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Telephone Trail #72 - SedonaSedona, AZ
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Telephone Trail #72 - SedonaSedona, AZ
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One of the benefits of doing yard work in Camp Verde is that I have Sedona and its trails practically in my backyard. Yard work is not so bad when you can throw in a hike. My wife is always surprised at my willingness to come to Verde to maintain the property. :lol: I didn’t get up there quite as quickly as I had hoped, but I was still on trail by 5:30am. Actually felt a little chilly at 60 degrees. Parked at the pullout as described in the trail description. I put out my ABT card just in case, but I wouldn’t think a pass would be needed to park there.

The trail is pretty much as described. It was about .3 miles of relatively flat trail that bordered the road and then it was about .4 miles of aggressive climbing. At first I thought it was going to be a dry water channel hike, with all the annoying round stones that come with it. But it quickly changed to compact dirt intermixed with a sandstone like staircase. The trail was easy to follow, though it was overgrown in places with what I think was Gambel Oak. At .7 the trail hits the flat shelf and goes east for a short distance before dropping down. The views are pretty nice in all directions and as you hike you realize that you are on a jutting peninsula with a decent drop off on both sides. This shelf ends abruptly and if you didn’t know any better and weren’t looking, you might think the trail ends there. But the trail drops down the north side of the shelf bringing you to the peepholes. Very unique formation. The trail continues east for a ways holding its elevation before coming to the slope of the mountain. At first it is similar to your previous climb, sandstone stairs intermixed with a gradual climbing dirt path. And then, from about 1.0 to 1.2 the trails gets very aggressive with its elevation with a smooth, steep dirt slope. Not bad going up, but a potential ski slope going down. (Similar to the Praying Hands Trail in the Supes). By this time you have entered the forest and pine trees surround you. Once you reach the top, the trail becomes a little fainter, but it is a quick commute to the canyon’s edge. The views are pretty nice, but not quite as astounding as I had hoped. I didn’t see any cairns on the trail, but the trail was obvious throughout so I wasn’t looking for them. I was tempted to enjoy the woods and explore a bit, but I did have a yard waiting for me in Camp Verde :( .

Neat hike. The top of the trail was pretty steep going down. I grabbed a branch to use as a pole and the descent was very manageable. No wildlife, no other hikers. I had the trail to myself. The trail had some color, which I tried to capture. Surprised by the number of pine cones. They seemed to gravitate to the trail. Going up, there was a constant crunch as I trod amongst them. Going down, I came close to a “death by pine cone” as I caught three at once on a slope. That would have been one for the books. :lol:
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West Fork of Oak Creek from FR253, AZ 
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Joe came up with this alternative 3 years ago. You get to visit the West Fork of Oak Creek, without fighting Sedona traffic or the parking woes at the West Fork. We had no trouble finding a parking spot, got to hit up 2 little used trails and still were able to enjoy the colors and scenery of the West Fork of Oak Creek.

We started to a chilly 28 degrees, frost on the ground and ice on the puddles. To make this balloon loop work we tied in a couple of FR's. The first 9495, to a short off trail to get to the top of the Telephone Trail #72. This trail can be steep and slippery in spots, but yields some sweet views on the way down. You get the added bonus of visiting the Peeps as you head down.

At the bottom, there's a short walk behind the guardrail to get to the park entrance and your $2.00 walk in admission. There were cars on the street and the lot was full, but while hiking it did not seem too crowded.

This really is a special place with all the contrasting colors and textures, highlighted by the fall pallet. The fall colors should be around another week or so.

We took lunch at a particularly picturesque area before heading out.

The starting point in the parking lot for the Thomas Point Trail #142 is currently obstructed with tall grass. Look for the trail sign that is barely visible through the grass. After you cross over the 89A, the trail climbs back to the top of the rim. The grade on this trail is much steadier the what we dropped in on the Telephone Trail.

A pretty hike and a preferred way to get to the colors, if you don't mind a few more miles. This hike could be cut shorter with a more capable vehicle with some good tires for the rocks. We did have a 4Runner pass us having 0 problems on the FR's
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West Fork of Oak Creek from FR253, AZ 
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Another trip to Sedona's premier destination in foliage. Same as three years ago, we started at 28° battling mythical crowds.

