a huge cairn but the trail is faint in the beginning. Shortly after it becomes easy to follow. Took the Upper Grant Creek trail. This begins nice but quickly becomes bushwacking through thick thorn bushes and log hoping thanks to the Wallow fire. After several hours made it to Moonshine Park. Perfect camping area.
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May 31 2010
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53 male
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 Mesa
KP Rim LoopAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Backpack avatar May 31 2010
te_waTriplogs 338
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very hot out there!
i will give my best observations:

1)the steeple creek trail from the t/h all the way down to Mud Spring is in horrible condition. im talking log hurdling every 100 feet, and exposure to unusually hot temps (87 in the shade, what little there was) made for a slow, cursing, banged up first day.
I rate this trail 1 star.

2)the KP and KP north fork trails are nice. small trout in the creek, i caught 2 rainbows and 5 browns in the little time i fished. the issue is, the trout are very small with my largest being 5" long, and the area is nothing nice to the fly fisherman. simply too many treefalls and snags. i think this trail under most conditions is a stong 3.5, maybe a 4.

3)overall the trip was ok, nothing spectacular in the way of great views or special scenery, and i think there are many areas of interest that offer pine and spruce forests that offer more interesting scenery much closer to the valley. the steeple creek trail is in worse shape than many parts of the mazatzals, and it reminded me of the Y-bar trail's evil twin.
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May 29 2010
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 Joined May 14 2008
 Tucson, AZ
KP Rim LoopAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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This was my first hike in the Blue Range. Fantastic isolation. We only saw other people at the end of our three day trip.

Started out on trail 315. Very slow going. Downed trees every few yards. Hot, hot sun. Pretty miserable. The wind sounded extremely eerie as it whipped through the tops of the burned out trees. We stayed to the right to merge onto trail 73. Very similar condition. There was water in Steeple Creek as we continued downhill. The next trail junction was with 74. We took it up to Moonshine Park for our first night's camp. There is water in Grant Creek which is a quick 20 minute round trip(for te-wa). This is definitely a wildlife hot-spot. Elk and deer showed up to chomp on the delicious meadow plant-life.

The next morning, we backtracked to the junction with 73 and continued on to an easy to miss creek crossing (look for the large dead alligator juniper). 73 climbs gradually up to the junction with 70, which gains and loses elevation as it crosses several drainages before dropping down to KP Creek. Just before getting to the creek there are nice views down into the canyon. 70 crosses KP Creek several times. Most crossings have ways to get across without getting your feet wet. We chose to camp in a spot off the trail after a few crossings. The closer you get to the North Fork trail, the more established the campsites become. The creek was flowing nicely and there were lots of very small trout. On the way out I got to practice log creek crossings. :scared: Naw, it wasn't that bad.

The final leg of the loop was on trail 93 which gradually, and then not so gradually, brought us back out of the canyon. So much for cool temperatures at high elevations. I think that the KP Creek segment was almost worth the whole bruise-filled trip. Next time, I might just take the North Fork trail down to the creek and explore the tempting side canyons from there.
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Aug 02 2008
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 Gilbert, AZ
KP Rim LoopAlpine, AZ
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I did a little bit different variation loop hike than posted. I went from the KP Rim TH thru the semi-burned ridge, but continued straight on the Steeple trail down the creek and then swung right around the rim into KP creek above a possible 'narrows' section and continued up the North KP trail back to my vehicle. The burnt ridge was a tad disheartening and difficult to navigate but i kept pushing and enjoyed the great views across the canyon. Steeple creek was rather pleasant but the real treat was hiking along KP creek with all its many mini-falls, berries, flowers, mushrooms, and massive trees. This place is definitely worth another visit just for this creek section. :bigth:
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Aug 18 2007
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 Lakeside, AZ
KP Rim LoopAlpine, AZ
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We walked down KP Trail from KP Cienega to Steeple Mesa Trail, then up Steeple Mesa Trail to Hannagan Meadow. Apache NF has completely rehabbed/replaced the route along Steeple Creek where flash floods blew it out a few years ago. It's still a tedious several-mile slog from Mud Spring to the canyon rim, with nothing but charred tree trunks to look at, but at least the trail is good. After a, mostly, relaxing night at Hannagan Meadow Lodge (midnight car alarm in the parking lot - twice!), we hiked back down Steeple Mesa Trail to KP Rim Trail, thence to North Fork KP Trail. Rain caught us about midway down North Fork and persisted a mile or so up KP Trail. Other than soggy feet, we were mostly dry when we returned to our vehicle.

All trails are in good shape with most deadfall removed this season. In burn areas, and most of this country has burned in the past five years, new growth of locust,aspen, bracken and raspberry threatens to overrun the little-used trails. The Blue needs hikers. We encountered five other people but no large wildlife during the two days.
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A group of seven hikers in the 40-60 age range did this hike in mid-July. The description by Boondoggle is very accurate. However, the first turn from trail 315 to trail 73 had moved about 1/2 mile closer to the trailhead. This made the hike down primitive trail 305 a little longer. Primitive is indeed a good description of this trail. Progress is very slow.
We camped at Grant Creek the first night, which was nice, but not spectalur. Got visited by a couple of bears.
The second day was very hot (above 90), which made this a long, hot, exposed hike, with a few nice views. Overall, this portion of the trip was more effort than reward.
Upon reaching KP creek, the scenery changed dramatically. A beautiful, cascading stream with a few nice campsites sprinkled along the way. We camped shortly after crossing the stream, as we were generally exhausted from the roughly six+ hours of hiking in the hot sun.
On the hike out, we ran into two rattlesnakes, and an abundance of poison ivy. KP creek is beautiful, and by far the outstanding portion of the hike. Some of us, due partly to fatigue from the previous day, stayed an extra night and enjoyed a lovely waterfall, and some well-deserved relaxation.
Overall, if you want to take a long, fairly strenuous hike in the Blue Range, this has a wide variety of terrain. For us, the long hiking days didn't leave much time to enjoy the area. Another choice might be to hike into KP creek, spend a couple of nights and explore the area along the creek. There's a lot to see, and it still involves a 2000 ft. elevation change, to keep it challenging.
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Jun 30 2006
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