Hiking down Telephone Trail #72 demands my full attention for foot placement but I still love the route. Appears the phone line was hit by a falling tree in the bottom third. Once again, nobody on this trail.

West Fork of Oak Creek
We carefully crossed the highway utilizing safety-first procedures and followed the use-trail along the inner guardrail. Parking was full, the highway was lined with parked cars. Busy in spots, a far cry from crowded. The end of the maintained trail had the largest gathering, maybe 14 people total in small groups spread out.

The autumn foliage was pretty sweet. Perhaps a third of the areas was in prime. Still, plenty of green maple leaves, which surprised me considering the overnight low was 22°. Appears to be trending late and should be good color for another week to the end of the trail. In total, three other groups did not have dogs, so we didn't feel like total poochless losers.

Everyone seemed happy to be out and friendly. We continuously passed a couple with a small dog wearing a sweater, the witty comments kept rolling. Along with an older couple that we accused of being runners over six times. Upon leaving, one lady wanted a report on snakes and tarantulas. Then a family of three, each with fruit picker baskets on a pole.

Thompson Point Trail #142 is the choice of better footing vs Telephone Trail. It sports better canyon views too but doesn't have the unique feel of Telephone Trail.

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Perfect all around. Finished by 3 pm. Robbed Call of the Canyon without driving through Sedona.
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I got lucky and squeaked out all the creek crossings across the rocks and such.
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I was wanting to check out the fall colors on the West Fork Oak Creek Trail, but did not want to drive through Sedona and 89A, so I more or less followed routes that @hikerdw , @joebartels , and the one and only @The_Eagle had done.

My hike was an inverted lasso loop utilizing forest roads and a bit of off-trail to get to the Telephone Trail, then taking that down to the West Fork Oak Creek Trail. On the way back I took the Thomas Point Trail back up to the rim, and then took forest roads back to my vehicle.

The Telephone Trail wasn't all that great, but it was saved by the peepholes, which I really enjoyed seeing.

Once on the West Fork Trail, I went all the way to the end of the maintained trail and then turned around and came back. The best fall foliage was in the first half of the trail, so if you are going just to see the colors, there is no need to go all the way to the end of the maintained trail.

I ascended the Thomas Point Trail, which was a better trail to hike on than the Telephone Trail.

There were some decent yellow oak leaves up on the Rim, which made walking on the forest roads rather nice.

This was the first time that I had been on any of these trails. Were it not for the fall foliage, I would not have cared much for the West Fork Oak Creek Trail -- it was more like a nature walk, and there were way too many people for my liking.

The foliage was nice, but it was missing those vivid reds from the big tooth maples, which are AWOL this year.
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The fall foliage right now is about as good as it is going to get this year. There were lots of yellow and orange colors, but none of the vivid big tooth maple reds.
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Telephone Thomas Point Loop from 253, AZ 
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Saved the best hike for the last full day in Munds Park. Keeping with the plan to do hikes near our VRBO I figured a short five mile drive fit. I got this loop hike idea from a hike posted by @joebartels and @The_Eagle back in 2019. Parked off Willard Springs Road aka FR253 and headed for the Telephone Trail start. Very pretty road walk and the trail was easy to locate. Telephone is very steep but overall in great shape. Enjoyed the peepholes. Views along the way down were outstanding. Reached 89A in no time and walked south to the start of the Thomas Point Trail, stopping to pick a few apples along the way. Thomas Point is a great trail up as the grade is steady but even most of the way. Got to the top in no time. On the walk back to the car the rain started so we stopped and covered the packs which was a good plan as the rain started coming down in buckets. We found a little shelter to try and wait it out but after 20 minutes or so decided to carry on in the rain. When we reached the car we were both drenched so just loaded up and headed back to the house. Even with the heavy rain this was/is an amazing hike. I’d do this monthly if I lived in Sedona or Munds Park for sure.
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West Fork of Oak Creek from FR253, AZ 
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Prologue
When I started hiking, West Fork was a must explore slice of heaven. Need a little more to justify a full day hiking at this point in my life. Planned this out on Route Editor looking to make West Fork accessible east off I-17. Bypass Sedona traffic. Guaranteed hassle free parking. Forest stroll. Includes 2 bonus canyon-to-rim trails.

Access
From I-17 this is 1.9 miles on FR325 aka Willard Springs Road to our makeshift trailhead. 1.1 miles is dirt and old crater crumbling paved road. Negotiable with tender stock tires. High clearance or a lucky few to navigate the better FS roads can drive almost to the rim... beware it gets gnarly in spots if you choose unwisely.

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Calm dry 28 degrees. Did not freeze to death in shorts, pants woulda been cozy. Nice canopy of pines.

Telephone Trail #72 ( Descend )
Steep in spots, otherwise a gem. Rough cut trail, limestone, coconino, overhead views of Oak Creek and the San Francisco Peaks. Bonus morning light at the Peep Holes. 5 of 5 for me. Imagine 3.5 of 5 for most.

West Fork Oak Creek Trail #108
Pompous glare and chests out we walk by the line of cars waiting to enter. $2 walk-in per hiker, no wait. Autumn foliage maxed out earlier in the week based on recent post by @rrshort. Yoga class was in session at one of the carved red rock wall curves you miss if on trail. Great canyon even when busy. Far cry from Piestewa busy on a cool morning.

Thomas Point Trail #142 ( Ascend )
Better canyon-to-rim "trail" maintenance wise vs Telephone Trail #72. Solid choice. That said, #72 gets the nod for my preference.

FR9498 ( Return )
Bruce chatted with a fellow Subaru geek that navigated the non-sedan roads almost to the rim. It was like two chics babbling eyeliner and blush at double mocha warp speed. Nice walk back to square one.

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Enjoyed the three distinct personalities of this hike. Worthy redo to add to the mix. Omitted one option that might be a nice swap for Thomas Point.
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Autumn in West Fork crested earlier in the week based on rrshort's recent posts
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Joe put together this sweet alternative to hit up 2 new trails and access West Fork of Oak Creek without fighting the parking nightmares.

We parked up top, 1 mile as the crow flies, west from I-17.

We passed a herd of 12+ elk on our way looking for the upper TH for the Telephone Trail #72. A large cairn marks the upper TH here. We had good morning light views from the top of The Peaks to the north and west across canyon to the West Fork area. The trail is in decent shape all the way down with great views. We stopped for a moment and checked out The Peeps on our way down. From where the trail reaches 89A, it's a .50m walk to the Call of the Canyon parking.

We walked past the line of 15+ cars waiting for a parking spot to open and paid our $2.00 to start the West Fork of Oak Creek Trail. There is still some color in the canyon, but clearly it was better earlier in the week. This is still a magical place without the color.

The Thomas Point Trail TH is officially located in the Call of the Canyon parking area. Heading SW, you need to go arox. 1/4 mile before crossing 89A and beginning the 1000' climb to the top. The lower 1/2 of this trail is in dense pines, opening up for better views after that. This trail is in good shape all the way to the top and is a steady climb.

I really enjoyed this track that Joe put together to access West Fork. There will be a re-do in the future.
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Oak Creek quintet, AZ 
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Hiked the 5 road-to-rim trails on the east side of upper Oak Creek Canyon. Up and back down on Purtymun, Thomas Point and Telephone, then up Harding / north on the connector trail / down Cookstove. All are steep, well-constructed trails with scenery and big views. I expected more of a thrash on Purtymun but its in mostly good condition all the way to the rim, so it's clearly getting some use and unofficial maintenance.

Hit Cathedral Rock and Bell Rock on the way out of town, fun slickrock.
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Telephone Trail #72 - SedonaSedona, AZ
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Hiked up with a friend starting at about 10:30 AM. It was kind of hot at the start, and it's a very steep trail. The great views of Oak Creek Canyon and taking a dip in the water after the return trip made it a great hike!
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Went up the Thomas Point Trail, cross country on the rim to the Telephone Trail, then down. This is a great loop hike, but finding the Telephone trail on top of the rim can be tricky. There are two large cairns once you're close to the Telephone Trail. Once you find them walk straight out towards the canyon staying on the right side of the ridge you're on and you'll quickly spot the trail.

I recommend going DOWN the telephone trail unless you want a really good workout! We only saw one other group of hikers this day. It got pretty warm by the time we finished at around noon.
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It wasn't too cold in the Canyon on the drive down, so I stopped off and did this. I love those big old pines right at the start. Some of those are really massive. The steep, gravelly trail is a little more treacherous with the pine leaves down on the trail.
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With the Peaks and Elden closed, I headed to Oak Creek Canyon today. Originally planned getting up a 5AM, shooting some soft water shots at the creek and then doing AB Young. Insomnia nixed that idea. Due to the 88 degree temperature forecast today, I decided Telephone would be nice with a little bit of shade opposed to exposed AB Young. Turns out I was battling a bout of slight food poisoning and my ascent was very slow. Fortunately there was quite a nice showing of wildflowers (although not great photo ops), especially numerous agaves blooming in different colors. Enjoyed a shady lunch at the rim with a nice view of the upper cliffs of the West Fork. Birds chirping did a nice job of drowning out the automobile traffic a thousand feet below. The creek seemed busy for a Thursday, but I guess I don't really go to Oak Creek much in the summer anymore so who am I to judge? Went up by the Pine Flat Campground (which is closed for construction) and found some solitude and dunked my feet in the cool water for a few minutes. Drove back to town to find the resurgence of the terrible smoke plume once again dominating the skyline over the Peaks. Today was a bittersweet day.
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I came up the Thomas Point Trail and then hiked to the Telephone Trail. I think it was about 1.75 miles with an additional 150 feet. A nice hike, even if only one way, and the canyon views are great.
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By the time I got to this trail the heat of the afternoon canyon sun was getting to me. What can I say, I am soft. I take cold better than heat, but I like heat more than cold.
Anyway, this trail is great and I loved the variety of it. I didn't get to the Thomas Point Trail today as originally planned, but I did descend it a couple of weeks ago after having hiked up the abandoned Purtymun Trail. I would say the Telephone Trail has all the elements of the other 3 maintained east canyon trails rolled in to one trail, with fantastic views up the West Fork and all of the west canyon walls from the AB Young area to the switchbacks. You can also see some of the canyon below the Slide Rock area, but the ridge just south of the Telephone trail blocks a lot of it.

For being so short, the trail offers a lot. The most impressive thing at the start is the massive old growth ponderosa. I have seen some monsters, and this is up near the top of the list, especially for Arizona. The best thing about it is that off all the big old pines I have seen, this one is easy to get to. You can see it from the road if you don't want to stand up. Eye balling it gave me a height of 120 to 130 feet, and a diameter at breast height of nearly 48 inches! Surprisingly, unlike most of the old pines in the canyon that lost the life in their lower branches from young trees shading them out after fire exclusion began, this one has a full crown for 2/3 of it's height. It's a narrow crown, but still, it looks good. Progressing up I enjoyed the limestone section and the windows were OK, but I've seen that before and that area of the canyon actually has a number of that sort of rock erosion. Once on top I hiked around for a while and put off hiking the Thomas Point Trail for another day since I thought I would enjoy this trail more if I just enjoyed the rim views.

The view up the West Fork is great, even with the sun washing out the details. I would love to get out early to do this, or over night up there, and have early morning light into the West Fork. A certain early rising hippie could get up at 3AM and make a sunrise hike down there to catch the first rays of light on the canyon walls.
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After-school before-work hike. Can't beat a 70 degree day in November!
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Short trip down to Oak Creek Canyon before class. I've had my eye on this one for a while, and it turned out to be quite an enjoyable trail. Sections of it are pretty sketchy in terms of steep slopes with ball bearing rocks.
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Thomas Point Trail #142Sedona, AZ
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tokayoTriplogs 11
Hiking7.50 Miles 1,200 AEG
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We loved this hike, but we wandered ALL over the old logging roads on top looking for the darned connection to Telephone Trail and could not find it! :( Now that we know a LOT more about the logging roads, and have a bunch of GPS points logged, we're going to go back up Telephone and see if we can find it that way.

Overall, a great hike (not one for summertime though, too exposed).

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Oct 28 2007
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Telephone Trail #72 - SedonaSedona, AZ
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tokayoTriplogs 11
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Kris & Yvonne & I intended to do this hike as a connecting loop to Thomas Point trail with the meetin hiking group that was coming up from Phoenix for the day. They were so late that we went up on our own. As always, the scramble up Telephone makes you aware of how strong your calves must actually be to push your body up and up and up.

We got to the top and we were hoping that the meetin group would show up with their map and help us find the connector trail, but no such luck. Using my GPS and my really woefully distant topo map (note to self, get a 1:25 map for the canyon), we managed to find an old logging trail, but without more information, we were hesitant to try to find the trail from there. So. . . we made the descent (often not very fun) on Telephone. We are determined to find the connection.
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Telephone Trail #72 - SedonaSedona, AZ
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pbaenzigTriplogs 20
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From the top of Telephone Trail, you can connect to Harding Spring Trail (as described in an earlier triplog) or you can connect to Thomas Point Trail, as I'll describe below. Since the upper end of Telephone Trail is not very well marked, I suggest that you hike these connecting hikes at least once starting at Telephone Trail. Once you're familiar with the land, you should be able to find your way in the opposite direction. While not absolutely essential, a compass or a GPS with compass comes in handy.

There are several ways to get from Telephone Trail to Thomas Point Trail. The easiest (and the longest) follows some old logging roads. Following the roads takes you quite a bit inland. You can shorten the hike by cutting across the forest. It's easy cross-country hiking, but you do need a compass. The forest is fairly featureless and you can easily get turned around or at least get off track.

As you arrive at the top of Telephone Trail, where it crosses the edge of the rim, you follow the faint trail heading straight east. The main trail is heading southwest parallel to the rim towards a vista point. The faint trail starts at what used to be a big cairn, now just a pile of rubble. The trail is so faint and so ambiguous that you might as well ignore it and just hike due east. Occasionally you may see small hiker made cairns, but they are small and blend in the rocky terrain. As long as you head east and don't veer to the north (veering a bit to the south is ok), you'll intersect with a Forest Service logging road after about 0.18 miles. If you've been successful in following the cairns, you'll be coming down a slight rocky incline into a flattish dry wash. The cairns continue up on the other side, but if you look to your left, a hundred yards or so, you should see some tree trunks on the ground. If you head for those, you'll intersect with the logging road as it makes a sharp bend and turns north. If you miss the logs and continue following the cairns you'll wind up at the same logging road a bit further south.

Regardless of where you intersect with the logging road, you should turn right (south east) on the road to get to Thomas Point Trail. The rough logging road curves around a bit, but basically heads southeast. The is at least one short stub road branching off, but the main road is obvious. After about half a mile, you come to a major intersection where two logging roads continue to head southeast. You should always take the right branch and first head south for a short bit, then after the second road splits off, go on in a westerly direction. Follow this road for a bit over a mile as it meanders west, southwest and even northwest and it will end at the top of Thomas Point Trail.

If you look at the uploaded GPS track, you'll see that following the logging roads gets you quite a bit inland. You can shorten the hike by about a three-quarter mile by heading straight south at about 111° 43.750'W (UTM 125 4334450). You'll clear the rim easily, you won't have to cross any major gullies and accuracy in navigations isn't essential -- you intersect with the logging road that leads to the Thomas Point Trail.

You can make a loop hike by climbing to the top on Telephone Trail, hiking across the plateau to Thomas Point Trail, descending Thomas Point Trail (much easier, not as steep as Telephone) and finally hike for about half a mile on 89A back to where you left the car. The total loop is just under five miles, for a nice morning or afternoon hike.
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